(09-04-2025 10:31 PM)TheOwl84 Wrote:  

(09-04-2025 08:57 PM)Ourland Wrote:  If anything, wear the space uniforms every year. Those were much nicer than these Oiler rags, and they were an original look. No one gives a damn about the Oilers anymore. Let it go.

The 2022 space uniforms were given to the team so not possible to get those back. But I imagine once we're with Nike we'll get new space uniforms, and probably new baby blue uniforms since they're so popular. Nike's best uniforms are their alternates.

More than it being about the Oilers its about the claim of that baby blue as a Houston color. The Rockets wear the color, all UH teams wear the color, even the Texans have added a candy blue to one of their uniforms. Nobody may care about the Oilers but the Houston outrage over the Titans wearing the Oiler throwbacks made a whole lot of people care about reclaiming that blue. The buzz these uniforms generate every time we announce them are the proof of that.

It's hard for me to believe that they're popular. It's not an original look, and UH jumped the line and beat us to them. We shouldn't be doing anything that appears to follow UH.

A space uniform would be much more appropriate, given Kennedy's speech, and the fact that we're known as the "Space City."

In a nutshell, I don't like the fact that we're just following a trend, and feeding the Adams family's massive ego over the old Oilers uniforms, particularly when there is a much better alternative that's unique to Rice's history.

The space uniforms we're much nicer. I'd rather we stick with Rice gear until we can get them back, rather than rolling out every year in a tired Oilers uniform that every other sports franchise in the city pimps with regularity.

(09-05-2025 08:09 AM)UHfan Wrote:  

(09-05-2025 07:47 AM)ArmChairOwl Wrote:  

(09-05-2025 07:33 AM)UHfan Wrote:  

(09-05-2025 07:26 AM)owl at the moon Wrote:  

(09-05-2025 12:45 AM)Almadenmike Wrote:  Yep. Tom Herman ... mid-2010s:

https://www.fox26houston.com/sports/west...-americans

And speaking of Tom Herman, I’ll remind the UH fans that “we had him first”

Same with Major Applewhite.

It’s time for an #HTownTakeover-Takeover!

You were focused on “We thought of it first”. And then used a slogan that UH had first. I thought it was ironic. And UH got the best out of Herman. Applewhite, we would probably like to forget those seasons.

Well, we've never had to use the "Academic Cornerstone" slogan because it is already understood. And perhaps UH's ability to recruit whoever they want for athletics was instrumental in Herman's success there. Rice can't do that, so we have to focus on unique systems that will fit the student-athlete we're able to recruit. I think we have finally done that this year in football, but we are not naive and thus realize it will take awhile for the system to take hold. Hopefully Rice will pull off the upset on Saturday, but there is a reason UH is a double-digit favorite. Best of luck to both teams!

Well, Herman won with Tony Levine’s recruits. He was just a better coach. Be safe and good luck on Saturday.

That's great that Herman won with Tony Levine's recruits, but that doesn't contradict the fact that UH can recruit whoever they want. But I agree, here's to a safe, injury free game Saturday.

(09-05-2025 08:45 AM)Ourland Wrote:  

(09-04-2025 10:31 PM)TheOwl84 Wrote:  

(09-04-2025 08:57 PM)Ourland Wrote:  If anything, wear the space uniforms every year. Those were much nicer than these Oiler rags, and they were an original look. No one gives a damn about the Oilers anymore. Let it go.

The 2022 space uniforms were given to the team so not possible to get those back. But I imagine once we're with Nike we'll get new space uniforms, and probably new baby blue uniforms since they're so popular. Nike's best uniforms are their alternates.

More than it being about the Oilers its about the claim of that baby blue as a Houston color. The Rockets wear the color, all UH teams wear the color, even the Texans have added a candy blue to one of their uniforms. Nobody may care about the Oilers but the Houston outrage over the Titans wearing the Oiler throwbacks made a whole lot of people care about reclaiming that blue. The buzz these uniforms generate every time we announce them are the proof of that.

