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RE: It's Becoming Clear That UNC Is Going To Fire Belichick
(10-12-2025 12:04 PM)WhidbeyWolf Wrote:  
(10-12-2025 11:31 AM)XLance Wrote:  
(10-12-2025 08:15 AM)Ned Low Wrote:  
(10-12-2025 07:23 AM)goodknightfl Wrote:  
(10-12-2025 06:55 AM)GTFletch Wrote:  I mean, Geoff Collins trashed up the team in Mack Collins final year. It is interesting to me that the UNC boosters and fans had no clue how F-upped the team became. It will take B. Belichick a few years to straighten things out.

I think you have to realize NC was a dumpster fire. This is year one of a rebuild, You really need to give the coach 3 years. In this case the problem was not helped by having a coach with a learning curve in how the system now works. I have no doubts he can coach the team question will be can he get the horses he needs to coach.
USF and Cincy are good examples, where it took 3 years

That’s certainly fair but the UNC fans expectations are so incredibly high that Bill may not get three years.

Ultimately, ticket sales and other money will determine whether Bill stays or goes.


Ticket prices are a really sore subject to many long term fans. Blame it on coaching salaries, NIL or whatever.

Some Carolina basketball ticket prices increased as much as 70% this year, while football ticket prices increased 30-50%.
I personally know several guys who were original seat license holders in the Dean Dome that have given up their seats this year because of price increases and sub-standard product on the court.
The University didn't bring Belichick in to re-build, but now that's the current messaging and were being asked to be patient. Price increases in a three to 5 year re-build will leave many empty seats until the team actually shows some improvement.

Catch me up here. Were you for or against Belichick's hiring?

That's not relevant to the discussion.

What is relevant is that the fan base was promised an immediate turn around and now that is obviously not happening, the administration/Belichick are now saying that the football program needs to be re-built and that process will take 3 to 5 years.
It will be hard to maintain the same level of excitement about the Belichick hire (in the NIL era) if it's going to take 3 to five years to produce what we were led to believe would happen this year.
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RE: It's Becoming Clear That UNC Is Going To Fire Belichick
(10-12-2025 12:17 PM)XLance Wrote:  
(10-12-2025 12:04 PM)WhidbeyWolf Wrote:  
(10-12-2025 11:31 AM)XLance Wrote:  
(10-12-2025 08:15 AM)Ned Low Wrote:  
(10-12-2025 07:23 AM)goodknightfl Wrote:  I think you have to realize NC was a dumpster fire. This is year one of a rebuild, You really need to give the coach 3 years. In this case the problem was not helped by having a coach with a learning curve in how the system now works. I have no doubts he can coach the team question will be can he get the horses he needs to coach.
USF and Cincy are good examples, where it took 3 years

That’s certainly fair but the UNC fans expectations are so incredibly high that Bill may not get three years.

Ultimately, ticket sales and other money will determine whether Bill stays or goes.


Ticket prices are a really sore subject to many long term fans. Blame it on coaching salaries, NIL or whatever.

Some Carolina basketball ticket prices increased as much as 70% this year, while football ticket prices increased 30-50%.
I personally know several guys who were original seat license holders in the Dean Dome that have given up their seats this year because of price increases and sub-standard product on the court.
The University didn't bring Belichick in to re-build, but now that's the current messaging and were being asked to be patient. Price increases in a three to 5 year re-build will leave many empty seats until the team actually shows some improvement.

Catch me up here. Were you for or against Belichick's hiring?

That's not relevant to the discussion.

What is relevant is that the fan base was promised an immediate turn around and now that is obviously not happening, the administration/Belichick are now saying that the football program needs to be re-built and that process will take 3 to 5 years.
It will be hard to maintain the same level of excitement about the Belichick hire (in the NIL era) if it's going to take 3 to five years to produce what we were led to believe would happen this year.
LOL, if he is active with his young sweetie that 3 to 5 years could well be beyond his life expectancy. Viagra is a vasoconstrictor. 07-coffee3
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RE: It's Becoming Clear That UNC Is Going To Fire Belichick
(10-12-2025 12:24 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(10-12-2025 12:17 PM)XLance Wrote:  
(10-12-2025 12:04 PM)WhidbeyWolf Wrote:  
(10-12-2025 11:31 AM)XLance Wrote:  
(10-12-2025 08:15 AM)Ned Low Wrote:  That’s certainly fair but the UNC fans expectations are so incredibly high that Bill may not get three years.

