(04-26-2025 12:02 PM)TripleA Wrote: (04-26-2025 11:15 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote: (04-26-2025 09:46 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote: Unless the 14th Amendment is modified or repealed (neither of which I see happening), I'm not sure how you can eliminate birthright citizenship for those born here to illegal parents. What I think is doable and consistent with the 14th Amendment is to remove any right conveyed to the parents to remain in the USA with their child. You're illegal, you have a baby on USA soil, the baby can stay but you can't. Your choices are to take the baby with you when you are deported or to make an arrangement with someone who is legally entitled to be in the states to take and raise your child. If you have relatives here legally, you will very likely choose the second aklternative, otherwise you choose the first.
They deported a 2 year old US citizen this week by not allowing the mother communication to get them to their appointed custodian.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/two-yea...%20States.
That's a bit misleading there, Elvis. The mother, who was being deported, and has legal custody of the little girl, requested that the girl go with her to Honduras. The girl is also able to re-enter the US whenever she wants.
Quote:V.M.L. was apprehended by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement on Tuesday with her mother, Jenny Carolina Lopez Villela, and older sister when Villela attended a routine appointment at its New Orleans office, according to a filing by Trish Mack, who said the infant's father asked her to act as the child's custodian.
According to Mack, when V.M.L.'s father briefly spoke to Villela, he could hear her and the children crying. During that time, according to a court document, he reminded her that their daughter was a U.S. citizen "and could not be deported."
However, prosecutors said Villela, who has legal custody, told ICE that she wanted to retain custody of the girl and have her go with her to Honduras. They said the man claiming to be V.M.L.'s father had not presented himself to ICE despite requests to do so.
"It is therefore in V.M.L.’s best interest that she remain in the lawful custody of her mother," Trump administration officials said in a filing on Friday. "Further, V.M.L. is not at risk of irreparable harm because she is a U.S. citizen."
V.M.L. is not prohibited from entering the U.S., prosecutors added.
They get to try and prove it in court :
“ The Government contends that this
Case 1:25-cv-00550-TAD-JPM Document 8 Filed 04/25/25 Page 2 of 2 PageID #: 88
is all okay because the mother wishes that the child be deported with her. See ECF
No. 5-1. But the Court doesn’t know that. Seeking the path of least resistance, the
Court called counsel for the Government at 12:19 p.m. CST, so that we could speak
with VML’s mother and survey her consent and custodial rights. The Court was
independently aware at the time that the plane, tail number N570TA, was above the
Gulf of America. The Court was then called back by counsel for the Government at
1:06 p.m. CST, informing the Court that a call with VML’s mother would not be
possible, because she (and presumably VML) had just been released in Honduras. In
the interest of dispelling our strong suspicion that the Government just deported a
U.S. citizen with no meaningful process,
IT IS ORDERED that the matter be set for hearing at 9:00 a.m. on May 16,
2025, at the Monroe Federal Courthouse, 201 Jackson St, Monroe, LA, 71201.”