This entire thing is so effing crazy. The Michigan Secretary of State is a corruptocrat and is backed hy judges with a rooting interest.

This started with polling place...Milton Township in Antrim County...had a 70 year old cat lady volunteer actually pull out my ballot and look at it before submitting into scanner. My wife's, too.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/11...goalposts/

In before the usual leftist suspects say it never happened. lol

(11-05-2025 10:07 AM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  In before the usual leftist suspects say it never happened. lol

^^^^This

(11-05-2025 10:07 AM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  In before the usual leftist suspects say it never happened. lol

Sorry, you missed the update.....


Of course there are instances of this happening, but it wasn't enough to change the outcome.

(11-05-2025 10:02 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  This entire thing is so effing crazy. The Michigan Secretary of State is a corruptocrat and is backed hy judges with a rooting interest.

This started with polling place...Milton Township in Antrim County...had a 70 year old cat lady volunteer actually pull out my ballot and look at it before submitting into scanner. My wife's, too.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/11...goalposts/

Yeah, the workers should never be looking at your completed ballot. Nor putting it into the scanner for you.

I worked the polls in Michigan in November of 21 or 22, and all our training made those things very clear. No clue what that worker would have been doing. So you actually let her put your ballot into the scanner for you and your wife? Why? Did you ask for the Precinct Chairperson and tell them what the worker did? Request a new ballot? Not accusing you of not doing any of that, just asking.

Now as far as switching your vote, we covered this back when it happened...the votes never actually switched...the issue was software was not updated so the initial counts were off. Things got corrected and the votes were properly counted and reported.

Here are the final results of the certified votes from Antrim county for 2020, which were audited by a hand count:

Quote:The finalized numbers released today from the Antrim County hand-tallied audit yesterday continue to affirm the accuracy of the Nov. 3 general election certified results. The final numbers — 9,759 for Donald Trump and 5,959 for Joe Biden — represent a net gain of 12 votes for Trump, largely mirroring the machine-tabulation results from Nov. 3.

https://www.michigan.gov/sos/resources/n...on-results

And like all elections, the votes are not certified until several days later for this very reason...to make sure things are all correct.

So in summary, trump won the county just as he did in 2016 with similar margins (61-37 in 2020, 62-33 in 2016). In 2016 he beat Hillary 8,469 to 4,448.

As you know, your county is solidly red...so the odds of that old poll worker being Republican were pretty high.

(11-05-2025 10:28 AM)Eldonabe Wrote:  

(11-05-2025 10:07 AM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  In before the usual leftist suspects say it never happened. lol

Sorry, you missed the update.....


Of course there are instances of this happening, but it wasn't enough to change the outcome.

Exactly

Right, so we should just ignore the fact people like rath and his wife had their votes changed because it didn't affect the outcome? lolno

(11-05-2025 10:59 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Yeah, the workers should never be looking at your completed ballot. Nor putting it into the scanner for you.

I have been voting in DeKalb County GA since 2007. In all that time of voting in primaries and runoffs and general elections, the Biden/Trump election of November 2020 is the first, last, and only instance where a poll worker did that ^^^ with my ballot. I was caught completely off-guard because I had said/done nothing to indicate I required her assistance and I didn’t know that was even allowed. There were multiple scanners and she selected which one to put it in. I should have said something at the time but frankly wasn’t sure if I had a valid complaint or not. Looking back, I’m angry at myself for letting that pass, but that’s exactly what I did.

Was the first time I ever voted as a new resident of Michigan.

They only screwed up by giving away @ 70% of the over all vote to Biden that were cast for Trump...allegedly due to an employee who either failed to insert a thumb drive into each Dominion machine or inadvertently inserted a thumb drive into each Dominion Machine for a software update...the story kept changing.

The Secretary of State keeps actively withholding evidence that has been reasonably requested.

Not just in Antrim....there was widespread fraud in western downstate, too.

(11-05-2025 11:18 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Was the first time I ever voted as a new resident of Michigan.

They only screwed up by giving away @ 70% of the over all vote to Biden that were cast for Trump...allegedly due to an employee who either failed to insert a thumb drive into each Dominion machine or inadvertently inserted a thumb drive into each Dominion Machine for a software update...the story kept changing.

