(03-27-2025 10:14 AM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(03-26-2025 11:31 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  Under Biden, most new jobs went to migrants

Recent data has revealed significant changes in labor force participation in the United States during the Biden administration. Nearly 90% of new job growth since early 2020 reportedly went to migrants. Of these, approximately 60% were illegal aliens.

Center for Immigration Studies researcher Steven Camarota wrote, “All this at a time when a near-record share of working-age U.S.-born men remain out of the labor force.

I love when an article discusses data but doesn't link the study and in fact doesn't even tell you where it was published. It's sort of like they don't want you to know?

Anyway... I tried to look for this recent article but didn't find it in my quick look. The author seems to have an axe to grind, though.

https://www.splcenter.org/resources/hate...-debunked/

https://plotagainstimmigrants.com/networ...-camarota/

Can't tell if his data is any good or not. MSN won't even tell you when it was published ("recent data").

So hard to make any conclusions except that MSN is a joke of a news organization and people shouldn't probably put too much stock into their hyperbolic headlines. I won't comment on the people who breathlessly post links to their stories...

Bingo. Camarota is just another grifter who hates brown people and wants to Make America Caucasian Again.

Disregard any alleged "research" he cites. It was likely done on his toilet, like the people who "did their own research" during the pandemic.

(03-27-2025 11:14 AM)InterestedX Wrote:  

(03-27-2025 10:14 AM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(03-26-2025 11:31 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  Under Biden, most new jobs went to migrants

Recent data has revealed significant changes in labor force participation in the United States during the Biden administration. Nearly 90% of new job growth since early 2020 reportedly went to migrants. Of these, approximately 60% were illegal aliens.

Center for Immigration Studies researcher Steven Camarota wrote, “All this at a time when a near-record share of working-age U.S.-born men remain out of the labor force.

I love when an article discusses data but doesn't link the study and in fact doesn't even tell you where it was published. It's sort of like they don't want you to know?

Anyway... I tried to look for this recent article but didn't find it in my quick look. The author seems to have an axe to grind, though.

https://www.splcenter.org/resources/hate...-debunked/

https://plotagainstimmigrants.com/networ...-camarota/

Can't tell if his data is any good or not. MSN won't even tell you when it was published ("recent data").

So hard to make any conclusions except that MSN is a joke of a news organization and people shouldn't probably put too much stock into their hyperbolic headlines. I won't comment on the people who breathlessly post links to their stories...

Bingo. Camarota is just another grifter who hates brown people and wants to Make America Caucasian Again.

Disregard any alleged "research" he cites. It was likely done on his toilet, like the people who "did their own research" during the pandemic.

That wasn't my point. I don't know if the data is good or bad because MSN doesn't give any details about it. Perhaps Camarota provides accurate analysis but there's no doubt that he has made his career out of bashing immigration (and my assumption is that he is financially supported by anti-immigration right-wingers) so that his data would need to be carefully scrutinized (just as it would if he were supported by extremist left-wingers).

(03-27-2025 12:19 PM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(03-27-2025 11:14 AM)InterestedX Wrote:  

(03-27-2025 10:14 AM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(03-26-2025 11:31 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  Under Biden, most new jobs went to migrants

Recent data has revealed significant changes in labor force participation in the United States during the Biden administration. Nearly 90% of new job growth since early 2020 reportedly went to migrants. Of these, approximately 60% were illegal aliens.

Center for Immigration Studies researcher Steven Camarota wrote, “All this at a time when a near-record share of working-age U.S.-born men remain out of the labor force.

I love when an article discusses data but doesn't link the study and in fact doesn't even tell you where it was published. It's sort of like they don't want you to know?

Anyway... I tried to look for this recent article but didn't find it in my quick look. The author seems to have an axe to grind, though.

https://www.splcenter.org/resources/hate...-debunked/

https://plotagainstimmigrants.com/networ...-camarota/

Can't tell if his data is any good or not. MSN won't even tell you when it was published ("recent data").

So hard to make any conclusions except that MSN is a joke of a news organization and people shouldn't probably put too much stock into their hyperbolic headlines. I won't comment on the people who breathlessly post links to their stories...

