(10-03-2025 02:18 PM)ragin4u Wrote:  

(10-03-2025 08:42 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(10-03-2025 08:39 AM)ragin4u Wrote:  

(10-03-2025 08:37 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(10-03-2025 08:28 AM)ragin4u Wrote:  Oh I missed this wall of text
So why were those gunned up Uvalde guys not Seal Teaming in to stop the guy with an ASSAULT RIFLE?

Its ridiculous that you people stick to those stupid talking points. No other country has the number of mass shootings as the good ole USA and all of those countries have video games, and movies, and mental illness and .... There is only one thing that is different. Say it with me---Its the ******* guns.

How do you explain the lack of school shootings in Switzerland then? You know where they allow men to keep their military rifles at home. Your logic is flawed. I've pointed out that guns were easier to get in past yet there were few if any school shootings until recent decades. There is another thing in the US that is different. A welfare system enacted in the 60"s that incentivized one parent households.

Now do Australia, and Canada and the UK and ....
No other country fetishizes guns and violence like the US. Have you read some of the comments in this forum?

As soon as you explain Switzerland who allows actual assault rifles to be kept at home even after they have been discharged. You also ignored the one parent households. Care to compare single parent households in the countries you point to?

No history of violence? An exception does not make a rule. Way more evidence the other way. And do you have a stat about single familes having some sort of over-representation in mass shootings? Is there not divorce in other countries?

Don't know what you mean by the first question. Look at crime pre Great Society and post Great Society. See if you see a trend.

(10-03-2025 02:23 PM)ragin4u Wrote:  

(10-03-2025 09:54 AM)olliebaba Wrote:  "And Australia and the UK are bad examples. They're arresting and putting on trial people over a difference of opinion. And what do they have in common? That's right. Guns are strictly limited in both countries. And no, they don't consider self-defense as a legitimate reason to own a firearm. GC

Heck, even with our neighbors to the south, if you're in possession of a firearm your S is in trouble, even a simple bullet in your pocket will get you a long prison sentence. But, with them (like Chicago) it's okay for criminals and gangbangers to own them. It's just that they don't want law abiding citizens to have possession of them, you know, in case there is a war with a tyrannical government which the Founders thought of to protect our rights from them.

Another thing, do you think Venezuela wants an armed citizenry? Supposedly, they're training their people to fight with broomsticks because they don't want any of them to have real rifles. How odd, I haven't seen any automatic broom handles in the market yet. Maduro ain't that stupid, he's afraid one of his people will bite the bullet and commit presidential assassination so he gives them brooms to train with.

If it was not so sad it would be funny that the Meal Team 6 Yall'queda types that have screamed that the 2A was adopted for just such a time as now. And instead of Don't Tread on Me, they are screeching Tread on Me Harder, Daddy.

What's funnier is you seem to think you are making a point with this nonsensical post.

(10-03-2025 08:39 AM)ragin4u Wrote:  

(10-03-2025 08:37 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(10-03-2025 08:28 AM)ragin4u Wrote:  

(10-02-2025 10:55 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  

(10-02-2025 08:45 AM)ragin4u Wrote:  Less than 50%(and usually WAY less) of all rounds fired by trained LEOs find their target and you idiots want more guns in schools.
Weird that NRA and trump rallies are gun-free zones. Kinda think that would be the safest place with all of those 'good guys with guns'.
Compare the number of gun, bomb, whatever school deaths in other countries compared to ours. Pro-life my sweet ass.

You obviously know jack squat about guns. Any time a cop fires his weapon the chances are that he is on the move or shooting at a moving target. Under those conditions a 50% hit rate is outstanding, hell, one of out 4 would be acceptable. But you wouldn't know that because you have likely never been in a scenario where you had to shoot a gun at all and especially shooting one in a tactical situation.

I am an expert marksman, or I was when I was a little younger, I am still proficient though, and I can nail a stationary target with a pistol from several distances in half dollar size groups. Put that same target on a track and make it move and accuracy falls dramatically. Moving yourself while trying to hit a stationary target is hard enough but shooting on the move at a moving target and hitting it is extremely difficult. I have been through numerous gun courses, from novice all the way up to expert, some I've taken multiple times just because I enjoyed them so much.

So, you have no point, at least no valid point, despite you deluding yourself into thinking you know a little something about guns, ballistics, shooting, and all the different dynamics involved. Prove me wrong without resorting to google and responding with some dumb*** talking point.

Now, as to your false equivalency about other countries, there is no apple to apple comparisons that apply. We are far larger than most countries, we have more population than most countries. Countries as large or larger than ours who prohibit gun ownership are typically authoritarian regimes like China or Russia where your ass wouldn't have the freedom to vomit criticisms of the government or it's leaders.

