Z IS in no shape to refuse anything from the US. The US IS THE DON. Kiss the ring or you're done. This isn't hard.

The best analysis Ive seen is the one posted by Ben Shapiro. Without quibbling over a minor difference of opinion, he and I are basically on the same page with respect to that oval office meeting.

UKRAINE SIGNED A 100-YEAR REM DEAL WITH THE UK ON JAN 17, and didn't tell us.

It would take precedence over any US deal.

(03-03-2025 10:49 PM)TripleA Wrote:  UKRAINE SIGNED A 100-YEAR REM DEAL WITH THE UK ON JAN 17, and didn't tell us.

It would take precedence over any US deal.

If you have this info----then so does the WH and Trump still seems to think its good deal for us. So I have no idea what to think.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ukraine...s-congress

(03-03-2025 10:55 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(03-03-2025 10:49 PM)TripleA Wrote:  UKRAINE SIGNED A 100-YEAR REM DEAL WITH THE UK ON JAN 17, and didn't tell us.

It would take precedence over any US deal.

If you have this info----then so does the WH and Trump still seems to think its good deal for us. So I have no idea what to think.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ukraine...s-congress

I have no info. It's in an X Post from CP that I copied. Maybe your article was written before that X post was published.

Here is the original info in a video that was posted on Rumble, from an interview on NewsMax.

"President Trump Found out they were being Played"

https://rumble.com/v6q2gqy-president-tru...layed.html

(03-03-2025 10:59 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(03-03-2025 10:55 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(03-03-2025 10:49 PM)TripleA Wrote:  UKRAINE SIGNED A 100-YEAR REM DEAL WITH THE UK ON JAN 17, and didn't tell us.

It would take precedence over any US deal.

If you have this info----then so does the WH and Trump still seems to think its good deal for us. So I have no idea what to think.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ukraine...s-congress

I have no info. It's in an X Post from CP that I copied. Maybe your article was written before that X post was published.

Idk. The article is a half hour old and the quote is from today.

(03-03-2025 11:03 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(03-03-2025 10:59 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(03-03-2025 10:55 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(03-03-2025 10:49 PM)TripleA Wrote:  UKRAINE SIGNED A 100-YEAR REM DEAL WITH THE UK ON JAN 17, and didn't tell us.

It would take precedence over any US deal.

If you have this info----then so does the WH and Trump still seems to think its good deal for us. So I have no idea what to think.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ukraine...s-congress

I have no info. It's in an X Post from CP that I copied. Maybe your article was written before that X post was published.

Idk. The article is a half hour old and the quote is from today.

So watch the video I just posted right above your post.

(03-03-2025 11:07 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(03-03-2025 11:03 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(03-03-2025 10:59 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(03-03-2025 10:55 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(03-03-2025 10:49 PM)TripleA Wrote:  UKRAINE SIGNED A 100-YEAR REM DEAL WITH THE UK ON JAN 17, and didn't tell us.

It would take precedence over any US deal.

If you have this info----then so does the WH and Trump still seems to think its good deal for us. So I have no idea what to think.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ukraine...s-congress

I have no info. It's in an X Post from CP that I copied. Maybe your article was written before that X post was published.

Idk. The article is a half hour old and the quote is from today.

So watch the video I just posted right above your post.

There may be a conflict---hard to tell. The UK is a "preferred partner" on resources---whatever that means. The US deal is more specific to REM and oil/gas resources and says we get 50% of the profit. Whats clear is the UK deal doesnt cut the UK government in for a share of the profits. It may be that the British are willing to cede to the US on any conflicts in order to keep us in the game there. Interestingly, the UK DID give security guarantees as part of their deal. The video says we were doing a deal with security guarantees (which is wrong). I think the video might not be all that accurate. Here's what I found.


https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/uk-...agreement/

(03-03-2025 11:21 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(03-03-2025 11:07 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(03-03-2025 11:03 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(03-03-2025 10:59 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(03-03-2025 10:55 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  If you have this info----then so does the WH and Trump still seems to think its good deal for us. So I have no idea what to think.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ukraine...s-congress

I have no info. It's in an X Post from CP that I copied. Maybe your article was written before that X post was published.

Idk. The article is a half hour old and the quote is from today.

So watch the video I just posted right above your post.

There may be a conflict---hard to tell. The UK is a "preferred partner" on resources---whatever that means. The US deal is more specific to REM and oil/gas resources and says we get 50% of the profit. Whats clear is the UK deal doesnt cut the UK government in for a share of the profits. It may be that the British are willing to cede to the US on any conflicts in order to keep us in the game there. Idk. Here's what I found.


https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/uk-...agreement/

Well, the dude in the video said it was a conflict, but I skimmed through the agreement and didn't see any specific mention of REM, so not sure if he assumed that, or we're missing something.

So keep sendin thr double crossing globohomo Z munitions....lets change the delivery method.



Seriously. I hope Russia thumps the shite out of them now. I always just wanted our money back...now i want them beaten. Badly.

(03-03-2025 06:42 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(03-03-2025 06:34 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(03-03-2025 06:27 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

Billions upon billlions of dollars later

no way I let his arse back to the table ... put a couple of stamps on his forehead and send him home...

how times and different ways does it need to be stated ... he's a fk'n shyster...

the rest is me making fun of anyone that takes that fkbag seriously....

I read “put a couple stamps on” a couple hours ago and interrupted our episode of 1923 with a hearty laugh.

That’s about right. We need him for… wha?
Do his people even want him any longer? Did they ever?
How long does this go on if we DO keep supplying the stunted dictator with armaments and moneyments?

How long does the killing go on if we don’t?

When have we EVER been at war with Russia, the USSR, or Russia yet again?

Damn, folks. We didn’t even go after Stalin, Khrushchev or even Brezhnev?