Bingo. Camarota is just another grifter who hates brown people and wants to Make America Caucasian Again.

Disregard any alleged "research" he cites. It was likely done on his toilet, like the people who "did their own research" during the pandemic.

That wasn't my point. I don't know if the data is good or bad because MSN doesn't give any details about it. Perhaps Camarota provides accurate analysis but there's no doubt that he has made his career out of bashing immigration (and my assumption is that he is financially supported by anti-immigration right-wingers) so that his data would need to be carefully scrutinized (just as it would if he were supported by extremist left-wingers).

Understood. I generally discount research unless it is done by "disinterested" parties. Anything from either end of the spectrum is ruined by bias.

(03-27-2025 01:49 PM)InterestedX Wrote:  

(03-27-2025 12:19 PM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(03-27-2025 11:14 AM)InterestedX Wrote:  

(03-27-2025 10:14 AM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(03-26-2025 11:31 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  Under Biden, most new jobs went to migrants

Recent data has revealed significant changes in labor force participation in the United States during the Biden administration. Nearly 90% of new job growth since early 2020 reportedly went to migrants. Of these, approximately 60% were illegal aliens.

Center for Immigration Studies researcher Steven Camarota wrote, “All this at a time when a near-record share of working-age U.S.-born men remain out of the labor force.

I love when an article discusses data but doesn't link the study and in fact doesn't even tell you where it was published. It's sort of like they don't want you to know?

Anyway... I tried to look for this recent article but didn't find it in my quick look. The author seems to have an axe to grind, though.

https://www.splcenter.org/resources/hate...-debunked/

https://plotagainstimmigrants.com/networ...-camarota/

Can't tell if his data is any good or not. MSN won't even tell you when it was published ("recent data").

So hard to make any conclusions except that MSN is a joke of a news organization and people shouldn't probably put too much stock into their hyperbolic headlines. I won't comment on the people who breathlessly post links to their stories...

Bingo. Camarota is just another grifter who hates brown people and wants to Make America Caucasian Again.

Disregard any alleged "research" he cites. It was likely done on his toilet, like the people who "did their own research" during the pandemic.

That wasn't my point. I don't know if the data is good or bad because MSN doesn't give any details about it. Perhaps Camarota provides accurate analysis but there's no doubt that he has made his career out of bashing immigration (and my assumption is that he is financially supported by anti-immigration right-wingers) so that his data would need to be carefully scrutinized (just as it would if he were supported by extremist left-wingers).

Understood. I generally discount research unless it is done by "disinterested" parties. Anything from either end of the spectrum is ruined by bias.

Yep.

(03-27-2025 02:08 PM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(03-27-2025 01:49 PM)InterestedX Wrote:  

(03-27-2025 12:19 PM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(03-27-2025 11:14 AM)InterestedX Wrote:  

(03-27-2025 10:14 AM)Rice93 Wrote:  I love when an article discusses data but doesn't link the study and in fact doesn't even tell you where it was published. It's sort of like they don't want you to know?

Anyway... I tried to look for this recent article but didn't find it in my quick look. The author seems to have an axe to grind, though.

https://www.splcenter.org/resources/hate...-debunked/

https://plotagainstimmigrants.com/networ...-camarota/

Can't tell if his data is any good or not. MSN won't even tell you when it was published ("recent data").

So hard to make any conclusions except that MSN is a joke of a news organization and people shouldn't probably put too much stock into their hyperbolic headlines. I won't comment on the people who breathlessly post links to their stories...

Bingo. Camarota is just another grifter who hates brown people and wants to Make America Caucasian Again.

Disregard any alleged "research" he cites. It was likely done on his toilet, like the people who "did their own research" during the pandemic.

That wasn't my point. I don't know if the data is good or bad because MSN doesn't give any details about it. Perhaps Camarota provides accurate analysis but there's no doubt that he has made his career out of bashing immigration (and my assumption is that he is financially supported by anti-immigration right-wingers) so that his data would need to be carefully scrutinized (just as it would if he were supported by extremist left-wingers).

