(04-28-2025 05:05 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

"Mi Mejico Lindo!" Yeah, right! If they're so enamored with Mejico why'd they leave. They're just like Californios who leave the state because it sucks.


They can take that flag and stick it up their ying-yang complete with the flag pole...and my father agrees from where he's at. How he use to hate people from Mexico saying Mi Mejico Lindo, and he was an immigrant from there too. He came over before immigration laws were so stringent but was a patriotic American after that all his life. He became a US citizen and never broke the law. Fact is that he would tell his boys, "if you ever call me from jail, I ain't coming for you." LOL

His only fault was he was a Democrat and a big union man, but heck, you can't win them all.

(04-28-2025 01:17 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(04-28-2025 01:12 PM)fsquid Wrote:  what the hell did she do to her lips?

Rachel Morin? Odd thing to say. She's dead. Why does that matter at all?

well sorry for that but damn why she do that to her lips.

(04-28-2025 02:10 PM)fsquid Wrote:  

(04-28-2025 01:17 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(04-28-2025 01:12 PM)fsquid Wrote:  what the hell did she do to her lips?

Rachel Morin? Odd thing to say. She's dead. Why does that matter at all?

well sorry for that but damn why she do that to her lips.

well, you could ask her, except that a Biden* illegal raped and killed her.

(04-26-2025 06:00 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(04-26-2025 04:48 PM)BlueDragon Wrote:  

(04-26-2025 04:43 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(04-26-2025 01:59 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  After your side didn't follow the Constitution for four friggin' years, Elvis! Your side's hypocrisy is so blatantly obvious.

The democrats did follow the constitution, but you obviously think they didn’t. So if you are mad at the democrats for not following the constitution, why would you cheer Trump on for not following the constitution and ignoring the Supreme Court? Why would you support doing the thing that you claim was terrible when the democrats supposedly did it?

I’ll give you a hint, it’s because MAGA is a cult.

I will give you a hint illegals are NOT US CITIZENS therefore should not be afforded Constitutional rights. It’s that simple

There is no debate they are law breaking offenders who have no right to be here

The only way I would ever care that they received their legalese due process if it attorneys and judges did the work for free. All pro bono

Then let’s see if that law stands

Now you are just lying. SCOTUS has said repeatedly anyone in the US has the right to due process, no matter their immigration status.

So you liberal squirrel brains let these 20,000,000 illegal aliens into the country and now want us to pay to provide them a lawyer?

If I thought you were an honest debater here I would ask you if you think this is even possible. Which it is not.

This is a planned ruination of America. The very leftist screaming CONSTITUTION! now are the very people who are actively seeking its destruction. Cloward & Piven are proud of you communist.

Elvis is glad to argue for the overwhelming of the system. The overrunning of America not by soldiers but by invaders demanding to be afforded all the full rights of citizens. Will we commit national suicide to accommodate anyone and everyone who wants a judge and jury? I hope not.

(04-28-2025 02:34 PM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(04-26-2025 06:00 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(04-26-2025 04:48 PM)BlueDragon Wrote:  

(04-26-2025 04:43 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(04-26-2025 01:59 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  After your side didn't follow the Constitution for four friggin' years, Elvis! Your side's hypocrisy is so blatantly obvious.

The democrats did follow the constitution, but you obviously think they didn’t. So if you are mad at the democrats for not following the constitution, why would you cheer Trump on for not following the constitution and ignoring the Supreme Court? Why would you support doing the thing that you claim was terrible when the democrats supposedly did it?

I’ll give you a hint, it’s because MAGA is a cult.

I will give you a hint illegals are NOT US CITIZENS therefore should not be afforded Constitutional rights. It’s that simple

There is no debate they are law breaking offenders who have no right to be here

The only way I would ever care that they received their legalese due process if it attorneys and judges did the work for free. All pro bono

Then let’s see if that law stands

Now you are just lying. SCOTUS has said repeatedly anyone in the US has the right to due process, no matter their immigration status.

