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RFK Jr. says Deep State ‘is real,’ called FDA employees ‘sock puppet’ of industry
HHS Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr.’s visit to the FDA Friday was supposed to introduce him as a trusted leader to agency employees. It did anything but.
Over the course of 40 minutes, Kennedy, in largely off-the-cuff remarks, asserted that the “Deep State” is real, referenced past CIA experiments on human mind control and accused the employees he was speaking to of becoming a “sock puppet” of the industries they regulate.
Because of my family’s commitment to these issues, I spent 200 hours at Wassaic Home for the Retarded when I was in high school,” Kennedy said, in a reference to the Wassaic State School for the Mentally Retarded in Wassaic, New York. “So I was seeing people with intellectual disabilities all the time. I never saw anybody with autism.”
The remark jolted several FDA employees in the audience, who misheard the reference and thought he was making a derogatory remark about people with intellectual disabilities, according to two employees granted anonymity for fear of retaliation.
By the end of the event, billed as a welcome from the new commissioner, Marty Makary, several FDA staffers had walked out of the rooms where the speech was being broadcast at the agency’s headquarters in White Oak, Maryland, according to two employees granted anonymity for fear of retaliation.
“President Trump always talks about the Deep State, and the media, you know, disparages him and says that he’s paranoid,” Kennedy said, according to a transcript and audio of his remarks obtained by POLITICO. “But the Deep State is real. And it’s not, you know, just George Soros and Bill Gates and a bunch of nefarious individuals sitting together in a room and plotting the, you know, the destruction of humanity.”
He said “every institution that’s created by human beings” is inevitably captured by powerful interests, and urged FDA employees to take advantage of a four-year period under his leadership where he vowed that the Department of Health and Human Services would not be subjected to undue influence and would listen to “dissidents.”
“All of us are subject to those gravities of agency capture,” Kennedy said, challenging the audience to “be conscious of that gravity because it’s going to be pulling you every single day of your career. We want to break away from this so we can make our kids healthy.”
The speech alarmed and disheartened FDA staffers reeling from the mass firings carried out across the department just a week ago, according to several FDA staffers who heard or read his remarks. The speech was broadcast from a private room to agency employees who gathered in two of the largest spaces at the agency — the so-called Great Room and an atrium adjoining two central buildings on the FDA’s campus.
In a statement, HHS spokesperson Andrew Nixon said Kennedy was “telling the truth that many Americans already know: for too long, the FDA has been captured by the very industries it is supposed to regulate.”
https://www.politico.com/news/2025/04/11...e-00286826
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RE: RFK Jr. says Deep State ‘is real,’ called FDA employees ‘sock puppet’ of industry
Sounds like some of the employees didn't like the truth. Or misheard him.
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RE: RFK Jr. says Deep State ‘is real,’ called FDA employees ‘sock puppet’ of industry
Or they flat out don't give a sh1t. They just want the Eagle to fly on the 15th and last day of the month, courtesy of the taxes applied to the vast majority of US citizens.
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RE: RFK Jr. says Deep State ‘is real,’ called FDA employees ‘sock puppet’ of industry
So the answer to the correct statement that all of these agencies are captured by corrupt corporate entities is to gut and get rid of said agencies and trust those corrupt corporate entities to police themselves? Sounds perfectly retarded. At least when the right used to argue that corporations were good and should be trusted more than government you could make a semi coherent argument as to why they should be unregulated. It was still stupid, but at least it wasn't a complete logical facile on its face. Trying to argue these corrupt corporations own the regulators so we need to get rid of the regulators completely so the corrupt corporations have no oversight at all is an insult to retards. Retards wouldn't come up with an argument that retarded.
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RE: RFK Jr. says Deep State ‘is real,’ called FDA employees ‘sock puppet’ of industry
(04-12-2025 10:41 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote: So the answer to the correct statement that all of these agencies are captured by corrupt corporate entities is to gut and get rid of said agencies and trust those corrupt corporate entities to police themselves? Sounds perfectly retarded. At least when the right used to argue that corporations were good and should be trusted more than government you could make a semi coherent argument as to why they should be unregulated. It was still stupid, but at least it wasn't a complete logical facile on its face. Trying to argue these corrupt corporations own the regulators so we need to get rid of the regulators completely so the corrupt corporations have no oversight at all is an insult to retards. Retards wouldn't come up with an argument that retarded.
Wtf frick are you blathering about. Try that again in American english. Paragraphs help. Be concise.
