(08-24-2025 09:26 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(08-24-2025 09:20 PM)bobdizole Wrote:  

(08-24-2025 09:10 PM)fsquid Wrote:  

(08-24-2025 09:08 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(08-24-2025 08:46 PM)shere khan Wrote:  Maybe a genius move. Ive heard more about cracker b in the last week than in 20 years.

Rage marketing

Lol

I was thinking about that. I think not. The move is going to piss off a decent percentage of regular customers. I'm one. I go for the style of food and because the decor reminds me of my grandparents, who were born in the 1800s.

The food has slowly gotten worse over the years (never was great but was the right kind of things)

How many current non-customers do you think it will attract to make up for that loss? I say not many. Maybe zero.

that's the thing though, they are a public company with no revenue growth in 5 years. So the regular customers aren't going to please the board.

This. The company was dieing, the current customer base never really came back after covid. They either had to do something drastic to revitalize the brand or limped along until they filed bankruptcy.

Dying unless the were doing metal fabrication

Yeah they may have just killed a sick patient

Thank's for the spelling correction. They very well might have. I honestly don't get the outrage. Tranny selling budlight, I get that one. Target selling tranny clothes, 100% get that one. But all CB has done is update their logo and get rid of the **** off of their walls. One of the remodeled ones is in our town and it honestly looks so much better. Maybe because it looks like they actually cleaned the place when they remodeled. Real talk, it's a crappy restaurant in the first place. They got a decent breakfast, but there are so many better places to eat at. The only thing they really have going for them in their real estate. They are right off the interstate and usually surrounded by hotels.

(08-24-2025 09:38 PM)bobdizole Wrote:  

(08-24-2025 09:26 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(08-24-2025 09:20 PM)bobdizole Wrote:  

(08-24-2025 09:10 PM)fsquid Wrote:  

(08-24-2025 09:08 PM)TripleA Wrote:  I was thinking about that. I think not. The move is going to piss off a decent percentage of regular customers. I'm one. I go for the style of food and because the decor reminds me of my grandparents, who were born in the 1800s.

The food has slowly gotten worse over the years (never was great but was the right kind of things)

How many current non-customers do you think it will attract to make up for that loss? I say not many. Maybe zero.

that's the thing though, they are a public company with no revenue growth in 5 years. So the regular customers aren't going to please the board.

This. The company was dieing, the current customer base never really came back after covid. They either had to do something drastic to revitalize the brand or limped along until they filed bankruptcy.

Dying unless the were doing metal fabrication

Yeah they may have just killed a sick patient

Thank's for the spelling correction. They very well might have. I honestly don't get the outrage. Tranny selling budlight, I get that one. Target selling tranny clothes, 100% get that one. But all CB has done is update their logo and get rid of the **** off of their walls. One of the remodeled ones is in our town and it honestly looks so much better. Maybe because it looks like they actually cleaned the place when they remodeled. Real talk, it's a crappy restaurant in the first place. They got a decent breakfast, but there are so many better places to eat at. The only thing they really have going for them in their real estate. They are right off the interstate and usually surrounded by hotels.

The problem is the food has been getting worse for a long time, and the previous menu changes didn't help. They took out a bunch of things the customer base liked. They added things that had no relation to the old country store theme. I assume they were trying to modernize the menu, which made the menu more like everybody else.

And now they redid the interior, and made it look like everybody else. That **** on the wall, as you put it, is called nostalgia, and is why many people came there despite the mediocre food after breakfast.

(08-24-2025 09:55 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(08-24-2025 09:38 PM)bobdizole Wrote:  

(08-24-2025 09:26 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(08-24-2025 09:20 PM)bobdizole Wrote:  

(08-24-2025 09:10 PM)fsquid Wrote:  that's the thing though, they are a public company with no revenue growth in 5 years. So the regular customers aren't going to please the board.

This. The company was dieing, the current customer base never really came back after covid. They either had to do something drastic to revitalize the brand or limped along until they filed bankruptcy.

Dying unless the were doing metal fabrication

Yeah they may have just killed a sick patient

Thank's for the spelling correction. They very well might have. I honestly don't get the outrage. Tranny selling budlight, I get that one. Target selling tranny clothes, 100% get that one. But all CB has done is update their logo and get rid of the **** off of their walls. One of the remodeled ones is in our town and it honestly looks so much better. Maybe because it looks like they actually cleaned the place when they remodeled. Real talk, it's a crappy restaurant in the first place. They got a decent breakfast, but there are so many better places to eat at. The only thing they really have going for them in their real estate. They are right off the interstate and usually surrounded by hotels.