It's hard for me to believe that they're popular. It's not an original look, and UH jumped the line and beat us to them. We shouldn't be doing anything that appears to follow UH.

A space uniform would be much more appropriate, given Kennedy's speech, and the fact that we're known as the "Space City."

In a nutshell, I don't like the fact that we're just following a trend, and feeding the Adams family's massive ego over the old Oilers uniforms, particularly when there is a much better alternative that's unique to Rice's history.

The space uniforms we're much nicer. I'd rather we stick with Rice gear until we can get them back, rather than rolling out every year in a tired Oilers uniform that every other sports franchise in the city pimps with regularity.

I think we're making way too much on this uniform thing.

Whether your opinion makes it hard for you to believe that the powder blue uniforms are popular (I, for one, like them as a one game per year different look).

Whether your opinion is that they look like crap and that we will play like crap (heck, maybe we will play like crap tomorrow, I sure hope not).

Whether your opinion is that another uniform is more appropriate.

Whether your opinion is that another uniform is nicer.

The fact is that there is history of Rice success wearing the powder blue:

In 2023 Rice wore the powder blue vs. E. Caro. and won 24-17.

Last year Rice wore the powder blue vs. UTSA and won 29-27.

I doubt that it is causal on that, but I like the history.

AFAIAC, Rice can wear tutus as long as they win. This is not a contest for best dressed loser.

(09-05-2025 09:31 AM)ArmChairOwl Wrote:  

(09-05-2025 08:45 AM)Ourland Wrote:  

(09-04-2025 10:31 PM)TheOwl84 Wrote:  

(09-04-2025 08:57 PM)Ourland Wrote:  If anything, wear the space uniforms every year. Those were much nicer than these Oiler rags, and they were an original look. No one gives a damn about the Oilers anymore. Let it go.

The 2022 space uniforms were given to the team so not possible to get those back. But I imagine once we're with Nike we'll get new space uniforms, and probably new baby blue uniforms since they're so popular. Nike's best uniforms are their alternates.

More than it being about the Oilers its about the claim of that baby blue as a Houston color. The Rockets wear the color, all UH teams wear the color, even the Texans have added a candy blue to one of their uniforms. Nobody may care about the Oilers but the Houston outrage over the Titans wearing the Oiler throwbacks made a whole lot of people care about reclaiming that blue. The buzz these uniforms generate every time we announce them are the proof of that.

It's hard for me to believe that they're popular. It's not an original look, and UH jumped the line and beat us to them. We shouldn't be doing anything that appears to follow UH.

A space uniform would be much more appropriate, given Kennedy's speech, and the fact that we're known as the "Space City."

In a nutshell, I don't like the fact that we're just following a trend, and feeding the Adams family's massive ego over the old Oilers uniforms, particularly when there is a much better alternative that's unique to Rice's history.

The space uniforms we're much nicer. I'd rather we stick with Rice gear until we can get them back, rather than rolling out every year in a tired Oilers uniform that every other sports franchise in the city pimps with regularity.

I think we're making way too much on this uniform thing.

Whether your opinion makes it hard for you to believe that the powder blue uniforms are popular (I, for one, like them as a one game per year different look).

Whether your opinion is that they look like crap and that we will play like crap (heck, maybe we will play like crap tomorrow, I sure hope not).

Whether your opinion is that another uniform is more appropriate.

Whether your opinion is that another uniform is nicer.

The fact is that there is history of Rice success wearing the powder blue:

In 2023 Rice wore the powder blue vs. E. Caro. and won 24-17.

Last year Rice wore the powder blue vs. UTSA and won 29-27.

I doubt that it is causal on that, but I like the history.

LOL. There's no such thing as "making way too much" of a uniform. Uniforms are a consistent topic here. This is a message board. Uniforms are entirely fair game.

At the end of the day, I don't care what we wear, as long as we win, but I would rather to see it happen in traditional Rice gear, as opposed to a constantly regurgitated Oilers look, particularly against UH.

(09-05-2025 09:47 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  AFAIAC, Rice can wear tutus as long as they win. This is not a contest for best dressed loser.