Ultimately, ticket sales and other money will determine whether Bill stays or goes.


Ticket prices are a really sore subject to many long term fans. Blame it on coaching salaries, NIL or whatever.

Some Carolina basketball ticket prices increased as much as 70% this year, while football ticket prices increased 30-50%.
I personally know several guys who were original seat license holders in the Dean Dome that have given up their seats this year because of price increases and sub-standard product on the court.
The University didn't bring Belichick in to re-build, but now that's the current messaging and were being asked to be patient. Price increases in a three to 5 year re-build will leave many empty seats until the team actually shows some improvement.

Catch me up here. Were you for or against Belichick's hiring?

That's not relevant to the discussion.

What is relevant is that the fan base was promised an immediate turn around and now that is obviously not happening, the administration/Belichick are now saying that the football program needs to be re-built and that process will take 3 to 5 years.
It will be hard to maintain the same level of excitement about the Belichick hire (in the NIL era) if it's going to take 3 to five years to produce what we were led to believe would happen this year.
LOL, if he is active with his young sweetie that 3 to 5 years could well be beyond his life expectancy. Viagra is a vasoconstrictor. 07-coffee3

03-lmfao

more misinformation?

Viagra (sildenafil) is a vasodilator, meaning it widens blood vessels to improve blood flow and lower blood pressure. It works by increasing levels of a substance called cGMP, which relaxes the smooth muscles in blood vessels
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RE: It's Becoming Clear That UNC Is Going To Fire Belichick
(10-12-2025 12:33 PM)XLance Wrote:  
(10-12-2025 12:24 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(10-12-2025 12:17 PM)XLance Wrote:  
(10-12-2025 12:04 PM)WhidbeyWolf Wrote:  
(10-12-2025 11:31 AM)XLance Wrote:  Ticket prices are a really sore subject to many long term fans. Blame it on coaching salaries, NIL or whatever.

Some Carolina basketball ticket prices increased as much as 70% this year, while football ticket prices increased 30-50%.
I personally know several guys who were original seat license holders in the Dean Dome that have given up their seats this year because of price increases and sub-standard product on the court.
The University didn't bring Belichick in to re-build, but now that's the current messaging and were being asked to be patient. Price increases in a three to 5 year re-build will leave many empty seats until the team actually shows some improvement.

Catch me up here. Were you for or against Belichick's hiring?

That's not relevant to the discussion.

What is relevant is that the fan base was promised an immediate turn around and now that is obviously not happening, the administration/Belichick are now saying that the football program needs to be re-built and that process will take 3 to 5 years.
It will be hard to maintain the same level of excitement about the Belichick hire (in the NIL era) if it's going to take 3 to five years to produce what we were led to believe would happen this year.
LOL, if he is active with his young sweetie that 3 to 5 years could well be beyond his life expectancy. Viagra is a vasoconstrictor. 07-coffee3

03-lmfao

more misinformation?

Viagra (sildenafil) is a vasodilator, meaning it widens blood vessels to improve blood flow and lower blood pressure. It works by increasing levels of a substance called cGMP, which relaxes the smooth muscles in blood vessels

My bad! I've never needed it so I wouldn't know if it was a dilator or constrictor. 07-coffee3
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RE: It's Becoming Clear That UNC Is Going To Fire Belichick
(10-12-2025 12:17 PM)XLance Wrote:  
(10-12-2025 12:04 PM)WhidbeyWolf Wrote:  
(10-12-2025 11:31 AM)XLance Wrote:  
(10-12-2025 08:15 AM)Ned Low Wrote:  
(10-12-2025 07:23 AM)goodknightfl Wrote:  I think you have to realize NC was a dumpster fire. This is year one of a rebuild, You really need to give the coach 3 years. In this case the problem was not helped by having a coach with a learning curve in how the system now works. I have no doubts he can coach the team question will be can he get the horses he needs to coach.
USF and Cincy are good examples, where it took 3 years

That’s certainly fair but the UNC fans expectations are so incredibly high that Bill may not get three years.

Ultimately, ticket sales and other money will determine whether Bill stays or goes.


Ticket prices are a really sore subject to many long term fans. Blame it on coaching salaries, NIL or whatever.

