(09-16-2025 11:43 AM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  

(09-16-2025 11:42 AM)TripleA Wrote:  That's awful. He actually contributed to the shooter escaping.

What a POS. Seems to be a lot of that going around lately.

Yep. We can find exhibit A on this very subforum. (I won't say his name, but you know of whom I speak.)

Well, Tanq isn't around, so...

(09-16-2025 11:46 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(09-16-2025 11:43 AM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  

(09-16-2025 11:42 AM)TripleA Wrote:  That's awful. He actually contributed to the shooter escaping.

What a POS. Seems to be a lot of that going around lately.

Yep. We can find exhibit A on this very subforum. (I won't say his name, but you know of whom I speak.)

Well, Tanq isn't around, so...

No, the other T-word. That said, yeah, tanq's included in that, too.

(09-16-2025 11:39 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(09-16-2025 10:57 AM)513Alex Wrote:  Man claimed to shoot Charlie Kirk to ‘draw attention from the real shooter,’ police say

OREM — Police say that a Salt Lake City man — who was no stranger to the state’s political scene — claimed responsibility moments after the shooting death of conservative activist Charlie Kirk, in an attempt to “draw attention from the real shooter.”

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/man-...p_catchall

I knew there had to be something more to this.

I dont think the guy made any difference. He should be charged with obstruction and lying to officers---but its not like Charlie Kirk had Secret Service type protection. There was no outer perimeter. In the moments immediately following the shooting, its obvious any security in place had no idea where the shot came from---otherwise they would have never believed this man was the shooter. Again, I remain very impressed with how quickly the FBI put the pieces together and managed the public messaging such that they had the real shooter in custody in 33 hours.

(09-16-2025 11:54 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(09-16-2025 11:39 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(09-16-2025 10:57 AM)513Alex Wrote:  Man claimed to shoot Charlie Kirk to ‘draw attention from the real shooter,’ police say

OREM — Police say that a Salt Lake City man — who was no stranger to the state’s political scene — claimed responsibility moments after the shooting death of conservative activist Charlie Kirk, in an attempt to “draw attention from the real shooter.”

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/man-...p_catchall

I knew there had to be something more to this.

I dont think the guy made any difference. He should be charged with obstruction and lying to officers---but its not like Charlie Kirk had Secret Service type protection. There was no outer perimeter. In the moments immediately following the shooting, its obvious any security in place had no idea where the shot came from---otherwise they would have never believed this man was the shooter.

It doesn't make any difference whether it really mattered or not. The act is still the same criminal offense.

And they still caught him in 33 hours, b/c he couldn't keep his mouth shut.

(09-16-2025 11:56 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(09-16-2025 11:54 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(09-16-2025 11:39 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(09-16-2025 10:57 AM)513Alex Wrote:  Man claimed to shoot Charlie Kirk to ‘draw attention from the real shooter,’ police say

OREM — Police say that a Salt Lake City man — who was no stranger to the state’s political scene — claimed responsibility moments after the shooting death of conservative activist Charlie Kirk, in an attempt to “draw attention from the real shooter.”

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/man-...p_catchall

I knew there had to be something more to this.

I dont think the guy made any difference. He should be charged with obstruction and lying to officers---but its not like Charlie Kirk had Secret Service type protection. There was no outer perimeter. In the moments immediately following the shooting, its obvious any security in place had no idea where the shot came from---otherwise they would have never believed this man was the shooter.

It doesn't make any difference whether it really mattered or not. The act is still the same criminal offense.

Correct. He absolutely should be charged. Im just saying this loser guy failed because his actions made no difference.

(09-16-2025 11:54 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(09-16-2025 11:39 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(09-16-2025 10:57 AM)513Alex Wrote:  Man claimed to shoot Charlie Kirk to ‘draw attention from the real shooter,’ police say

OREM — Police say that a Salt Lake City man — who was no stranger to the state’s political scene — claimed responsibility moments after the shooting death of conservative activist Charlie Kirk, in an attempt to “draw attention from the real shooter.”

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/man-...p_catchall

I knew there had to be something more to this.

I dont think the guy made any difference. He should be charged with obstruction and lying to officers---but its not like Charlie Kirk had Secret Service type protection. There was no outer perimeter. In the moments immediately following the shooting, its obvious any security in place had no idea where the shot came from---otherwise they would have never believed this man was the shooter. Again, I remain very impressed with how quickly the FBI put the pieces together and managed the public messaging such that they had the real shooter in custody in 33 hours.

No, I meant there had to be some reason they went after this guy in the first place. And the reason was, he was shouting he did it. And if he did this because he was trying to aid the killer to escape, he could face the same penalties as the shooter himself.

