(03-25-2025 09:23 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(03-25-2025 08:34 AM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  I also have to wonder WHY anyone in the trump administration would have a reporter from The Atlantic in their contact list.

You honestly don't think this administration would leak information to a reporter...any reporter...regardless if the information was true or false?

I'm sure they have contact information for all the major reporters...if not for leaking use...for monitoring use.

This is not a serious administration. Everything they do should be questioned. After all, the right pretty much questioned everything from the Biden administration, right? So why would they now have ANY trust in the federal government just because it's run by Republicans?

If this information was leaked intentionally it was to make the Administration look bad and the leaker needs to be fired and possibly jailed. No way to unsend a text once it's read.

So you consider the last administration serious? An administration lead by whoever had access to the autopen.

(03-25-2025 10:42 AM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  

(03-25-2025 09:23 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(03-25-2025 08:34 AM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  I also have to wonder WHY anyone in the trump administration would have a reporter from The Atlantic in their contact list.

You honestly don't think this administration would leak information to a reporter...any reporter...regardless if the information was true or false?

I'm sure they have contact information for all the major reporters...if not for leaking use...for monitoring use.

This is not a serious administration. Everything they do should be questioned. After all, the right pretty much questioned everything from the Biden administration, right? So why would they now have ANY trust in the federal government just because it's run by Republicans?

If this information was leaked intentionally it was to make the Administration look bad and the leaker needs to be fired and possibly jailed. No way to unsend a text once it's read.

So you consider the last administration serious? An administration lead by whoever had access to the autopen.

I understand the 0'bummers are looking for another 'chef'...

(03-25-2025 09:36 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(03-25-2025 08:59 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  Using signal for this is discussion is off the reservation and likely illegal in several ways.

THIS!!!

And most of you are burying the lead...the issue here is not whether someone allowed the information to get to the reporter, either intentionally, or not.

THEE issue is that nearly every high ranking official in the trump administration was allegedly knowingly transferring sensitive information on a unsecure third-party application. The Defense Secretary, The Vice President, The Director of National Intelligence, The Treasury Secretary, The CIA Director, and The Secretary of State. They were all a part of this. And if you believe him, the actual president...no not elmo...WASN'T!

And the majority of the right in this thread.....

But sending classified emails to a private server kept in your home using personal phones then destroying all of this information is perfectly legal? Good to know.

If... Big if... The way it's described is exactly what happened it's completely unacceptable. No one should be defending the Trump administration here. It's an embarrassing own goal and the absolute last thing they needed. Now we've got a giant distraction from other things going on.

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There is a difference between something classified and a private conversation. The conversations Senators have with their staff etc. isn't considered "classified", but they damn sure don't want it exposed to the public. How hard is this to comprehend? This is the best thing they got? If I were being questioned, I would ask the Senators, "would you release your private conversations to the public?" Crickets.

(03-25-2025 10:51 AM)b2b Wrote:  If... Big if... The way it's described is exactly what happened it's completely unacceptable. No one should be defending the Trump administration here. It's an embarrassing own goal and the absolute last thing they needed. Now we've got a giant distraction from other things going on.

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lulz

Pdf_Elvis - "Using signal is probably against the law!"

*shows PDF Elvis where the Biden* administration authorized Signal*

Pdf_Elvis - "REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE"

/\ you are currently here.

yes, we want to know how one of the most vile and anti-Trump reporters got added to the signal chat. We're not certain at this point that he was, which could mean that he was sent the messages by someone else.

Again, I would advise to WAIT to find out what happened.

(03-25-2025 10:55 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(03-25-2025 10:51 AM)b2b Wrote:  If... Big if... The way it's described is exactly what happened it's completely unacceptable. No one should be defending the Trump administration here. It's an embarrassing own goal and the absolute last thing they needed. Now we've got a giant distraction from other things going on.

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lulz

Pdf_Elvis - "Using signal is probably against the law!"

*shows PDF Elvis where the Biden* administration authorized Signal*

Pdf_Elvis - "REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE"

/\ you are currently here.

yes, we want to know how one of the most vile and anti-Trump reporters got added to the signal chat. We're not certain at this point that he was, which could mean that he was sent the messages by someone else.

Again, I would advise to WAIT to find out what happened.

Like I said... Big if...
I've already said something seems fishy here.

