(09-24-2025 11:28 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-24-2025 11:22 AM)hburg Wrote:  Some people are just dumb. Common sense tells you, if it is an synthetic substance like medicine, there will be risk that can cause harm. Put chemicals in food, altar the genetics of food, put medals into vaccines, etc.., all have potential to cause irreversible harm. Yet when an association or causation is shown, it is met with, not true.. That is my drug...

Yes...but...

Quote:Acetaminophen exposure during pregnancy is not linked to the risk of developing autism, ADHD, or intellectual disability, according to a new study of data from more than 2 million children in Sweden. The collaborative research effort by Swedish and American investigators, which appears in JAMA, is the largest of its kind and was funded by the National Institute of Neurological Disorders and Stroke (NINDS), part of the National Institutes of Health (NIH).

Study reveals no causal link between neurodevelopmental disorders and acetaminophen exposure before birth

That study has a serious flaw in that it did not take into account people who took the drug when it wasnt prescribed.

"I gave this woman a single tablet in month 8, and we saw no link to autism" is not the flex you think it is. THe study admits they didnt include women who may have popped a couple of dozen during pregnancy.

One limitation of this study is that it relies on data from prescribed acetaminophen and from self-reporting from pregnant people during prenatal care. It may not capture all use or dosage in all people, particularly over-the-counter medicines.

Now I am being more and more convinced there is a direct correlation.

(09-24-2025 11:27 AM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  jamnetwork ????

Bahahahahaha

guess where the Johns Hopkins study referenced earlier that "proves" the link to autism was published?

And since I know you guys never bothered to read the article that was posted:

Quote:The researchers found consistent associations between the drug and the disorders across a variety of other factors that correlate with ADHD and autism spectrum disorder diagnoses, such as maternal BMI, preterm birth, child sex, and reports of maternal stressors and substance use.

Wang points out that although the study found a consistent association between biomarkers of acetaminophen and its metabolites in cord blood and child risk of ADHD and autism spectrum disorder, it should not be interpreted that the Tylenol use causes these disorders.

"More studies are clearly needed to further clarify the concern," Wang says. "Until it is certain, parents and providers may want to consider the benefit and potential risk when making a decision on the use of acetaminophen during pregnancy or the peripartum period."

(09-24-2025 11:32 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  You would think sensible people would all agree lets study it a little deeper and be sure. Can't hurt.


Instead the libs..."Trump said WHAT????

As I said earlier, it's very disturbing to me that so many people on the left would endanger themselves and their health just to spite Trump, and yet here we are with pregnant leftist women taking Tylenol like it's candy, which will surely kill their babies.

(09-24-2025 11:36 AM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  guess where the Johns Hopkins study referenced earlier that "proves" the link to autism was published?

You, nor they, have "proved" anything. Sheep.

(09-24-2025 11:32 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  You would think sensible people would all agree lets study it a little deeper and be sure. Can't hurt.


Instead the libs..."Trump said WHAT????

i'm all for studying it.

I'm sure Trump is going to fund the NIH which supports all of this research right?

Oh wait he's currently defunding it and driving away all of the US' top researchers.

(09-24-2025 11:35 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(09-24-2025 11:28 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-24-2025 11:22 AM)hburg Wrote:  Some people are just dumb. Common sense tells you, if it is an synthetic substance like medicine, there will be risk that can cause harm. Put chemicals in food, altar the genetics of food, put medals into vaccines, etc.., all have potential to cause irreversible harm. Yet when an association or causation is shown, it is met with, not true.. That is my drug...

Yes...but...

Quote:Acetaminophen exposure during pregnancy is not linked to the risk of developing autism, ADHD, or intellectual disability, according to a new study of data from more than 2 million children in Sweden. The collaborative research effort by Swedish and American investigators, which appears in JAMA, is the largest of its kind and was funded by the National Institute of Neurological Disorders and Stroke (NINDS), part of the National Institutes of Health (NIH).