Some Carolina basketball ticket prices increased as much as 70% this year, while football ticket prices increased 30-50%.
I personally know several guys who were original seat license holders in the Dean Dome that have given up their seats this year because of price increases and sub-standard product on the court.
The University didn't bring Belichick in to re-build, but now that's the current messaging and were being asked to be patient. Price increases in a three to 5 year re-build will leave many empty seats until the team actually shows some improvement.

Catch me up here. Were you for or against Belichick's hiring?

That's not relevant to the discussion.

What is relevant is that the fan base was promised an immediate turn around and now that is obviously not happening, the administration/Belichick are now saying that the football program needs to be re-built and that process will take 3 to 5 years.
It will be hard to maintain the same level of excitement about the Belichick hire (in the NIL era) if it's going to take 3 to five years to produce what we were led to believe would happen this year.

So, your opinion isn't relevant? ok
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RE: It's Becoming Clear That UNC Is Going To Fire Belichick
(10-12-2025 12:24 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(10-12-2025 12:17 PM)XLance Wrote:  
(10-12-2025 12:04 PM)WhidbeyWolf Wrote:  
(10-12-2025 11:31 AM)XLance Wrote:  
(10-12-2025 08:15 AM)Ned Low Wrote:  That’s certainly fair but the UNC fans expectations are so incredibly high that Bill may not get three years.

Ultimately, ticket sales and other money will determine whether Bill stays or goes.


Ticket prices are a really sore subject to many long term fans. Blame it on coaching salaries, NIL or whatever.

Some Carolina basketball ticket prices increased as much as 70% this year, while football ticket prices increased 30-50%.
I personally know several guys who were original seat license holders in the Dean Dome that have given up their seats this year because of price increases and sub-standard product on the court.
The University didn't bring Belichick in to re-build, but now that's the current messaging and were being asked to be patient. Price increases in a three to 5 year re-build will leave many empty seats until the team actually shows some improvement.

Catch me up here. Were you for or against Belichick's hiring?

That's not relevant to the discussion.

What is relevant is that the fan base was promised an immediate turn around and now that is obviously not happening, the administration/Belichick are now saying that the football program needs to be re-built and that process will take 3 to 5 years.
It will be hard to maintain the same level of excitement about the Belichick hire (in the NIL era) if it's going to take 3 to five years to produce what we were led to believe would happen this year.
LOL, if he is active with his young sweetie that 3 to 5 years could well be beyond his life expectancy. Viagra is a vasoconstrictor. 07-coffee3

The classic conundrum: longer life or longer…uh, nvm.
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RE: It's Becoming Clear That UNC Is Going To Fire Belichick
(10-12-2025 12:04 PM)WhidbeyWolf Wrote:  
(10-12-2025 11:31 AM)XLance Wrote:  
(10-12-2025 08:15 AM)Ned Low Wrote:  
(10-12-2025 07:23 AM)goodknightfl Wrote:  
(10-12-2025 06:55 AM)GTFletch Wrote:  I mean, Geoff Collins trashed up the team in Mack Collins final year. It is interesting to me that the UNC boosters and fans had no clue how F-upped the team became. It will take B. Belichick a few years to straighten things out.

I think you have to realize NC was a dumpster fire. This is year one of a rebuild, You really need to give the coach 3 years. In this case the problem was not helped by having a coach with a learning curve in how the system now works. I have no doubts he can coach the team question will be can he get the horses he needs to coach.
USF and Cincy are good examples, where it took 3 years

That’s certainly fair but the UNC fans expectations are so incredibly high that Bill may not get three years.

Ultimately, ticket sales and other money will determine whether Bill stays or goes.


Ticket prices are a really sore subject to many long term fans. Blame it on coaching salaries, NIL or whatever.

Some Carolina basketball ticket prices increased as much as 70% this year, while football ticket prices increased 30-50%.
I personally know several guys who were original seat license holders in the Dean Dome that have given up their seats this year because of price increases and sub-standard product on the court.
The University didn't bring Belichick in to re-build, but now that's the current messaging and were being asked to be patient. Price increases in a three to 5 year re-build will leave many empty seats until the team actually shows some improvement.