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(03-24-2025 06:51 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

(03-24-2025 06:49 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Btw, these were not war plans. It was a discussion among the group about what to recommend to Trump.

Is this it? Personally, I was for firing whomever screwed up but this isn't as bad as the Demonics make it seem. With what they texted does not, repeat, DOES NOT include any war plans. If someone from the Demonic side can tell me what plans were said on the texts from what they texted then they have a case. Is it a screwup, yes, a major blunder, it could have been if they actually GAVE war plans but they didn't.

So, eat it Demonics, you're barking up a wrong tree.

(03-25-2025 11:02 AM)b2b Wrote:  

(03-25-2025 10:55 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(03-25-2025 10:51 AM)b2b Wrote:  If... Big if... The way it's described is exactly what happened it's completely unacceptable. No one should be defending the Trump administration here. It's an embarrassing own goal and the absolute last thing they needed. Now we've got a giant distraction from other things going on.

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lulz

Pdf_Elvis - "Using signal is probably against the law!"

*shows PDF Elvis where the Biden* administration authorized Signal*

Pdf_Elvis - "REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE"

/\ you are currently here.

yes, we want to know how one of the most vile and anti-Trump reporters got added to the signal chat. We're not certain at this point that he was, which could mean that he was sent the messages by someone else.

Again, I would advise to WAIT to find out what happened.

Like I said... Big if...
I've already said something seems fishy here.

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Signal has end to end encryption. Therefore:

1. Someone had to allow this d*ckbag into the encrypted conversation.

or

2. Some dickbag copied this d*ckbag on the conversation

Since the reporter is a d*ckbag and has shown before he can not be trusted with the truth, we need to wait to see what happened here. I find it hard to believe that this reporter also just happened to have signal, and that he was already in the CIA's list. But if he was, someone in the Biden* administration has some explaining to do.

It's a "chat" between cabinet members. If it is "classified" then the "journalist" should be arrested for exposing it publicly. Either it's classified or not. Obviously, it is not. It was a conversation. The operation has been completed. Don't these clowns have some Tesla stores to vandalize?

(03-25-2025 09:33 AM)maximus Wrote:  

(03-25-2025 08:31 AM)mlb Wrote:  My employer, whom is not in national defense, would reprimand and potentially fire someone for putting protected information into an unapproved system, even if the data was not exposed. I don't get why people are defending this stupidity. They should all be reprimanded at minimum. I don't care who you are, you broke the law. Be better.

My man, the docs and staff in all of your facilities SMS HIPAA data all day long

You might think they don't but they 100% do it. They should be using the HIPAA mobile app but they SMS.... guaranteed

We have reprimanded and actually fired one within the last 2 years over sending HIPAA protected data over SMS. There is a reason to use Epic Secure Chat.

(03-25-2025 09:53 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  We told you guys to wait until more info came out.

We're probably about to find out that someone in the Biden* administration set up the reporter into signal automatically.

Right...just like you did before crowing that Blinken was going to resign.

Take a seat.

(03-25-2025 11:07 AM)olliebaba Wrote:  

(03-24-2025 06:51 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

(03-24-2025 06:49 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Btw, these were not war plans. It was a discussion among the group about what to recommend to Trump.

Is this it? Personally, I was for firing whomever screwed up but this isn't as bad as the Demonics make it seem. With what they texted does not, repeat, DOES NOT include any war plans. If someone from the Demonic side can tell me what plans were said on the texts from what they texted then they have a case. Is it a screwup, yes, a major blunder, it could have been if they actually GAVE war plans but they didn't.

So, eat it Demonics, you're barking up a wrong tree.

I thought it was intentional day one

(03-25-2025 11:18 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(03-25-2025 09:53 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  We told you guys to wait until more info came out.

We're probably about to find out that someone in the Biden* administration set up the reporter into signal automatically.

Right...just like you did before crowing that Blinken was going to resign.

Take a seat.

You first, cupcake.

(03-25-2025 10:29 AM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  

(03-25-2025 10:23 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(03-25-2025 10:13 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(03-25-2025 09:54 AM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  

(03-25-2025 09:42 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  This you bro? That's what I was referring to.


And please tell me how/why some "staffer" would be on or have access to a chat with only top-level trump brass?

If that's what happened, pretty much tells you how incompetent this whole thing was.

You know what? My answer is f*ck if I know.

