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I doubt he knew his mama
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(10-30-2025 07:36 AM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  I doubt he knew his mama

I'm thinking she listened to his first few sentences, then drove him to a Goodwill box, and dumped him in.
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The Dem's answer to everything is to either create a new tax or increase a current tax.
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(10-30-2025 07:44 AM)VA49er Wrote:  The Dem's answer to everything is to either create a new tax or increase a current tax.

Exhibit #1,480,758 of the lack of critical thinking skill on your side.

TARIFFS ARE TAXES. tRUMP HAS BASICALLY HUNG HIS ENTIRE SECOND TERM ECONOMICS ON TARIFFS!!!! 04-chairshot

FFS, he's (and several posters here) bragged continually about all the tariff (tax) revenue he's taken in. 07-coffee3
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(10-30-2025 08:43 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(10-30-2025 07:44 AM)VA49er Wrote:  The Dem's answer to everything is to either create a new tax or increase a current tax.

Exhibit #1,480,758 of the lack of critical thinking skill on your side.

TARIFFS ARE TAXES. tRUMP HAS BASICALLY HUNG HIS ENTIRE SECOND TERM ECONOMICS ON TARIFFS!!!! 04-chairshot

FFS, he's (and several posters here) bragged continually about all the tariff (tax) revenue he's taken in. 07-coffee3

This goes way beyond tariffs. The Dem's have been ignoring the other side of the income statement for many decades.
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(10-30-2025 08:47 AM)VA49er Wrote:  
(10-30-2025 08:43 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(10-30-2025 07:44 AM)VA49er Wrote:  The Dem's answer to everything is to either create a new tax or increase a current tax.

Exhibit #1,480,758 of the lack of critical thinking skill on your side.

TARIFFS ARE TAXES. tRUMP HAS BASICALLY HUNG HIS ENTIRE SECOND TERM ECONOMICS ON TARIFFS!!!! 04-chairshot

FFS, he's (and several posters here) bragged continually about all the tariff (tax) revenue he's taken in. 07-coffee3

This goes way beyond tariffs. The Dem's have been ignoring the other side of the income statement for many decades.

Yeah, I'd try to deflect from that moronic comment too. 07-coffee3
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(10-29-2025 08:46 PM)TripleA Wrote:  
(10-29-2025 08:27 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  
(10-29-2025 06:15 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Blah blah blah...I haven't said a single word about smartphone taxes. Don't you ever get tired of being wrong?

Responding to the thread overall, champ. Having a bad Geritol day, friend? Lolz.

And you wonder why I keep referring to you as a whiny *****. Double lolz.

The only thing I wonder about is why your mama never taught you any manners.

Folks such as you used up any manners in that pile. If you want to make a snarky asshat comment to me, Im sorry your whiny ***** feathers get all ruffled when an asshat comment is returned.

Imagine that, my friend. Or dont.
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You just can't let one go, can you? 03-lmfao
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(10-30-2025 08:51 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(10-30-2025 08:47 AM)VA49er Wrote:  
(10-30-2025 08:43 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(10-30-2025 07:44 AM)VA49er Wrote:  The Dem's answer to everything is to either create a new tax or increase a current tax.

Exhibit #1,480,758 of the lack of critical thinking skill on your side.

TARIFFS ARE TAXES. tRUMP HAS BASICALLY HUNG HIS ENTIRE SECOND TERM ECONOMICS ON TARIFFS!!!! 04-chairshot

FFS, he's (and several posters here) bragged continually about all the tariff (tax) revenue he's taken in. 07-coffee3

This goes way beyond tariffs. The Dem's have been ignoring the other side of the income statement for many decades.

Yeah, I'd try to defect from that moronic comment too. 07-coffee3

It's not a defection, and to be honest, I have no idea where tariff's even enter the conversation. Call them a tax if you want, I really don't care. At the end of the day, Dems have always been a tax first group. There is no denying that.
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(10-30-2025 09:16 AM)TripleA Wrote:  You just can't let one go, can you? 03-lmfao

Im not the one catcalling out of the blue as you do many places elsewhere.

You literally invoke my name in a ton and a half of threads, many which I dont even post in.

If anything, you are the triggered obsesso. But you do you, WB.
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Never miss out on a revenue stream.
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(10-30-2025 09:22 AM)VA49er Wrote:  
(10-30-2025 08:51 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(10-30-2025 08:47 AM)VA49er Wrote:  
(10-30-2025 08:43 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(10-30-2025 07:44 AM)VA49er Wrote:  The Dem's answer to everything is to either create a new tax or increase a current tax.

Exhibit #1,480,758 of the lack of critical thinking skill on your side.

TARIFFS ARE TAXES. tRUMP HAS BASICALLY HUNG HIS ENTIRE SECOND TERM ECONOMICS ON TARIFFS!!!! 04-chairshot

FFS, he's (and several posters here) bragged continually about all the tariff (tax) revenue he's taken in. 07-coffee3

This goes way beyond tariffs. The Dem's have been ignoring the other side of the income statement for many decades.