The problem is the food has been getting worse for a long time, and the previous menu changes didn't help. They took out a bunch of things the customer base liked. I assume they were trying to modernize the menu, which made it just like everybody else.

And now they redid the interior, and made it look like everybody else. That **** on the wall, as you put it, is called nostalgia, and is why many people came there despite the mediocre food after breakfast.

They still have the country store in the front ;-)

(08-24-2025 09:58 PM)bobdizole Wrote:  

(08-24-2025 09:55 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(08-24-2025 09:38 PM)bobdizole Wrote:  

(08-24-2025 09:26 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(08-24-2025 09:20 PM)bobdizole Wrote:  This. The company was dieing, the current customer base never really came back after covid. They either had to do something drastic to revitalize the brand or limped along until they filed bankruptcy.

Dying unless the were doing metal fabrication

Yeah they may have just killed a sick patient

Thank's for the spelling correction. They very well might have. I honestly don't get the outrage. Tranny selling budlight, I get that one. Target selling tranny clothes, 100% get that one. But all CB has done is update their logo and get rid of the **** off of their walls. One of the remodeled ones is in our town and it honestly looks so much better. Maybe because it looks like they actually cleaned the place when they remodeled. Real talk, it's a crappy restaurant in the first place. They got a decent breakfast, but there are so many better places to eat at. The only thing they really have going for them in their real estate. They are right off the interstate and usually surrounded by hotels.

The problem is the food has been getting worse for a long time, and the previous menu changes didn't help. They took out a bunch of things the customer base liked. I assume they were trying to modernize the menu, which made it just like everybody else.

And now they redid the interior, and made it look like everybody else. That **** on the wall, as you put it, is called nostalgia, and is why many people came there despite the mediocre food after breakfast.

They still have the country store in the front ;-)

Big whoop. They screwed the pooch, lol.

(08-24-2025 10:05 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(08-24-2025 09:58 PM)bobdizole Wrote:  

(08-24-2025 09:55 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(08-24-2025 09:38 PM)bobdizole Wrote:  

(08-24-2025 09:26 PM)shere khan Wrote:  Dying unless the were doing metal fabrication

Yeah they may have just killed a sick patient

Thank's for the spelling correction. They very well might have. I honestly don't get the outrage. Tranny selling budlight, I get that one. Target selling tranny clothes, 100% get that one. But all CB has done is update their logo and get rid of the **** off of their walls. One of the remodeled ones is in our town and it honestly looks so much better. Maybe because it looks like they actually cleaned the place when they remodeled. Real talk, it's a crappy restaurant in the first place. They got a decent breakfast, but there are so many better places to eat at. The only thing they really have going for them in their real estate. They are right off the interstate and usually surrounded by hotels.

The problem is the food has been getting worse for a long time, and the previous menu changes didn't help. They took out a bunch of things the customer base liked. I assume they were trying to modernize the menu, which made it just like everybody else.

And now they redid the interior, and made it look like everybody else. That **** on the wall, as you put it, is called nostalgia, and is why many people came there despite the mediocre food after breakfast.

They still have the country store in the front ;-)

Big whoop. They screwed the pooch, lol.

Time will tell. I think the internet rage machine is pumping this into something more than it is. I have seen conservative twitter personalities from states that don't have a CB within a 1000 miles acting like the company just put bald eagle on the menu. Like I said in the other thread on this, let's look at the numbers in 6 months of actual in store sales and that will be the metric of the success or failure of this brand change. Right now everything is speculation.

$100M in lost cap value isn't speculation. Ask Bud Light.

Also, I bet the southern CBs will suffer. Maybe not the Yankee ones who don't mind Denny's, lol.

Plus, the change was partly b/c the franchise revenue was flat or losing before, iirc. Just no way this helps.

What possessed CB to pick NYC of all places to "celebrate a fall menu and logo makeover with a festive country music concert...." https://www.wsj.com/business/hospitality..._lead_pos8

Truly bone-headed marketing.....

(08-25-2025 02:13 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

Ok Bud Light

Maybe they can team up.

The record is clear, put liberals in charge of anything and stand back and witness the destruction. No one can do it better.

That didn't say a thing. They still don't get it. We don't want white walls. We don't want booths. We don't want new menu items.

We want the one place we can go that serves what we grew up on, and reminds us of the old days. There are a million restaurants that do the other things.

Frickin' Waffle House. When was the last time they did a full renovation? A big menu change? A new logo?

NEVER. Why? People like what they have. It works.

Okay, maybe sales were flat. I bet everybody's sales are slow to recover from Covid. But if you're going to make changes, why not do a few test runs in a few stores, rather than just redoing the whole thing without testing first?