Catch me up here. Were you for or against Belichick's hiring?
Well, I was against hiring him, but now that he's here he should at least be given two years to build a team with his own players.
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RE: It's Becoming Clear That UNC Is Going To Fire Belichick
(10-12-2025 12:17 PM)XLance Wrote:  
(10-12-2025 12:04 PM)WhidbeyWolf Wrote:  
(10-12-2025 11:31 AM)XLance Wrote:  
(10-12-2025 08:15 AM)Ned Low Wrote:  
(10-12-2025 07:23 AM)goodknightfl Wrote:  I think you have to realize NC was a dumpster fire. This is year one of a rebuild, You really need to give the coach 3 years. In this case the problem was not helped by having a coach with a learning curve in how the system now works. I have no doubts he can coach the team question will be can he get the horses he needs to coach.
USF and Cincy are good examples, where it took 3 years

That’s certainly fair but the UNC fans expectations are so incredibly high that Bill may not get three years.

Ultimately, ticket sales and other money will determine whether Bill stays or goes.


Ticket prices are a really sore subject to many long term fans. Blame it on coaching salaries, NIL or whatever.

Some Carolina basketball ticket prices increased as much as 70% this year, while football ticket prices increased 30-50%.
I personally know several guys who were original seat license holders in the Dean Dome that have given up their seats this year because of price increases and sub-standard product on the court.
The University didn't bring Belichick in to re-build, but now that's the current messaging and were being asked to be patient. Price increases in a three to 5 year re-build will leave many empty seats until the team actually shows some improvement.

Catch me up here. Were you for or against Belichick's hiring?

That's not relevant to the discussion.

What is relevant is that the fan base was promised an immediate turn around and now that is obviously not happening, the administration/Belichick are now saying that the football program needs to be re-built and that process will take 3 to 5 years.
It will be hard to maintain the same level of excitement about the Belichick hire (in the NIL era) if it's going to take 3 to five years to produce what we were led to believe would happen this year.

IMO, there isn't any fan base in America willing to wait 3-5 years for a turnaround. With NIL and the portal, you can create a whole new roster every year. Just look at how good Texas Tech has gotten the past year, just by opening their wallet.
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Or how Memphis is continuing to roll in spite of only returning three starters from last season and incorporating 72 new players, including a replacement for their successful multi-year quarterback.
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Great points being made here. Coaches should be given five games to prove themselves, no more.
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(10-14-2025 03:02 PM)Dr Dawgma III Wrote:  Great points being made here. Coaches should be given five games to prove themselves, no more.

Or 6 games to prove that they really don't belong anymore, but only if they made the CFP semis and the CCG the year before.
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(10-14-2025 01:17 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(10-12-2025 12:17 PM)XLance Wrote:  
(10-12-2025 12:04 PM)WhidbeyWolf Wrote:  
(10-12-2025 11:31 AM)XLance Wrote:  
(10-12-2025 08:15 AM)Ned Low Wrote:  That’s certainly fair but the UNC fans expectations are so incredibly high that Bill may not get three years.

Ultimately, ticket sales and other money will determine whether Bill stays or goes.


Ticket prices are a really sore subject to many long term fans. Blame it on coaching salaries, NIL or whatever.

Some Carolina basketball ticket prices increased as much as 70% this year, while football ticket prices increased 30-50%.
I personally know several guys who were original seat license holders in the Dean Dome that have given up their seats this year because of price increases and sub-standard product on the court.
The University didn't bring Belichick in to re-build, but now that's the current messaging and were being asked to be patient. Price increases in a three to 5 year re-build will leave many empty seats until the team actually shows some improvement.

Catch me up here. Were you for or against Belichick's hiring?

That's not relevant to the discussion.

What is relevant is that the fan base was promised an immediate turn around and now that is obviously not happening, the administration/Belichick are now saying that the football program needs to be re-built and that process will take 3 to 5 years.
It will be hard to maintain the same level of excitement about the Belichick hire (in the NIL era) if it's going to take 3 to five years to produce what we were led to believe would happen this year.

IMO, there isn't any fan base in America willing to wait 3-5 years for a turnaround. With NIL and the portal, you can create a whole new roster every year. Just look at how good Texas Tech has gotten the past year, just by opening their wallet.

Mack 2.0 was not what we had hoped for in Chapel Hill, however Mack did take the Heels to 6 straight bowl games (2.0), so Belichick didn't inherit a team made up of chopped liver
What we have is a case of the coach unwilling to adjust to the players on hand and claiming that his system is the only way to win.

So here is the dilemma: replace one coach or 105 players.
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(10-14-2025 04:06 PM)bryanw1995 Wrote:  
(10-14-2025 03:02 PM)Dr Dawgma III Wrote:  Great points being made here. Coaches should be given five games to prove themselves, no more.