Yeah, I'd try to deflect from that moronic comment too. 07-coffee3

It's not a deflection, and to be honest, I have no idea where tariff's even enter the conversation. Call them a tax if you want, I really don't care. At the end of the day, Dems have always been a tax first group. There is no denying that.

I entered them into the equation as you seemingly are unaware that tariffs are taxes. And since you know trump's second term economic policy is pretty much 100% tariff, your comment is pretty funny.

And it's not me calling them a tax, THEY ARE!

Here's the Oxford definition:

Quote:1. a tax or duty to be paid on a particular class of imports or exports

Ever been to a duty free store at a border...the duty free part means no taxes on the purchases. Get it yet?
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(10-30-2025 09:39 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(10-30-2025 09:22 AM)VA49er Wrote:  
(10-30-2025 08:51 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(10-30-2025 08:47 AM)VA49er Wrote:  
(10-30-2025 08:43 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Exhibit #1,480,758 of the lack of critical thinking skill on your side.

TARIFFS ARE TAXES. tRUMP HAS BASICALLY HUNG HIS ENTIRE SECOND TERM ECONOMICS ON TARIFFS!!!! 04-chairshot

FFS, he's (and several posters here) bragged continually about all the tariff (tax) revenue he's taken in. 07-coffee3

This goes way beyond tariffs. The Dem's have been ignoring the other side of the income statement for many decades.

Yeah, I'd try to deflect from that moronic comment too. 07-coffee3

It's not a deflection, and to be honest, I have no idea where tariff's even enter the conversation. Call them a tax if you want, I really don't care. At the end of the day, Dems have always been a tax first group. There is no denying that.

I entered them into the equation as you seemingly are unaware that tariffs are taxes. And since you know trump's second term economic policy is pretty much 100% tariff, your comment is pretty funny.

And it's not me calling them a tax, THEY ARE!

Here's the Oxford definition:

Quote:1. a tax or duty to be paid on a particular class of imports or exports

Ever been to a duty free store at a border...the duty free part means no taxes on the purchases. Get it yet?

Yes, its a tax---but its a tax that has a goal of improving domestic employment---and here is the real key---its a consumption tax, meaning its essentially voluntary. You dont HAVE to purchase the foreign made good---you can avoid the tax by purchasing the American made alternative (or an alternative from one of the growing list of nations we have a trade deal with) or you can elect not to buy the good at all and spend your dollars on something else. As the US is largely energy and food independent----these tariffs actually tend to land almost exclusively on high end goods purchased with discretionary dollars. The point is---as an American tax payer, you really dont have to pay the tariffs if you are interested in avoiding them. Secondly, one of the reasons that the tariffs are not triggering accelerated inflation is because as factory orders slow in nations targeted by the tariffs, those nations are having to discount their goods to get American companies to buy them (offsetting much of the cost of tariffs). So while it is a "tax" that would theoretically be paid by American citizens, in real life---the nation targeted ends up absorbing much of the cost.
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(10-30-2025 11:54 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(10-30-2025 09:39 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(10-30-2025 09:22 AM)VA49er Wrote:  
(10-30-2025 08:51 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(10-30-2025 08:47 AM)VA49er Wrote:  This goes way beyond tariffs. The Dem's have been ignoring the other side of the income statement for many decades.

Yeah, I'd try to deflect from that moronic comment too. 07-coffee3

It's not a deflection, and to be honest, I have no idea where tariff's even enter the conversation. Call them a tax if you want, I really don't care. At the end of the day, Dems have always been a tax first group. There is no denying that.

I entered them into the equation as you seemingly are unaware that tariffs are taxes. And since you know trump's second term economic policy is pretty much 100% tariff, your comment is pretty funny.

And it's not me calling them a tax, THEY ARE!

Here's the Oxford definition:

Quote:1. a tax or duty to be paid on a particular class of imports or exports

Ever been to a duty free store at a border...the duty free part means no taxes on the purchases. Get it yet?

Yes, its a tax---but its a tax that has a goal of improving domestic employment---and here is the real key---its a consumption tax, meaning its essentially voluntary. You dont HAVE to purchase the foreign made good---you can avoid the tax by purchasing the American made alternative (or an alternative from one of the growing list of nations we have a trade deal with) or you can elect not to buy the good at all and spend your dollars on something else. As the US is largely energy and food independent----these tariffs actually tend to land almost exclusively on high end goods purchased with discretionary dollars. The point is---as an American tax payer, you really dont have to pay the tariffs if you are interested in avoiding them. Secondly, one of the reasons that the tariffs are not triggering accelerated inflation is because as factory orders slow in nations targeted by the tariffs, those nations are having to discount their goods to get American companies to buy them (offsetting much of the cost of tariffs). So while it is a "tax" that would theoretically be paid by American citizens, in real life---the nation targeted ends up absorbing much of the cost.