Let’s make sure they’re powder blue tutus please

(09-05-2025 09:22 AM)ArmChairOwl Wrote:  

(09-05-2025 08:09 AM)UHfan Wrote:  

(09-05-2025 07:47 AM)ArmChairOwl Wrote:  

(09-05-2025 07:33 AM)UHfan Wrote:  

(09-05-2025 07:26 AM)owl at the moon Wrote:  And speaking of Tom Herman, I’ll remind the UH fans that “we had him first”

Same with Major Applewhite.

It’s time for an #HTownTakeover-Takeover!

You were focused on “We thought of it first”. And then used a slogan that UH had first. I thought it was ironic. And UH got the best out of Herman. Applewhite, we would probably like to forget those seasons.

Well, we've never had to use the "Academic Cornerstone" slogan because it is already understood. And perhaps UH's ability to recruit whoever they want for athletics was instrumental in Herman's success there. Rice can't do that, so we have to focus on unique systems that will fit the student-athlete we're able to recruit. I think we have finally done that this year in football, but we are not naive and thus realize it will take awhile for the system to take hold. Hopefully Rice will pull off the upset on Saturday, but there is a reason UH is a double-digit favorite. Best of luck to both teams!

Well, Herman won with Tony Levine’s recruits. He was just a better coach. Be safe and good luck on Saturday.

That's great that Herman won with Tony Levine's recruits, but that doesn't contradict the fact that UH can recruit whoever they want. But I agree, here's to a safe, injury free game Saturday.

Well my point was about the Htown takeover and who did what first with the other owl fan before you shifted the convo but, yes, I’m well aware of the prestige of the school and what that can do for the football program. Although, I had high school teammates who played baseball there under Wayne Graham and they definitely went there for baseball and not because they were smart. So, I wonder if baseball had a different standard back then.

(09-05-2025 07:33 AM)UHfan Wrote:  

(09-05-2025 07:26 AM)owl at the moon Wrote:  

(09-05-2025 12:45 AM)Almadenmike Wrote:  

(09-04-2025 11:03 PM)UHfan Wrote:  

(09-04-2025 06:43 PM)owl at the moon Wrote:  All that, plus they are a HTown Takeover Thing
We thought of it first and got permission.

UH just jumped the shark and wore theirs first without asking anyone in the NFL or the Oilers.

I think it’s flippin awesome. Luv ya Blue and Gray.

Wasn’t the “Htown Takeover” a UH slogan?

Yep. Tom Herman ... mid-2010s:

https://www.fox26houston.com/sports/west...-americans

And speaking of Tom Herman, I’ll remind the UH fans that “we had him first”

Same with Major Applewhite.

It’s time for an #HTownTakeover-Takeover!

You were focused on “We thought of it first”. And then used a slogan that UH had first. I thought it was ironic. And UH got the best out of Herman. Applewhite, we would probably like to forget those seasons.

Fair enough!

Looking for Awe #0 to spear Dean Connors into the turf.

As an aside, UH has never played on our weird 'pivot' turf before.

(09-05-2025 10:42 AM)UHfan Wrote:  

(09-05-2025 09:22 AM)ArmChairOwl Wrote:  

(09-05-2025 08:09 AM)UHfan Wrote:  

(09-05-2025 07:47 AM)ArmChairOwl Wrote:  

(09-05-2025 07:33 AM)UHfan Wrote:  You were focused on “We thought of it first”. And then used a slogan that UH had first. I thought it was ironic. And UH got the best out of Herman. Applewhite, we would probably like to forget those seasons.

Well, we've never had to use the "Academic Cornerstone" slogan because it is already understood. And perhaps UH's ability to recruit whoever they want for athletics was instrumental in Herman's success there. Rice can't do that, so we have to focus on unique systems that will fit the student-athlete we're able to recruit. I think we have finally done that this year in football, but we are not naive and thus realize it will take awhile for the system to take hold. Hopefully Rice will pull off the upset on Saturday, but there is a reason UH is a double-digit favorite. Best of luck to both teams!