So you liberal squirrel brains let these 20,000,000 illegal aliens into the country and now want us to pay to provide them a lawyer?

If I thought you were an honest debater here I would ask you if you think this is even possible. Which it is not.

This is a planned ruination of America. The very leftist screaming CONSTITUTION! now are the very people who are actively seeking its destruction. Cloward & Piven are proud of you communist.

Elvis is glad to argue for the overwhelming of the system. The overrunning of America not by soldiers but by invaders demanding to be afforded all the full rights of citizens. Will we commit national suicide to accommodate anyone and everyone who wants a judge and jury? I hope not.

Exactly. This invasion is welcomed and championed by the left all in the pursuit of absolute power. Those who don't see that are either naive, purposely obtuse, complicit, or even actively taking part in it.

(04-28-2025 02:17 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(04-28-2025 02:10 PM)fsquid Wrote:  

(04-28-2025 01:17 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(04-28-2025 01:12 PM)fsquid Wrote:  what the hell did she do to her lips?

Rachel Morin? Odd thing to say. She's dead. Why does that matter at all?

well sorry for that but damn why she do that to her lips.

well, you could ask her, except that a Biden* illegal raped and killed her.

put your kids in martial arts.

(04-28-2025 02:50 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  

(04-28-2025 02:34 PM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(04-26-2025 06:00 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(04-26-2025 04:48 PM)BlueDragon Wrote:  

(04-26-2025 04:43 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  The democrats did follow the constitution, but you obviously think they didn’t. So if you are mad at the democrats for not following the constitution, why would you cheer Trump on for not following the constitution and ignoring the Supreme Court? Why would you support doing the thing that you claim was terrible when the democrats supposedly did it?

I’ll give you a hint, it’s because MAGA is a cult.

I will give you a hint illegals are NOT US CITIZENS therefore should not be afforded Constitutional rights. It’s that simple

There is no debate they are law breaking offenders who have no right to be here

The only way I would ever care that they received their legalese due process if it attorneys and judges did the work for free. All pro bono

Then let’s see if that law stands

Now you are just lying. SCOTUS has said repeatedly anyone in the US has the right to due process, no matter their immigration status.

So you liberal squirrel brains let these 20,000,000 illegal aliens into the country and now want us to pay to provide them a lawyer?

If I thought you were an honest debater here I would ask you if you think this is even possible. Which it is not.

This is a planned ruination of America. The very leftist screaming CONSTITUTION! now are the very people who are actively seeking its destruction. Cloward & Piven are proud of you communist.

Elvis is glad to argue for the overwhelming of the system. The overrunning of America not by soldiers but by invaders demanding to be afforded all the full rights of citizens. Will we commit national suicide to accommodate anyone and everyone who wants a judge and jury? I hope not.

Exactly. This invasion is welcomed and championed by the left all in the pursuit of absolute power. Those who don't see that are either naive, purposely obtuse, complicit, or even actively taking part in it.

Double exactly. The list on here is obvious. Can't see the forest for the trees. Too bad they wouldn't spend 2 seconds listening to Mark Levin. Or VDH.

Even legally, it's not cut and dried at all. Over the years, the courts have been all over the place, and the Supremes are just muddling it up a little more, so far.

Levin said yesterday we have a SC with 3 certified loons on it, two who have no clue who they are, two who are okay a good bit of the time, and two who are solid Thomas and Alito). LOL...from a Constitutionalist standpoint.

(04-28-2025 03:32 PM)fsquid Wrote:  

(04-28-2025 02:17 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(04-28-2025 02:10 PM)fsquid Wrote:  

(04-28-2025 01:17 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(04-28-2025 01:12 PM)fsquid Wrote:  what the hell did she do to her lips?

Rachel Morin? Odd thing to say. She's dead. Why does that matter at all?

well sorry for that but damn why she do that to her lips.

well, you could ask her, except that a Biden* illegal raped and killed her.

put your kids in martial arts.

