bwahahahahahahaha libturds and main stream media are working hard to spin this in some sort of negative light.

Right...now who would spin positive job growth as a negative?

And like always under trump, you need to wait a month or two, right troll boy?

Quote:The change in total nonfarm payroll employment for February was revised down by 15,000, from +117,000 to +102,000, and the change for March was revised down by 43,000, from +228,000 to +185,000. With these revisions, employment in February and March combined is 58,000 lower than previously reported. (Monthly revisions result from additional reports received from businesses and government agencies since the last published estimates and from the recalculation of seasonal factors.)

https://www.bls.gov/news.release/archive...022025.htm

Does anyone else remember all the (later revised down) job reports Tom was constantly posting during the Biden years?

This is master level hypocrisy we have here.

And when you subtract the revision from last month...

Quote:February was revised down by 34,000, from +151,000 to +117,000.

https://www.bls.gov/news.release/archive...042025.htm

February has now been revised down by 49,000 total.

https://x.com/zerohedge/status/191828931...jJ1vR_BcHw

Reversing this trend is why Trump won.

It’s always better to wait a few months for final revisions.

(05-02-2025 07:43 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  bwahahahahahahaha libturds and main stream media are working hard to spin this in some sort of negative light.

Winning

Tom is all over every thread now because he knows he's losing and it's driving him quite mad.

(05-02-2025 07:59 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Right...now who would spin positive job growth as a negative?

And like always under trump, you need to wait a month or two, right troll boy?

Quote:The change in total nonfarm payroll employment for February was revised down by 15,000, from +117,000 to +102,000, and the change for March was revised down by 43,000, from +228,000 to +185,000. With these revisions, employment in February and March combined is 58,000 lower than previously reported. (Monthly revisions result from additional reports received from businesses and government agencies since the last published estimates and from the recalculation of seasonal factors.)

https://www.bls.gov/news.release/archive...022025.htm

lulz check out the government jobs. Going down.

Biden had horrible revisions to job numbers with incredibly high government hiring.

(05-02-2025 08:18 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(05-02-2025 07:59 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Right...now who would spin positive job growth as a negative?

And like always under trump, you need to wait a month or two, right troll boy?

Quote:The change in total nonfarm payroll employment for February was revised down by 15,000, from +117,000 to +102,000, and the change for March was revised down by 43,000, from +228,000 to +185,000. With these revisions, employment in February and March combined is 58,000 lower than previously reported. (Monthly revisions result from additional reports received from businesses and government agencies since the last published estimates and from the recalculation of seasonal factors.)

https://www.bls.gov/news.release/archive...022025.htm

lulz check out the government jobs. Going down.

Biden had horrible revisions to job numbers with incredibly high government hiring.

I know you don't quite understand this, like most things, but people who work for the government also pay taxes and their money also contributes to the economy just as those who work in the private sector.

(05-02-2025 08:31 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(05-02-2025 08:18 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(05-02-2025 07:59 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Right...now who would spin positive job growth as a negative?

And like always under trump, you need to wait a month or two, right troll boy?

Quote:The change in total nonfarm payroll employment for February was revised down by 15,000, from +117,000 to +102,000, and the change for March was revised down by 43,000, from +228,000 to +185,000. With these revisions, employment in February and March combined is 58,000 lower than previously reported. (Monthly revisions result from additional reports received from businesses and government agencies since the last published estimates and from the recalculation of seasonal factors.)

https://www.bls.gov/news.release/archive...022025.htm

lulz check out the government jobs. Going down.

Biden had horrible revisions to job numbers with incredibly high government hiring.

I know you don't quite understand this, like most things, but people who work for the government also pay taxes and their money also contributes to the economy just as those who work in the private sector.

True…but job redundancy is being purged in the private sector as well.

The main difference, the federal workers are paid by the taxpayers, which doesn’t actually help grow anything.

Plus, some of those workers are now being hired in the private sector, boosting those numbers.

(05-02-2025 08:31 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(05-02-2025 08:18 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(05-02-2025 07:59 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Right...now who would spin positive job growth as a negative?