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RE: RFK Jr. says Deep State ‘is real,’ called FDA employees ‘sock puppet’ of industry
(04-12-2025 10:52 AM)shere khan Wrote: (04-12-2025 10:41 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote: So the answer to the correct statement that all of these agencies are captured by corrupt corporate entities is to gut and get rid of said agencies and trust those corrupt corporate entities to police themselves? Sounds perfectly retarded. At least when the right used to argue that corporations were good and should be trusted more than government you could make a semi coherent argument as to why they should be unregulated. It was still stupid, but at least it wasn't a complete logical facile on its face. Trying to argue these corrupt corporations own the regulators so we need to get rid of the regulators completely so the corrupt corporations have no oversight at all is an insult to retards. Retards wouldn't come up with an argument that retarded.
Wtf frick are you blathering about. Try that again in American english. Paragraphs help. Be concise.
How are you more of a retard that I thought? 6 sentences are too much for you? Do you know how to tie your shoes? How did you manage to even turn on your computer being this retarded? How do you avoid walking into oncoming traffic daily?
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RE: RFK Jr. says Deep State ‘is real,’ called FDA employees ‘sock puppet’ of industry
(04-12-2025 10:55 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote: (04-12-2025 10:52 AM)shere khan Wrote: (04-12-2025 10:41 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote: So the answer to the correct statement that all of these agencies are captured by corrupt corporate entities is to gut and get rid of said agencies and trust those corrupt corporate entities to police themselves? Sounds perfectly retarded. At least when the right used to argue that corporations were good and should be trusted more than government you could make a semi coherent argument as to why they should be unregulated. It was still stupid, but at least it wasn't a complete logical facile on its face. Trying to argue these corrupt corporations own the regulators so we need to get rid of the regulators completely so the corrupt corporations have no oversight at all is an insult to retards. Retards wouldn't come up with an argument that retarded.
Wtf frick are you blathering about. Try that again in American english. Paragraphs help. Be concise.
How are you more of a retard that I thought? 6 sentences are too much for you? Do you know how to tie your shoes? How did you manage to even turn on your computer being this retarded? How do you avoid walking into oncoming traffic daily?
Ive got a minimum 50 iq points on you. Youve proven it over and over. That rambling nonsense was impossible to read. Hell stink is easier to read.
Pay your bills bernie bro.
I think your basic premise was if we fire the corrupt who will monitor the corrupt. One sentence.
A: you replace them with non corrupt
FFS
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RE: RFK Jr. says Deep State ‘is real,’ called FDA employees ‘sock puppet’ of industry
"That rambling nonsense was impossible to read. Hell stink is easier to read." Shere
Now, that's saying a lot. I don't even have Stink on ignore but since I can't read much of what he posts I just ignore it. I think he needs to drop the catnip.
I saw a cat after catnip and I think some of the people on video look like they're on it. Wow.
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RE: RFK Jr. says Deep State ‘is real,’ called FDA employees ‘sock puppet’ of industry
FDA is the most corrupt organization on the entire planet.... food companies pay them to approve poison, drug companies pay them to approve more poison to treat the poison... creating a never ending cycle of unhealthy people and kickbacks.
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RE: RFK Jr. says Deep State ‘is real,’ called FDA employees ‘sock puppet’ of industry
(04-12-2025 10:41 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote: So the answer to the correct statement that all of these agencies are captured by corrupt corporate entities is to gut and get rid of said agencies and trust those corrupt corporate entities to police themselves? Sounds perfectly retarded. At least when the right used to argue that corporations were good and should be trusted more than government you could make a semi coherent argument as to why they should be unregulated. It was still stupid, but at least it wasn't a complete logical facile on its face. Trying to argue these corrupt corporations own the regulators so we need to get rid of the regulators completely so the corrupt corporations have no oversight at all is an insult to retards. Retards wouldn't come up with an argument that retarded.
Companies are more trustworthy than the government. We all know exactly what companies want, profit.... thing is, we all know what government wants as well, profit, they just constantly lie and manipulate for it.
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RE: RFK Jr. says Deep State ‘is real,’ called FDA employees ‘sock puppet’ of industry
(04-12-2025 01:16 PM)memtigbb Wrote: (04-12-2025 10:41 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote: So the answer to the correct statement that all of these agencies are captured by corrupt corporate entities is to gut and get rid of said agencies and trust those corrupt corporate entities to police themselves? Sounds perfectly retarded. At least when the right used to argue that corporations were good and should be trusted more than government you could make a semi coherent argument as to why they should be unregulated. It was still stupid, but at least it wasn't a complete logical facile on its face. Trying to argue these corrupt corporations own the regulators so we need to get rid of the regulators completely so the corrupt corporations have no oversight at all is an insult to retards. Retards wouldn't come up with an argument that retarded.
Companies are more trustworthy than the government. We all know exactly what companies want, profit.... thing is, we all know what government wants as well, profit, they just constantly lie and manipulate for it.
I can go with this.
The idea that the food companies own the regulators so they can sell poison is just insane. The people saying that like RFK should really listen to how cuckoo nuts they sound. That is worse than the US really didn't land on the moon nonsense.