Its posts like this that expose that you are one of these quack woke libs, you simply are too cowardly to admit it and stand up for what you believe in.

(04-29-2025 12:28 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(04-28-2025 02:50 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  

(04-28-2025 02:34 PM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(04-26-2025 06:00 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(04-26-2025 04:48 PM)BlueDragon Wrote:  I will give you a hint illegals are NOT US CITIZENS therefore should not be afforded Constitutional rights. It’s that simple

There is no debate they are law breaking offenders who have no right to be here

The only way I would ever care that they received their legalese due process if it attorneys and judges did the work for free. All pro bono

Then let’s see if that law stands

Now you are just lying. SCOTUS has said repeatedly anyone in the US has the right to due process, no matter their immigration status.

So you liberal squirrel brains let these 20,000,000 illegal aliens into the country and now want us to pay to provide them a lawyer?

If I thought you were an honest debater here I would ask you if you think this is even possible. Which it is not.

This is a planned ruination of America. The very leftist screaming CONSTITUTION! now are the very people who are actively seeking its destruction. Cloward & Piven are proud of you communist.

Elvis is glad to argue for the overwhelming of the system. The overrunning of America not by soldiers but by invaders demanding to be afforded all the full rights of citizens. Will we commit national suicide to accommodate anyone and everyone who wants a judge and jury? I hope not.

Exactly. This invasion is welcomed and championed by the left all in the pursuit of absolute power. Those who don't see that are either naive, purposely obtuse, complicit, or even actively taking part in it.

Double exactly. The list on here is obvious. Can't see the forest for the trees. Too bad they wouldn't spend 2 seconds listening to Mark Levin. Or VDH.

Even legally, it's not cut and dried at all. Over the years, the courts have been all over the place, and the Supremes are just muddling it up a little more, so far.

SCOTUS 9-0 (2x)
4th Cir 3-0 (2x)
At least 6 Federal District Courts in the last 2 months.

I'll be happy to cite corresponding findings on the proposition re: illegal aliens and due process going back 75 years.

Yep, quite the unsettled question.

Lolz.

Opinions vary, lawyer man. I'll go with Mark Levin over you every time, him being a constitutional lawyer and all, with his own successful TV show.

And "all over the place" obviously doesn't mean just 9-0 on the last one or two specific, narrow rulings. Levin is talking about the last 100 years or so, and he cited court decisions, as well.

You claim the last 75 years have been consistent on due process for illegal aliens. Levin very clearly said no, and gave examples.

Over the last couple of weeks, I have come to the idea that if you didn't come here through due process, then no way in hell does an illegal criminal alien deserve due process on the way out. That's not justice. That's suicide. For our country and our culture.

(04-29-2025 04:45 AM)TripleA Wrote:  Opinions vary, lawyer man. I'll go with Mark Levin over you every time, him being a constitutional lawyer and all, with his own successful TV show.

And "all over the place" obviously doesn't mean just 9-0 on the last one or two specific, narrow rulings. Levin is talking about the last 100 years or so, and he cited court decisions, as well.

You claim the last 75 years have been consistent on due process for illegal aliens. Levin very clearly said no, and gave examples.

Over the last couple of weeks, I have come to the idea that if you didn't come here through due process, then no way in hell does an illegal criminal alien deserve due process on the way out. That's not justice. That's suicide. For our country and our culture.

How would you know they are illegal and a criminal without due process?

(04-29-2025 07:34 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(04-29-2025 04:45 AM)TripleA Wrote:  Opinions vary, lawyer man. I'll go with Mark Levin over you every time, him being a constitutional lawyer and all, with his own successful TV show.

And "all over the place" obviously doesn't mean just 9-0 on the last one or two specific, narrow rulings. Levin is talking about the last 100 years or so, and he cited court decisions, as well.

You claim the last 75 years have been consistent on due process for illegal aliens. Levin very clearly said no, and gave examples.