Study reveals no causal link between neurodevelopmental disorders and acetaminophen exposure before birth

That study has a serious flaw in that it did not take into account people who took the drug when it wasnt prescribed.

"I gave this woman a single tablet in month 8, and we saw no link to autism" is not the flex you think it is. THe study admits they didnt include women who may have popped a couple of dozen during pregnancy.

One limitation of this study is that it relies on data from prescribed acetaminophen and from self-reporting from pregnant people during prenatal care. It may not capture all use or dosage in all people, particularly over-the-counter medicines.

Now I am being more and more convinced there is a direct correlation.

Only a fake troll would pretend its a flex at all.

NO ONE is that stupid.

(09-24-2025 11:16 AM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  

(09-24-2025 11:14 AM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  This is why its so important that people talk to their physicians, who can make a proper risk assessment.

There is not one physician in this world who I would trust to make a proper risk assessment for me.

You are simply a brainwashed sheep.

I listen to my doctor about my high blood pressure and the risks associated with it. I don't buy that most doctors are prescribing medicines just to get themselves rich. They believe that those medications work. I pay $4 for my lisinopril for a 60 day supply, and that is without using insurance. There is no way my doctor or the pharmaceutical company is getting rich off of me.

(09-24-2025 11:38 AM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  Oh wait he's currently defunding it and driving away all of the US' top researchers.

We voted for this.

(09-24-2025 11:39 AM)mlb Wrote:  

(09-24-2025 11:16 AM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  

(09-24-2025 11:14 AM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  This is why its so important that people talk to their physicians, who can make a proper risk assessment.

There is not one physician in this world who I would trust to make a proper risk assessment for me.

You are simply a brainwashed sheep.

I listen to my doctor about my high blood pressure and the risks associated with it. I don't buy that most doctors are prescribing medicines just to get themselves rich. They believe that those medications work. I pay $4 for my lisinopril for a 60 day supply, and that is without using insurance. There is no way my doctor or the pharmaceutical company is getting rich off of me.

I don't have a doctor so they make nothing from me.

(09-24-2025 11:40 AM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  

(09-24-2025 11:39 AM)mlb Wrote:  

(09-24-2025 11:16 AM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  

(09-24-2025 11:14 AM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  This is why its so important that people talk to their physicians, who can make a proper risk assessment.

There is not one physician in this world who I would trust to make a proper risk assessment for me.

You are simply a brainwashed sheep.

I listen to my doctor about my high blood pressure and the risks associated with it. I don't buy that most doctors are prescribing medicines just to get themselves rich. They believe that those medications work. I pay $4 for my lisinopril for a 60 day supply, and that is without using insurance. There is no way my doctor or the pharmaceutical company is getting rich off of me.

I don't have a doctor so they make nothing from me.

this tracks.

(09-24-2025 11:38 AM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  

(09-24-2025 11:32 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  You would think sensible people would all agree lets study it a little deeper and be sure. Can't hurt.


Instead the libs..."Trump said WHAT????

i'm all for studying it.

I'm sure Trump is going to fund the NIH which supports all of this research right?

Oh wait he's currently defunding it and driving away all of the US' top researchers.

Yeah, because Trump doesn't want medical research

and medical research funding can only come from the government and only through one single program.

Medical research receives funding from numerous sources outside the National Institutes of Health (NIH), including other U.S. government agencies (like NSF), private foundations, nonprofit organizations, and the pharmaceutical industry. While NIH is a major federal funder, a diverse ecosystem of public and private entities provides financial support for medical research.

Swing and a miss, Ballsaqq

(09-24-2025 11:35 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(09-24-2025 11:28 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-24-2025 11:22 AM)hburg Wrote:  Some people are just dumb. Common sense tells you, if it is an synthetic substance like medicine, there will be risk that can cause harm. Put chemicals in food, altar the genetics of food, put medals into vaccines, etc.., all have potential to cause irreversible harm. Yet when an association or causation is shown, it is met with, not true.. That is my drug...

Yes...but...

