Remember, don't quote Tom, folks.

(09-11-2025 12:21 PM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  

(09-11-2025 12:17 PM)b2b Wrote:  

(09-11-2025 12:09 PM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  I would implore them to read John 8 15:16.

If someone simply copy and pasted Jesus' words here unattributed he would be called prog filth and recommended for deportation.

You aren't making sense.

John 8:15-16 (NIV)
15: You judge by human standards; I pass judgment on no one.
16: But if I do judge, my decisions are true, because I am not alone. I stand with the Father, who sent me.

John 15:16 (in the NIV translation) states: "You did not choose me, but I chose you and appointed you to go and bear fruit—fruit that will last—so that whatever you ask the Father in my name he will give you".

if you read the full comment, Oruvoice talked about the judgment of sinners. John 8 15-16 is about God being the judge of sinners, by his own standards not human standards.

Again, you're not making any sense. There is no inconsistency regarding His judgement or ours so long as they align w/ His teaching.

Its the ultimate irony becuase when we preach repentance and salvation through Jesus to the lost, we get called nazis, extremists and haters who force our beliefs on others,

Then we have clowns like this come here and say we don't love sinners.

unbelievable

(09-11-2025 12:28 PM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  

(09-11-2025 12:23 PM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  

(09-11-2025 12:15 PM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  

(09-11-2025 12:10 PM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  

(09-11-2025 12:09 PM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  I would implore them to read John 8 15:16.

If someone simply copy and pasted Jesus' words here unattributed he would be called prog filth and recommended for deportation.

So you only want Christian ethics when it furthers your political agenda?

people who claim to be Christian should be advocating for things that Jesus called people to do. Which unironically isn't what is most often thrown around this board.

But hold on, if you’re going to use the Bible to justify your political beliefs as well, then why are you cherry picking only one part and not adhering to it all as well?

Aren’t we supposed to rule as secularists? That’s what the left wants.

I want an answer to this. Don’t ignore

whats your question?

Do they teach punctuation at App State?

(09-11-2025 12:30 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  Remember, don't quote Tom, folks.

(09-11-2025 12:33 PM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  

(09-11-2025 12:28 PM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  

(09-11-2025 12:23 PM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  

(09-11-2025 12:15 PM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  

(09-11-2025 12:10 PM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  So you only want Christian ethics when it furthers your political agenda?

people who claim to be Christian should be advocating for things that Jesus called people to do. Which unironically isn't what is most often thrown around this board.

But hold on, if you’re going to use the Bible to justify your political beliefs as well, then why are you cherry picking only one part and not adhering to it all as well?

Aren’t we supposed to rule as secularists? That’s what the left wants.

I want an answer to this. Don’t ignore

whats your question?

1. Why do non Christians quote the Bible to show hypocrisy when it comes to political issues, yet deny everything else?

2. Why do christians have to adhere to the Bible for political purposes, when the left doesn’t at all, and prefer us all to govern as secularists (separation of church and state)

Please answer these two questions. Thank you for your attention to this matter.

(09-11-2025 10:51 AM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  

(09-11-2025 10:51 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(09-11-2025 10:44 AM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  

(09-11-2025 10:35 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-11-2025 10:34 AM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  Sure. I bet they’re doing all they can.

Out of all the garbage on X/social media, that’s what bothers you the most?

The Director of the FBI is sort of separate and above...or at least should be above...the garbage of all social media, no?

I don’t really get the outrage.

He thought that guy was the shooter, and once he knew he was wrong, corrected the record and released him.

Who honestly cares? I’m way more concerned about posts celebrating the shooting and what comes next.

Its all Tom can find to be outraged over. Not a peep about the murder or the awfulness of it or any of the other vile stuff we are seeing from the loony left over it.

Nope. Not a peep.

Just disgusting gleeful comments about Trannies arming themselves and this.

He is just an awful, miserable excuse for a human.

He’s better than this

This you?

