(03-25-2025 08:27 AM)BobcatEngineer Wrote:  

(03-25-2025 08:09 AM)mlb Wrote:  

(03-25-2025 08:06 AM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  Forgot one.

The left LIES.

Based on this thread clearly the right does too. This is a HUGE **** up. Own it, apologize, and be better.

I'd have so much more respect for politicians, both liberal or conservative, if they admitted fault and took responsibility for their errors. Although I realize that's a fool's errand.

Clearly, these conversations that the Atlantic editor was privy to should not be happening over a third party messaging app. I care less that Goldberg was accidently added to the group chat than the fact that the conversation was happening on Signal in the first place. If the Trump Administration is going to boast that they're going to be better than the previous administration with regards to national security, then they're going to have to walk the walk.

This ain't it.

this will be forgotten yesterday ... the beauty of the 'glitch' is it exposes future weakness...

@loseEarlyWinAfter #PressWhenYaWanna (you'd have to be a golfer to get it)

My employer, whom is not in national defense, would reprimand and potentially fire someone for putting protected information into an unapproved system, even if the data was not exposed. I don't get why people are defending this stupidity. They should all be reprimanded at minimum. I don't care who you are, you broke the law. Be better.

(03-25-2025 08:26 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(03-25-2025 08:16 AM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  

(03-25-2025 08:09 AM)mlb Wrote:  

(03-25-2025 08:06 AM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  Forgot one.

The left LIES.

Based on this thread clearly the right does too. This is a HUGE **** up. Own it, apologize, and be better.

Sounds to me that a traitor staffer included this a-hole's number in the group.

I find it hard to believe that this was just an unfortunate mistake.

Made it to step four.

That didn't happen.
And if it did, it wasn't that bad.
And if it was, that's not a big deal.
And if it is, that's not my fault.
And if it was, I didn't mean it.
And if I did, you deserved it

THE BORDER IS SECURE!! JOE BIDEN IS SHARP AS A TACK!!

You believed that.

What bothers me, the reporting I've heard said this was a special app that encrypts messages not just a simple text message from a phone. IF that was true accidently being added to a group text should not allow recipients to read the text they should have an encryption key to unlock a message that's encrypted. So it would take two steps by the sender to give the Atlantic reporter the ability to read the text. First adding him to the text, second sharing an encryption key to unlock the text. IF it's accurate these were encrypted messages I don't see how this could be an accident.

I also have to wonder WHY anyone in the Trump administration would have a reporter from The Atlantic in their contact list.

(03-25-2025 08:20 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(03-25-2025 08:18 AM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  I've decided this was a leak from someone who slipped through the cracks when Trump and Hegseth were cleaning house at the Department of Defense. They should find out who it was and give them the heave ho!

that would easily make my top three in the "plausible"...

regardless, in any capacity, it should've never happened...

time to bring in the coders...

Yep. It should also be on a more secure texting software as well to avoid this stuff happening in the future.

I'm not going to defend this. It was idiotic.

(03-25-2025 08:31 AM)mlb Wrote:  My employer, whom is not in national defense, would reprimand and potentially fire someone for putting protected information into an unapproved system, even if the data was not exposed. I don't get why people are defending this stupidity. They should all be reprimanded at minimum. I don't care who you are, you broke the law. Be better.

well, we did finally fire the bleACHEd biatch, Ja?!

of all the things that matter, this one's in the barrel that houses the pickles to 'fix it'...

(03-25-2025 08:34 AM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  What bothers me, the reporting I've heard said this was a special app that encrypts messages not just a simple text message from a phone. IF that was true accidently being added to a group text should not allow recipients to read the text they should have an encryption key to unlock a message that's encrypted. So it would take two steps by the sender to give the Atlantic reporter the ability to read the text. First adding him to the text, second sharing an encryption key to unlock the text. IF it's accurate these were encrypted messages I don't see how this could be an accident.

I also have to wonder WHY anyone in the Trump administration would have a reporter from The Atlantic in their contact list.

Its why I have been ignoring the pearl clutching from the left and waiting to see what actually happened.

(03-25-2025 08:34 AM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  I also have to wonder WHY anyone in the Trump administration would have a reporter from The Atlantic in their contact list.

This. My very first thought when I heard about it. And Jeffrey Goldberg is not just any “reporter from The Atlantic” — he’s one of the media’s leading Trump/GOP-haters.

Definitely more to this than what we’ve heard so far.

(03-25-2025 08:34 AM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  What bothers me, the reporting I've heard said this was a special app that encrypts messages not just a simple text message from a phone. IF that was true accidently being added to a group text should not allow recipients to read the text they should have an encryption key to unlock a message that's encrypted. So it would take two steps by the sender to give the Atlantic reporter the ability to read the text. First adding him to the text, second sharing an encryption key to unlock the text. IF it's accurate these were encrypted messages I don't see how this could be an accident.

I also have to wonder WHY anyone in the Trump administration would have a reporter from The Atlantic in their contact list.

Why didn't they look to see who was part of the group? Having a clearance in general means you know your audience and who is read into the program.

This isn't nearly as wide ranging as Hilary's email server, but it is just as stupid.

(03-25-2025 08:31 AM)mlb Wrote:  My employer, whom is not in national defense, would reprimand and potentially fire someone for putting protected information into an unapproved system, even if the data was not exposed. I don't get why people are defending this stupidity. They should all be reprimanded at minimum. I don't care who you are, you broke the law. Be better.

This AT WORST was a stupid mistake on somebody's part.

It's not like they're out there lying to and intentionally deceiving the American people.

This isn't even in the universe of the BS we saw for four years from the Biden administrations.