Or 6 games to prove that they really don't belong anymore, but only if they made the CFP semis and the CCG the year before.

A new coach can have a rough start. That is fairly common in college football. The question is “what is the trajectory”? Are players improving as the season progresses? Is the coaching staff making the necessary adjustments to improve the output? Are the players sufficiently motivated, and fully understand and support what the coaches are trying to accomplish? Are past penalties, blocking and tackling fundamentals, and other facets of play-making, getting addressed thoroughly with the team?

Does what’s happening now show an evidence of a turnaround? There’s more components to that than just the.W-L record.
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(10-14-2025 01:16 PM)The Beaver Wrote:  
(10-12-2025 12:04 PM)WhidbeyWolf Wrote:  
(10-12-2025 11:31 AM)XLance Wrote:  
(10-12-2025 08:15 AM)Ned Low Wrote:  
(10-12-2025 07:23 AM)goodknightfl Wrote:  I think you have to realize NC was a dumpster fire. This is year one of a rebuild, You really need to give the coach 3 years. In this case the problem was not helped by having a coach with a learning curve in how the system now works. I have no doubts he can coach the team question will be can he get the horses he needs to coach.
USF and Cincy are good examples, where it took 3 years

That’s certainly fair but the UNC fans expectations are so incredibly high that Bill may not get three years.

Ultimately, ticket sales and other money will determine whether Bill stays or goes.


Ticket prices are a really sore subject to many long term fans. Blame it on coaching salaries, NIL or whatever.

Some Carolina basketball ticket prices increased as much as 70% this year, while football ticket prices increased 30-50%.
I personally know several guys who were original seat license holders in the Dean Dome that have given up their seats this year because of price increases and sub-standard product on the court.
The University didn't bring Belichick in to re-build, but now that's the current messaging and were being asked to be patient. Price increases in a three to 5 year re-build will leave many empty seats until the team actually shows some improvement.

Catch me up here. Were you for or against Belichick's hiring?
Well, I was against hiring him, but now that he's here he should at least be given two years to build a team with his own players.

I'm not sure the 'new' college football gives a coach two years, anymore. Look at Franklin; CFP to fired.
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(10-14-2025 05:44 PM)OdinFrigg Wrote:  
(10-14-2025 04:06 PM)bryanw1995 Wrote:  
(10-14-2025 03:02 PM)Dr Dawgma III Wrote:  Great points being made here. Coaches should be given five games to prove themselves, no more.

Or 6 games to prove that they really don't belong anymore, but only if they made the CFP semis and the CCG the year before.

A new coach can have a rough start. That is fairly common in college football. The question is “what is the trajectory”? Are players improving as the season progresses? Is the coaching staff making the necessary adjustments to improve the output? Are the players sufficiently motivated, and fully understand and support what the coaches are trying to accomplish? Are past penalties, blocking and tackling fundamentals, and other facets of play-making, getting addressed thoroughly with the team?

Does what’s happening now show an evidence of a turnaround? There’s more components to that than just the.W-L record.

We'll know more after the Cal game.

Clemson was preseason #4 and looks to be the team "we thought they were", so I'm not so sure how much that game taught us except it drove home the fact Carolina is now 0-3 as the Vegas dog and 2-0 as the favorite.

Looks like Cal is a 10 point favorite.
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RE: It's Becoming Clear That UNC Is Going To Fire Belichick
(10-15-2025 12:24 AM)WhidbeyWolf Wrote:  
(10-14-2025 01:16 PM)The Beaver Wrote:  
(10-12-2025 12:04 PM)WhidbeyWolf Wrote:  
(10-12-2025 11:31 AM)XLance Wrote:  
(10-12-2025 08:15 AM)Ned Low Wrote:  That’s certainly fair but the UNC fans expectations are so incredibly high that Bill may not get three years.

Ultimately, ticket sales and other money will determine whether Bill stays or goes.


Ticket prices are a really sore subject to many long term fans. Blame it on coaching salaries, NIL or whatever.

Some Carolina basketball ticket prices increased as much as 70% this year, while football ticket prices increased 30-50%.
I personally know several guys who were original seat license holders in the Dean Dome that have given up their seats this year because of price increases and sub-standard product on the court.
The University didn't bring Belichick in to re-build, but now that's the current messaging and were being asked to be patient. Price increases in a three to 5 year re-build will leave many empty seats until the team actually shows some improvement.