Well, Herman won with Tony Levine’s recruits. He was just a better coach. Be safe and good luck on Saturday.

That's great that Herman won with Tony Levine's recruits, but that doesn't contradict the fact that UH can recruit whoever they want. But I agree, here's to a safe, injury free game Saturday.

Well my point was about the Htown takeover and who did what first with the other owl fan before you shifted the convo but, yes, I’m well aware of the prestige of the school and what that can do for the football program. Although, I had high school teammates who played baseball there under Wayne Graham and they definitely went there for baseball and not because they were smart. So, I wonder if baseball had a different standard back then.

Berkman said he majored in eligibility during his playing days at Rice, although I believe he finally did get his degree.

The OG also referred to Berkman as the "dumbest smart kid" he'd ever met.

Both are Rice treasures!

(09-05-2025 10:20 AM)Ourland Wrote:  

(09-05-2025 09:31 AM)ArmChairOwl Wrote:  

(09-05-2025 08:45 AM)Ourland Wrote:  

(09-04-2025 10:31 PM)TheOwl84 Wrote:  

(09-04-2025 08:57 PM)Ourland Wrote:  If anything, wear the space uniforms every year. Those were much nicer than these Oiler rags, and they were an original look. No one gives a damn about the Oilers anymore. Let it go.

The 2022 space uniforms were given to the team so not possible to get those back. But I imagine once we're with Nike we'll get new space uniforms, and probably new baby blue uniforms since they're so popular. Nike's best uniforms are their alternates.

More than it being about the Oilers its about the claim of that baby blue as a Houston color. The Rockets wear the color, all UH teams wear the color, even the Texans have added a candy blue to one of their uniforms. Nobody may care about the Oilers but the Houston outrage over the Titans wearing the Oiler throwbacks made a whole lot of people care about reclaiming that blue. The buzz these uniforms generate every time we announce them are the proof of that.

It's hard for me to believe that they're popular. It's not an original look, and UH jumped the line and beat us to them. We shouldn't be doing anything that appears to follow UH.

A space uniform would be much more appropriate, given Kennedy's speech, and the fact that we're known as the "Space City."

In a nutshell, I don't like the fact that we're just following a trend, and feeding the Adams family's massive ego over the old Oilers uniforms, particularly when there is a much better alternative that's unique to Rice's history.

The space uniforms we're much nicer. I'd rather we stick with Rice gear until we can get them back, rather than rolling out every year in a tired Oilers uniform that every other sports franchise in the city pimps with regularity.

I think we're making way too much on this uniform thing.

Whether your opinion makes it hard for you to believe that the powder blue uniforms are popular (I, for one, like them as a one game per year different look).

Whether your opinion is that they look like crap and that we will play like crap (heck, maybe we will play like crap tomorrow, I sure hope not).

Whether your opinion is that another uniform is more appropriate.

Whether your opinion is that another uniform is nicer.

The fact is that there is history of Rice success wearing the powder blue:

In 2023 Rice wore the powder blue vs. E. Caro. and won 24-17.

Last year Rice wore the powder blue vs. UTSA and won 29-27.

I doubt that it is causal on that, but I like the history.

LOL. There's no such thing as "making way too much" of a uniform. Uniforms are a consistent topic here. This is a message board. Uniforms are entirely fair game.

At the end of the day, I don't care what we wear, as long as we win, but I would rather to see it happen in traditional Rice gear, as opposed to a constantly regurgitated Oilers look, particularly against UH.

Good grief yes, uniforms are entirely fair game on this board, which is why I stated a counter-opinion to yours regarding...Uniforms!

You, yourself stated: "I don't care what we wear, as long as we win." Well, do you know what? The last two times we wore the powder blue, we won! So why the complaints?

(09-05-2025 10:42 AM)UHfan Wrote:  

(09-05-2025 09:22 AM)ArmChairOwl Wrote:  

(09-05-2025 08:09 AM)UHfan Wrote:  

(09-05-2025 07:47 AM)ArmChairOwl Wrote:  

(09-05-2025 07:33 AM)UHfan Wrote:  You were focused on “We thought of it first”. And then used a slogan that UH had first. I thought it was ironic. And UH got the best out of Herman. Applewhite, we would probably like to forget those seasons.

