I know there are some NC residents like me on this board... Thought I'd see if anyone is interested in a more state focused discussion

Today is veto override day

Here is a breakdown of the 14 vetoes being looked at today. The House is look at 7 as is the Senate

https://www.carolinajournal.com/state-le...ide-votes/

House is 1 short of supermajority
Senate has one on the nose

It will be interesting to see if any Dems who voted for some of these bills will vote to override

Does it take 2/3 or 3/5 to override

in NC it is 2/3rds...72 of 120 in the House and 30 of 50 in the Senate

The Senate has overriden as 7 of their bills including a constituational carry, ICE cooperation mandate, and two eilminating DEI in higher education

The House has overriden 5 of their 7 including one that defines male and female ans the only gender and ending taxpayer funded gender transition surgeries and one that gives the state legislature extra authority on regulating high dollar executive branch agency spending.

Two bills have been fully overrideen: one involves protecting donor disclosures to non profit agencies and the other fully repeals North Carolina’s interim 2030 70% carbon-reduction mandate

Make that 3 as the House overrode a veto about Charter School Board changes

Keep the updates coming! I woulda supported all 14 (likely), but plan to join you in the next year or so as a registered NC voter…

In a shocker, the Senate failed in their override vote of a House Bill that allowed non Public schools to have authorized person other than a SRO be armed

The original bill did not pass with 30 votes, so there are some Senate Republicans who refused to back down from their opposition...I'm surprised they let it come to a vote though

Sloppy shop by NC Senate Republicans

Surprising misstep by the seasoned Berger

And they got the train back on the tracks

(07-29-2025 10:06 AM)solohawks Wrote:  Sloppy shop by NC Senate Republicans

Surprising misstep by the seasoned Berger

Glad it worked out. But when people say Republicans are “the stupid party”, this is what they have in mind.

When was last time the Democrats — not just in NC, but anywhere — goofed up that badly?

(07-29-2025 10:28 AM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(07-29-2025 10:06 AM)solohawks Wrote:  Sloppy shop by NC Senate Republicans

Surprising misstep by the seasoned Berger

Glad it worked out. But when people say Republicans are “the stupid party”, this is what they have in mind.

When was last time the Democrats — not just in NC, but anywhere — goofed up that badly?

Nancy Pelosi bringing the emergency funding bill in 2008 to a house floor vote without having secured enough votes needed and nearly causing a financial collapse is the biggest one I can think of.

(07-29-2025 10:34 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(07-29-2025 10:28 AM)Native Georgian Wrote:  Glad it worked out. But when people say Republicans are “the stupid party”, this is what they have in mind.

When was last time the Democrats — not just in NC, but anywhere — goofed up that badly?

Nancy Pelosi bringing the emergency funding bill in 2008 to a house floor vote without having secured enough votes needed and nearly causing a financial collapse is the biggest one I can think of.

Fair point.

But still, that was 17 years ago. And that particular vote was tricky, because neither the D’s nor the R’s were unified in support or in opposition.

Took a quick lunch break...while I was gone they overrode 4 more. So here is how things look as of now

Completely overriden: 8 of 14
Overriden by Senate, pending House 4 of 14
Needs to be overriden by House and then sent to Senate 2 of 14

The 8 that were completely overridden had Dem House support initially and were, relatively speaking, non controversial
SB 416 — Personal Privacy Protection Act - bars state agencies from collecting or disclosing nonprofit donor data, imposing penalties on officials who disclose

SB 266 — Power Bill Reduction Act - repeals North Carolina’s interim 2030 70% carbon-reduction mandate, projected to save consumers $15 billion by eliminating costly compliance measures

SB 254 — Charter School Changes - expands charter-school authority by empowering the Charter Schools Review Board

HB 193 — Firearms Law Revisions - allowes non Public schools to have authorized person other than a SRO be armed

HB 805 — Prevent Sexual Exploitation/Women and Minors - defines male/female in state law based on biological attributes and bars K-12 schools from placing male and female students in the same sleeping quarters. It also prohibits state funds for gender transition procedures in correctional facilities and increases the statute of limitations on lawsuits for transition surgeries to 10 years

HB 549 — Clarify Powers of State Auditor - gives the auditor broader access to state agencies’ databases, digital records, facilities, and property

HB 402 — Limit Rules With Substantial Financial Costs - require greater legislative scrutiny for rules that impose high financial costs on state businesses and residents

HB 318 — The Criminal Illegal Alien Enforcement Act - tightens the timeline on the law mandating that law enforcement alert ICE before an illegal alien criminal suspect is scheduled to be released

The 4 Senate Bills that were had no House Dem Support were not vote on to be overridden today
SB 50 — Freedom to Carry NC - allows permitless concealed carry of handguns for adults aged 18 and over (Constitutional Carry Law)

SB 153 — North Carolina Border Protection Act - mandates cooperation with federal immigration enforcement and empowers residents to sue local governments that adopt “sanctuary” policies

SB 227 — Eliminating DEI in Public K–12 Education - would prohibit DEI offices and diversity trainings in public schools by targeting “divisive concepts” like race-based meritocracy

SB 558 — Eliminating DEI in Public Higher Education - prohibits DEI offices and statements in UNC System campuses and community colleges

The 2 that needs to be overriden by House and then sent to Senate
HB 171 — Equality in State Agencies - Prohibition on Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion bans diversity, equity, and inclusion initiatives in state government agencies.

HB 96 — Expedited Removal of Unauthorized Persons - Stein vetoed the bill, stating that while he generally supported its core provisions, he opposed an added amendment that increased regulation of pet stores. The bill received bipartisan support, with 17 House Democrats joining Republicans to pass the measure - So for this one that amendment they added caused some concern about allowing puppy mills and they probably wrecked it for the session because

Of the 6 outstanding:
3 are DEI bans
1 is Constitutional Carry
1 is End to Sancutary Cities and allowing residents to sue local goverments that have sanctuary policies
1 is one everyone is in favor of with an unrelated amendment that caused problems

The first 5 they simply don't have the votes for right now as all NC House Dems are opposed and will need to figure something out to get 1 to flip or 2 to take a walk

Here are the House Dems that crossed the line to create a functioning supermajority

Now that the legislative fun is over...wanted to ask other NC residents....who's yalls early favorite in the Senate Race next year?

To me, Cooper is the early favorite as no one knows who the GOP guy is.

Odd choice of candidate, but maybe generic Trump republican is what it will take to beat undefeated Cooper

(07-29-2025 11:38 AM)solohawks Wrote:  Now that the legislative fun is over...wanted to ask other NC residents....who's yalls early favorite in the Senate Race next year?

To me, Cooper is the early favorite as no one knows who the GOP guy is.

Odd choice of candidate, but maybe generic Trump republican is what it will take to beat undefeated Cooper

Cooper has to be considered the favorite at this point, yes.

But we’ll see.

NC is politically schizophrenic.

That's all I have to add.

Cooper would be a disaster as a Senator. The GOP Chair is running for that seat.

So NC still doesn't have constitutional carry? Did we really F that up?

We have some of the worst politics in the country.

(07-29-2025 03:46 PM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  So NC still doesn't have constitutional carry? Did we really F that up?

We have some of the worst politics in the country.

Apparently so.

(07-29-2025 02:59 PM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  NC is politically schizophrenic.

That's all I have to add.

I would love to interview the Trump - Cooper voter