(09-10-2025 05:41 PM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  Kruciff, the biggest ***** on this board returns after someone is assassinated to dance on their graves.

May you and someone you love suffer the same fate.

https://csnbbs.com/thread-1015330-post-2...id20300539

You better than this? I haven't wished for anyone to suffer the same fate here.

(09-11-2025 12:36 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-11-2025 10:51 AM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  

(09-11-2025 10:51 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(09-11-2025 10:44 AM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  

(09-11-2025 10:35 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  The Director of the FBI is sort of separate and above...or at least should be above...the garbage of all social media, no?

I don’t really get the outrage.

He thought that guy was the shooter, and once he knew he was wrong, corrected the record and released him.

Who honestly cares? I’m way more concerned about posts celebrating the shooting and what comes next.

Its all Tom can find to be outraged over. Not a peep about the murder or the awfulness of it or any of the other vile stuff we are seeing from the loony left over it.

Nope. Not a peep.

Just disgusting gleeful comments about Trannies arming themselves and this.

He is just an awful, miserable excuse for a human.

He’s better than this

This you?

(09-10-2025 05:41 PM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  Kruciff, the biggest ***** on this board returns after someone is assassinated to dance on their graves.

May you and someone you love suffer the same fate.

https://csnbbs.com/thread-1015330-post-2...id20300539

You better than this? I haven't wished for anyone to suffer the same fate here.

I hope anyone celebrating the murder of an innocent suffers the same fate. Yes.

Now move along.

(09-11-2025 12:30 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  

(09-11-2025 11:54 AM)TripleA Wrote:  I hope there is someone who can stand up and take Charlie's place, and keep TPUSA going effectively. What he was doing might be the most important political movement needed in our country right now.

This has been difficult to see play out. Charlie was a good dude and he did the one thing the left won't authentically do. Talk, discuss, debate, and disagree. Until yesterday, he showed that's ok and is fundamental to our founding as a free nation. But most importantly he did so in such an authentic way, he didn't demean people. He didn't call them stupid or other names when he disagreed. He simply listened, engaged, and responded with civility and grace.

The lies, gaslighting, and manipulation from the left is utterly disgusting calling his movement hate just like that MT dean. How has this country gone that far adrift?

To your point, something my significant other said last night is that he's built such a massive following and discipleship that there are going to be a bunch of people emerge from this and do more than he ever could have on his own.

I watched a little of Blaze Tonight last night and they had Steve Deace on. Another prominent Christian conservative voice. He said that this is not only spiritual warfare brought to the forefront, but that anytime the (spiritual) enemy is backed into a corner or has its back against the wall, it takes out the leader(s) of those fighting for good, because it knows it's losing its grip. Well, the enemy took out Charlie Kirk because it knows its losing its grip on America's youth. Deace also acknowledged the massive void left by Charlie's assassination, but he's confident many will rise up and continue what Charlie started.

(09-11-2025 12:36 PM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  

(09-11-2025 12:33 PM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  

(09-11-2025 12:28 PM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  

(09-11-2025 12:23 PM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  

(09-11-2025 12:15 PM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  people who claim to be Christian should be advocating for things that Jesus called people to do. Which unironically isn't what is most often thrown around this board.

But hold on, if you’re going to use the Bible to justify your political beliefs as well, then why are you cherry picking only one part and not adhering to it all as well?

Aren’t we supposed to rule as secularists? That’s what the left wants.

I want an answer to this. Don’t ignore

whats your question?

1. Why do non Christians quote the Bible to show hypocrisy when it comes to political issues, yet deny everything else? I dunno, does it take away from Christians hypocrisy when a non Christian quotes them the teachings of who they purportedly follow?
2. Why do christians have to adhere to the Bible for political purposes, when the left doesn’t at all, and prefer us all to govern as secularists (separation of church and state) why wouldnt Christian adhere to the bible for political purposes? Did Jesus say, "follow me unless the other guy doesn't then screw it go nuclear?" separation of church and state is not incongruent with the teachings of the bible, and in fact its widely considered that Jesus himself advocated for it.