Well, we've never had to use the "Academic Cornerstone" slogan because it is already understood. And perhaps UH's ability to recruit whoever they want for athletics was instrumental in Herman's success there. Rice can't do that, so we have to focus on unique systems that will fit the student-athlete we're able to recruit. I think we have finally done that this year in football, but we are not naive and thus realize it will take awhile for the system to take hold. Hopefully Rice will pull off the upset on Saturday, but there is a reason UH is a double-digit favorite. Best of luck to both teams!

Well, Herman won with Tony Levine’s recruits. He was just a better coach. Be safe and good luck on Saturday.

That's great that Herman won with Tony Levine's recruits, but that doesn't contradict the fact that UH can recruit whoever they want. But I agree, here's to a safe, injury free game Saturday.

Well my point was about the Htown takeover and who did what first with the other owl fan before you shifted the convo but, yes, I’m well aware of the prestige of the school and what that can do for the football program. Although, I had high school teammates who played baseball there under Wayne Graham and they definitely went there for baseball and not because they were smart. So, I wonder if baseball had a different standard back then.

Ah, well, easy to pull out the ole "I had high school teammates..." argument. Can't argue with that! I had high school teammates, too, who went to U.T., and some friends who went to UH. Also TCU. Several of those simply could not believe that athletes at Rice actually had to go to class. It just floored them. And yes, when I played for Rice back in the day, there were indeed students associated with the athletic department who sat in classes with a checklist, checking our names off showing that we were attending class. Not sure whether they still do that now. But they really didn't have to do it back then because we went to class regardless, but the administration wanted to make sure! This was in the 80s.

(09-05-2025 11:04 AM)OwlWKIF Wrote:  Looking for Awe #0 to spear Dean Connors into the turf.

As an aside, UH has never played on our weird 'pivot' turf before.

Speaking of the former #0 Owl, now #44 Cougar, the Chronicle had a Joseph Duarte story yesterday on the first player to play for both schools. One quote, “Connors, who is close to completing his degree requirements at Rice”, has stuck with me. Is Connors working on a degree plan at UH, or taking classes that might transfer back to Rice?” Or am I making too much of this quote? What is his student status at UH, and does he intend to return to Rice to finish his degree once his playing eligibility is used up?

(09-05-2025 12:26 PM)ESE84 Wrote:  

(09-05-2025 11:04 AM)OwlWKIF Wrote:  Looking for Awe #0 to spear Dean Connors into the turf.

As an aside, UH has never played on our weird 'pivot' turf before.

Speaking of the former #0 Owl, now #44 Cougar, the Chronicle had a Joseph Duarte story yesterday on the first player to play for both schools. One quote, “Connors, who is close to completing his degree requirements at Rice”, has stuck with me. Is Connors working on a degree plan at UH, or taking classes that might transfer back to Rice?” Or am I making too much of this quote? What is his student status at UH, and does he intend to return to Rice to finish his degree once his playing eligibility is used up?

I graduated 8 years ago now, but when I was a student, you credit transfer hours toward your Rice degree, even on the backend.

My degree had a 120 credit hour requirement, and I had finished 118 as of the end of my senior year's fall semester. I didn't want to spend the $ to come back to Rice for another semester, and the 2 hours I needed weren't for any specific major requirement - just general distribution requirements. I took a 3 credit hour community college class online (and did some world travel - as I had never done a semester abroad during college) that spring and transferred it into Rice, walking with my friends in May.

Could be that Connors is doing something similar.

(09-05-2025 12:36 PM)ExcitedOwl18 Wrote:  

(09-05-2025 12:26 PM)ESE84 Wrote:  

(09-05-2025 11:04 AM)OwlWKIF Wrote:  Looking for Awe #0 to spear Dean Connors into the turf.

As an aside, UH has never played on our weird 'pivot' turf before.