The Secretary of State keeps actively withholding evidence that has been reasonably requested.

Not just in Antrim....there was widespread fraud in western downstate, too.

What's in a name huh? The term Dominion has zero in common with free, or democratic. The damn machines were designed to be tampered with and the Cal Tech students who demonstrated how easy it was to do were ignored. There's a reason they were used in Venezuela and then introduced here.

As a postscript...the RINO Antrim County Clerk in charge of elections got so blasted for this that after holding the job for decades she decided to retire and hand pick her successor. A citizen who was demanding accountability drilled her handpicked successor in the Republican primary....Clerk who was retiring decided to run as an independent to keep the primary winner from getting the job and releasing all the data. Some Democrats helped fund her independent campaign. Luckily the voters gave the retiring clerk the middle finger and sent her packing.

(11-05-2025 11:15 AM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(11-05-2025 10:59 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Yeah, the workers should never be looking at your completed ballot. Nor putting it into the scanner for you.

I have been voting in DeKalb County GA since 2007. In all that time of voting in primaries and runoffs and general elections, the Biden/Trump election of November 2020 is the first, last, and only instance where a poll worker did that ^^^ with my ballot. I was caught completely off-guard because I had said/done nothing to indicate I required her assistance and I didn’t know that was even allowed. There were multiple scanners and she selected which one to put it in. I should have said something at the time but frankly wasn’t sure if I had a valid complaint or not. Looking back, I’m angry at myself for letting that pass, but that’s exactly what I did.

I feel really funny with the scanners. Sometimes it reads them face down, but sometimes you have to put it face up. Makes you wonder if they do that with Republican votes. And in 2020, the people could see your votes. Yesterday, they weren't looking, but both my wife and mine didn't read the first time when we put it face down. Poll worker said she didn't know why it did that. Usually it worked either way.

(11-05-2025 11:31 AM)JRsec Wrote:  

(11-05-2025 11:18 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Was the first time I ever voted as a new resident of Michigan.

They only screwed up by giving away @ 70% of the over all vote to Biden that were cast for Trump...allegedly due to an employee who either failed to insert a thumb drive into each Dominion machine or inadvertently inserted a thumb drive into each Dominion Machine for a software update...the story kept changing.

The Secretary of State keeps actively withholding evidence that has been reasonably requested.

Not just in Antrim....there was widespread fraud in western downstate, too.

What's in a name huh? The term Dominion has zero in common with free, or democratic. The damn machines were designed to be tampered with and the Cal Tech students who demonstrated how easy it was to do were ignored. There's a reason they were used in Venezuela and then introduced here.

And were proven in a demonstration in court to be so easily tampered with all you needed was a paper clip or a ball point pen.

Most secure election evah!

(11-05-2025 11:10 AM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  Right, so we should just ignore the fact people like rath and his wife had their votes changed because it didn't affect the outcome? lolno

They. Didn't. Have. Their. Votes. Changed!

Aside from the fact that he in no way can prove that they were...and the hand count audit of ballots proved that it was highly unlikely any votes were...there has NEVER been one vote shown to have been switched by a Dominion counting machine in an election. Not. One.

(11-05-2025 11:18 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Was the first time I ever voted as a new resident of Michigan.

They only screwed up by giving away @ 70% of the over all vote to Biden that were cast for Trump...allegedly due to an employee who either failed to insert a thumb drive into each Dominion machine or inadvertently inserted a thumb drive into each Dominion Machine for a software update...the story kept changing.

The Secretary of State keeps actively withholding evidence that has been reasonably requested.

Not just in Antrim....there was widespread fraud in western downstate, too.

There is ZERO evidence to make that accusation. And they showed what the error was. Yes, some "story" from someone might have changed with all the social media nonsense we've come to expect, but there's only one official story in the end.

Quote:A failure to properly update software was the reason for a computer glitch that caused massive errors in unofficial election results reported from Antrim county, the Michigan Department of State said late Friday.

Antrim vote glitch: Expert shares how county mistakenly flipped from red to blue

And even worse for you guys, is this actually demonstrates perfectly how improbable it is to cheat on enough of a scale to change a presidential election and get away with it. This was found fairly quickly as Biden leading in a traditional heavily red county made no sense.