(09-16-2025 11:39 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(09-16-2025 10:57 AM)513Alex Wrote:  Man claimed to shoot Charlie Kirk to ‘draw attention from the real shooter,’ police say

OREM — Police say that a Salt Lake City man — who was no stranger to the state’s political scene — claimed responsibility moments after the shooting death of conservative activist Charlie Kirk, in an attempt to “draw attention from the real shooter.”

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/man-...p_catchall

I knew there had to be something more to this.

Yeah there's likely a lot more to it. This thread seems bereft of the the conspiracy stuff maybe a thread dedicated to it is more appropriate. I hesitate to believe everything the FBI lets out which to date isn't that much. It seems the crime was not even secured ever by police, people were taking the TPUSA video cams away from the scene early on. You have to admit this guy Robinson is the perfect patsy...not saying he wasn't on that roof either.

To clarify Zinn was arrested yesterday by local police it seems.

(09-16-2025 11:59 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(09-16-2025 11:54 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(09-16-2025 11:39 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(09-16-2025 10:57 AM)513Alex Wrote:  Man claimed to shoot Charlie Kirk to ‘draw attention from the real shooter,’ police say

OREM — Police say that a Salt Lake City man — who was no stranger to the state’s political scene — claimed responsibility moments after the shooting death of conservative activist Charlie Kirk, in an attempt to “draw attention from the real shooter.”

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/man-...p_catchall

I knew there had to be something more to this.

I dont think the guy made any difference. He should be charged with obstruction and lying to officers---but its not like Charlie Kirk had Secret Service type protection. There was no outer perimeter. In the moments immediately following the shooting, its obvious any security in place had no idea where the shot came from---otherwise they would have never believed this man was the shooter. Again, I remain very impressed with how quickly the FBI put the pieces together and managed the public messaging such that they had the real shooter in custody in 33 hours.

No, I meant there had to be some reason they went after this guy in the first place. And the reason was, he was shouting he did it. And if he did this because he was trying to aid the killer to escape, he could face the same penalties as the shooter himself.

He would be guilty of conspiracy to commit murder. The same if the trans questioner were involved, though I'm more doubtful of that one, and there was a guy in the crowd besides the one who distracted by saying he did it that was making hand gestures above his head prior to the shot. Maybe he was identifying his location in the crowd to a friend, or he could have been helping line things up. Either of the last two could be innocent completely and it just be a matter of circumstantial activity unrelated to the shooting. But the guy who yelled I did it drew all of the eyes away from the area of the shooter, which seemed intentional to me.

(09-16-2025 12:06 PM)513Alex Wrote:  

(09-16-2025 11:39 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(09-16-2025 10:57 AM)513Alex Wrote:  Man claimed to shoot Charlie Kirk to ‘draw attention from the real shooter,’ police say

OREM — Police say that a Salt Lake City man — who was no stranger to the state’s political scene — claimed responsibility moments after the shooting death of conservative activist Charlie Kirk, in an attempt to “draw attention from the real shooter.”

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/man-...p_catchall

I knew there had to be something more to this.

Yeah there's likely a lot more to it. This thread seems bereft of the the conspiracy stuff maybe a thread dedicated to it is more appropriate. I hesitate to believe everything the FBI lets out which to date isn't that much. It seems the crime was not even secured ever by police, people were taking the TPUSA video cams away from the scene early on. You have to admit this guy Robinson is the perfect patsy...not saying he wasn't on that roof either.

To clarify Zinn was arrested yesterday by local police it seems.

Okay, they reportedly got Robinson's DNA from a screwdriver on the roof, plus from the towel wrapped around the gun, and the gun is still out for DNA samples in the FBI DC lab.

(09-16-2025 12:10 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(09-16-2025 12:06 PM)513Alex Wrote:  

(09-16-2025 11:39 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(09-16-2025 10:57 AM)513Alex Wrote:  Man claimed to shoot Charlie Kirk to ‘draw attention from the real shooter,’ police say

OREM — Police say that a Salt Lake City man — who was no stranger to the state’s political scene — claimed responsibility moments after the shooting death of conservative activist Charlie Kirk, in an attempt to “draw attention from the real shooter.”

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/man-...p_catchall

I knew there had to be something more to this.

Yeah there's likely a lot more to it. This thread seems bereft of the the conspiracy stuff maybe a thread dedicated to it is more appropriate. I hesitate to believe everything the FBI lets out which to date isn't that much. It seems the crime was not even secured ever by police, people were taking the TPUSA video cams away from the scene early on. You have to admit this guy Robinson is the perfect patsy...not saying he wasn't on that roof either.

To clarify Zinn was arrested yesterday by local police it seems.

Okay, they reportedly got Robinson's DNA from a screwdriver on the roof, plus from the towel wrapped around the gun, and the gun is still out for DNA samples in the FBI DC lab.