And like always under trump, you need to wait a month or two, right troll boy?

Quote:The change in total nonfarm payroll employment for February was revised down by 15,000, from +117,000 to +102,000, and the change for March was revised down by 43,000, from +228,000 to +185,000. With these revisions, employment in February and March combined is 58,000 lower than previously reported. (Monthly revisions result from additional reports received from businesses and government agencies since the last published estimates and from the recalculation of seasonal factors.)

https://www.bls.gov/news.release/archive...022025.htm

lulz check out the government jobs. Going down.

Biden had horrible revisions to job numbers with incredibly high government hiring.

I know you don't quite understand this, like most things, but people who work for the government also pay taxes and their money also contributes to the economy just as those who work in the private sector.

And they do all that while working home and refusing to go back into the office.

I know you dont understand this, but going into debt to fund new workers isnt job creation, buttmunch. Thats basically the entire Biden* economy.

1. Go into debt and buy government jobs to make the employment number not look so bad.

2. Allow inflation to go high to help keep the GDP numbers in positive territory.

(05-02-2025 08:40 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(05-02-2025 08:31 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(05-02-2025 08:18 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(05-02-2025 07:59 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Right...now who would spin positive job growth as a negative?

And like always under trump, you need to wait a month or two, right troll boy?

Quote:The change in total nonfarm payroll employment for February was revised down by 15,000, from +117,000 to +102,000, and the change for March was revised down by 43,000, from +228,000 to +185,000. With these revisions, employment in February and March combined is 58,000 lower than previously reported. (Monthly revisions result from additional reports received from businesses and government agencies since the last published estimates and from the recalculation of seasonal factors.)

https://www.bls.gov/news.release/archive...022025.htm

lulz check out the government jobs. Going down.

Biden had horrible revisions to job numbers with incredibly high government hiring.

I know you don't quite understand this, like most things, but people who work for the government also pay taxes and their money also contributes to the economy just as those who work in the private sector.

And they do all that while working home and refusing to go back into the office.

I know you dont understand this, but going into debt to fund new workers isnt job creation, buttmunch. Thats basically the entire Biden* economy.

1. Go into debt and buy government jobs to make the employment number not look so bad.

2. Allow inflation to go high to help keep the GDP numbers in positive territory.

Said this for years.

The U. S. Federal bureaucracy is the single largest social welfare program ever known to mankind.

Millions of people making nice 6 figure salaries all on the private sectors dime.

Remember the cries of “They can’t DO THIS!!! Who else would hire me?!?

Yea, I member

(05-02-2025 08:38 AM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  The main difference, the federal workers are paid by the taxpayers, which doesn’t actually help grow anything.

Plus, some of those workers are now being hired in the private sector, boosting those numbers.

While it certainly won't be as much as the private sector helps things grow, it most definitely DOES help the economy grow to some extent.

(05-02-2025 09:47 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(05-02-2025 08:38 AM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  The main difference, the federal workers are paid by the taxpayers, which doesn’t actually help grow anything.

Plus, some of those workers are now being hired in the private sector, boosting those numbers.

While it certainly won't be as much as the private sector helps things grow, it most definitely DOES help the economy grow to some extent.

Government jobs give the economy a floor by deficit spending. I’m not saying the jobs aren’t important or always wasteful, obviously some are just like overcrowded private companies with redundant jobs that aren’t needed.

The private sector actually provides sustainable long term growth if the right conditions are met. That’s where the actual innovation comes from…

We’re 40T in debt and on an unsustainable path. Government needs to be purged in every sector. Yes, in the short term it will hurt from job losses and dislocation, but it’s a prerequisite for the next boom.

Alot of people can't figure out the US Government is in the "business" of spending money. It doesn't produce anything. It just collects fees and takes the citizens' money. A government employee making $100,000 requires the Government to TAKE $100,000 from the citizens. That employee then pays back about 12% in the form of Federal Taxes. That is an approximate 88% loss of the taxpayers' "investment" (the Feds love to use that word). That same employee then pays taxes in other forms such as Sales taxes. Extra Government employees are a deficit. Always have been and always will until the government gets in the business of making a profit somehow, which isn't going to happen.