Over the last couple of weeks, I have come to the idea that if you didn't come here through due process, then no way in hell does an illegal criminal alien deserve due process on the way out. That's not justice. That's suicide. For our country and our culture.

How would you know they are illegal and a criminal without due process?

This person lied and gaslit more than any government official in American history.

(04-29-2025 04:45 AM)TripleA Wrote:  Opinions vary, lawyer man. I'll go with Mark Levin over you every time, him being a constitutional lawyer and all, with his own successful TV show.

And "all over the place" obviously doesn't mean just 9-0 on the last one or two specific, narrow rulings. Levin is talking about the last 100 years or so, and he cited court decisions, as well.

You claim the last 75 years have been consistent on due process for illegal aliens. Levin very clearly said no, and gave examples.

Over the last couple of weeks, I have come to the idea that if you didn't come here through due process, then [b]no way in hell does an illegal criminal alien deserve due process on the way out[/]. That's not justice. That's suicide. For our country and our culture.

Then cite him directly. Or just give broadass shallow hosanna.

Here's a hint: as to the bolded, how exactly does one arrive at the conclusory 'illegal criminal alien' *without* due process

Mull it over a bit there, champ.

As to even more broad application of your broad comment, maybe you need to call up Kendall County here. Lots of illegals enjoying due process in their misdemeanor trials Here.

The problem is you dont seem to understand to actually understand the concepts of due process and merely repeat it as a broad phrase without regard to the meaning or context. And latch on to some dude on TV screaming something about the phrase and latch onto that wo any further thought process.

In conclusion I'll be happy to consider the comments of your demigod Levin. Maybe give us a precise cite to this section that cuts against actual practice in immigration procedure for 75 years, and in criminal procedure for closer to 200 if actually as broad as you blather.

I'll be happy to give you the Krndall Court number so you can tell everyone there how wring they are and broadly say 'that's what Levin said'.

Later champ. Look forward to the specific Levin comment.

(04-29-2025 07:54 AM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  

(04-29-2025 07:34 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(04-29-2025 04:45 AM)TripleA Wrote:  Opinions vary, lawyer man. I'll go with Mark Levin over you every time, him being a constitutional lawyer and all, with his own successful TV show.

And "all over the place" obviously doesn't mean just 9-0 on the last one or two specific, narrow rulings. Levin is talking about the last 100 years or so, and he cited court decisions, as well.

You claim the last 75 years have been consistent on due process for illegal aliens. Levin very clearly said no, and gave examples.

Over the last couple of weeks, I have come to the idea that if you didn't come here through due process, then no way in hell does an illegal criminal alien deserve due process on the way out. That's not justice. That's suicide. For our country and our culture.

How would you know they are illegal and a criminal without due process?

This person lied and gaslit more than any government official in American history.

Yes, most likely correct. Does nothing with respect to the comment responded to, though. Except in the 'whadabout' manner, that is. And quite frankly, on a relative time basis, Ms Leavitt far surpasses the above.

Maybe in the same vein I should complain about the taste of Brussels sprouts in an equally germane retort.

(04-29-2025 09:40 AM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(04-29-2025 07:54 AM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  

(04-29-2025 07:34 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(04-29-2025 04:45 AM)TripleA Wrote:  Opinions vary, lawyer man. I'll go with Mark Levin over you every time, him being a constitutional lawyer and all, with his own successful TV show.

And "all over the place" obviously doesn't mean just 9-0 on the last one or two specific, narrow rulings. Levin is talking about the last 100 years or so, and he cited court decisions, as well.

You claim the last 75 years have been consistent on due process for illegal aliens. Levin very clearly said no, and gave examples.

Over the last couple of weeks, I have come to the idea that if you didn't come here through due process, then no way in hell does an illegal criminal alien deserve due process on the way out. That's not justice. That's suicide. For our country and our culture.

How would you know they are illegal and a criminal without due process?

This person lied and gaslit more than any government official in American history.

Yes, most likely correct. Does nothing with respect to the comment responded to, though. Except in the 'whadabout' manner, that is.