Assuming that all on the up and up when he jumped off of the roof he was not carrying an intact rifle. The time stamp on that video is 12:23 the same as CK being shot, so how long does it take to break that rifle down? Can all parts fit in the back pack or a portion and then why reassemble the rifle in the woods? And if the screwdriver was important why leave it? Did he need to reassemble the rifle? Did someone else take the rifle away through regular corridors?

For me it has been interesting to now understand that CK had made some very powerful enemies, I had no idea. Really did not follow him closely.

Zinn has a history of disrupting political events and prior criminal charges. Past offenses include a 2013 bomb threat at the Salt Lake City marathon. In addition to obstruction charges, the would-be “martyr” also faces child pornography charges, related to images of underage girls that investigators found on his phone. He reportedly confessed to being “sexually aroused” by children.
https://thenationalpulse.com/2025/09/16/...99c675f4ef

(09-16-2025 12:16 PM)513Alex Wrote:  

(09-16-2025 12:10 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(09-16-2025 12:06 PM)513Alex Wrote:  

(09-16-2025 11:39 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(09-16-2025 10:57 AM)513Alex Wrote:  Man claimed to shoot Charlie Kirk to ‘draw attention from the real shooter,’ police say

OREM — Police say that a Salt Lake City man — who was no stranger to the state’s political scene — claimed responsibility moments after the shooting death of conservative activist Charlie Kirk, in an attempt to “draw attention from the real shooter.”

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/man-...p_catchall

I knew there had to be something more to this.

Yeah there's likely a lot more to it. This thread seems bereft of the the conspiracy stuff maybe a thread dedicated to it is more appropriate. I hesitate to believe everything the FBI lets out which to date isn't that much. It seems the crime was not even secured ever by police, people were taking the TPUSA video cams away from the scene early on. You have to admit this guy Robinson is the perfect patsy...not saying he wasn't on that roof either.

To clarify Zinn was arrested yesterday by local police it seems.

Okay, they reportedly got Robinson's DNA from a screwdriver on the roof, plus from the towel wrapped around the gun, and the gun is still out for DNA samples in the FBI DC lab.

Assuming that all on the up and up when he jumped off of the roof he was not carrying an intact rifle. The time stamp on that video is 12:23 the same as CK being shot, so how long does it take to break that rifle down? Can all parts fit in the back pack or a portion and then why reassemble the rifle in the woods? And if the screwdriver was important why leave it? Did he need to reassemble the rifle? Did someone else take the rifle away through regular corridors?

He fired, wrapped it in the towel and dropped it off the roof onto the ground. He then took the lowest point to the ground to dangle and drop. He exits by the side of the building he fired from and on the side where he dropped the rifle and placed it in the woods. Or same scenario only someone is waiting on the ground to take the rifle to the woods while he escapes. Take your pick. But even a twenty-foot drop of the gun, if wrapped in a towel and dropped onto the grass would not hurt the weapon, possibly the scope, but not the weapon.

(09-16-2025 12:16 PM)513Alex Wrote:  

(09-16-2025 12:10 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(09-16-2025 12:06 PM)513Alex Wrote:  

(09-16-2025 11:39 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(09-16-2025 10:57 AM)513Alex Wrote:  Man claimed to shoot Charlie Kirk to ‘draw attention from the real shooter,’ police say

OREM — Police say that a Salt Lake City man — who was no stranger to the state’s political scene — claimed responsibility moments after the shooting death of conservative activist Charlie Kirk, in an attempt to “draw attention from the real shooter.”

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/man-...p_catchall

I knew there had to be something more to this.

Yeah there's likely a lot more to it. This thread seems bereft of the the conspiracy stuff maybe a thread dedicated to it is more appropriate. I hesitate to believe everything the FBI lets out which to date isn't that much. It seems the crime was not even secured ever by police, people were taking the TPUSA video cams away from the scene early on. You have to admit this guy Robinson is the perfect patsy...not saying he wasn't on that roof either.

To clarify Zinn was arrested yesterday by local police it seems.

Okay, they reportedly got Robinson's DNA from a screwdriver on the roof, plus from the towel wrapped around the gun, and the gun is still out for DNA samples in the FBI DC lab.

Assuming that all on the up and up when he jumped off of the roof he was not carrying an intact rifle. The time stamp on that video is 12:23 the same as CK being shot, so how long does it take to break that rifle down? Can all parts fit in the back pack or a portion and then why reassemble the rifle in the woods? And if the screwdriver was important why leave it? Did he need to reassemble the rifle? Did someone else take the rifle away through regular corridors?

Feel free to stay in that rabbit hole by yourself.

(09-16-2025 11:58 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(09-16-2025 11:56 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(09-16-2025 11:54 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(09-16-2025 11:39 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(09-16-2025 10:57 AM)513Alex Wrote:  Man claimed to shoot Charlie Kirk to ‘draw attention from the real shooter,’ police say

OREM — Police say that a Salt Lake City man — who was no stranger to the state’s political scene — claimed responsibility moments after the shooting death of conservative activist Charlie Kirk, in an attempt to “draw attention from the real shooter.”

