Reported earlier by the MSM, but Watters pretty much confirmed it tonight.

Apparently, Rubio was pissed b/c Musk wasn't counting the 1500 at State who took the early out offer, and Duffy was upset that Musk had fired some ATCs.

Trump let them go at it for a minute, then said that Musk can make recommendations, but the department heads have to make the final decision on their staffing.

AND...Trump said he didn't want to hear about it any more.

Meanwhile, an NBC reporter asked about it in the Oval today, and Trump said there was no conflict.

NOTE: This tweet is in 3 different pieces, and some of it is repetitive.

Quote:However truthful this report is, it is the most entertaining thing I've read all week. ?

Rubio and Musk have mini-argument during Cabinet meeting




"You have fired “nobody,” Mr. Musk told Mr. Rubio, then scornfully added that perhaps the only person he had fired was a staff member from his Department of Government Efficiency."

"Mr. Musk was not being truthful, Mr. Rubio said. What about the more than 1,500 State Department officials who took early retirement in buyouts? Didn’t they count as layoffs? He asked, sarcastically, whether Mr. Musk wanted him to rehire all those people just so he could make a show of firing them again. Then he laid out his detailed plans for reorganizing the State Department."

"Mr. Musk was unimpressed. He told Mr. Rubio he was “good on TV,” with the clear subtext being that he wasn’t good for much else. Throughout all of this, the president sat back in his chair, arms folded, as if he were watching a tennis match."

"After the argument dragged on for an uncomfortable time, Mr. Trump finally intervened to defend Mr. Rubio as doing a “great job.” Mr. Rubio has a lot to deal with, the president said. He is very busy, he is always traveling and on TV, and he has an agency to run. So everyone just needs to work together."

From the NYT.

Remember they're probably playing up truly how much of a "spat" this was. I don't doubt that @ElonMusk, however, brought up his urgency for speeding up firings in the meeting. The notion that the entire Cabinet is "furious" with Elon, though, is the sensational part here, IMO.

The dustup between Musk vs. Rubio and Duffy reportedly did happen, nobody is really disputing it, but all is well, and there is certainly no issue with Trump and Elon.

Trump handled it correctly. Musk makes recommendations. Department heads make the final decisions.

Sounds like Rubio wants to keep his full bureaucracy. State has the most traitors of any department.

So, in essence we find that his cabinet thinks for themselves and are not yes men? You notice that Trump let them state their piece and then like a true boss put a stop to it and made a determination.

(03-08-2025 09:53 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  So, in essence we find that his cabinet thinks for themselves and are not yes men? You notice that Trump let them state their piece and then like a true boss put a stop to it and made a determination.

Well, they are all alphas. Even the females.

Never been a Rubio fan

Just something about the guy

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It’s the freaking NYT. Why would anyone fall for this? Even if some of it is true it’s still half truths which means exaggerations added. The WSJ was caught lying about the administration recently and was rebuked for it

(03-08-2025 11:44 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  It’s the freaking NYT. Why would anyone fall for this? Even if some of it is true it’s still half truths which means exaggerations added. The WSJ was caught lying about the administration recently and was rebuked for it

Not a lie. Fox reported it, too. Verified through a few peeps. Musk criticized Rubio for not cutting enough, but 1500 took leave,and Duffy was upset that Musk cut some controllers, which Duffy didn't want to do.

They worked out a solution with Trump, but yeah, it's real.

Several conservative commentators have posted it on X, as well.

Of course, no doubt it is overblown. What's a lie is that it's still a problem, and that Musk and Trump have an issue. Nope. But the gist of a tug-of-war is true. There are way more sources than the NYT who verified it, to some level.

A lot of people who was fired by Musk were Trump voters who are now saying Trump betrayed them. No matter what, it is not a good image for Musk and Trump.

(03-09-2025 12:03 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  A lot of people who was fired by Musk were Trump voters who are now saying Trump betrayed them. No matter what, it is not a good image for Musk and Trump.

Source? Oh, yeah. You don't have one.

Go back to the Conference Realignment board. Next!

Now somebody is slinging BS, lol.

Here's a quick fact. About 92-98% of all civil service workers in DC vote for and donate to Dems.

(03-08-2025 11:14 PM)maximus Wrote:  Never been a Rubio fan

Just something about the guy

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Christie showed him to be an empty suit in the 2016 debates.