Speaking of the former #0 Owl, now #44 Cougar, the Chronicle had a Joseph Duarte story yesterday on the first player to play for both schools. One quote, “Connors, who is close to completing his degree requirements at Rice”, has stuck with me. Is Connors working on a degree plan at UH, or taking classes that might transfer back to Rice?” Or am I making too much of this quote? What is his student status at UH, and does he intend to return to Rice to finish his degree once his playing eligibility is used up?

I graduated 8 years ago now, but when I was a student, you credit transfer hours toward your Rice degree, even on the backend.

My degree had a 120 credit hour requirement, and I had finished 118 as of the end of my senior year's fall semester. I didn't want to spend the $ to come back to Rice for another semester, and the 2 hours I needed weren't for any specific major requirement - just general distribution requirements. I took a 3 credit hour community college class online (and did some world travel - as I had never done a semester abroad during college) that spring and transferred it into Rice, walking with my friends in May.

Could be that Connors is doing something similar.

I also took one class at UH, while I was a Rice student, that counted toward my Rice degree requirements.

(09-05-2025 11:55 AM)ArmChairOwl Wrote:  

(09-05-2025 10:42 AM)UHfan Wrote:  

(09-05-2025 09:22 AM)ArmChairOwl Wrote:  

(09-05-2025 08:09 AM)UHfan Wrote:  

(09-05-2025 07:47 AM)ArmChairOwl Wrote:  Well, we've never had to use the "Academic Cornerstone" slogan because it is already understood. And perhaps UH's ability to recruit whoever they want for athletics was instrumental in Herman's success there. Rice can't do that, so we have to focus on unique systems that will fit the student-athlete we're able to recruit. I think we have finally done that this year in football, but we are not naive and thus realize it will take awhile for the system to take hold. Hopefully Rice will pull off the upset on Saturday, but there is a reason UH is a double-digit favorite. Best of luck to both teams!

Well, Herman won with Tony Levine’s recruits. He was just a better coach. Be safe and good luck on Saturday.

That's great that Herman won with Tony Levine's recruits, but that doesn't contradict the fact that UH can recruit whoever they want. But I agree, here's to a safe, injury free game Saturday.

Well my point was about the Htown takeover and who did what first with the other owl fan before you shifted the convo but, yes, I’m well aware of the prestige of the school and what that can do for the football program. Although, I had high school teammates who played baseball there under Wayne Graham and they definitely went there for baseball and not because they were smart. So, I wonder if baseball had a different standard back then.

Ah, well, easy to pull out the ole "I had high school teammates..." argument. Can't argue with that! I had high school teammates, too, who went to U.T., and some friends who went to UH. Also TCU. Several of those simply could not believe that athletes at Rice actually had to go to class. It just floored them. And yes, when I played for Rice back in the day, there were indeed students associated with the athletic department who sat in classes with a checklist, checking our names off showing that we were attending class. Not sure whether they still do that now. But they really didn't have to do it back then because we went to class regardless, but the administration wanted to make sure! This was in the 80s.

I didn’t say that they didn’t have to go to class, just that they got into the school for their baseball talent as opposed to the regular rice student. This was the early 2000’s.

(09-05-2025 11:04 AM)OwlWKIF Wrote:  Looking for Awe #0 to spear Dean Connors into the turf.

As an aside, UH has never played on our weird 'pivot' turf before.

Speaking of Connors, our RB1, ReShaun Sanford, is now out for the season, so he came over just in time for us.

(09-05-2025 12:43 PM)UHfan Wrote:  

(09-05-2025 11:55 AM)ArmChairOwl Wrote:  

(09-05-2025 10:42 AM)UHfan Wrote:  

(09-05-2025 09:22 AM)ArmChairOwl Wrote:  

(09-05-2025 08:09 AM)UHfan Wrote:  Well, Herman won with Tony Levine’s recruits. He was just a better coach. Be safe and good luck on Saturday.