(11-05-2025 11:58 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(11-05-2025 11:10 AM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  Right, so we should just ignore the fact people like rath and his wife had their votes changed because it didn't affect the outcome? lolno

They. Didn't. Have. Their. Votes. Changed!

Aside from the fact that he in no way can prove that they were...and the hand count audit of ballots proved that it was highly unlikely any votes were...there has NEVER been one vote shown to have been switched by a Dominion counting machine in an election. Not. One.

lulz

we all saw it.

(11-05-2025 11:31 AM)JRsec Wrote:  

(11-05-2025 11:18 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Was the first time I ever voted as a new resident of Michigan.

They only screwed up by giving away @ 70% of the over all vote to Biden that were cast for Trump...allegedly due to an employee who either failed to insert a thumb drive into each Dominion machine or inadvertently inserted a thumb drive into each Dominion Machine for a software update...the story kept changing.

The Secretary of State keeps actively withholding evidence that has been reasonably requested.

Not just in Antrim....there was widespread fraud in western downstate, too.

What's in a name huh? The term Dominion has zero in common with free, or democratic. The damn machines were designed to be tampered with and the Cal Tech students who demonstrated how easy it was to do were ignored. There's a reason they were used in Venezuela and then introduced here.

Nonsense.

(11-05-2025 11:39 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(11-05-2025 11:15 AM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(11-05-2025 10:59 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Yeah, the workers should never be looking at your completed ballot. Nor putting it into the scanner for you.

I have been voting in DeKalb County GA since 2007. In all that time of voting in primaries and runoffs and general elections, the Biden/Trump election of November 2020 is the first, last, and only instance where a poll worker did that ^^^ with my ballot. I was caught completely off-guard because I had said/done nothing to indicate I required her assistance and I didn’t know that was even allowed. There were multiple scanners and she selected which one to put it in. I should have said something at the time but frankly wasn’t sure if I had a valid complaint or not. Looking back, I’m angry at myself for letting that pass, but that’s exactly what I did.

I feel really funny with the scanners. Sometimes it reads them face down, but sometimes you have to put it face up. Makes you wonder if they do that with Republican votes. And in 2020, the people could see your votes. Yesterday, they weren't looking, but both my wife and mine didn't read the first time when we put it face down. Poll worker said she didn't know why it did that. Usually it worked either way.

Never seen one have to be done face down, ever. Not to mention, in a general election, there's NOTHING on the ballot...nor on the information you fill out at the location...that says if you are a Republican or a Democrat.

You guys just keep sounding more and more ridiculous trying to find some reason why trump lost in 2020. He lost, bigly and fairly, get the **** over it!

(11-05-2025 11:39 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  

(11-05-2025 11:31 AM)JRsec Wrote:  

(11-05-2025 11:18 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Was the first time I ever voted as a new resident of Michigan.

They only screwed up by giving away @ 70% of the over all vote to Biden that were cast for Trump...allegedly due to an employee who either failed to insert a thumb drive into each Dominion machine or inadvertently inserted a thumb drive into each Dominion Machine for a software update...the story kept changing.

The Secretary of State keeps actively withholding evidence that has been reasonably requested.

Not just in Antrim....there was widespread fraud in western downstate, too.

What's in a name huh? The term Dominion has zero in common with free, or democratic. The damn machines were designed to be tampered with and the Cal Tech students who demonstrated how easy it was to do were ignored. There's a reason they were used in Venezuela and then introduced here.

And were proven in a demonstration in court to be so easily tampered with all you needed was a paper clip or a ball point pen.

(11-05-2025 12:10 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Never seen one have to be done face down, ever. Not to mention, in a general election, there's NOTHING on the ballot...nor on the information you fill out at the location...that says if you are a Republican or a Democrat.

You guys just keep sounding more and more ridiculous trying to find some reason why trump lost in 2020. He lost, bigly and fairly, get the **** over it!

I question the sheer number of votes, including those from nursing homes and other places where the elderly who can't care for themselves voted in record numbers. I don't question the voting machines, personally.