You people are morons.

You knew they had to be libs, b/c they run their businesses like they run their cities. Into the ground.

There was no move Cracker Barrel could have made that would have been more damaging than this one. Well, perhaps except for making Bill Dazzle the brand's TV pitchman.

(08-25-2025 05:16 PM)TripleA Wrote:  That didn't say a thing. They still don't get it. We don't want white walls. We don't want booths. We don't want new menu items.

We want the one place we can go that serves what we grew up on, and reminds us of the old days. There are a million restaurants that do the other things.

Frickin' Waffle House. When was the last time they did a full renovation? A big menu change? A new logo?

NEVER. Why? People like what they have. It works.

Okay, maybe sales were flat. I bet everybody's sales are slow to recover from Covid. But if you're going to make changes, why not do a few test runs in a few stores, rather than just redoing the whole thing without testing first?

You people are morons.

You knew they had to be libs, b/c they run their businesses like they run their cities. Into the ground.

Their clientele is old and dying off. Their sales are flat due to menu hikes but their customer count is down; as are most in foodservice these days.
I’ve never seen a company remodel meet with this level of backlash, particularly given the relatively modest changes. Geez, go look at McDonald’s remodels & changes… no more Grimace, no more Hamburgular, complete footprint rebuild of their outlets, few if any counter servers. Businesses update or they die.

(08-25-2025 05:27 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(08-25-2025 05:16 PM)TripleA Wrote:  That didn't say a thing. They still don't get it. We don't want white walls. We don't want booths. We don't want new menu items.

We want the one place we can go that serves what we grew up on, and reminds us of the old days. There are a million restaurants that do the other things.

Frickin' Waffle House. When was the last time they did a full renovation? A big menu change? A new logo?

NEVER. Why? People like what they have. It works.

Okay, maybe sales were flat. I bet everybody's sales are slow to recover from Covid. But if you're going to make changes, why not do a few test runs in a few stores, rather than just redoing the whole thing without testing first?

You people are morons.

You knew they had to be libs, b/c they run their businesses like they run their cities. Into the ground.

Their clientele is old and dying off. Their sales are flat due to menu hikes but their customer count is down; as are most in foodservice these days.
I’ve never seen a company remodel meet with this level of backlash, particularly given the relatively modest changes. Geez, go look at McDonald’s remodels & changes… no more Grimace, no more Hamburgular, complete footprint rebuild of their outlets, few if any counter servers. Businesses update or they die.

Typical lib response who isn't a CB customer. When was the last time a McD's customer went there for the decor, or the nostalgia, or the food style that few others offer?

When you pin your customer attraction on those things, then you delete a lot of them, you will get a reaction a little different from remodeling a McDonald's.

Cracker Barrel has always aimed at a specific audience, and that audience is not trans or gay, it's country. Mensa has NO idea why that is.

He also thinks only old people are country. Most of the young people I know are just as country as I am. Mensa can't comprehend that either.

His limited thinking ability is sad really.

I’ve said it for years (as have many of us here), liberals ruin everything they touch.
Cracker Barrel is the latest example. And a perfect example at that.

(08-25-2025 05:58 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(08-25-2025 05:27 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(08-25-2025 05:16 PM)TripleA Wrote:  That didn't say a thing. They still don't get it. We don't want white walls. We don't want booths. We don't want new menu items.

We want the one place we can go that serves what we grew up on, and reminds us of the old days. There are a million restaurants that do the other things.

Frickin' Waffle House. When was the last time they did a full renovation? A big menu change? A new logo?

NEVER. Why? People like what they have. It works.

Okay, maybe sales were flat. I bet everybody's sales are slow to recover from Covid. But if you're going to make changes, why not do a few test runs in a few stores, rather than just redoing the whole thing without testing first?

You people are morons.

You knew they had to be libs, b/c they run their businesses like they run their cities. Into the ground.

Their clientele is old and dying off. Their sales are flat due to menu hikes but their customer count is down; as are most in foodservice these days.
I’ve never seen a company remodel meet with this level of backlash, particularly given the relatively modest changes. Geez, go look at McDonald’s remodels & changes… no more Grimace, no more Hamburgular, complete footprint rebuild of their outlets, few if any counter servers. Businesses update or they die.

Typical lib response who isn't a CB customer. When was the last time a McD's customer went there for the decor, or the nostalgia, or the food style that few others offer?

When you pin your customer attraction on those things, then you delete a lot of them, you will get a reaction a little different from remodeling a McDonald's.

I like Cracker Barrel

(08-25-2025 06:43 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  I like Cracker Barrel

So they've gone so far as to have Cracker Barrel for Trannies?