(05-02-2025 10:23 AM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  

(05-02-2025 09:47 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(05-02-2025 08:38 AM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  The main difference, the federal workers are paid by the taxpayers, which doesn’t actually help grow anything.

Plus, some of those workers are now being hired in the private sector, boosting those numbers.

While it certainly won't be as much as the private sector helps things grow, it most definitely DOES help the economy grow to some extent.

Government jobs give the economy a floor by deficit spending. I’m not saying the jobs aren’t important or always wasteful, obviously some are just like overcrowded private companies with redundant jobs that aren’t needed.

The private sector actually provides sustainable long term growth if the right conditions are met. That’s where the actual innovation comes from…

We’re 40T in debt and on an unsustainable path. Government needs to be purged in every sector. Yes, in the short term it will hurt from job losses and dislocation, but it’s a prerequisite for the next boom.

Agree. It is distressing and concerning when too many Dem’s do not even recognize the looming disaster and fewer still offer viable alternatives or improvements over Trump’s plan.

(05-02-2025 10:23 AM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  

(05-02-2025 09:47 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(05-02-2025 08:38 AM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  The main difference, the federal workers are paid by the taxpayers, which doesn’t actually help grow anything.

Plus, some of those workers are now being hired in the private sector, boosting those numbers.

While it certainly won't be as much as the private sector helps things grow, it most definitely DOES help the economy grow to some extent.

Government jobs give the economy a floor by deficit spending. I’m not saying the jobs aren’t important or always wasteful, obviously some are just like overcrowded private companies with redundant jobs that aren’t needed.

The private sector actually provides sustainable long term growth if the right conditions are met. That’s where the actual innovation comes from…

We’re 40T in debt and on an unsustainable path. Government needs to be purged in every sector. Yes, in the short term it will hurt from job losses and dislocation, but it’s a prerequisite for the next boom.

Agree. It is distressing and concerning when too many Dem’s do not even recognize the looming disaster and fewer still offer viable alternatives or improvements over Trump’s plan.

(05-02-2025 11:09 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(05-02-2025 10:23 AM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  

(05-02-2025 09:47 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(05-02-2025 08:38 AM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  The main difference, the federal workers are paid by the taxpayers, which doesn’t actually help grow anything.

Plus, some of those workers are now being hired in the private sector, boosting those numbers.

While it certainly won't be as much as the private sector helps things grow, it most definitely DOES help the economy grow to some extent.

Government jobs give the economy a floor by deficit spending. I’m not saying the jobs aren’t important or always wasteful, obviously some are just like overcrowded private companies with redundant jobs that aren’t needed.

The private sector actually provides sustainable long term growth if the right conditions are met. That’s where the actual innovation comes from…

We’re 40T in debt and on an unsustainable path. Government needs to be purged in every sector. Yes, in the short term it will hurt from job losses and dislocation, but it’s a prerequisite for the next boom.

Agree. It is distressing and concerning when too many Dem’s do not even recognize the looming disaster and fewer still offer viable alternatives or improvements over Trump’s plan.

When the Democrats are in power…it’s “look, we’re still #1 in the world” and will ignore better historical growth to support their guy.

The truth is we haven’t had truly good growth since the 90s. We had steady growth after the .com bubble, then the great bust of 2008 thanks to Carter/Clinton for coercing bad loans into banks.

Obama, slow recovery, small but steady growth. Virtually the same under Trump 1.0 - but real wages and stock market were way up…consumer confidence high.

Then COVID. Government spending has gone through the roof. Both parties now don’t care at all about the debt. GOP does more but realizes it can’t cut because Dems will politically destroy them.

Trump 2.0 has a choice to make…spend the next few years resetting global trade (short term pain), reforming entitlements (short term political pain), cutting government…then enacting legislation that greatly reduces tax burden on average people. It’s my view that the country needs a recession to reset interest rates, inflation plummets, countries are willing to work with the US on trade whether that’s bilateral or multilateral.

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