Oh my gosh, all this righteous indignation from a bunch of speds. Hilarious.

(05-11-2025 07:38 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  Oh my gosh, all this righteous indignation from a bunch of speds. Hilarious.

Right?

(05-11-2025 07:38 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  Oh my gosh, all this righteous indignation from a bunch of speds. Hilarious.

TDS rages on.

CrimsonPhantom
Air Force One, Courtesy of Qatar: Constitutional and Cost-Saving

Quote:The modern American left is allergic to legality when it does not serve their narrative. Case in point: the apoplexy over President Donald J. Trump’s acceptance of a $1 billion Boeing 747-8 jumbo jet from the royal family of Qatar. This aircraft, originally outfitted as a "flying palace," has been offered as a gift to the United States government for temporary use as an interim Air Force One, with the condition that it later be donated to the Trump Presidential Library Foundation. Pundits clutch their pearls, invoking the Emoluments Clause, bribery statutes, and vague notions of impropriety. But their argument is not only unsound, it is unserious.

The aircraft is not a gift to Trump personally, and therein lies the constitutional linchpin.

There are a couple of really stupid posters on the wrong side of an issue again in this thread. This pretty much shoots their asses down, well done.

Responses from here should be interesting. Or maybe not coming.

(05-11-2025 01:59 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(05-11-2025 01:30 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(05-11-2025 01:28 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(05-11-2025 01:16 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(05-11-2025 01:08 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  Yea, that’s why the loaner is going to the government, then over to the Trump Memorial Asss Kicking Golden Palace Library Foundation

Or, for short the TMAKGPLF, a non-profit property of the U.S. Gov’t.

So, rest easy Crazy’s, at no time will your favorite POTUS personally own this magnificent, beautiful plane.

Loons gon loon, I guess.

Because its a deferred gift, then it somehow makes the bribe ok?
If they want to present the plane as a gift to the United States, then so be it. If they are giving it as a loaner until Trump can assume control once out of office, then its a bribe.

You didn’t bother to read your own article again, did you?

It IS being given to the U.S. govt. SOD Hegseth to accept this generous offer.

MOB just happens to be POTUS right now.
Sounds like your real complaint should be with Boeing.

Nope.
The plane transfers ownership the day Trump leaves office.

To the presidential library. Another Federal property.

Tell you what.

Actually go READ your own article (or whatever has been posted above) then come moan and whine if needed. Everything you’ve said “If” this, “if” that is exactly what they say is gonna happen.

Seems you dun been duped again, same as whoever/whatever you’re listening to.

So sad.

It's amazing, I've read through to this point and have held off commenting on every stupid thing menses says because I read different articles that explained all his speculation away.

(05-11-2025 07:38 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  

(05-11-2025 12:16 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  So the response from the Trumpistas on this transaction is 'nothing to see', 'whadabout (something Biden)', and the general 'nothing but TDS' ?

Seriously?

Nothing at all unsavory? Especially with the apparent aim of Trump keeping it after the Presidency?

The Trump Library...

Brought up and answered above.

Cool --- the Trump library. Where the only person to use it will be..... who?

The dancing to this question is off the charts.

(05-11-2025 02:03 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(05-11-2025 01:59 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  To the presidential library. Another Federal property.

Why dont you go read up on the personal use by ex-Presidents of items in the respective libraries.

Why don't you read the articles posted here that clearly state the jet is a gift to the USAF, not to Trump.

"The aircraft, during its operational life, will be used exclusively for official government purposes. Afterward, it becomes part of a presidential library, an educational institution run in conjunction with NARA. The chain of custody is public from start to finish".

(05-11-2025 07:43 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  CrimsonPhantom
Air Force One, Courtesy of Qatar: Constitutional and Cost-Saving

Quote:The modern American left is allergic to legality when it does not serve their narrative. Case in point: the apoplexy over President Donald J. Trump’s acceptance of a $1 billion Boeing 747-8 jumbo jet from the royal family of Qatar. This aircraft, originally outfitted as a "flying palace," has been offered as a gift to the United States government for temporary use as an interim Air Force One, with the condition that it later be donated to the Trump Presidential Library Foundation. Pundits clutch their pearls, invoking the Emoluments Clause, bribery statutes, and vague notions of impropriety. But their argument is not only unsound, it is unserious.

The aircraft is not a gift to Trump personally, and therein lies the constitutional linchpin.

There are a couple of really stupid posters on the wrong side of an issue again in this thread. This pretty much shoots their asses down, well done.

And again... if/when to the Trump library, which individual will have the ability to exercise its use at their whim?

That second domino is a *****. But keep up at that cha cha cha. Lolz.

(05-11-2025 07:59 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  

(05-11-2025 02:03 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(05-11-2025 01:59 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  To the presidential library. Another Federal property.

Why dont you go read up on the personal use by ex-Presidents of items in the respective libraries.

Why don't you read the articles posted here that clearly state the jet is a gift to the USAF, not to Trump.

"The aircraft, during its operational life, will be used exclusively for official government purposes. Afterward, it becomes part of a presidential library, an educational institution run in conjunction with NARA. The chain of custody is public from start to finish".

Followed by a change of ownership to an entity that only Trump will enjoy its use.

That second domino again....

(05-11-2025 08:03 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(05-11-2025 07:59 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  

(05-11-2025 02:03 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(05-11-2025 01:59 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  To the presidential library. Another Federal property.

Why dont you go read up on the personal use by ex-Presidents of items in the respective libraries.