Quote:Acetaminophen exposure during pregnancy is not linked to the risk of developing autism, ADHD, or intellectual disability, according to a new study of data from more than 2 million children in Sweden. The collaborative research effort by Swedish and American investigators, which appears in JAMA, is the largest of its kind and was funded by the National Institute of Neurological Disorders and Stroke (NINDS), part of the National Institutes of Health (NIH).

Study reveals no causal link between neurodevelopmental disorders and acetaminophen exposure before birth

That study has a serious flaw in that it did not take into account people who took the drug when it wasnt prescribed.

"I gave this woman a single tablet in month 8, and we saw no link to autism" is not the flex you think it is. THe study admits they didnt include women who may have popped a couple of dozen during pregnancy.

One limitation of this study is that it relies on data from prescribed acetaminophen and from self-reporting from pregnant people during prenatal care. It may not capture all use or dosage in all people, particularly over-the-counter medicines.

Now I am being more and more convinced there is a direct correlation.

there's going to be holes in any population based study.

Most people, maybe not you, think theres an ethical problem with doing clinical trials on pregnant women involving medication.

(09-24-2025 11:42 AM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  this tracks.

I've barely ever been sick a day in my adult life. I bet you can't say that. I eat well and exercise, doctors don't recommend that, they recommend lots of meds. I don't take med, so what do I need from a doctor?

(09-24-2025 11:51 AM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  

(09-24-2025 11:42 AM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  this tracks.

I've barely ever been sick a day in my adult life. I bet you can't say that. I eat well and exercise, doctors don't recommend that, they recommend lots of meds. I don't take med, so what do I need from a doctor?

I don't know what doctors you've been seeing, my doctor most definitely told me to get more exercise, cut sodium, and adjust my eating habits to help with my blood pressure, while also giving me a low dose of lisinopril.

(09-24-2025 11:43 AM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  

(09-24-2025 11:35 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(09-24-2025 11:28 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-24-2025 11:22 AM)hburg Wrote:  Some people are just dumb. Common sense tells you, if it is an synthetic substance like medicine, there will be risk that can cause harm. Put chemicals in food, altar the genetics of food, put medals into vaccines, etc.., all have potential to cause irreversible harm. Yet when an association or causation is shown, it is met with, not true.. That is my drug...

Yes...but...

Quote:Acetaminophen exposure during pregnancy is not linked to the risk of developing autism, ADHD, or intellectual disability, according to a new study of data from more than 2 million children in Sweden. The collaborative research effort by Swedish and American investigators, which appears in JAMA, is the largest of its kind and was funded by the National Institute of Neurological Disorders and Stroke (NINDS), part of the National Institutes of Health (NIH).

Study reveals no causal link between neurodevelopmental disorders and acetaminophen exposure before birth

That study has a serious flaw in that it did not take into account people who took the drug when it wasnt prescribed.

"I gave this woman a single tablet in month 8, and we saw no link to autism" is not the flex you think it is. THe study admits they didnt include women who may have popped a couple of dozen during pregnancy.

One limitation of this study is that it relies on data from prescribed acetaminophen and from self-reporting from pregnant people during prenatal care. It may not capture all use or dosage in all people, particularly over-the-counter medicines.

Now I am being more and more convinced there is a direct correlation.

there's going to be holes in any population based study.

Most people, maybe not you, think theres an ethical problem with doing clinical trials on pregnant women involving medication.

Then dont do it.

And also warn that tylenol is not approved for women in pregnancy, instead of just allowing them to think its safe and effective.

Also, any studies like John Hopkins which point out a high liklihood of correlation needs to be adhered to instead of brushing it off.

(09-24-2025 11:54 AM)mlb Wrote:  I don't know what doctors you've been seeing, my doctor most definitely told me to get more exercise, cut sodium, and adjust my eating habits to help with my blood pressure, while also giving me a low dose of lisinopril.

Doctors prescribe medicines. Aside from surgeons, that's basically all they do. So does yours.