Why would food companies want to poison people? Are the people running food companies not human beings? Do they not know how litigous US society is?
Y'all just sound like flat out lunatics. You make TDSers look sane. The stuff they believe is ridiculous and stupid, but doesn't require a complete divorce from reality, only from facts.
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RE: RFK Jr. says Deep State ‘is real,’ called FDA employees ‘sock puppet’ of industry
(04-12-2025 01:30 PM)bullet Wrote: (04-12-2025 01:16 PM)memtigbb Wrote: (04-12-2025 10:41 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote: So the answer to the correct statement that all of these agencies are captured by corrupt corporate entities is to gut and get rid of said agencies and trust those corrupt corporate entities to police themselves? Sounds perfectly retarded. At least when the right used to argue that corporations were good and should be trusted more than government you could make a semi coherent argument as to why they should be unregulated. It was still stupid, but at least it wasn't a complete logical facile on its face. Trying to argue these corrupt corporations own the regulators so we need to get rid of the regulators completely so the corrupt corporations have no oversight at all is an insult to retards. Retards wouldn't come up with an argument that retarded.
Companies are more trustworthy than the government. We all know exactly what companies want, profit.... thing is, we all know what government wants as well, profit, they just constantly lie and manipulate for it.
I can go with this.
The idea that the food companies own the regulators so they can sell poison is just insane. The people saying that like RFK should really listen to how cuckoo nuts they sound. That is worse than the US really didn't land on the moon nonsense.
Why would food companies want to poison people? Are the people running food companies not human beings? Do they not know how litigous US society is?
Y'all just sound like flat out lunatics. You make TDSers look sane. The stuff they believe is ridiculous and stupid, but doesn't require a complete divorce from reality, only from facts.
Their goal isnt to poison people, their goal is to use the cheapest, easiest food ingredients, which essentially turns food into poison... they try to push CEREAL as a healthy breakfast. The fact the FDA goes along with it, is a real problem.... white bread is considered a healthy choice, read the ingredients for white bread and then learn about those ingredients... sure the food companies are all for it, it is profit... how does the FDA allow it? because they are paid to allow it.
There are places that have banned Subway from calling their "bread" bread, because the ingredients in their bread makes it NOT bread...
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RE: RFK Jr. says Deep State ‘is real,’ called FDA employees ‘sock puppet’ of industry
Their goal isn’t to intentionally poison folks. It’s to make their products last longer for consumption. This more opportunity to sell more and realize more profits.
When I was a kid bread and milk if not eaten lasted at most a week.
Well, fast forward to today and we see these same two products having a much longer expiration date.
Now, one could argue it’s the only way to feed a much larger population.
So, there is the positive.
The negatives are the chemicals used to aid in their sustainability.
As one who has persevered through cancer chemo and lengthy radiation treatments I am opposed to these chemicals.
My Oncologist explained it the most simple terms. If you consume chemicals your body doesn’t recognize it stores them as fat. Hence Diet soda is far worse than sugared soda. Both obviously shouldn’t be consumed is mass quantities. Once stored over long periods of time breakdown cell production hence cancerous because your body will over react with white cell overproduction.
This is why cancer is so prevalent today among other factors of course
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RE: RFK Jr. says Deep State ‘is real,’ called FDA employees ‘sock puppet’ of industry
(04-12-2025 04:33 PM)BlueDragon Wrote: Their goal isn’t to intentionally poison folks. It’s to make their products last longer for consumption. This more opportunity to sell more and realize more profits.
When I was a kid bread and milk if not eaten lasted at most a week.
Well, fast forward to today and we see these same two products having a much longer expiration date.
Now, one could argue it’s the only way to feed a much larger population.
So, there is the positive.
The negatives are the chemicals used to aid in their sustainability.
As one who has persevered through cancer chemo and lengthy radiation treatments I am opposed to these chemicals.
My Oncologist explained it the most simple terms. If you consume chemicals your body doesn’t recognize it stores them as fat. Hence Diet soda is far worse than sugared soda. Both obviously shouldn’t be consumed is mass quantities. Once stored over long periods of time breakdown cell production hence cancerous because your body will over react with white cell overproduction.
This is why cancer is so prevalent today among other factors of course
Genetics
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RE: RFK Jr. says Deep State ‘is real,’ called FDA employees ‘sock puppet’ of industry
(04-12-2025 04:33 PM)BlueDragon Wrote: Their goal isn’t to intentionally poison folks. It’s to make their products last longer for consumption. This more opportunity to sell more and realize more profits.
When I was a kid bread and milk if not eaten lasted at most a week.
Well, fast forward to today and we see these same two products having a much longer expiration date.
Now, one could argue it’s the only way to feed a much larger population.
