(08-19-2025 02:17 PM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(08-19-2025 02:13 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(08-19-2025 01:33 PM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(08-19-2025 09:13 AM)shere khan Wrote:  

(08-19-2025 09:01 AM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  I would bet all of the cash reserved for tritium supplies was stolen by corrupt generals. What you think?




Russia has attempted to fire 4 ballistic multiple warhead missiles while at war with Ukraine. One successful launch dropped its inert payload on Ukraine. There are videos of this. One blew up on launch. One blew up while fueling and one went off course and disintegrated during reentry.

Sure sure...and somehow they bring our astronauts home.

Time for you to ship out, man up and go fight for Ukraine.

Sure Karen. Time for you to honor your forefathers and join the front for Putin. I bet you could drive a T64.

Nah. Im America first. Im not a slaviloon.

Go get em Tiger. Im sure they will take you

Maybe I was wrong. Maybe you were Todor.

You guys need to stop, we're all on the same side, remember? Although, y'all are pretty funny. A buddy and I used to host a cam chat room. It was called The Fight Club. If you came in there you were going to be brutally insulted. You guys would have fit right in. Some of the comedy in that room was better than most stand up.

(08-19-2025 02:25 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(08-19-2025 02:22 PM)TripleA Wrote:  SK and WSME, if you two are going to continue your never-ending battle, could you at least try to be funny now and then? Thanks.

(08-19-2025 02:29 PM)Bearhawkeye Wrote:  Just thought this was an interesting photo:

That chick on the far left looks like she just shite her pants. Who are those people?

The second one is sheer genius.

(08-19-2025 06:12 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  

(08-19-2025 02:17 PM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(08-19-2025 02:13 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(08-19-2025 01:33 PM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(08-19-2025 09:13 AM)shere khan Wrote:  Sure sure...and somehow they bring our astronauts home.

Time for you to ship out, man up and go fight for Ukraine.

Sure Karen. Time for you to honor your forefathers and join the front for Putin. I bet you could drive a T64.

Nah. Im America first. Im not a slaviloon.

Go get em Tiger. Im sure they will take you

Maybe I was wrong. Maybe you were Todor.

You guys need to stop, we're all on the same side, remember? Although, y'all are pretty funny. A buddy and I used to host a cam chat room. It was called The Fight Club. If you came in there you were going to be brutally insulted. You guys would have fit right in. Some of the comedy in that room was better than most stand up.

Its good. I like wsme and im prett sure he likes me. He is just wrong on this one and can play rough without whining.

I hope he is at least getting some hot ukraine poon or something

(08-19-2025 02:22 PM)TripleA Wrote:  SK and WSME, if you two are going to continue your never-ending battle, could you at least try to be funny now and then? Thanks.

What did I do? I didn’t do anything.

(08-19-2025 05:53 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(08-19-2025 02:29 PM)Bearhawkeye Wrote:  Just thought this was an interesting photo:

Italian leader looks really bored.

They all look bored to me. She's by far the best of the group.

(08-19-2025 08:12 PM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(08-19-2025 02:22 PM)TripleA Wrote:  SK and WSME, if you two are going to continue your never-ending battle, could you at least try to be funny now and then? Thanks.

What did I do? I didn’t do anything.

When you're b!tching at SK, which is perfectly understandable, lol, you are guilty of being un-damn-funny! Lighten up!

(08-19-2025 06:15 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  

(08-19-2025 02:29 PM)Bearhawkeye Wrote:  Just thought this was an interesting photo:

That chick on the far left looks like she just shite her pants. Who are those people?

Heads of (L to R) Italy, EU, Germany, France, Finland and to the far right, NATO. Not sure about the dude behind Z. Starmer from the UK seems to be missing in that photo.

Meloni of Italy is the only conservative in the whole group, and she is our strongest ally of the bunch, by far.

Fox is reporting this morning that a high ranking Russian official essentially walked back everything we thought we got from Putin last week. No agreement on a tri-lateral meeting, and no boots on the ground from EU countries allowed by Russia.

Speculation is that Putin has no intention of bringing 100K troops back from the front lines who might have a few willing to assassinate him.

This war is not going to end anytime soon.

Maybe we'll make a bunch of money then.

