(04-18-2025 08:37 PM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(04-18-2025 08:26 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(04-18-2025 08:15 PM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(04-18-2025 06:39 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(04-18-2025 05:52 PM)Gamenole Wrote:  Unfortunately, like most threads here, this one largely consists of cultish children happily splashing in their fetid orange cesspool and cheering each others antics on. Fortunately, a few posters occasionally suggest interesting potential solutions from the other side of the aisle. For instance -



I don't really disagree with you on these, I would definitely be open to both a limited due process for illegal aliens and revised rules for modern conflicts with bad actors who are not nation-states. But unless and until these changes are made by act of Congress or ruling of the Supreme Court, the law is the law. And it must be followed.

3A is on the right track. There *already* is very relaxed due process in the initial determination of being illegal aliens. *And* in the insto-presto deportation orders that can be availed.

ThreeIfByLightning already illuminated this in the Expedited Removal Hearing process. But, the laxity of that is being expanded from near the border to literally all over the nation.

The funny thing is the call here that 'illegal aliens shouldnt have any rights, so no due process'. The interesting thing is that the authors of the statements dont seem to grasp that the due process should be inherent in the *determination* of the status.

In short, let me retranslate these authors' claims to something more identifiable. "Guilty murderers shouldnt be afforded due process". This 'illegal aliens shuoldnt enjoy due process' crapola I have heard literally 5 times in 2 hours on Fox today. its simply stupid as fk. Again, if you understand how fking stupid "Guilty murderers shouldnt be afforded due process" is, then perhaps apply that to the idiot level phrase that is being bandied about re: illegal aliens and due process.

I guess somehow if a citizen is picked up and jailed by ICE (which just happened), they should enjoy the right to prove otherwise. If an illegal alien is picked up, nope. The war phrase is just fking retarded.

Let a layman explain it to Clarence Darrow. A person crosses our border illegally purposely to avoid the authorities and later is arrested for criminal behavior. That person is then deported by immigration officials. That person has gotten all the due process deserved under the law. And that is exactly what we have here.

Nope. And nope. But please try some more of your magic fact changing machine schtick.

Quote:They broke the law. They knew they were breaking the law. They should suffer the consequences of a bad decision. Not the tax payers who will foot the bill to give ilegals their due process before being deported.

Again, you forget, with respect to Abrego- Garcia:

A court ordered a do not deport.

That trumps the low fact, low 'make **** up on the fly' rhetoric that populates the paragraph you post above. More than makes up for the drivel above. Bummer.

You do seem to hitch your wagon to some real winners. This bullchit is just the latest. Another in the long line of Clarence misfortunate blunders tripped into at full gallop. Jack Smith. Latisha James. Fat Fanni. SMH.

You and this judge, tilting at windmills.

Me, this judge, Judge Xanis (3x), 4th Cir 3-0 (2x), and SCOTUS 9-0 (twice).

Quite the tilting at windmills.

(04-18-2025 08:42 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(04-18-2025 08:37 PM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(04-18-2025 08:26 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(04-18-2025 08:15 PM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(04-18-2025 06:39 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  3A is on the right track. There *already* is very relaxed due process in the initial determination of being illegal aliens. *And* in the insto-presto deportation orders that can be availed.

ThreeIfByLightning already illuminated this in the Expedited Removal Hearing process. But, the laxity of that is being expanded from near the border to literally all over the nation.

The funny thing is the call here that 'illegal aliens shouldnt have any rights, so no due process'. The interesting thing is that the authors of the statements dont seem to grasp that the due process should be inherent in the *determination* of the status.

In short, let me retranslate these authors' claims to something more identifiable. "Guilty murderers shouldnt be afforded due process". This 'illegal aliens shuoldnt enjoy due process' crapola I have heard literally 5 times in 2 hours on Fox today. its simply stupid as fk. Again, if you understand how fking stupid "Guilty murderers shouldnt be afforded due process" is, then perhaps apply that to the idiot level phrase that is being bandied about re: illegal aliens and due process.

I guess somehow if a citizen is picked up and jailed by ICE (which just happened), they should enjoy the right to prove otherwise. If an illegal alien is picked up, nope. The war phrase is just fking retarded.

Let a layman explain it to Clarence Darrow. A person crosses our border illegally purposely to avoid the authorities and later is arrested for criminal behavior. That person is then deported by immigration officials. That person has gotten all the due process deserved under the law. And that is exactly what we have here.

Nope. And nope. But please try some more of your magic fact changing machine schtick.

Quote:They broke the law. They knew they were breaking the law. They should suffer the consequences of a bad decision. Not the tax payers who will foot the bill to give ilegals their due process before being deported.

Again, you forget, with respect to Abrego- Garcia:

A court ordered a do not deport.

That trumps the low fact, low 'make **** up on the fly' rhetoric that populates the paragraph you post above. More than makes up for the drivel above. Bummer.

You do seem to hitch your wagon to some real winners. This bullchit is just the latest. Another in the long line of Clarence misfortunate blunders tripped into at full gallop. Jack Smith. Latisha James. Fat Fanni. SMH.

You and this judge, tilting at windmills.

Me, this judge, Judge Xanis (3x), 4th Cir 3-0 (2x), and SCOTUS 9-0 (twice).