So, there is the positive.
The negatives are the chemicals used to aid in their sustainability.
As one who has persevered through cancer chemo and lengthy radiation treatments I am opposed to these chemicals.
My Oncologist explained it the most simple terms. If you consume chemicals your body doesn’t recognize it stores them as fat. Hence Diet soda is far worse than sugared soda. Both obviously shouldn’t be consumed is mass quantities. Once stored over long periods of time breakdown cell production hence cancerous because your body will over react with white cell overproduction.
This is why cancer is so prevalent today among other factors of course
I've always believed in most cases there is a trigger that happens in our bodies when we get sick with some diseases and sickness. The chemicals in a lot of our food supply is the trigger that will start the clock ticking. After so many years of these chemicals the trigger is pull.
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RE: RFK Jr. says Deep State ‘is real,’ called FDA employees ‘sock puppet’ of industry
(04-12-2025 03:48 PM)memtigbb Wrote: (04-12-2025 01:30 PM)bullet Wrote: (04-12-2025 01:16 PM)memtigbb Wrote: (04-12-2025 10:41 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote: So the answer to the correct statement that all of these agencies are captured by corrupt corporate entities is to gut and get rid of said agencies and trust those corrupt corporate entities to police themselves? Sounds perfectly retarded. At least when the right used to argue that corporations were good and should be trusted more than government you could make a semi coherent argument as to why they should be unregulated. It was still stupid, but at least it wasn't a complete logical facile on its face. Trying to argue these corrupt corporations own the regulators so we need to get rid of the regulators completely so the corrupt corporations have no oversight at all is an insult to retards. Retards wouldn't come up with an argument that retarded.
Companies are more trustworthy than the government. We all know exactly what companies want, profit.... thing is, we all know what government wants as well, profit, they just constantly lie and manipulate for it.
I can go with this.
The idea that the food companies own the regulators so they can sell poison is just insane. The people saying that like RFK should really listen to how cuckoo nuts they sound. That is worse than the US really didn't land on the moon nonsense.
Why would food companies want to poison people? Are the people running food companies not human beings? Do they not know how litigous US society is?
Y'all just sound like flat out lunatics. You make TDSers look sane. The stuff they believe is ridiculous and stupid, but doesn't require a complete divorce from reality, only from facts.
Their goal isnt to poison people, their goal is to use the cheapest, easiest food ingredients, which essentially turns food into poison... they try to push CEREAL as a healthy breakfast. The fact the FDA goes along with it, is a real problem.... white bread is considered a healthy choice, read the ingredients for white bread and then learn about those ingredients... sure the food companies are all for it, it is profit... how does the FDA allow it? because they are paid to allow it.
There are places that have banned Subway from calling their "bread" bread, because the ingredients in their bread makes it NOT bread...
"There are places that have banned Subway from calling their "bread" bread, because the ingredients in their bread makes it NOT bread"
I didn't know about this or I forgot so I looked it up. Subway's bread has a sugar content of about 10 percent of the flour weight. Said it was more of a cake than a bread.
Which reminded me of some of the times I would go to Kroger for lunch and get a plate lunch. They would have corn bread wrapped up that you could buy. They had so much sugar in their corn bread it tasted like crap. I have never known anyone that puts sugar in corn bread. Something tells me it's a Northern thing but I'm not sure.
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RE: RFK Jr. says Deep State ‘is real,’ called FDA employees ‘sock puppet’ of industry
(04-12-2025 04:33 PM)BlueDragon Wrote: Their goal isn’t to intentionally poison folks. It’s to make their products last longer for consumption. This more opportunity to sell more and realize more profits.
When I was a kid bread and milk if not eaten lasted at most a week.
Well, fast forward to today and we see these same two products having a much longer expiration date.
Now, one could argue it’s the only way to feed a much larger population.
So, there is the positive.
The negatives are the chemicals used to aid in their sustainability.
As one who has persevered through cancer chemo and lengthy radiation treatments I am opposed to these chemicals.
My Oncologist explained it the most simple terms. If you consume chemicals your body doesn’t recognize it stores them as fat. Hence Diet soda is far worse than sugared soda. Both obviously shouldn’t be consumed is mass quantities. Once stored over long periods of time breakdown cell production hence cancerous because your body will over react with white cell overproduction.
This is why cancer is so prevalent today among other factors of course
Hence food labels, so you can make choices for yourself. Nothing in excess is good for you.
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RE: RFK Jr. says Deep State ‘is real,’ called FDA employees ‘sock puppet’ of industry
What RFK is actually quoted as saying is much more reasonable than the headlines. It is always a risk that regulators get captured by the regulated. I didn't see any quote where he accused the people he was talking to of being owned (in this particular speech to the employees), only that it was something to be wary of.
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