And he could never manage his own personal finances. WSJ story in 2016. He also seemed to be owned by a billionaire (Anderson?). Gave him a series of jobs.

(03-09-2025 12:54 AM)TripleA Wrote:  Now somebody is slinging BS, lol.

Here's a quick fact. About 92-98% of all civil service workers in DC vote for and donate to Dems.

People who were laid off where in Red states for the SSA offices and all that. West Virginia, Georgia, Alabama, Arkansas had SSA offices closed and a lot of people laid off from them. VA hospitals are not in DC as they are in all 50 states. A lot of VA staff are vets themselves who served in the military in wars and all that.

Social Security Offices Close

Now, a lot of these elderly have to go like 100 miles at least to get in person interviews. They said virtually is hard for older people who don't have computers and internet to file a claim.

(03-09-2025 02:22 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(03-09-2025 12:54 AM)TripleA Wrote:  Now somebody is slinging BS, lol.

Here's a quick fact. About 92-98% of all civil service workers in DC vote for and donate to Dems.

People who were laid off where in Red states for the SSA offices and all that. West Virginia, Georgia, Alabama, Arkansas had SSA offices closed and a lot of people laid off from them. VA hospitals are not in DC as they are in all 50 states. A lot of VA staff are vets themselves who served in the military in wars and all that.

Social Security Offices Close

Now, a lot of these elderly have to go like 100 miles at least to get in person interviews. They said virtually is hard for older people who don't have computers and internet to file a claim.

No, the issue with the SSA and VA were that they were only located in sh*thole sanctuary cities, where veterans and others had to travel hours from their home to get there. And because they were located in sh*thole sanctuary cities, the workers were not Trump supporters. You should probably look at the party voting record of a sh*thole city government worker and see how lopsided it is.

I read this and thought...good.

Prog filth are lockstep idiots.

We have thinkers. I hope they disagree passionately at times.

As kids, us boys would beat the shite out of each other thrn an hour later go fishin like nothin happened.

So what. Sorry if it scares the soy boys

(03-08-2025 11:56 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(03-08-2025 11:44 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  It’s the freaking NYT. Why would anyone fall for this? Even if some of it is true it’s still half truths which means exaggerations added. The WSJ was caught lying about the administration recently and was rebuked for it

Not a lie. Fox reported it, too. Verified through a few peeps. Musk criticized Rubio for not cutting enough, but 1500 took leave,and Duffy was upset that Musk cut some controllers, which Duffy didn't want to do.

They worked out a solution with Trump, but yeah, it's real.

Several conservative commentators have posted it on X, as well.

Of course, no doubt it is overblown. What's a lie is that it's still a problem, and that Musk and Trump have an issue. Nope. But the gist of a tug-of-war is true. There are way more sources than the NYT who verified it, to some level.

Like who? I’ve seen a bunch of conservative grifters on X in order to get paid will repeat anything for engagements. Very frustrating of late

(03-09-2025 09:13 AM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  

(03-08-2025 11:56 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(03-08-2025 11:44 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  It’s the freaking NYT. Why would anyone fall for this? Even if some of it is true it’s still half truths which means exaggerations added. The WSJ was caught lying about the administration recently and was rebuked for it

Not a lie. Fox reported it, too. Verified through a few peeps. Musk criticized Rubio for not cutting enough, but 1500 took leave,and Duffy was upset that Musk cut some controllers, which Duffy didn't want to do.

They worked out a solution with Trump, but yeah, it's real.

Several conservative commentators have posted it on X, as well.

Of course, no doubt it is overblown. What's a lie is that it's still a problem, and that Musk and Trump have an issue. Nope. But the gist of a tug-of-war is true. There are way more sources than the NYT who verified it, to some level.

Like who? I’ve seen a bunch of conservative grifters on X in order to get paid will repeat anything for engagements. Very frustrating of late

I don't remember. But Fox reported on it, as well.

Geez, it's no big deal. If you think all those alpha males get in a room and never clash, that's not realistic. The reasons given seem logical.

Musk questioned Rubio's level of cuts, and Rubio said 1500 took retirement. Duffy's question allegedly had to do with cuts of ATCs, which is not needed.

But then all of them sat together at dinner at Mar-a-Lago, lol.

Bottom line is there is no permanent rift between them, but if you think they never have clashes in meetings, that's just not logical.