SO WHY ARE YOU ACTING LIKE IT IS?

(03-25-2025 08:31 AM)mlb Wrote:  My employer, whom is not in national defense, would reprimand and potentially fire someone for putting protected information into an unapproved system, even if the data was not exposed. I don't get why people are defending this stupidity. They should all be reprimanded at minimum. I don't care who you are, you broke the law. Be better.

I think a lot of these Trump supporters are converted Democrats. No consequences for our side.

(03-25-2025 08:39 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(03-25-2025 08:31 AM)mlb Wrote:  My employer, whom is not in national defense, would reprimand and potentially fire someone for putting protected information into an unapproved system, even if the data was not exposed. I don't get why people are defending this stupidity. They should all be reprimanded at minimum. I don't care who you are, you broke the law. Be better.

well, we did finally fire the bleACHEd biatch, Ja?!

of all the things that matter, this one's in the barrel that houses the pickles to 'fix it'...

One thing to fix it is to fire the person stupid enough to create this problem, apparently either Waltz or one of his assistants.

(03-25-2025 08:45 AM)mlb Wrote:  This isn't nearly as wide ranging as Hilary's email server, but it is just as stupid.

Unless it was intentional, unless it was a set-up.

I’m not convinced that is true. But something very strange about this. Need more information.

(03-25-2025 08:48 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(03-25-2025 08:31 AM)mlb Wrote:  My employer, whom is not in national defense, would reprimand and potentially fire someone for putting protected information into an unapproved system, even if the data was not exposed. I don't get why people are defending this stupidity. They should all be reprimanded at minimum. I don't care who you are, you broke the law. Be better.

I think a lot of these Trump supporters are converted Democrats. No consequences for our side.

It’s been awhile since I held a TS clearance but I can’t imagine the regs changed to allow this. Had myself or other service members done something like this I/they would be in chains.

(03-25-2025 08:48 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(03-25-2025 08:31 AM)mlb Wrote:  My employer, whom is not in national defense, would reprimand and potentially fire someone for putting protected information into an unapproved system, even if the data was not exposed. I don't get why people are defending this stupidity. They should all be reprimanded at minimum. I don't care who you are, you broke the law. Be better.

I think a lot of these Trump supporters are converted Democrats. No consequences for our side.

FTR: I've never, nor will I, vote donk, nor any 3rd party in a 2-party system...

chew on that...

#introspection

(03-25-2025 08:50 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(03-25-2025 08:39 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(03-25-2025 08:31 AM)mlb Wrote:  My employer, whom is not in national defense, would reprimand and potentially fire someone for putting protected information into an unapproved system, even if the data was not exposed. I don't get why people are defending this stupidity. They should all be reprimanded at minimum. I don't care who you are, you broke the law. Be better.

well, we did finally fire the bleACHEd biatch, Ja?!

of all the things that matter, this one's in the barrel that houses the pickles to 'fix it'...

One thing to fix it is to fire the person stupid enough to create this problem, apparently either Waltz or one of his assistants.

you have to side with 'it's intentional' ... figgle who, how, and why; proceed from there...

(03-25-2025 08:34 AM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  What bothers me, the reporting I've heard said this was a special app that encrypts messages not just a simple text message from a phone. IF that was true accidently being added to a group text should not allow recipients to read the text they should have an encryption key to unlock a message that's encrypted. So it would take two steps by the sender to give the Atlantic reporter the ability to read the text. First adding him to the text, second sharing an encryption key to unlock the text. IF it's accurate these were encrypted messages I don't see how this could be an accident.

I also have to wonder WHY anyone in the Trump administration would have a reporter from The Atlantic in their contact list.

Signal is encrypted from telecom operators sniffing with a MITM attack, they will see encrypted traffic. Otherwise the encryption is set up when adding someone to the chat, you don’t share a key through a separate path.

Basically has the same measure of security as iMessage. More than SMS, but not in any way qualified for transmitting TS/SCI information.

Using signal for this is discussion is off the reservation and likely illegal in several ways.

(03-25-2025 08:59 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(03-25-2025 08:34 AM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  What bothers me, the reporting I've heard said this was a special app that encrypts messages not just a simple text message from a phone. IF that was true accidently being added to a group text should not allow recipients to read the text they should have an encryption key to unlock a message that's encrypted. So it would take two steps by the sender to give the Atlantic reporter the ability to read the text. First adding him to the text, second sharing an encryption key to unlock the text. IF it's accurate these were encrypted messages I don't see how this could be an accident.

I also have to wonder WHY anyone in the Trump administration would have a reporter from The Atlantic in their contact list.

Signal is encrypted from telecom operators sniffing with a MITM attack, they will see encrypted traffic. Otherwise the encryption is set up when adding someone to the chat, you don’t share a key through a separate path.

Basically has the same measure of security as iMessage. More than SMS, but not in any way qualified for transmitting TS/SCI information.

Using signal for this is discussion is off the reservation and likely illegal in several ways.

FO with that bs ... never mind .... please continue with /rhet

(03-25-2025 08:16 AM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  

(03-25-2025 08:09 AM)mlb Wrote:  

(03-25-2025 08:06 AM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  Forgot one.

The left LIES.

Based on this thread clearly the right does too. This is a HUGE **** up. Own it, apologize, and be better.

Sounds to me that a traitor staffer included this a-hole's number in the group.

I find it hard to believe that this was just an unfortunate mistake.

Wait, I thought it was all a lie?

So what now, it's sabotage by the coffee boy...who just happened to have access to sensitive information being shared on an unsecure app you can get at the google play store?