(06-05-2025 07:05 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  

(06-04-2025 05:54 PM)BlueDragon Wrote:  I am beginning to believe Trump is scared of Putin.

Why hasn’t Trump responded to the Ukrainians attack?

Silence speaks volumes

That's complete nonsense from someone not known for being nonsensical.

Trump talked to Putin yesterday, and afterwards, mentioned the Ukrainian attack, and said Putin told Trump he was going to retaliate.

Not sure what else Trump needs to say about it.

Not sure what Trump is supposed to do about it either. Do some here think Trump can declare war on Russia?

Oh muh gerd! Trump needs to do sumfin!

Maybe a triple threat match. Trump vs Zelenskyy vs Putin. Last man standing rules.

(06-04-2025 05:54 PM)BlueDragon Wrote:  I am beginning to believe Trump is scared of Putin.

Why hasn’t Trump responded to the Ukrainians attack?

Silence speaks volumes

Because F Ukraine and Russia. Let them wipe each other out.

(06-05-2025 07:09 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(06-05-2025 07:05 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  

(06-04-2025 05:54 PM)BlueDragon Wrote:  I am beginning to believe Trump is scared of Putin.

Why hasn’t Trump responded to the Ukrainians attack?

Silence speaks volumes

That's complete nonsense from someone not known for being nonsensical.

Trump talked to Putin yesterday, and afterwards, mentioned the Ukrainian attack, and said Putin told Trump he was going to retaliate.

Not sure what else Trump needs to say about it.

… that another attack on Ukraine will result in increased military support from the US & the West for Ukraine. Putin can end this war. Ukraine cannot. They were invaded by Russia and will fight until Russia withdraws. The US must push for Russian withdrawal or the war will not end.

Who cares if the war ends or not?

(06-05-2025 07:14 AM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  Not sure what Trump is supposed to do about it either. Do some here think Trump can declare war on Russia?

That's what they're wanting him to do. That might lead us down the path to World War III. Trust me, we don't need that. And something else we should keep in mind is that there are powerful people in all parts of the government who are counting on us getting into a full-blown war so they can continue to make money off the death, destruction, and suffering that comes with war. Those people are the worst.

Well except only Congress can declare war.

(06-05-2025 07:39 AM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  Well except only Congress can declare war.

Of course, but that didn't stop other presidents in the past from using military force in foreign lands, namely LBJ and GWB. (Yes, they had Congressional approval, but war wasn't declared.)

Good point

We aren't getting into a war.

In 2022 when Ukraine sunk the Moskva. "It's now WWIII!"

In 2023 when Ukraine attacked the Kartch bridge "they are going to get nuked"

In 2024 when Ukraine invaded into Russia "it's literally WWIII!!"

In 2025 when Ukraine blew up billions in strategic aircraft with off the shelf drones "we are all gonna die!!!"

What is it about this topic that turns otherwise intelligent people into frightened blue haired baristas?

I've got an idea!

Why doesn't Trump stumble up to a microphone and mumble "Don't".

That's always been so effective in the past.

(06-05-2025 07:46 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  We aren't getting into a war.

In 2022 when Ukraine sunk the Moskva. "It's now WWIII!"

In 2023 when Ukraine attacked the Kartch bridge "they are going to get nuked"

In 2024 when Ukraine invaded into Russia "it's literally WWIII!!"

In 2025 when Ukraine blew up billions in strategic aircraft with off the shelf drones "we are all gonna die!!!"

What is it about this topic that turns otherwise intelligent people into frightened blue haired baristas?

Yeah, it's all about the Benjamins.

(06-05-2025 07:46 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  We aren't getting into a war.

In 2022 when Ukraine sunk the Moskva. "It's now WWIII!"

In 2023 when Ukraine attacked the Kartch bridge "they are going to get nuked"

In 2024 when Ukraine invaded into Russia "it's literally WWIII!!"

In 2025 when Ukraine blew up billions in strategic aircraft with off the shelf drones "we are all gonna die!!!"

What is it about this topic that turns otherwise intelligent people into frightened blue haired baristas?

The Propaganda Machine. Let's not forget North Korea and South Korea are still at war, too.

It is mostly about the Benjamin's. Most of the $$ pouring into Ukraine is being spent directly in the United States.

It's also about keeping the schoolyard bully from trying to take other kids' lunch money next. Especially kids we are bound by treaty to stand up for.

(06-05-2025 07:50 AM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  

(06-05-2025 07:46 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  We aren't getting into a war.

In 2022 when Ukraine sunk the Moskva. "It's now WWIII!"

In 2023 when Ukraine attacked the Kartch bridge "they are going to get nuked"

In 2024 when Ukraine invaded into Russia "it's literally WWIII!!"

In 2025 when Ukraine blew up billions in strategic aircraft with off the shelf drones "we are all gonna die!!!"

What is it about this topic that turns otherwise intelligent people into frightened blue haired baristas?

The Propaganda Machine. Let's not forget North Korea and South Korea are still at war, too.

And?

(06-05-2025 07:36 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(06-05-2025 07:09 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(06-05-2025 07:05 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  

(06-04-2025 05:54 PM)BlueDragon Wrote:  I am beginning to believe Trump is scared of Putin.

Why hasn’t Trump responded to the Ukrainians attack?

Silence speaks volumes

That's complete nonsense from someone not known for being nonsensical.

Trump talked to Putin yesterday, and afterwards, mentioned the Ukrainian attack, and said Putin told Trump he was going to retaliate.

Not sure what else Trump needs to say about it.

… that another attack on Ukraine will result in increased military support from the US & the West for Ukraine. Putin can end this war. Ukraine cannot. They were invaded by Russia and will fight until Russia withdraws. The US must push for Russian withdrawal or the war will not end.

You can send them money and go fight

I swear some people on the right must still watch nuts like Alex Jones to get all pearl clutchy. Fear and anger still sells.

The last thing Putin wants is a fully NATO commitment in Ukraine & he’s banking on Trump’s TACO diplomacy to serve as the delay he needs to buy the time he needs to lay claim to as much land as he can steal. Ukraine knows Trump only wants a deal & doesn’t care what he barters away as long as he can politically claim victory at home; so they will keep attacking inside Russia and lean on the EU & Great Britain for support.

The only way this comes to an end is for the US & NATO to fully back Ukrainian efforts… minus troop commitments….
Russia has to start experiencing more of these significant losses.