(10-14-2025 05:44 PM)OdinFrigg Wrote:  

(10-14-2025 04:06 PM)bryanw1995 Wrote:  

(10-14-2025 03:02 PM)Dr Dawgma III Wrote:  Great points being made here. Coaches should be given five games to prove themselves, no more.

Or 6 games to prove that they really don't belong anymore, but only if they made the CFP semis and the CCG the year before.

A new coach can have a rough start. That is fairly common in college football. The question is “what is the trajectory”? Are players improving as the season progresses? Is the coaching staff making the necessary adjustments to improve the output? Are the players sufficiently motivated, and fully understand and support what the coaches are trying to accomplish? Are past penalties, blocking and tackling fundamentals, and other facets of play-making, getting addressed thoroughly with the team?

Does what’s happening now show an evidence of a turnaround? There’s more components to that than just the.W-L record.

You nailed it here. And to be clear, halfway through one season isn't enough to hang a coach on, but you would hope there is some indication that the coaching staff has the ability to address it.

(10-15-2025 07:41 PM)OdinFrigg Wrote:  

(10-15-2025 01:48 PM)The Beaver Wrote:  

(10-15-2025 12:24 AM)WhidbeyWolf Wrote:  

(10-14-2025 01:16 PM)The Beaver Wrote:  

(10-12-2025 12:04 PM)WhidbeyWolf Wrote:  Catch me up here. Were you for or against Belichick's hiring?

Well, I was against hiring him, but now that he's here he should at least be given two years to build a team with his own players.

I'm not sure the 'new' college football gives a coach two years, anymore. Look at Franklin; CFP to fired.

Franklin had 12 years, up until last month he was a strong example of why you should wait and not fire the coach.

Good point, Beaver. While I am not particularly a Franklin fan, I deem his firing a bit premature.

Behind the scenes at Penn State, I get the perception there is more to the story than what has been publicly revealed. There may be deeper conflict in the athletic apparatus and/or between the administration and certain athletic personnel. Maybe Franklin did some things that offended certain folks on campus, and the university wants to keep that information suppressed. I am only speculating.

We started at number 2 in the polls then lost to what were regarded as the two worst teams in the Big Ten, possibly the P4, back to back while also losing the QB for the year to injury (at the very end of the second game so can't even pin the blame on that,) thats why he was fired.

(10-15-2025 08:55 PM)surrealpirate Wrote:  

(10-14-2025 05:44 PM)OdinFrigg Wrote:  

(10-14-2025 04:06 PM)bryanw1995 Wrote:  

(10-14-2025 03:02 PM)Dr Dawgma III Wrote:  Great points being made here. Coaches should be given five games to prove themselves, no more.

Or 6 games to prove that they really don't belong anymore, but only if they made the CFP semis and the CCG the year before.

A new coach can have a rough start. That is fairly common in college football. The question is “what is the trajectory”? Are players improving as the season progresses? Is the coaching staff making the necessary adjustments to improve the output? Are the players sufficiently motivated, and fully understand and support what the coaches are trying to accomplish? Are past penalties, blocking and tackling fundamentals, and other facets of play-making, getting addressed thoroughly with the team?

Does what’s happening now show an evidence of a turnaround? There’s more components to that than just the.W-L record.

You nailed it here. And to be clear, halfway through one season isn't enough to hang a coach on, but you would hope there is some indication that the coaching staff has the ability to address it.

Tomorrow's coaches will have more all-new talent(who likely played at other schools) every season, which means they'd better have their staffs in tip-top shape, handle NIL money well; ready to put up 8 or 9 wins, or be gone.
Maybe Franklin isn't a 'tomorrow' coach. Same's been said about Dabo.
Money has moved everything up a few notches.

"Toxic," when it gets results, keeps coaching and infrastructure around. When it doesn't...out you go.

If this team is above .500, this isn't a story, I fear.

When there is new chatter about potential UNC fb coaching candidates, the confidence in Belichick will have deteriorated to the point of no return.

(10-16-2025 06:35 PM)OdinFrigg Wrote:  When there is new chatter about potential UNC fb coaching candidates, the confidence in Belichick will have deteriorated to the point of no return.

UNC could win every game the rest of the year by 30 points and the chatter won’t go away. There is a timer on Blichick’s career. 5 more months? A couple more years? It’s unlikely to be long, regardless of how much success he has.