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DOJ makes a massive medicare medicade fraud bust.
The U.S. Justice Department said on Monday that it halted a series of healthcare fraud schemes that sought to bilk the federal government out of $14.6 billion.
The operation, which the department called the largest healthcare fraud initiative in its history, led to criminal charges against 324 defendants and the seizure of more than $245 million in cash, luxury cars and other assets. The actual loss to the U.S. government totaled about $2.9 billion, officials said.

https://www.reuters.com/legal/government...025-06-30/
06-30-2025 02:05 PM
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My guess this is just the tip of the proverbial iceberg and also involves organized crime.
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Here come our Dem buddies to tell us that this isn't much money and DOGE is bad. 03-lmfao
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(06-30-2025 02:20 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  Here come our Dem buddies to tell us that this isn't much money and DOGE is bad. 03-lmfao

Was this discovered by DOGE or was it the normal checks that discovered it?
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(06-30-2025 02:30 PM)mlb Wrote:  
(06-30-2025 02:20 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  Here come our Dem buddies to tell us that this isn't much money and DOGE is bad. 03-lmfao

Was this discovered by DOGE or was it the normal checks that discovered it?

Does it matter?
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(06-30-2025 02:38 PM)TripleA Wrote:  
(06-30-2025 02:30 PM)mlb Wrote:  
(06-30-2025 02:20 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  Here come our Dem buddies to tell us that this isn't much money and DOGE is bad. 03-lmfao

Was this discovered by DOGE or was it the normal checks that discovered it?

Does it matter?

Yes. There has been checks in Medicare and Medicaid for decades, and they have charged people many times for crimes related to it. If DOGE actually was the reason for the discovery then I want to know since it has been very underwhelming so far.
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(06-30-2025 02:38 PM)TripleA Wrote:  
(06-30-2025 02:30 PM)mlb Wrote:  
(06-30-2025 02:20 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  Here come our Dem buddies to tell us that this isn't much money and DOGE is bad. 03-lmfao

Was this discovered by DOGE or was it the normal checks that discovered it?

Does it matter?

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Let's just say it's a bust that never would have happened under the idiot administration.
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(06-30-2025 02:48 PM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  Let's just say it's a bust that never would have happened under the idiot administration.

And thats all that matters
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(06-30-2025 02:42 PM)mlb Wrote:  
(06-30-2025 02:38 PM)TripleA Wrote:  
(06-30-2025 02:30 PM)mlb Wrote:  
(06-30-2025 02:20 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  Here come our Dem buddies to tell us that this isn't much money and DOGE is bad. 03-lmfao

Was this discovered by DOGE or was it the normal checks that discovered it?

Does it matter?

Yes. There has been checks in Medicare and Medicaid for decades, and they have charged people many times for crimes related to it. If DOGE actually was the reason for the discovery then I want to know since it has been very underwhelming so far.

Called it...

This is no big deal. Happens all the time. And, DOGE is bad.
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(06-30-2025 02:58 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  Called it...

This is no big deal. Happens all the time. And, DOGE is bad.

Called what? I never said DOGE was bad. I said they've been underwhelming. After the promises of $2T to find barely a fraction of it, I'm not impressed. Quite frankly, outside of USAID I don't know they've found anything of substance.
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(06-30-2025 03:06 PM)mlb Wrote:  Called what? I never said DOGE was bad. I said they've been underwhelming. After the promises of $2T to find barely a fraction of it, I'm not impressed. Quite frankly, outside of USAID I don't know they've found anything of substance.

I don't see how this is anything DOGE would have uncovered or been able to. This appears to involve foreign criminal enterprises for the most part. I would have to imagine they've been working on this for quite awhile.
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(06-30-2025 02:20 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  Here come our Dem buddies to tell us that this isn't much money and DOGE is bad. 03-lmfao

Based on the Fact that Rick Scott wins elections I don’t think Republicans actually care about Medicare fraud.
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(06-30-2025 03:13 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(06-30-2025 03:06 PM)mlb Wrote:  Called what? I never said DOGE was bad. I said they've been underwhelming. After the promises of $2T to find barely a fraction of it, I'm not impressed. Quite frankly, outside of USAID I don't know they've found anything of substance.

I don't see how this is anything DOGE would have uncovered or been able to. This appears to involve foreign criminal enterprises for the most part. I would have to imagine they've been working on this for quite awhile.

The article mentions the DOJ but nothing about DOGE. This is the part that jumped ou to me:
Quote:Those charged include 93 doctors and other medical professionals accused of submitting false claims to government healthcare programs like Medicare and Medicaid.

My guess is there are a TON more docs out there doing the exact same thing. If anything, hopefully this event will keep the watchdogs looking more closely, be that the DOJ or DOGE or whoever, as long as the criminals are persecuted, and if found to be actual doctors, those doctors also lose their medical license.
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Here they come! It never fails. 03-lmfao
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(06-30-2025 03:18 PM)VA49er Wrote:  The article mentions the DOJ but nothing about DOGE.