I don't work in the government. So you are asking the wrong person.

But you think it makes you look damn sharp on an internet chat board which is clearly the highlight of your life.

All I know is I'm glad Trump is in charge and not the corrupt morons you advocate.

Executive Assistants for corporate executives these days are often executives themselves. They have access to nearly everything and make sure things get done. So a staff person could be setting this stuff up.

Signal is one device at a time, it turns off your other device when you register a new one. So he would have had to physically hand the device to an admin for that to happen.


I’m really enjoying you guys attempting to rationalize the fact that the cabinet are wildly incompetent morons.


Elect a clown, get the circus.

You FINALLY admitted Biden was a clown. Congratulations!

Let's throw a party, everybody! Elvi Boy finally admitted Biden was a clown!

Oh, wait. You were talking about Trump. Nevermind. *takes down party decorations*

Sure...okay...Biden was a clown. How does that help your argument, when the current administration is doing things this poorly...and by most measures worse?

Hint, it doesn't.

Wasn't trump supposed to be better?

I don't see how this information wouldn't be classified. Goldberg could have given the enemy a 2 hour notice that they were about to have incoming missiles. That seems like a total BS line by the administration.

Again, I hope they've learned to not put **** in any unapproved gov't communication systems in the future.

(03-24-2025 06:51 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

(03-24-2025 06:49 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Btw, these were not war plans. It was a discussion among the group about what to recommend to Trump.

So that's it? Is that really all that was said?

(03-25-2025 10:42 AM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  

(03-25-2025 09:23 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(03-25-2025 08:34 AM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  I also have to wonder WHY anyone in the trump administration would have a reporter from The Atlantic in their contact list.

You honestly don't think this administration would leak information to a reporter...any reporter...regardless if the information was true or false?

I'm sure they have contact information for all the major reporters...if not for leaking use...for monitoring use.

This is not a serious administration. Everything they do should be questioned. After all, the right pretty much questioned everything from the Biden administration, right? So why would they now have ANY trust in the federal government just because it's run by Republicans?

If this information was leaked intentionally it was to make the Administration look bad and the leaker needs to be fired and possibly jailed. No way to unsend a text once it's read.

So you consider the last administration serious? An administration lead by whoever had access to the autopen.

Really, you're citing that autopen non-story? They used it once...just as at least one prior administration had...and it's perfectly legal when it's done with the knowledge of the signer. And there is video after video of Biden signing EO after EO, and further, the national archives is the one who adds the auto signature that each administration gives them to the documents. FFS, you're better than this.

(03-25-2025 10:44 AM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  

(03-25-2025 09:36 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(03-25-2025 08:59 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  Using signal for this is discussion is off the reservation and likely illegal in several ways.

THIS!!!

And most of you are burying the lead...the issue here is not whether someone allowed the information to get to the reporter, either intentionally, or not.

THEE issue is that nearly every high ranking official in the trump administration was allegedly knowingly transferring sensitive information on a unsecure third-party application. The Defense Secretary, The Vice President, The Director of National Intelligence, The Treasury Secretary, The CIA Director, and The Secretary of State. They were all a part of this. And if you believe him, the actual president...no not elmo...WASN'T!

And the majority of the right in this thread.....

But sending classified emails to a private server kept in your home using personal phones then destroying all of this information is perfectly legal? Good to know.

Oh, stop it. Nobody said what Clinton did was legal or the best practice. Knock it off. And again, how does this help your argument...that trump is as bad or worse than Hillary?

(03-25-2025 08:46 AM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  This AT WORST was a stupid mistake on somebody's part.

It's not like they're out there lying to and intentionally deceiving the American people.

This isn't even in the universe of the BS we saw for four years from the Biden administrations.

SO WHY ARE YOU ACTING LIKE IT IS?

Never said it was. But people should be held accountable. This is a big **** up no matter how you look at it. A reporter could have put this out and the enemy could have been prepared for the attack.

You should never put data in a place that an unauthorized person could view it... if they kept it within the proper communications channels then there is no way that Goldberg could have viewed the information.

Like I said above, I don't buy that it isn't "classified". If that information isn't classified then why didn't they just put it out on twitter for the Houthi's to see it themselves?

I actually have no problem with them not firing anyone, but I do hope they go back and rethink their "communications" strategy. We've seen that the Israeli's can break into phones at will, I'm sure China and Russia can too.