Catch me up here. Were you for or against Belichick's hiring?
Well, I was against hiring him, but now that he's here he should at least be given two years to build a team with his own players.

I'm not sure the 'new' college football gives a coach two years, anymore. Look at Franklin; CFP to fired.
Franklin had 12 years, up until last month he was a strong example of why you should wait and not fire the coach.
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RE: It's Becoming Clear That UNC Is Going To Fire Belichick
(10-15-2025 01:48 PM)The Beaver Wrote:  
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(10-14-2025 01:16 PM)The Beaver Wrote:  
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(10-12-2025 11:31 AM)XLance Wrote:  Ticket prices are a really sore subject to many long term fans. Blame it on coaching salaries, NIL or whatever.

Some Carolina basketball ticket prices increased as much as 70% this year, while football ticket prices increased 30-50%.
I personally know several guys who were original seat license holders in the Dean Dome that have given up their seats this year because of price increases and sub-standard product on the court.
The University didn't bring Belichick in to re-build, but now that's the current messaging and were being asked to be patient. Price increases in a three to 5 year re-build will leave many empty seats until the team actually shows some improvement.

Catch me up here. Were you for or against Belichick's hiring?
Well, I was against hiring him, but now that he's here he should at least be given two years to build a team with his own players.

I'm not sure the 'new' college football gives a coach two years, anymore. Look at Franklin; CFP to fired.
Franklin had 12 years, up until last month he was a strong example of why you should wait and not fire the coach.

It's always tough to move on, especially from someone like Franklin who seemed to be turning the corner. FWIW, it took Osborne 22 years to get over the hump. He was 9-3 in his 13th year. He lost 2 or 3 games every year from 84 to 92, then he won 3 national titles and only lost 3 games total over the next 5 years. Sometimes, long term excellence is a good trajectory, but the boosters get antsy and want immediate results, just like they demand in they invariably successful businesses. We see it all the time in the pros, and now that mentality has filtered down into colleges. Again, not saying that Franklin's time wasn't up, I've been there with Jimbo a few years ago, it's probably more a sign of the changing times in College Football these days.
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RE: It's Becoming Clear That UNC Is Going To Fire Belichick
(10-15-2025 01:48 PM)The Beaver Wrote:  
(10-15-2025 12:24 AM)WhidbeyWolf Wrote:  
(10-14-2025 01:16 PM)The Beaver Wrote:  
(10-12-2025 12:04 PM)WhidbeyWolf Wrote:  
(10-12-2025 11:31 AM)XLance Wrote:  Ticket prices are a really sore subject to many long term fans. Blame it on coaching salaries, NIL or whatever.

Some Carolina basketball ticket prices increased as much as 70% this year, while football ticket prices increased 30-50%.
I personally know several guys who were original seat license holders in the Dean Dome that have given up their seats this year because of price increases and sub-standard product on the court.
The University didn't bring Belichick in to re-build, but now that's the current messaging and were being asked to be patient. Price increases in a three to 5 year re-build will leave many empty seats until the team actually shows some improvement.

Catch me up here. Were you for or against Belichick's hiring?
Well, I was against hiring him, but now that he's here he should at least be given two years to build a team with his own players.

I'm not sure the 'new' college football gives a coach two years, anymore. Look at Franklin; CFP to fired.
Franklin had 12 years, up until last month he was a strong example of why you should wait and not fire the coach.

Good point, Beaver. While I am not particularly a Franklin fan, I deem his firing a bit premature.

Behind the scenes at Penn State, I get the perception there is more to the story than what has been publicly revealed. There may be deeper conflict in the athletic apparatus and/or between the administration and certain athletic personnel. Maybe Franklin did some things that offended certain folks on campus, and the university wants to keep that information suppressed. I am only speculating.
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RE: It's Becoming Clear That UNC Is Going To Fire Belichick
The Bill Belichick-Jordon Hudson saga has fallen deeper into the tabloid circus.

Hudson at best is a sideshow distraction, and at worst, an interference aspect with football operations. It’s up to Belichick to resolve, if he even sees it as a problem. That said, it may not be impacting the football team’s dismal performance in any significant way. It certainly is a public relations issue with an abundance of negative imagery.


https://www.sfgate.com/collegesports/art...100750.php

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2526...ecorations
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