(09-24-2025 12:15 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  

(09-24-2025 11:54 AM)mlb Wrote:  I don't know what doctors you've been seeing, my doctor most definitely told me to get more exercise, cut sodium, and adjust my eating habits to help with my blood pressure, while also giving me a low dose of lisinopril.

Doctors prescribe medicines. Aside from surgeons, that's basically all they do. So does yours.

how would you know? You don't go to a doctor and don't have a doctor. And even if you did you boasted you wouldn't listen to a doctor.

The same filth that demanded people get the clot shot are defending tylenol for preg women


Please just go frick off

(09-24-2025 12:10 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(09-24-2025 11:43 AM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  

(09-24-2025 11:35 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(09-24-2025 11:28 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-24-2025 11:22 AM)hburg Wrote:  Some people are just dumb. Common sense tells you, if it is an synthetic substance like medicine, there will be risk that can cause harm. Put chemicals in food, altar the genetics of food, put medals into vaccines, etc.., all have potential to cause irreversible harm. Yet when an association or causation is shown, it is met with, not true.. That is my drug...

Yes...but...

Quote:Acetaminophen exposure during pregnancy is not linked to the risk of developing autism, ADHD, or intellectual disability, according to a new study of data from more than 2 million children in Sweden. The collaborative research effort by Swedish and American investigators, which appears in JAMA, is the largest of its kind and was funded by the National Institute of Neurological Disorders and Stroke (NINDS), part of the National Institutes of Health (NIH).

Study reveals no causal link between neurodevelopmental disorders and acetaminophen exposure before birth

That study has a serious flaw in that it did not take into account people who took the drug when it wasnt prescribed.

"I gave this woman a single tablet in month 8, and we saw no link to autism" is not the flex you think it is. THe study admits they didnt include women who may have popped a couple of dozen during pregnancy.

One limitation of this study is that it relies on data from prescribed acetaminophen and from self-reporting from pregnant people during prenatal care. It may not capture all use or dosage in all people, particularly over-the-counter medicines.

Now I am being more and more convinced there is a direct correlation.

there's going to be holes in any population based study.

Most people, maybe not you, think theres an ethical problem with doing clinical trials on pregnant women involving medication.

Then dont do it.

And also warn that tylenol is not approved for women in pregnancy, instead of just allowing them to think its safe and effective.

Also, any studies like John Hopkins which point out a high liklihood of correlation needs to be adhered to instead of brushing it off.

There's a warning on every single bottle of Tylenol that advises pregnant and breastfeeding moms to consult a physician before use.

And they should and that should be the messaging of the administration if they cared about actual health.

(09-24-2025 12:20 PM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  

(09-24-2025 12:15 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  

(09-24-2025 11:54 AM)mlb Wrote:  I don't know what doctors you've been seeing, my doctor most definitely told me to get more exercise, cut sodium, and adjust my eating habits to help with my blood pressure, while also giving me a low dose of lisinopril.

Doctors prescribe medicines. Aside from surgeons, that's basically all they do. So does yours.

how would you know? You don't go to a doctor and don't have a doctor. And even if you did you boasted you wouldn't listen to a doctor.

The last time I had reason to go to a doctor was about 12 years ago. It was for an injury. They ran all kinds of tests on me. The doctor wrote me two prescriptions, one for a Statin and one for Metformin. He said my cholesterol was high and my A1C was high. I had signed up for this MyChart thing so I had access to my test results.

I don't remember the results for cholesterol, but I researched it and it was very slightly high. I also researched the side effects of a Statin and they were way worse than the slightly elevated results I had.

My A1C was 5.5. If you know anything about it you know that's completely normal. I can only assume no one checks behind their doctor.

I changed my diet a little to help with the cholesterol numbers and when I went back my cholesterol was completely normal. My A1C was 4.7.

The doctor was ecstatic. He said, "the meds worked great!". I said, that's funny because I never filled your scripts. He wasn't happy. I never went back.

True story.