You've proven yourself to be in possession of an unserious intellect and warrant no additional responses that you might mistake for acknowledgment.

Oh I missed this wall of text
So why were those gunned up Uvalde guys not Seal Teaming in to stop the guy with an ASSAULT RIFLE?

Its ridiculous that you people stick to those stupid talking points. No other country has the number of mass shootings as the good ole USA and all of those countries have video games, and movies, and mental illness and .... There is only one thing that is different. Say it with me---Its the ******* guns.

How do you explain the lack of school shootings in Switzerland then? You know where they allow men to keep their military rifles at home. Your logic is flawed. I've pointed out that guns were easier to get in past yet there were few if any school shootings until recent decades. There is another thing in the US that is different. A welfare system enacted in the 60"s that incentivized one parent households.

Now do Australia, and Canada and the UK and ....
No other country fetishizes guns and violence like the US. Have you read some of the comments in this forum?

So move to one of those countries. Simple fix...

(10-03-2025 02:29 PM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(10-03-2025 02:23 PM)ragin4u Wrote:  

(10-03-2025 09:54 AM)olliebaba Wrote:  "And Australia and the UK are bad examples. They're arresting and putting on trial people over a difference of opinion. And what do they have in common? That's right. Guns are strictly limited in both countries. And no, they don't consider self-defense as a legitimate reason to own a firearm. GC

Heck, even with our neighbors to the south, if you're in possession of a firearm your S is in trouble, even a simple bullet in your pocket will get you a long prison sentence. But, with them (like Chicago) it's okay for criminals and gangbangers to own them. It's just that they don't want law abiding citizens to have possession of them, you know, in case there is a war with a tyrannical government which the Founders thought of to protect our rights from them.

Another thing, do you think Venezuela wants an armed citizenry? Supposedly, they're training their people to fight with broomsticks because they don't want any of them to have real rifles. How odd, I haven't seen any automatic broom handles in the market yet. Maduro ain't that stupid, he's afraid one of his people will bite the bullet and commit presidential assassination so he gives them brooms to train with.

If it was not so sad it would be funny that the Meal Team 6 Yall'queda types that have screamed that the 2A was adopted for just such a time as now. And instead of Don't Tread on Me, they are screeching Tread on Me Harder, Daddy.

What's funnier is you seem to think you are making a point with this nonsensical post.

I know, right? This guy has got to be a teenager. There's no way he's out of high school with the way he posts.

(10-03-2025 02:53 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  

(10-03-2025 02:29 PM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(10-03-2025 02:23 PM)ragin4u Wrote:  

(10-03-2025 09:54 AM)olliebaba Wrote:  "And Australia and the UK are bad examples. They're arresting and putting on trial people over a difference of opinion. And what do they have in common? That's right. Guns are strictly limited in both countries. And no, they don't consider self-defense as a legitimate reason to own a firearm. GC

Heck, even with our neighbors to the south, if you're in possession of a firearm your S is in trouble, even a simple bullet in your pocket will get you a long prison sentence. But, with them (like Chicago) it's okay for criminals and gangbangers to own them. It's just that they don't want law abiding citizens to have possession of them, you know, in case there is a war with a tyrannical government which the Founders thought of to protect our rights from them.

Another thing, do you think Venezuela wants an armed citizenry? Supposedly, they're training their people to fight with broomsticks because they don't want any of them to have real rifles. How odd, I haven't seen any automatic broom handles in the market yet. Maduro ain't that stupid, he's afraid one of his people will bite the bullet and commit presidential assassination so he gives them brooms to train with.

If it was not so sad it would be funny that the Meal Team 6 Yall'queda types that have screamed that the 2A was adopted for just such a time as now. And instead of Don't Tread on Me, they are screeching Tread on Me Harder, Daddy.

What's funnier is you seem to think you are making a point with this nonsensical post.

I know, right? This guy has got to be a teenager. There's no way he's out of high school with the way he posts.

This guy has had an account since 2014, so I doubt he's a teenager. He's just another angry woke leftist progressive. It says so in his profile picture.

(10-03-2025 02:54 PM)andybible1995 Wrote:  

(10-03-2025 02:53 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  

(10-03-2025 02:29 PM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(10-03-2025 02:23 PM)ragin4u Wrote:  

(10-03-2025 09:54 AM)olliebaba Wrote:  "And Australia and the UK are bad examples. They're arresting and putting on trial people over a difference of opinion. And what do they have in common? That's right. Guns are strictly limited in both countries. And no, they don't consider self-defense as a legitimate reason to own a firearm. GC

Heck, even with our neighbors to the south, if you're in possession of a firearm your S is in trouble, even a simple bullet in your pocket will get you a long prison sentence. But, with them (like Chicago) it's okay for criminals and gangbangers to own them. It's just that they don't want law abiding citizens to have possession of them, you know, in case there is a war with a tyrannical government which the Founders thought of to protect our rights from them.