Please answer these two questions. Thank you for your attention to this matter.

(09-11-2025 12:37 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  

(09-11-2025 12:30 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  

(09-11-2025 11:54 AM)TripleA Wrote:  I hope there is someone who can stand up and take Charlie's place, and keep TPUSA going effectively. What he was doing might be the most important political movement needed in our country right now.

This has been difficult to see play out. Charlie was a good dude and he did the one thing the left won't authentically do. Talk, discuss, debate, and disagree. Until yesterday, he showed that's ok and is fundamental to our founding as a free nation. But most importantly he did so in such an authentic way, he didn't demean people. He didn't call them stupid or other names when he disagreed. He simply listened, engaged, and responded with civility and grace.

The lies, gaslighting, and manipulation from the left is utterly disgusting calling his movement hate just like that MT dean. How has this country gone that far adrift?

To your point, something my significant other said last night is that he's built such a massive following and discipleship that there are going to be a bunch of people emerge from this and do more than he ever could have on his own.

I watched a little of Blaze Tonight last night and they had Steve Deace on. Another prominent Christian conservative voice. He said that this is not only spiritual warfare brought to the forefront, but that anytime the (spiritual) enemy is backed into a corner or has its back against the wall, it takes out the leader(s) of those fighting for good, because it knows it's losing its grip. Well, the enemy took out Charlie Kirk because it knows its losing its grip on America's youth. Deace also acknowledged the massive void left by Charlie's assassination, but he's confident many will rise up and continue what Charlie started.

To prove that point, the left was just lamenting a week or two ago that they needed their own Charlie Kirk.

(09-11-2025 12:42 PM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  I dunno, does it take away from Christians hypocrisy when a non Christian quotes them the teachings of who they purportedly follow?

Are you going to actually point out specific posters and specific examples of when self proclaimed Bible believing Christians here are being these massive hypocrites?

Can you do that or are just making more crap up out of thin air and can't back up a word you are saying.

And I hate to burst this childishly dishonest view you have on Christianity but if Christians were perfect and without sin, we would never have any need of Jesus. That kinda the WHOLE POINT of Jesus and the Gospel, because we can't live perfect sinless lives. Thats why He died for our sins.

(09-11-2025 12:42 PM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  

(09-11-2025 12:36 PM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  

(09-11-2025 12:33 PM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  

(09-11-2025 12:28 PM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  

(09-11-2025 12:23 PM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  But hold on, if you’re going to use the Bible to justify your political beliefs as well, then why are you cherry picking only one part and not adhering to it all as well?

Aren’t we supposed to rule as secularists? That’s what the left wants.

I want an answer to this. Don’t ignore

whats your question?

1. Why do non Christians quote the Bible to show hypocrisy when it comes to political issues, yet deny everything else? I dunno, does it take away from Christians hypocrisy when a non Christian quotes them the teachings of who they purportedly follow?
2. Why do christians have to adhere to the Bible for political purposes, when the left doesn’t at all, and prefer us all to govern as secularists (separation of church and state) why wouldnt Christian adhere to the bible for political purposes? Did Jesus say, "follow me unless the other guy doesn't then screw it go nuclear?" separation of church and state is not incongruent with the teachings of the bible, and in fact its widely considered that Jesus himself advocated for it.

Please answer these two questions. Thank you for your attention to this matter.

So to recap, you use parts of the Bible to justify your political views, yet reject the Bible and Christian ethics as a whole, and prefer Christians to rule as secularists.

Do I have this correct?

(09-11-2025 12:32 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  Its the ultimate irony becuase when we preach repentance and salvation through Jesus to the lost, we get called nazis, extremists and haters who force our beliefs on others,

Then we have clowns like this come here and say we don't love sinners.