Quite the tilting at windmills.

Gone

Losers

Good Lord…

(04-18-2025 08:22 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(04-18-2025 08:17 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Garcia is a member of MS-13. Adjudicated on that point twice in court.

MS-13 is a terrorist organization. Terrorists don't get due process rights.

As I said many pages ago, ask the 9/11 mastermind who has been sitting in Gitmo for 20+ years.

When on US soil they do, sparkles. Boudemienne v Bush, UsSupCt (2008)

Oopsie.

Want to try again with dumb*** and false rhetoric?

habeus. and thats all. or do you want to blurt some other stupidity out and go 0-148 this morning?

Supreme Court temporarily blocks deportations the administration claims are justified under the Alien Enemies Act, 7-2 -

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/poli...171290007/

About time to start shooting all these illegals that Biden and Kumswala allowed in. Make them dig a mass grave first though

(04-18-2025 05:34 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  

One would think that with all the resources of the federal government that they would do a much better job photoshopping MS13 on his knuckles. This admin is even incompetent at being evil.

(04-19-2025 10:05 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(04-18-2025 05:34 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  

One would think that with all the resources of the federal government that they would do a much better job photoshopping MS13 on his knuckles. This admin is even incompetent at being evil.

hey dumb***, if you would read this forum instead of immedaitely posting the talking points and insta-swallowing the taint, you would know what a fool you look like right now.

Somebody tell doofus that they superimposed the translation above the actual tattoos.

Btw, as an aside, Bukele did have Garcia moved to a lesser prison.

(04-19-2025 10:05 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(04-18-2025 05:34 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  

One would think that with all the resources of the federal government that they would do a much better job photoshopping MS13 on his knuckles. This admin is even incompetent at being evil.

I’m sure that thug has photoshopped those knuckles on some victims faces

Satan has tainted their vision where they don't see what's in front of their eyes. All they know is what they WANT to know, who cares about anyone else. My way or the highway. They're not very smart and a law degree doesn't prove that, a law degree just shows that they could read law books and make their own judgments where a LITTLE commons sense would have sufficed.

There's so much evidence that proves that Garcia is MS13 and yet satan fades their vision. I would hate to be them when they kick the bucket. At least when they do they can lawyer up their case with Ol' Beelzebub.

(04-19-2025 10:17 AM)BlueDragon Wrote:  

(04-19-2025 10:05 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(04-18-2025 05:34 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  

One would think that with all the resources of the federal government that they would do a much better job photoshopping MS13 on his knuckles. This admin is even incompetent at being evil.

I’m sure that thug has photoshopped those knuckles on some victims faces

His wife for one....

(04-19-2025 10:37 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(04-19-2025 10:17 AM)BlueDragon Wrote:  

(04-19-2025 10:05 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(04-18-2025 05:34 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  

One would think that with all the resources of the federal government that they would do a much better job photoshopping MS13 on his knuckles. This admin is even incompetent at being evil.

I’m sure that thug has photoshopped those knuckles on some victims faces

His wife for one....

When asked in an interview about one of the instances where she got a restraining order, she was asked if she feared for her life, and she refused to answer.

(04-19-2025 10:05 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(04-18-2025 05:34 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  

One would think that with all the resources of the federal government that they would do a much better job photoshopping MS13 on his knuckles. This admin is even incompetent at being evil.

Pretty sad when the most powerful man in the world resorts to bad photoshopping to peddle his lies. The subject is plenty unsavory without making things up, but that's how pathological liars are. They lie for the sake of lies when the truth would be easier.

America is back.

Dems commiting suicide.

Please keep it up

(04-19-2025 10:52 AM)Gamenole Wrote:  

(04-19-2025 10:05 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(04-18-2025 05:34 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  

One would think that with all the resources of the federal government that they would do a much better job photoshopping MS13 on his knuckles. This admin is even incompetent at being evil.

Pretty sad when the most powerful man in the world resorts to bad photoshopping to peddle his lies. The subject is plenty unsavory without making things up, but that's how pathological liars are. They lie for the sake of lies when the truth would be easier.

Good grief, dude. There are full frame photos of Garcia where you can see the tattoos on his fingers.

(04-19-2025 10:56 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(04-19-2025 10:52 AM)Gamenole Wrote:  

(04-19-2025 10:05 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(04-18-2025 05:34 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  

One would think that with all the resources of the federal government that they would do a much better job photoshopping MS13 on his knuckles. This admin is even incompetent at being evil.

Pretty sad when the most powerful man in the world resorts to bad photoshopping to peddle his lies. The subject is plenty unsavory without making things up, but that's how pathological liars are. They lie for the sake of lies when the truth would be easier.

Good grief, dude. There are full frame photos of Garcia where you can see the tattoos on his fingers.

Certainly, he has finger tattoos and it has been alleged that some of those images represent MS 13 membership. But if he really has "M S 1 3" inked onto his hand, why haven't the administration attorneys pointed that out in court as evidence of his membership instead of relying on tattoo interpretation and a confidential informant?

Hmmm think we've seen this before...

I love morons that are so eat up with TDS. Such retarded dumb fuks but so entertaining. Just hope they keep it going with JDVDS for the following 8 years