(08-20-2025 05:31 AM)TripleA Wrote:  Fox is reporting this morning that a high ranking Russian official essentially walked back everything we thought we got from Putin last week. No agreement on a tri-lateral meeting, and no boots on the ground from EU countries allowed by Russia.

Speculation is that Putin has no intention of bringing 100K troops back from the front lines who might have a few willing to assassinate him.

This war is not going to end anytime soon.

This. I’m sorry but Trump just got played by Putin again. Putin managed to get Trump to delay sanctions again. Maybe there is some plan we don’t know about but this looks like case as it stands now.

There was a map of Russian occupation of Ukraine in the room and Zelinsky reminded the president that Russia had gained exactly 1% of Ukraine in the last 1000 days. And this gain was at the cost of several hundred thousand casualties and immense loss of equipment. And Ukraine has fortified five more lines of defense if they fall back from the present line. It will cost Russia another couple of million men to gain another 5%.
Russia is also reeling from their logistics and oil and gas refineries being clobbered by Ukrainian drones, which are only gaining in effectiveness and power.

And as I’ve said before the economic catastrophe that is brewing in Russia will be their end soon. Another example of this is troop recruitment. Russia is 45,000 recruits short of the same number this time last year. They are giving each recruit a $30,000 signing bonus and $150,000 death benefit. And they are being killed at the tune of 1000 a day. And this is beginning to take its toll The Russian press has even reported some recruitment offices are being closed….because they can’t afford to keep them open.

Just a little more economic pressure and constant drone attacks inside Russia could break the will of those supporting Putin and end this war. It will take help from the west and for the Ukrainians to not give in on the constant targeting of civilians by Russia.

(08-20-2025 05:31 AM)TripleA Wrote:  Fox is reporting this morning that a high ranking Russian official essentially walked back everything we thought we got from Putin last week. No agreement on a tri-lateral meeting, and no boots on the ground from EU countries allowed by Russia.

Speculation is that Putin has no intention of bringing 100K troops back from the front lines who might have a few willing to assassinate him.

This war is not going to end anytime soon.

Ive been saying it. Those wirh Putin derangement syndrome may get somone worse than him. This is about Russia not one man. There is so much propaganda right now I wouldnt believe anything. The globohomos sure in the hell want the war to continue as does Zelinsky.

(08-20-2025 07:49 AM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(08-20-2025 05:31 AM)TripleA Wrote:  Fox is reporting this morning that a high ranking Russian official essentially walked back everything we thought we got from Putin last week. No agreement on a tri-lateral meeting, and no boots on the ground from EU countries allowed by Russia.

Speculation is that Putin has no intention of bringing 100K troops back from the front lines who might have a few willing to assassinate him.

This war is not going to end anytime soon.

This. I’m sorry but Trump just got played by Putin again. Putin managed to get Trump to delay sanctions again. Maybe there is some plan we don’t know about but this looks like case as it stands now.

There was a map of Russian occupation of Ukraine in the room and Zelinsky reminded the president that Russia had gained exactly 1% of Ukraine in the last 1000 days. And this gain was at the cost of several hundred thousand casualties and immense loss of equipment. And Ukraine has fortified five more lines of defense if they fall back from the present line. It will cost Russia another couple of million men to gain another 5%.
Russia is also reeling from their logistics and oil and gas refineries being clobbered by Ukrainian drones, which are only gaining in effectiveness and power.

And as I’ve said before the economic catastrophe that is brewing in Russia will be their end soon. Another example of this is troop recruitment. Russia is 45,000 recruits short of the same number this time last year. They are giving each recruit a $30,000 signing bonus and $150,000 death benefit. And they are being killed at the tune of 1000 a day. And this is beginning to take its toll The Russian press has even reported some recruitment offices are being closed….because they can’t afford to keep them open.

Just a little more economic pressure and constant drone attacks inside Russia could break the will of those supporting Putin and end this war. It will take help from the west and for the Ukrainians to not give in on the constant targeting of civilians by Russia.

Putin won't be serious until he start to feel some pain. When he and his oligarch buddies start feeling the financial pinch. When it gets tough to pay for materials for weapons. When he has to start pulling people off the streets of Moscow and St. Petersburg to go to the meat grinder and the public turns against him. He can get away with it in Chechnya and Siberia and the outlying regions.

We need to do serious sanctions and allow Ukraine to take out as many oil refineries as they can. Create pain in Russia. Make the war unprofitable and dangerous for Putin and his inner circle. He will not do something that jeopordizes his rule.