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/man-...p_catchall

I knew there had to be something more to this.

I dont think the guy made any difference. He should be charged with obstruction and lying to officers---but its not like Charlie Kirk had Secret Service type protection. There was no outer perimeter. In the moments immediately following the shooting, its obvious any security in place had no idea where the shot came from---otherwise they would have never believed this man was the shooter.

It doesn't make any difference whether it really mattered or not. The act is still the same criminal offense.

Correct. He absolutely should be charged. Im just saying this loser guy failed because his actions made no difference.

And thank the Good Lord Almighty his actions failed.

I'm not going down a conspiracy theory rabbit hole because this seems pretty cut and dry.

However, a friend of Charlie Kirk's that I follow on social media posted this. Anybody have thoughts? One thought I have is that it could be AI. I don't know.

Sorry, the only link I've found for it is on Instagram.

Instagram - shot from the side?

I don't think it matters at all. Stuff like this pops up every time there is a public assassination of a public figure.

They have the shooter. They have the gun. They have the bullet. They have DNA. They have a confession from the family. They have online evidence linking Robinson to the crime, before and after, etc.

Anything else becomes irrelevant, until and unless real evidence, not a theory, is discovered indicating anything else.

(09-16-2025 12:26 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(09-16-2025 12:16 PM)513Alex Wrote:  

(09-16-2025 12:10 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(09-16-2025 12:06 PM)513Alex Wrote:  

(09-16-2025 11:39 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

I knew there had to be something more to this.

Yeah there's likely a lot more to it. This thread seems bereft of the the conspiracy stuff maybe a thread dedicated to it is more appropriate. I hesitate to believe everything the FBI lets out which to date isn't that much. It seems the crime was not even secured ever by police, people were taking the TPUSA video cams away from the scene early on. You have to admit this guy Robinson is the perfect patsy...not saying he wasn't on that roof either.

To clarify Zinn was arrested yesterday by local police it seems.

Okay, they reportedly got Robinson's DNA from a screwdriver on the roof, plus from the towel wrapped around the gun, and the gun is still out for DNA samples in the FBI DC lab.

Assuming that all on the up and up when he jumped off of the roof he was not carrying an intact rifle. The time stamp on that video is 12:23 the same as CK being shot, so how long does it take to break that rifle down? Can all parts fit in the back pack or a portion and then why reassemble the rifle in the woods? And if the screwdriver was important why leave it? Did he need to reassemble the rifle? Did someone else take the rifle away through regular corridors?

Feel free to stay in that rabbit hole by yourself.

That's not going to happen.

(09-16-2025 01:05 PM)513Alex Wrote:  

(09-16-2025 12:26 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(09-16-2025 12:16 PM)513Alex Wrote:  

(09-16-2025 12:10 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(09-16-2025 12:06 PM)513Alex Wrote:  Yeah there's likely a lot more to it. This thread seems bereft of the the conspiracy stuff maybe a thread dedicated to it is more appropriate. I hesitate to believe everything the FBI lets out which to date isn't that much. It seems the crime was not even secured ever by police, people were taking the TPUSA video cams away from the scene early on. You have to admit this guy Robinson is the perfect patsy...not saying he wasn't on that roof either.

To clarify Zinn was arrested yesterday by local police it seems.

Okay, they reportedly got Robinson's DNA from a screwdriver on the roof, plus from the towel wrapped around the gun, and the gun is still out for DNA samples in the FBI DC lab.

Assuming that all on the up and up when he jumped off of the roof he was not carrying an intact rifle. The time stamp on that video is 12:23 the same as CK being shot, so how long does it take to break that rifle down? Can all parts fit in the back pack or a portion and then why reassemble the rifle in the woods? And if the screwdriver was important why leave it? Did he need to reassemble the rifle? Did someone else take the rifle away through regular corridors?

Feel free to stay in that rabbit hole by yourself.

That's not going to happen.

I meant without me, lol. Feel free to invite others.

(09-16-2025 12:50 PM)TripleA Wrote:  I don't think it matters at all. Stuff like this pops up every time there is a public assassination of a public figure.

They have the shooter. They have the gun. They have the bullet. They have DNA. They have a confession from the family. They have online evidence linking Robinson to the crime, before and after, etc.

Anything else becomes irrelevant, until and unless real evidence, not a theory, is discovered indicating anything else.

No forensics has been disclosed, no bullet as far I know. The family can't confess to the shooting they were not a witness. They recognized his photos that the FBI released as a person of interest. The autopsy has not been released either. The online evidence is an account name that the room mate lover said it belonged to Robinson.