Correct, but oruvoice seems to think DOGE actually had a hand in it. That is why I asked if they actually did something here. It doesn't appear they did jack.
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(06-30-2025 02:30 PM)mlb Wrote:  
(06-30-2025 02:20 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  Here come our Dem buddies to tell us that this isn't much money and DOGE is bad. 03-lmfao

Was this discovered by DOGE or was it the normal checks that discovered it?

I think it started 6 months ago.
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(06-30-2025 03:18 PM)VA49er Wrote:  
(06-30-2025 03:13 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(06-30-2025 03:06 PM)mlb Wrote:  Called what? I never said DOGE was bad. I said they've been underwhelming. After the promises of $2T to find barely a fraction of it, I'm not impressed. Quite frankly, outside of USAID I don't know they've found anything of substance.

I don't see how this is anything DOGE would have uncovered or been able to. This appears to involve foreign criminal enterprises for the most part. I would have to imagine they've been working on this for quite awhile.

The article mentions the DOJ but nothing about DOGE. This is the part that jumped ou to me:
Quote:Those charged include 93 doctors and other medical professionals accused of submitting false claims to government healthcare programs like Medicare and Medicaid.

My guess is there are a TON more docs out there doing the exact same thing. If anything, hopefully this event will keep the watchdogs looking more closely, be that the DOJ or DOGE or whoever, as long as the criminals are persecuted, and if found to be actual doctors, those doctors also lose their medical license.

This was a MASSIVE undertaking...so this had to been going on for quite awhile.

Here's a link to the DOJ report which has links to indictments and all sorts of information.
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/national-...n-over-146

Here's a list of who was involved:

Quote:Principal Assistant Deputy Chief Jacob Foster, Assistant Deputy Chief Rebecca Yuan, Trial Attorney Miriam L. Glaser Dauermann, and Data Analyst Elizabeth Nolte, all of the Health Care Fraud Unit of the Criminal Division’s Fraud Section, led and coordinated this year’s Takedown. The cases are being prosecuted by the Health Care Fraud Unit’s National Rapid Response, Florida, Gulf Coast, Los Angeles, Midwest, New England, Northeast, and Texas Strike Forces; U.S. Attorneys’ Offices for the District of Arizona, Central District of California, Northern District of California, Southern District of California, District of Columbia, District of Connecticut, District of Delaware, Middle District of Florida, Northern District of Florida, Southern District of Florida, Middle District of Georgia, District of Idaho, Northern District of Illinois, Eastern District of Kentucky, Western District of Kentucky, Eastern District of Louisiana, Middle District of Louisiana, District of Maine, District of Massachusetts, Eastern District of Michigan, Western District of Michigan, Northern District of Mississippi, Southern District of Mississippi, District of Montana, District of Nevada, District of New Hampshire, District of New Jersey, Eastern District of New York, Northern District of New York, Southern District of New York, Western District of New York, Eastern District of North Carolina, Western District of North Carolina, District of North Dakota, Northern District of Ohio, Southern District of Ohio, Northern District of Oklahoma, Western District of Oklahoma, District of Oregon, Eastern District of Pennsylvania, District of South Carolina, Middle District of Tennessee, Western District of Tennessee, Northern District of Texas, Southern District of Texas, Western District of Texas, District of Vermont, Eastern District of Virginia, Western District of Washington, and Northern District of West Virginia; and State Attorneys General’s Offices for California, Illinois, Indiana, Louisiana, Massachusetts, Michigan, Missouri, New York, Ohio, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, and Wisconsin. The Health Care Fraud Unit’s Data Analytics Team used cutting-edge data analytics to identify and support the investigations that led to these charges.

In addition to FBI, HHS-OIG, DEA, and CMS, HSI, VA-OIG, IRS Criminal Investigation, Defense Criminal Investigative Service, Department of Labor, United States Postal Service Office of Inspector General, Office of Personnel Management Office of Inspector General, and other federal, state, and local law enforcement agencies participated in the operation. The Medicaid Fraud Control Units of California, the District of Columbia, Florida, Georgia, Illinois, Indiana, Louisiana, Massachusetts, Michigan, Missouri, New York, North Carolina, North Dakota, Ohio, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, Texas, Virginia, and Wisconsin also participated in the investigation of many of the federal and state cases announced today.

The Fraud Section leads the Criminal Division’s efforts to combat health care fraud through the Health Care Fraud Strike Forces. Prior to the charges announced as part of today’s nationwide Takedown and since its inception in March 2007, the Health Care Fraud Strike Force, which operates in 27 districts, charged more than 5,400 defendants who collectively billed Medicare, Medicaid, and private health insurers more than $27 billion.
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(06-30-2025 03:19 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  Here they come! It never fails. 03-lmfao

Yep. Even the Deaf Dumb and Blind Kid (Tom) showed up.
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(06-30-2025 03:22 PM)mlb Wrote:  
(06-30-2025 03:18 PM)VA49er Wrote:  The article mentions the DOJ but nothing about DOGE.

Correct, but oruvoice seems to think DOGE actually had a hand in it. That is why I asked if they actually did something here. It doesn't appear they did jack.

Would it make you feel better to just say the Trump administration deserves the credit?

Yeah, I didn't think so. 03-lmfao
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