If I were the Ukrainian generals, I would be using those drones to take out every railroad bridge inside Russia I can. Russia can't support the war with trucks on their dismal roads. Then circle back and attack the repair crews with drones.

(08-20-2025 10:15 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(08-20-2025 07:49 AM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(08-20-2025 05:31 AM)TripleA Wrote:  Fox is reporting this morning that a high ranking Russian official essentially walked back everything we thought we got from Putin last week. No agreement on a tri-lateral meeting, and no boots on the ground from EU countries allowed by Russia.

Speculation is that Putin has no intention of bringing 100K troops back from the front lines who might have a few willing to assassinate him.

This war is not going to end anytime soon.

This. I’m sorry but Trump just got played by Putin again. Putin managed to get Trump to delay sanctions again. Maybe there is some plan we don’t know about but this looks like case as it stands now.

There was a map of Russian occupation of Ukraine in the room and Zelinsky reminded the president that Russia had gained exactly 1% of Ukraine in the last 1000 days. And this gain was at the cost of several hundred thousand casualties and immense loss of equipment. And Ukraine has fortified five more lines of defense if they fall back from the present line. It will cost Russia another couple of million men to gain another 5%.
Russia is also reeling from their logistics and oil and gas refineries being clobbered by Ukrainian drones, which are only gaining in effectiveness and power.

And as I’ve said before the economic catastrophe that is brewing in Russia will be their end soon. Another example of this is troop recruitment. Russia is 45,000 recruits short of the same number this time last year. They are giving each recruit a $30,000 signing bonus and $150,000 death benefit. And they are being killed at the tune of 1000 a day. And this is beginning to take its toll The Russian press has even reported some recruitment offices are being closed….because they can’t afford to keep them open.

Just a little more economic pressure and constant drone attacks inside Russia could break the will of those supporting Putin and end this war. It will take help from the west and for the Ukrainians to not give in on the constant targeting of civilians by Russia.

Putin won't be serious until he start to feel some pain. When he and his oligarch buddies start feeling the financial pinch. When it gets tough to pay for materials for weapons. When he has to start pulling people off the streets of Moscow and St. Petersburg to go to the meat grinder and the public turns against him. He can get away with it in Chechnya and Siberia and the outlying regions.

We need to do serious sanctions and allow Ukraine to take out as many oil refineries as they can. Create pain in Russia. Make the war unprofitable and dangerous for Putin and his inner circle. He will not do something that jeopordizes his rule.

Thats what I think. That said----Im a little skeptical of the report that Putin has reversed himself on the peace concessions he made to Trump. If he did---then its time for some stick.

Massive secondary sanctions on China, India, and Brazil for starters. On the war front---sell Ukraine whatever they want to buy. Behind the scenes I'd also help Z improve his nations production output of its domestically manufactured Neptune and Flamingo long range missiles. Both have been tested and are in serial production, but the output is fairly limited due to various bottlenecks. Fix those bottlenecks. If the Ukrainians could get the output of those missiles up to say 50-100 a month----they could finally reach deep enough with warheads large enough---to likely cripple Russia's fuel production---probably in as little as a few months. That kind of damage to Russia's money maker would likely change Putin's calculus on the value of a reasonable negotiated settlement that could end the Ukrainian War.

It seems like either side could deliver a death blow to the other if they wanted to but the collateral damage (or unintended consequences of that) is not worth it. Instead they keep wasting time, money and troops and dance around each other.

Putin probably figured Ukraine would roll over and now he is stubborn, Zelensky found a gravy train and has dug in his heels as well.... now it is an EGO MATCH.


Other than a Nuclear release - get out of their way and let them beat each other up until they finally get tired.

(08-20-2025 10:25 AM)bullet Wrote:  If I were the Ukrainian generals, I would be using those drones to take out every railroad bridge inside Russia I can. Russia can't support the war with trucks on their dismal roads. Then circle back and attack the repair crews with drones.

Its a good idea, but Im fairly sure their drones arent carrying large enough warheads to take out bridges. They are pretty good at blowing up thin skinned soft targets like refineries. The current strategy of undermining the fuel the Russians can easily get to its army in Ukraine seems to be working. There are currently fuel shortages and rationing in the occupied areas of Ukraine as well as some limited areas of Russia. It may take time, but I think current strategy is starting to yield real dividends.