Understood. I generally discount research unless it is done by "disinterested" parties. Anything from either end of the spectrum is ruined by bias.

Yep.

I generally discount research unless the findings and data are made known. Both of them.

If that is not the case, I can make a garden industry of 'research' purporting to show anything I wish, and pass it off as 'according to world reknowned expert tanqtonic...'.

That cited article failed to show anything but conclusory statements. And availed its readers with no ability to ascertain any issues at the raw study level. But hey, lets cite any study out of the blue when it cannot be third party reviewed and make all sorts of conclusory statements from it.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/...2a365&ei=9

Your boy Schiff doing what he does best...lying.

disturbing pattern

NatGuard deployed to help sanctuary city over fentanyl crisis and juvenile crime

Hmmm. sanctuary city....fentanyl crisis.... crime. Nope, no possible connection.

anti-Israel protests

Where are the anti-Russia protests?

How about the anti-Hamas protests?

Or the anti-Iran protests?

Nope, it is just these anti-jewish protests that the left loves.

QED

(04-10-2025 10:20 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  anti-Israel protests

Where are the anti-Russia protests?

How about the anti-Hamas protests?

Or the anti-Iran protests?

Nope, it is just these anti-jewish protests that the left loves.

QED

Calling bullsh!t on your shifting goalposts. You are being disingenuous.

(04-10-2025 10:59 AM)Frizzy Owl Wrote:  

(04-10-2025 10:20 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  anti-Israel protests

Where are the anti-Russia protests?

How about the anti-Hamas protests?

Or the anti-Iran protests?

Nope, it is just these anti-jewish protests that the left loves.

QED

Calling bullsh!t on your shifting goalposts. You are being disingenuous.

When have I ever had a different position? Always been pro-Israel. Always been anti-Hamas and anti-terrorists. Always thought the Oct 7 attack was unprovoked and dastardly. Always been anti-those who would defend it. Play the link. She was attacked for being Jewish. How does calling a Jewish student an "inbred swine' count as being just a protest on Israeli policies? Jewish students on many campuses are being attacked for being Jewish, not for Israeli government polices. I call bull**** on your objection.

(04-10-2025 11:26 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(04-10-2025 10:59 AM)Frizzy Owl Wrote:  

(04-10-2025 10:20 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  anti-Israel protests

Where are the anti-Russia protests?

How about the anti-Hamas protests?

Or the anti-Iran protests?

Nope, it is just these anti-jewish protests that the left loves.

QED

Calling bullsh!t on your shifting goalposts. You are being disingenuous.

When have I ever had a different position? Read the link. She was attacked for being jewish.

It's Fox News, so it is, by default, complete bull****.

Ok, Frizz.

I know of no anti-Russia protests on US campuses, after the invasion of Ukraine. Either time. I know of no attacks on students of Russian heritage due to their heritage

I know of no antiHamas protests on US campuses. On the contrary most of these anti-Israel/antiJewish protests feature Hamas flags and literature.

I also know of no attacks on Ukrainean students or those of Ukrainean heritage due to their government's choice to fight back.

Alone stands the attacks on anything Israeli and on Jewish students for being Jewish. The attacks cannot and should not be differentiated.

But if you can make the case that responses toward Russian, Hamas, and Ukraine students exactly mirror what is happening to Jewish students, go for it.

Throw a rock and run away, eh?

It's pretty clear the US is in the grip of a wave of antiSemitism not seen since the 30's.

Trying to pass it off as pro-Palestinean is like a KKK guy saying I'm not against blacks, I'm for whites, and that makes it OK.

There's a goalpost for ya, Nando.

(04-10-2025 07:37 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  Throw a rock and run away, eh?

It's pretty clear the US is in the grip of a wave of antiSemitism not seen since the 30's.

Trying to pass it off as pro-Palestinean is like a KKK guy saying I'm not against blacks, I'm for whites, and that makes it OK.

There's a goalpost for ya, Nando.