That's great that Herman won with Tony Levine's recruits, but that doesn't contradict the fact that UH can recruit whoever they want. But I agree, here's to a safe, injury free game Saturday.

Well my point was about the Htown takeover and who did what first with the other owl fan before you shifted the convo but, yes, I’m well aware of the prestige of the school and what that can do for the football program. Although, I had high school teammates who played baseball there under Wayne Graham and they definitely went there for baseball and not because they were smart. So, I wonder if baseball had a different standard back then.

Ah, well, easy to pull out the ole "I had high school teammates..." argument. Can't argue with that! I had high school teammates, too, who went to U.T., and some friends who went to UH. Also TCU. Several of those simply could not believe that athletes at Rice actually had to go to class. It just floored them. And yes, when I played for Rice back in the day, there were indeed students associated with the athletic department who sat in classes with a checklist, checking our names off showing that we were attending class. Not sure whether they still do that now. But they really didn't have to do it back then because we went to class regardless, but the administration wanted to make sure! This was in the 80s.

I didn’t say that they didn’t have to go to class, just that they got into the school for their baseball talent as opposed to the regular rice student. This was the early 2000’s.

Definitely true - and we've had multiple former Rice football players do hard prison time in recent years (last ten years) so I dislike the "holier than thou attitude."

Do I think the median Rice athlete has a higher level of academic achievement than the median UH athlete? Yes. Do I think that the median Rice athlete has similar grades/test scores to the median Rice NARP? No.

This is way OT but as the Rice-UH series may be ending, it is interesting to note that Kansas and Mizzou play tomorrow for the first time since Missouri left the Big 12 for the SEC in 2011.

Tomorrow's game will be in 122nd game in the series. At the time it happened very few people in Kansas could believe that it was the end of the series. Time will tell..

(09-05-2025 12:54 PM)ExcitedOwl18 Wrote:  

(09-05-2025 12:43 PM)UHfan Wrote:  

(09-05-2025 11:55 AM)ArmChairOwl Wrote:  

(09-05-2025 10:42 AM)UHfan Wrote:  

(09-05-2025 09:22 AM)ArmChairOwl Wrote:  That's great that Herman won with Tony Levine's recruits, but that doesn't contradict the fact that UH can recruit whoever they want. But I agree, here's to a safe, injury free game Saturday.

Well my point was about the Htown takeover and who did what first with the other owl fan before you shifted the convo but, yes, I’m well aware of the prestige of the school and what that can do for the football program. Although, I had high school teammates who played baseball there under Wayne Graham and they definitely went there for baseball and not because they were smart. So, I wonder if baseball had a different standard back then.

Ah, well, easy to pull out the ole "I had high school teammates..." argument. Can't argue with that! I had high school teammates, too, who went to U.T., and some friends who went to UH. Also TCU. Several of those simply could not believe that athletes at Rice actually had to go to class. It just floored them. And yes, when I played for Rice back in the day, there were indeed students associated with the athletic department who sat in classes with a checklist, checking our names off showing that we were attending class. Not sure whether they still do that now. But they really didn't have to do it back then because we went to class regardless, but the administration wanted to make sure! This was in the 80s.

I didn’t say that they didn’t have to go to class, just that they got into the school for their baseball talent as opposed to the regular rice student. This was the early 2000’s.

Definitely true - and we've had multiple former Rice football players do hard prison time in recent years (last ten years) so I dislike the "holier than thou attitude."

Do I think the median Rice athlete has a higher level of academic achievement than the median UH athlete? Yes. Do I think that the median Rice athlete has similar grades/test scores to the median Rice NARP? No.

+1

Never understood and appreciated the “holier than thou” attitude of some Rice fans. I have family and friends that attended UH, UT, TAMU, etc. They are all fine, successful people. All schools have their good and bad actors, Rice included.

I believe some of that attitude begins with the ever increasing difficulty of getting into Rice. I graduated magna *** laude with a chemical engineering degree, but doubt I could get into Rice these days. Not sure I’d want to go to school only with folks who had perfect SAT scores. I knew a few of those while I was in school. They weren’t very interesting.

JMO