Gorby and Ronaldus Maximus actually got along well enough to bring an end to hostilities (for the most part, don’t start) and nary a nuke headed either direction.

Why are we still fighting this? What’s the point? Why do we “HATE” Russia when we’ve rarely had a shot fired between our two counties? Odd, no?

I’ve known, and yes dated, several Soviet era bloc folks after many years. They are generally fine people. Happy to be free in the USA.
We have a lot more in common with them than we do with anyone from a lot of the rest of the world.
None of this makes much sense any longer.

UK stated they would commit troops to the Ukraine for security. If they do send troops and are attacked, that would invoke Article 5 of the NATO clause. Putin already stated that any NATO Country in Ukraine would be seen as an act of war. https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4gxgxl3grgo

Europe is being stupid and on a war footing. Sadly, like WW1 and 2, the USA may be forced in it.

(03-03-2025 08:56 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(03-03-2025 08:20 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(03-03-2025 07:38 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(03-03-2025 07:30 PM)boss man Wrote:  WASHINGTON, March 3 (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump has paused all military aid to Ukraine following his clash with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy last week, according to media reports on Monday.

The pause will last until Trump determines the country's leaders demonstrate a good-faith commitment to peace, according to Bloomberg and Fox News reports.

"This is not permanent termination of aid, it's a pause," Fox News quoted a Trump administration official as saying.

I wonder if Zelensky is getting the message.....

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/us-...025-03-04/

As I said from the start of this mess----the deal really didnt have anything in terms of a security guarantee---but Zelensky still needed to sign it because it did something just as important---it allowed the supply of weapons and ammo to his troops to continue until a peace deal was reached. Its his first responsibility to make sure his nation can survive the war----once thats done----then he can figure out how his nation can survive the peace. Should have showed up---in a suit---smiled---kept quiet---thanked the US----and walked out with a deal that gave his nation a good chance to survive. Im sure he'll eventually sign it---but this should not have been difficult.

You talk like this guy wants peace? The f'er wants the world to put their son's and daughters life on the line and push Russia home. Or destroy them. That is what the f'er wants. Not peace. Also understands that once the fighting stops Ukraine has zero shot of NATO. He thinks as long as Russia is fighting, at some point the EU and America will let them be part of NATO.

I think he wants NATO because he believes thats the best way to prevent another invasion. I think he is worried that it will happen again because its the 3rd invasion in a decade by Russia. But NATO is not happening----and the security guarnatees are like step #67 in completing the peace plan---and the peace plan participants are just on step #2.

Like I said before---he needs to do whats necessary to allow his nation to survive the war (which right now is sign the REM agreement)---then he can worry about the security guarantees in any peace deal once the shooting stops. If he cant do that---then he needs to get out of the way and let someone else lead. From what Ive read today---it sounds like he's ready to sign and probably do whatever groveling is necessary to get out of Trumps doghouse.

Will magically happen 3 media cycles prior to SOTU.

Just dawned on me. 4D methodology continues unabated.

Heeeey, batter batter, swiiiing!!!

(03-04-2025 12:23 AM)hburg Wrote:  UK stated they would commit troops to the Ukraine for security. If they do send troops and are attacked, that would invoke Article 5 of the NATO clause. Putin already stated that any NATO Country in Ukraine would be seen as an act of war. https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4gxgxl3grgo

Europe is being stupid and on a war footing. Sadly, like WW1 and 2, the USA may be forced in it.

No, we won't be forced into it. The clause is not invoked if the invaded country is not a member of NATO.

(03-04-2025 12:56 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(03-04-2025 12:23 AM)hburg Wrote:  UK stated they would commit troops to the Ukraine for security. If they do send troops and are attacked, that would invoke Article 5 of the NATO clause. Putin already stated that any NATO Country in Ukraine would be seen as an act of war. https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4gxgxl3grgo

Europe is being stupid and on a war footing. Sadly, like WW1 and 2, the USA may be forced in it.

No, we won't be forced into it. The clause is not invoked if the invaded country is not a member of NATO.

Correct. It would be a non-NATO mission. That said---the only person who has ever said Putin is ok with European peace keeping troops in Ukraine is Trump. Russian Foriegn Minister Lavrov has said just the opposite---many times---including just 5 days ago. lol---the article indicated Lavrov has dismissed the idea of European peace keepers in Ukraine and is so negative toward every peace proposal that some Western diplomats have privately taken to calling him "Dr No".

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/rus...025-02-26/

There is no separating “troops from nato countries” and “nato troops.”

Putin says no, and he means no.

(03-04-2025 01:22 AM)Todor Wrote:  There is no separating “troops from nato countries” and “nato troops.”

Putin says no, and he means no.

This is why I said Zelensky should have just agreed to Trumps cease fire deal even if he didnt want it. Its not going to happen. He blew up his REM/weapons deal over a peace plan thats DOA. It might happen down the road, but there is zero chance it happens quick and even less chance it happens without the application of some form of "stick" to Russia. That said, Ive seen a few indicate that Trump slightly losing it a bit in the oval office with another nation's leader might work in his favor here----letting Putin know that being too unreasonable and trying to push Trump too far might not be all that wise.

(03-03-2025 10:22 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  Z IS in no shape to refuse anything from the US. The US IS THE DON. Kiss the ring or you're done. This isn't hard.

Some people in this country just want endless wars no matter what. It's way past time that stops.

(03-04-2025 01:22 AM)Todor Wrote:  There is no separating “troops from nato countries” and “nato troops.”

Putin says no, and he means no.

Luckily, I've been hearing that calls for us to exit NATO are increasing. But I haven't seen or heard anybody like Ted Cruz say it yet. (They may have; I just haven't seen or heard anything about that.)