Frizzy learning the lesson that the rest of us have learned over the past couple years... if you are having a back-and-forth with OO then you better not walk from the Quad for IRL stuff for part of your day unless you want to get excoriated.

antisemitism on US campuses

"Since the terrorist attack on Israel by Hamas on October 7, 2023, antisemitic incidents against Jewish students on college campuses have reached alarmingly high rates, increasing by 700% from 2022 to 2023."

college antisemitism

Eden Yadegar, a junior at Columbia University, described how Jewish students were attacked by people wielding sticks outside of the university library, and how she has been mocked on campus as well as on social media.

“We have been attacked by sticks outside our library. We have been attacked by angry mobs and we have been threatened to ‘Keep f—ing running,’” said Yadegar, president of Students Supporting Israel at Columbia University.

Hannah Beth Schlacter, an MBA student at the University of California, Berkeley’s Haas School of Business, accused the university of fostering an environment where Jewish students are not given equal opportunity to learn and participate in activities.

Schlacter described the difficulty she and a fellow student faced getting help from the university’s police force after the student reported being spit on and called a “dirty Jew” during an on-campus protest.

Khan, graduate student president and co-founder of the MIT Israel Alliance, said MIT has become “overrun with toxic antisemitism” and by “terrorist supporters that directly threaten the lives of Jews on our campus.”

MIT ,Columbia, Berkley - aren't those supposed to be schools with smart kids?

California refineries

Patrick De Haan, a gasoline analyst, noted in an April 16 post to X that Valero’s announcement will leave only seven refineries in California by April 2026. For comparison, the state had 20 refineries as of 2000, according to the U.S. Energy Information Administration.

California’s “cap-and-trade” program, as well as its tax environment and push to ban the sale of new gas-powered cars in the state by 2035, are frequently cited as examples of hostile regulation driving refineries out of the state. Meanwhile, Newsom and other California Democrats like Attorney General Rob Bonta have ripped the fossil fuel industry for years, often characterizing it as a malignant force in society or a collusive industry committed to misleading consumers.

Obama’s Trump-Russia collusion report was corrupt from start: CIA review

Quote:A A bombshell new CIA review of the Obama administration’s spy agencies’ assessment that Russia interfered in the 2016 presidential election to help Donald Trump was deliberately corrupted by then-CIA Director John Brennan, FBI Director James Comey and Director of National Intelligence James Clapper, who were “excessively involved” in its drafting, and rushed its completion in a “chaotic,” “atypical” and “markedly unconventional” process that raised questions of a “potential political motive.”

Further, Brennan’s decision to include the discredited Steele dossier, over the objections of the CIA’s most senior Russia experts, “undermined the credibility” of the assessment.

The “Tradecraft Review of the 2016 Intelligence Community Assessment [ICA] on Russian Election Interference” was conducted by career professionals at the CIA’s Directorate of Analysis and was commissioned by CIA Director John Ratcliffe in May. ]bombshell new CIA review of the Obama administration’s spy agencies’ assessment that Russia interfered in the 2016 presidential election to help Donald Trump was deliberately corrupted by then-CIA Director John Brennan, FBI Director James Comey and Director of National Intelligence James Clapper, who were “excessively involved” in its drafting, and rushed its completion in a “chaotic,” “atypical” and “markedly unconventional” process that raised questions of a “potential political motive.”

Further, Brennan’s decision to include the discredited Steele dossier, over the objections of the CIA’s most senior Russia experts, “undermined the credibility” of the assessment.

The “Tradecraft Review of the 2016 Intelligence Community Assessment [ICA] on Russian Election Interference” was conducted by career professionals at the CIA’s Directorate of Analysis and was commissioned by CIA Director John Ratcliffe in May.

Quote: All the world can now see the truth: Brennan, Clapper and Comey manipulated intelligence and silenced career professionals — all to get Trump. Thank you to the career @CIA officers who conducted this review and exposed the facts. https://t.co/S7Mxz6xA6P

— CIA Director John Ratcliffe (@CIADirector) July 2, 2025

Wha? Ya mean Democrats and their Deep State Lackies LIED? Do tell.....

"All the world can now see the truth: Brennan, Clapper and Comey manipulated intelligence and silenced career professionals — all to get Trump."

And the "get Trump" movement is alive and well, and supported by several posters here.