Maybe in the same vein I should complain about the taste of Brussels sprouts in an equally germane retort.

I accidentally put it in the wrong thread somehow. Not even sure how and I don't even remember which thread now. Someone said Trump was lying so this felt appropriate. So, it's to whoever said that in whatever thread that was.

(04-29-2025 09:40 AM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(04-29-2025 07:54 AM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  

(04-29-2025 07:34 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(04-29-2025 04:45 AM)TripleA Wrote:  Opinions vary, lawyer man. I'll go with Mark Levin over you every time, him being a constitutional lawyer and all, with his own successful TV show.

And "all over the place" obviously doesn't mean just 9-0 on the last one or two specific, narrow rulings. Levin is talking about the last 100 years or so, and he cited court decisions, as well.

You claim the last 75 years have been consistent on due process for illegal aliens. Levin very clearly said no, and gave examples.

Over the last couple of weeks, I have come to the idea that if you didn't come here through due process, then no way in hell does an illegal criminal alien deserve due process on the way out. That's not justice. That's suicide. For our country and our culture.

How would you know they are illegal and a criminal without due process?

This person lied and gaslit more than any government official in American history.

Yes, most likely correct. Does nothing with respect to the comment responded to, though. Except in the 'whadabout' manner, that is. And quite frankly, on a relative time basis, Ms Leavitt far surpasses the above.

Maybe in the same vein I should complain about the taste of Brussels sprouts in an equally germane retort.

All Brussels sprouts should be deported, immediately.

(04-29-2025 07:34 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(04-29-2025 04:45 AM)TripleA Wrote:  Opinions vary, lawyer man. I'll go with Mark Levin over you every time, him being a constitutional lawyer and all, with his own successful TV show.

And "all over the place" obviously doesn't mean just 9-0 on the last one or two specific, narrow rulings. Levin is talking about the last 100 years or so, and he cited court decisions, as well.

You claim the last 75 years have been consistent on due process for illegal aliens. Levin very clearly said no, and gave examples.

Over the last couple of weeks, I have come to the idea that if you didn't come here through due process, then no way in hell does an illegal criminal alien deserve due process on the way out. That's not justice. That's suicide. For our country and our culture.

How would you know they are illegal and a criminal without due process?

Are you really this ignorant?

Here let me help you out

1. Present a legal document

2. Speak English

3. Give me your physical address with your name and address

4. Show me your paperwork if you are legal

There are other ways as well

But, to your point do we really know that grass is green unless we have due process

Clown mentality as a lackey attempting to carry water for the masters

(04-29-2025 10:13 AM)BlueDragon Wrote:  

(04-29-2025 07:34 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(04-29-2025 04:45 AM)TripleA Wrote:  Opinions vary, lawyer man. I'll go with Mark Levin over you every time, him being a constitutional lawyer and all, with his own successful TV show.

And "all over the place" obviously doesn't mean just 9-0 on the last one or two specific, narrow rulings. Levin is talking about the last 100 years or so, and he cited court decisions, as well.

You claim the last 75 years have been consistent on due process for illegal aliens. Levin very clearly said no, and gave examples.

Over the last couple of weeks, I have come to the idea that if you didn't come here through due process, then no way in hell does an illegal criminal alien deserve due process on the way out. That's not justice. That's suicide. For our country and our culture.

How would you know they are illegal and a criminal without due process?

Are you really this ignorant?

Here let me help you out

1. Present a legal document

2. Speak English

3. Give me your physical address with your name and address

4. Show me your paperwork if you are legal

There are other ways as well

But, to your point do we really know that grass is green unless we have due process

Clown mentality as a lackey attempting to carry water for the masters

Now the right is a full proponent of the 'show me your papers' state. Cool cool.

President Trump declare martial law to circumvent activist Judges and remove the Illegals.

Let these folks apply and go through DUE PROCESS to actually become a legal citizen


We don’t need millions of illegals no one can hire legally to live in the shadows and bankrupt our social services