Why don't you read the articles posted here that clearly state the jet is a gift to the USAF, not to Trump.

"The aircraft, during its operational life, will be used exclusively for official government purposes. Afterward, it becomes part of a presidential library, an educational institution run in conjunction with NARA. The chain of custody is public from start to finish".

Followed by a change of ownership to an entity that only Trump will enjoy its use.

That second domino again....

It would be given to Trump as a gift from the U.S. government by then.

Don't get me wrong. Regifting is tacky, but it's still legal because by then, it'll have been owned by the U.S. government, who in this scenario would be the regifters.

(05-11-2025 07:25 PM)--- Wrote:  When are the non MAGA going to give up here? These retards know it's unconstitutional. They know they'd be crying from the apex of Fox News if this was Biden. Nothing ******* matters to them. They are without morals. They are without values. Anything Trump does is acceptable by default. They're ******* with you purely because you're outraged. They live off your outrage. Everything you post here is fodder for them to keep going. Use your time better, don't waste it on people who want to see you upset.

Your best use of time is resisting this administration. Go burn some Teslas, go resist the SS unpersoning people on the streets, support your nontraditional allies, support the constitution by force. Every ounce you spend on people like these deplorables is wasted support. Every precedent they set will be used against them, and the only thing stopping that premonition from reality is your acquiesance.

You are an unhinged pathetic loser. Where have you been?

Literally nobody takes any of what you say seriously. Your pathetic candidate got her ass handed to her, and you disappear and don’t face the music.

The definition of a coward. Also a great representation of the vast majority of liberals nowadays

(05-11-2025 08:06 PM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  

(05-11-2025 07:25 PM)--- Wrote:  When are the non MAGA going to give up here? These retards know it's unconstitutional. They know they'd be crying from the apex of Fox News if this was Biden. Nothing ******* matters to them. They are without morals. They are without values. Anything Trump does is acceptable by default. They're ******* with you purely because you're outraged. They live off your outrage. Everything you post here is fodder for them to keep going. Use your time better, don't waste it on people who want to see you upset.

Your best use of time is resisting this administration. Go burn some Teslas, go resist the SS unpersoning people on the streets, support your nontraditional allies, support the constitution by force. Every ounce you spend on people like these deplorables is wasted support. Every precedent they set will be used against them, and the only thing stopping that premonition from reality is your acquiesance.

You are an unhinged pathetic loser. Where have you been?

Literally nobody takes any of what you say seriously. Your pathetic candidate got her ass handed to her, and you disappear and don’t face the music.

The definition of a coward. Also a great representation of the vast majority of liberals nowadays

I think GTS should revoke ---'s mod powers, too.

Goodness they are unbelievably entertaining.

(05-11-2025 08:09 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  

(05-11-2025 08:06 PM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  

(05-11-2025 07:25 PM)--- Wrote:  When are the non MAGA going to give up here? These retards know it's unconstitutional. They know they'd be crying from the apex of Fox News if this was Biden. Nothing ******* matters to them. They are without morals. They are without values. Anything Trump does is acceptable by default. They're ******* with you purely because you're outraged. They live off your outrage. Everything you post here is fodder for them to keep going. Use your time better, don't waste it on people who want to see you upset.

Your best use of time is resisting this administration. Go burn some Teslas, go resist the SS unpersoning people on the streets, support your nontraditional allies, support the constitution by force. Every ounce you spend on people like these deplorables is wasted support. Every precedent they set will be used against them, and the only thing stopping that premonition from reality is your acquiesance.

You are an unhinged pathetic loser. Where have you been?

Can we get GTS to revoke his mod powers as well? The guy just decided to ragequit a day or two after Trump won and has been pretty much MIA ever since.

It’s utterly pathetic…

I know people here give people like Tom, Tanq, and a few others a hard time because they are on the left or anti Trump (not hating just being real), but those guys are not cowardly frauds and clearly can back up arguments. So they have my respect.

But this lunatic, no.

(05-11-2025 07:46 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Responses from here should be interesting. Or maybe not coming.

Do you honestly buy the garbage posted in the Trump apologist X thread?

This country does not need a gift from Qatar; but Trump does.
All Trump has done is manage a scheme that allows him to use & keep a billion dollar gift from Qatar. Why would the DoD give a billion dollar plane to the Trump library??? Perhaps so the library, which is a library in name only, can lend it back to Trump? Do you honestly believe it will sit on display for the public to tour? This is a grift, not gift.

(05-11-2025 08:10 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  Goodness they are unbelievably entertaining.

I was just thinking the same thing, sitting here chuckling at all the dysfunction. This place always makes me laugh.

https://www.congress.gov/89/statute/STAT...-Pg952.pdf
Foreign Gifts and Decorations Act of 1966.

(05-11-2025 08:13 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(05-11-2025 07:46 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Responses from here should be interesting. Or maybe not coming.

Do you honestly buy the garbage posted in the Trump apologist X thread?

This country does not need a gift from Qatar; but Trump does.
All Trump has done is manage a scheme that allows him to use & keep a billion dollar gift from Qatar. Why would the DoD give a billion dollar plane to the Trump library??? Perhaps so the library, which is a library in name only, can lend it back to Trump? Do you honestly believe it will sit on display for the public to tour? This is a grift, not gift.

Yeah, and you also think Biden was a fine president, and have no issue with AOC, Crockett, Bernie, Newsom, Harris, etc. GTFO.