(08-20-2025 11:01 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(08-20-2025 10:15 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(08-20-2025 07:49 AM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(08-20-2025 05:31 AM)TripleA Wrote:  Fox is reporting this morning that a high ranking Russian official essentially walked back everything we thought we got from Putin last week. No agreement on a tri-lateral meeting, and no boots on the ground from EU countries allowed by Russia.

Speculation is that Putin has no intention of bringing 100K troops back from the front lines who might have a few willing to assassinate him.

This war is not going to end anytime soon.

This. I’m sorry but Trump just got played by Putin again. Putin managed to get Trump to delay sanctions again. Maybe there is some plan we don’t know about but this looks like case as it stands now.

There was a map of Russian occupation of Ukraine in the room and Zelinsky reminded the president that Russia had gained exactly 1% of Ukraine in the last 1000 days. And this gain was at the cost of several hundred thousand casualties and immense loss of equipment. And Ukraine has fortified five more lines of defense if they fall back from the present line. It will cost Russia another couple of million men to gain another 5%.
Russia is also reeling from their logistics and oil and gas refineries being clobbered by Ukrainian drones, which are only gaining in effectiveness and power.

And as I’ve said before the economic catastrophe that is brewing in Russia will be their end soon. Another example of this is troop recruitment. Russia is 45,000 recruits short of the same number this time last year. They are giving each recruit a $30,000 signing bonus and $150,000 death benefit. And they are being killed at the tune of 1000 a day. And this is beginning to take its toll The Russian press has even reported some recruitment offices are being closed….because they can’t afford to keep them open.

Just a little more economic pressure and constant drone attacks inside Russia could break the will of those supporting Putin and end this war. It will take help from the west and for the Ukrainians to not give in on the constant targeting of civilians by Russia.

Putin won't be serious until he start to feel some pain. When he and his oligarch buddies start feeling the financial pinch. When it gets tough to pay for materials for weapons. When he has to start pulling people off the streets of Moscow and St. Petersburg to go to the meat grinder and the public turns against him. He can get away with it in Chechnya and Siberia and the outlying regions.

We need to do serious sanctions and allow Ukraine to take out as many oil refineries as they can. Create pain in Russia. Make the war unprofitable and dangerous for Putin and his inner circle. He will not do something that jeopordizes his rule.

Thats what I think. That said----Im a little skeptical of the report that Putin has reversed himself on the peace concessions he made to Trump. If he did---then its time for some stick.

Massive secondary sanctions on China, India, and Brazil for starters. On the war front---sell Ukraine whatever they want to buy. Behind the scenes I'd also help Z improve his nations production output of its domestically manufactured Neptune and Flamingo long range missiles. Both have been tested and are in serial production, but the output is fairly limited due to various bottlenecks. Fix those bottlenecks. If the Ukrainians could get the output of those missiles up to say 50-100 a month----they could finally reach deep enough with warheads large enough---to likely cripple Russia's fuel production---probably in as little as a few months. That kind of damage to Russia's money maker would likely change Putin's calculus on the value of a reasonable negotiated settlement that could end the Ukrainian War.

Not just a report. It's on video. The dude who said it is Sergey Lavrov, Putin's long-time Foreign Affairs Minister. No way in hell he says that without Putin's approval. And I saw Lavrov say it (translated).

(08-20-2025 11:12 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(08-20-2025 10:25 AM)bullet Wrote:  If I were the Ukrainian generals, I would be using those drones to take out every railroad bridge inside Russia I can. Russia can't support the war with trucks on their dismal roads. Then circle back and attack the repair crews with drones.

Its a good idea, but Im fairly sure their drones arent carrying large enough warheads to take out bridges. They are pretty good at blowing up thin skinned soft targets like refineries. The current strategy of undermining the fuel the Russians can easily get to its army in Ukraine seems to be working. There are currently fuel shortages and rationing in the occupied areas of Ukraine as well as some limited areas of Russia. It may take time, but I think current strategy is starting to yield real dividends.

The Ukrainians are pretty inventive. I’ve seen videos of them infiltrating Russia and rigging the bridges with high explosives. Retreating to safe territory then sending a drone to set off the charges. Thinking back, they may have used tank mines as explosives.