EXPECTED

FIFY

(09-11-2025 12:42 PM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  1. Why do non Christians quote the Bible to show hypocrisy when it comes to political issues, yet deny everything else? I dunno, does it take away from Christians hypocrisy when a non Christian quotes them the teachings of who they purportedly follow?
2. Why do christians have to adhere to the Bible for political purposes, when the left doesn’t at all, and prefer us all to govern as secularists (separation of church and state) why wouldnt Christian adhere to the bible for political purposes? Did Jesus say, "follow me unless the other guy doesn't then screw it go nuclear?" separation of church and state is not incongruent with the teachings of the bible, and in fact its widely considered that Jesus himself advocated for it.

Please answer these two questions. Thank you for your attention to this matter.

Answers 2 questions with 3 questions, one of them starting w/ "I dunno".
That's pretty weak.

(09-11-2025 12:42 PM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  

(09-11-2025 12:36 PM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  

(09-11-2025 12:33 PM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  

(09-11-2025 12:28 PM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  

(09-11-2025 12:23 PM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  But hold on, if you’re going to use the Bible to justify your political beliefs as well, then why are you cherry picking only one part and not adhering to it all as well?

Aren’t we supposed to rule as secularists? That’s what the left wants.

I want an answer to this. Don’t ignore

whats your question?

1. Why do non Christians quote the Bible to show hypocrisy when it comes to political issues, yet deny everything else? I dunno, does it take away from Christians hypocrisy when a non Christian quotes them the teachings of who they purportedly follow?
2. Why do christians have to adhere to the Bible for political purposes, when the left doesn’t at all, and prefer us all to govern as secularists (separation of church and state) why wouldnt Christian adhere to the bible for political purposes? Did Jesus say, "follow me unless the other guy doesn't then screw it go nuclear?" separation of church and state is not incongruent with the teachings of the bible, and in fact its widely considered that Jesus himself advocated for it.

Please answer these two questions. Thank you for your attention to this matter.

I'm not a Christian and follow Jesus because I'm perfect. I do so, because I'm not. But I also do my best to follow his teachings even though I recognize I fail at times along the way to hold myself up to that standard.

If I've demonstrated any hypocrisy here please highlight. God Bless.

(09-11-2025 11:05 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(09-11-2025 10:53 AM)Redbanksdog Wrote:  

(09-11-2025 10:31 AM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  

(09-11-2025 10:10 AM)No Bull Wrote:  

(09-11-2025 10:05 AM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  We all are supposed to put him on ignore. I’m doing that right now.

I just put him on ignore. The mods should ban him though

I don't understand why they don't.

I agree also, ever since last November Tom's been mostly a Troll around here. Isn't that a bannable offense? He's basely in here mocking the death of Charlie Kirk.

I'm all for the normal level of trolling and flaming, it's like 1/2 the fun of message boards. His reactions in this thread ain't that.

This is actually pretty ridiculous.

I made one comment that many took as out of bounds about 1 minute after this news broke...and right after the usual happening around here of posters jumping to conclusions with no basis for them other than feels. That comment was removed by someone.

My last post yesterday was on the first page at 3:13. Then I didn't come back here until this morning, when the thread was like up to 12, 40-post pages. Today my responses have mostly been answering posters who were commenting about me and about how Godless I am, etc.

I haven't made one post in this entire thread that was in anyway negative toward Kirk, not one.

Now, have I praised his life or him or publicly mourned for him, no, but since when it that some requirement here? And I literally knew next to nothing about the man. I don't follow his type...the young social media influencer type.

Also, have I praised his shooting? Celebrated it? Cheered for the shooter? Nope, none of that.

Again, not something I normally do around here anyway, never have. Like many, I've actually become quite numb to these shootings.

All I basically did from the jump was to ask for those immediately trying to condemn a movement or an ideology, to wait until we actually knew the shooter or the motive. Again, like I normally do.

Yes, I am incredibly sad for kids and family who won't have their father and husband and son. I'm also sad for this country. We're incredibly broken and need a leader to unite us. Sadly, there isn't one.

Ignore you-know-who everyone. He is fishing hard for someone to talk to him.