I get the concept, but just don't believe it's going to be all that effective. Especially not in the short term. It's going to take YEARS to make any real positive impact IMO.

For starters, there simply is not an American alternative to everything. And when there is, the cost of the American alternative will most likely be raised higher to meet or just beat the cost of the foreign made alternative. Again, the American companies have an obligation to their shareholders to maximize profits, so cost increases are inevitable. Not to mention they're going to go up anyway if things are made fully here due to the higher cost of labor, materials due to tariffs as most things can't be made with 100% American parts, and higher costs of infrastructure.

Lastly, I don't buy that the targeted nations are ending up absorbing much of the cost. The importers pay the tariffs. They absorb ALL the cost. And that cost will then be passed on to the American seller which will absorb some of the cost, and the rest will be passed along to the American consumer as a tax.
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(10-30-2025 09:33 AM)tanqtonic Wrote:  
(10-30-2025 09:16 AM)TripleA Wrote:  You just can't let one go, can you? 03-lmfao

Im not the one catcalling out of the blue as you do many places elsewhere.

You literally invoke my name in a ton and a half of threads, many which I dont even post in.

If anything, you are the triggered obsesso. But you do you, WB.

You ever wonder why people react to you the way they do, or is that too complicated to figure out?
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(10-30-2025 02:29 PM)TripleA Wrote:  
(10-30-2025 09:33 AM)tanqtonic Wrote:  
(10-30-2025 09:16 AM)TripleA Wrote:  You just can't let one go, can you? 03-lmfao

Im not the one catcalling out of the blue as you do many places elsewhere.

You literally invoke my name in a ton and a half of threads, many which I dont even post in.

If anything, you are the triggered obsesso. But you do you, WB.

You ever wonder why people react to you the way they do, or is that too complicated to figure out?

The only ones that react to tanq like you are members of the cult who are incapable of accepting those with the same political leanings who speak out against the cult.

That's your problem, not his.

You can still be a republican and a conservative on many topics and not go along blindly as trump destroys democracy.
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(10-30-2025 02:34 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(10-30-2025 02:29 PM)TripleA Wrote:  
(10-30-2025 09:33 AM)tanqtonic Wrote:  
(10-30-2025 09:16 AM)TripleA Wrote:  You just can't let one go, can you? 03-lmfao

Im not the one catcalling out of the blue as you do many places elsewhere.

You literally invoke my name in a ton and a half of threads, many which I dont even post in.

If anything, you are the triggered obsesso. But you do you, WB.

You ever wonder why people react to you the way they do, or is that too complicated to figure out?

The only ones that react to tanq like you are members of the cult who are incapable of accepting those with the same political leanings who speak out against the cult.

That's your problem, not his.

You can still be a republican and a conservative on many topics and not go along blindly as trump destroys democracy.

I was going to count the minutes before you jumped in to defend Tanq, but it was so quick, I didn't have to.
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(10-30-2025 02:21 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  I get the concept, but just don't believe it's going to be all that effective. Especially not in the short term. It's going to take YEARS to make any real positive impact IMO.


yeah, buggy ... more insurance deductible logic from the purrrrrrrrrr-factory...

'coog laid it out perfectly...

revenues are positive whilst inflation/fuel is lower ... spending is still too high, but the same and will have to be rationally addressed soon ... they reluctantly cut rates another 0.25% ... explain all that with your 'messaging' ... gfl, chico...

you are right about it's going to take years (decades) to achieve a path to solvency (if possible) ... however, like ewe, the donktards don't have a fk'n clue what it will take to make that happen ... all they know is spend and burn...

I'm hangin' muh hat on the current methods being applied as a 'starter kit' and adjusting as req'd down the row-add...

we all know there ain' no click'n heels solution...
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(10-30-2025 02:38 PM)TripleA Wrote:  
(10-30-2025 02:34 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(10-30-2025 02:29 PM)TripleA Wrote:  
(10-30-2025 09:33 AM)tanqtonic Wrote:  
(10-30-2025 09:16 AM)TripleA Wrote:  You just can't let one go, can you? 03-lmfao

Im not the one catcalling out of the blue as you do many places elsewhere.

You literally invoke my name in a ton and a half of threads, many which I dont even post in.

If anything, you are the triggered obsesso. But you do you, WB.

You ever wonder why people react to you the way they do, or is that too complicated to figure out?

The only ones that react to tanq like you are members of the cult who are incapable of accepting those with the same political leanings who speak out against the cult.

That's your problem, not his.

You can still be a republican and a conservative on many topics and not go along blindly as trump destroys democracy.

I was going to count the minutes before you jumped in to defend Tanq, but it was so quick, I didn't have to.

Yeah, so? Tanq and I are just about completely opposite when it comes to our political philosophies. That alone should tell you that the issue is you, not him. 07-coffee3
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