Another thing, do you think Venezuela wants an armed citizenry? Supposedly, they're training their people to fight with broomsticks because they don't want any of them to have real rifles. How odd, I haven't seen any automatic broom handles in the market yet. Maduro ain't that stupid, he's afraid one of his people will bite the bullet and commit presidential assassination so he gives them brooms to train with.

If it was not so sad it would be funny that the Meal Team 6 Yall'queda types that have screamed that the 2A was adopted for just such a time as now. And instead of Don't Tread on Me, they are screeching Tread on Me Harder, Daddy.

What's funnier is you seem to think you are making a point with this nonsensical post.

I know, right? This guy has got to be a teenager. There's no way he's out of high school with the way he posts.

This guy has had an account since 2014, so I doubt he's a teenager. He's just another angry woke leftist progressive. It says so in his profile picture.

That's no excuse for him posting like he's 12. lol

(10-03-2025 02:55 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  

(10-03-2025 02:54 PM)andybible1995 Wrote:  

(10-03-2025 02:53 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  

(10-03-2025 02:29 PM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(10-03-2025 02:23 PM)ragin4u Wrote:  If it was not so sad it would be funny that the Meal Team 6 Yall'queda types that have screamed that the 2A was adopted for just such a time as now. And instead of Don't Tread on Me, they are screeching Tread on Me Harder, Daddy.

What's funnier is you seem to think you are making a point with this nonsensical post.

I know, right? This guy has got to be a teenager. There's no way he's out of high school with the way he posts.

This guy has had an account since 2014, so I doubt he's a teenager. He's just another angry woke leftist progressive. It says so in his profile picture.

That's no excuse for him posting like he's 12. lol

I know, but he doesn't care. He probably created his account in college. He's probably the same age as me.

(10-03-2025 02:57 PM)andybible1995 Wrote:  

(10-03-2025 02:55 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  

(10-03-2025 02:54 PM)andybible1995 Wrote:  

(10-03-2025 02:53 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  

(10-03-2025 02:29 PM)bearcat65 Wrote:  What's funnier is you seem to think you are making a point with this nonsensical post.

I know, right? This guy has got to be a teenager. There's no way he's out of high school with the way he posts.

This guy has had an account since 2014, so I doubt he's a teenager. He's just another angry woke leftist progressive. It says so in his profile picture.

That's no excuse for him posting like he's 12. lol

I know, but he doesn't care. He probably created his account in college. He's probably the same age as me.

To be honest, I wouldn't doubt that. lol

Wait, so andyb is 12?

(10-03-2025 02:59 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  Wait, so andyb is 12?

I don't think so. I think he's 30. lol

My sense of humor is mostly lost here.

(10-03-2025 03:00 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  

(10-03-2025 02:59 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  Wait, so andyb is 12?

I don't think so. I think he's 30. lol

Yes, I'm 30.

(10-03-2025 03:02 PM)andybible1995 Wrote:  

(10-03-2025 03:00 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  

(10-03-2025 02:59 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  Wait, so andyb is 12?

I don't think so. I think he's 30. lol

Yes, I'm 30.

My nephew Austin is also 30.

Bartlett: Oh, I legit laughed. I just wanted to make sure the mods didn't think he was underage. lol

Knife killed one. Gun killed one. Guess who shot the gun. Yup, one of the good guys.

This guy's still going. How hilarious!

(10-05-2025 12:44 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  This guy's still going. How hilarious!

Some people just don't know when to quit.

(10-05-2025 12:45 PM)andybible1995 Wrote:  

(10-05-2025 12:44 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  This guy's still going. How hilarious!

Some people just don't know when to quit.

Today, that doesn't really bother me very much. Let him flail about like some "air dancer" at a car dealership.

(10-05-2025 12:49 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  

(10-05-2025 12:45 PM)andybible1995 Wrote:  

(10-05-2025 12:44 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  This guy's still going. How hilarious!

Some people just don't know when to quit.

Today, that doesn't really bother me very much. Let him flail about like some "air dancer" at a car dealership.

Wacky inflatable flailing tube man.

(10-05-2025 12:41 PM)ragin4u Wrote:  Knife killed one. Gun killed one. Guess who shot the gun. Yup, one of the good guys.

Ee, i, ee, i, o

(10-05-2025 12:57 PM)andybible1995 Wrote:  

(10-05-2025 12:49 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  

(10-05-2025 12:45 PM)andybible1995 Wrote:  

(10-05-2025 12:44 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  This guy's still going. How hilarious!

Some people just don't know when to quit.

Today, that doesn't really bother me very much. Let him flail about like some "air dancer" at a car dealership.

Wacky inflatable flailing tube man.

Yes. This. lol