RE: Trump to Zelenskyy: "You're gambling with World War III!"
(03-03-2025 07:08 PM)shere khan Wrote: Just saw on the interwebs that Trump had halted all aid to Ukraine.
Trying to verify.
Bret Baier announced that on his show twenty minutes ago, and Laura Ingraham said the same thing just a little bit ago. It's real. (Trump officials also said that it's not permanent, which means it's all dependent on how serious Ukraine is about achieving peace.)
(This post was last modified: 03-03-2025 07:13 PM by GeminiCoog.)
RE: Trump to Zelenskyy: "You're gambling with World War III!"
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@ericswalwell
brags that the US proxy war in Ukraine "has decimated [Russia's] military and economy." He calls this "the greatest return on investment for any military expenditure ever, and as far as the return on investment for soldiers' lives, it's infinity, because you can't divide zero."
He doesn't mention that you can divide the Ukrainian death toll, which is in the hundreds of thousands. And when did voters decide that "decimating" a foreign military and economy, especially one that is nuclear-armed, is a worthwhile goal?
The fervor that proxy warriors have for killing Russians is matched by their contempt for Ukrainian lives, not to mention their own voters.
(This post was last modified: 03-03-2025 07:25 PM by CrimsonPhantom.)
RE: Trump to Zelenskyy: "You're gambling with World War III!"
WASHINGTON, March 3 (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump has paused all military aid to Ukraine following his clash with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy last week, according to media reports on Monday.
The pause will last until Trump determines the country's leaders demonstrate a good-faith commitment to peace, according to Bloomberg and Fox News reports.
"This is not permanent termination of aid, it's a pause," Fox News quoted a Trump administration official as saying.
RE: Trump to Zelenskyy: "You're gambling with World War III!"
(03-03-2025 07:30 PM)boss man Wrote: WASHINGTON, March 3 (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump has paused all military aid to Ukraine following his clash with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy last week, according to media reports on Monday.
The pause will last until Trump determines the country's leaders demonstrate a good-faith commitment to peace, according to Bloomberg and Fox News reports.
"This is not permanent termination of aid, it's a pause," Fox News quoted a Trump administration official as saying.
As I said from the start of this mess----the deal really didnt have anything in terms of a security guarantee---but Zelensky still needed to sign it because it did something just as important---it allowed the supply of weapons and ammo to his troops to continue until a peace deal was reached. Its his first responsibility to make sure his nation can survive the war----once thats done----then he can figure out how his nation can survive the peace. Should have showed up---in a suit---smiled---kept quiet---thanked the US----and walked out with a deal that gave his nation a good chance to survive. Im sure he'll eventually sign it---but this should not have been difficult.
(This post was last modified: 03-03-2025 07:39 PM by Attackcoog.)
RE: Trump to Zelenskyy: "You're gambling with World War III!"
(03-03-2025 07:38 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:
(03-03-2025 07:30 PM)boss man Wrote: WASHINGTON, March 3 (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump has paused all military aid to Ukraine following his clash with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy last week, according to media reports on Monday.
The pause will last until Trump determines the country's leaders demonstrate a good-faith commitment to peace, according to Bloomberg and Fox News reports.
"This is not permanent termination of aid, it's a pause," Fox News quoted a Trump administration official as saying.
As I said from the start of this mess----the deal really didnt have anything in terms of a security guarantee---but Zelensky still needed to sign it because it did something just as important---it allowed the supply of weapons and ammo to his troops to continue until a peace deal was reached. Its his first responsibility to make sure his nation can survive the war----once thats done----then he can figure out how his nation can survive the peace. Should have showed up---in a suit---smiled---kept quiet---thanked the US----and walked out with a deal that gave his nation a good chance to survive. Im sure he'll eventually sign it---but this should not have been difficult.
His own people will turn on him for being an idiot. Z wil have his gestapo working overtime.
RE: Trump to Zelenskyy: "You're gambling with World War III!"
What you going to hear is Putin is going to try with everything he has and take Ukraine because they wont have the arms needed. A lot of this world are flat out idiots because at this point Putin wants this over and probably more so than Ukraine. No probably to it, he wants it over, and looking for a way out. Dont want to give up what he took, but wants it over.
So no way is Russia going to make a hard push to take more of Ukraine. No matter how much land Russia took, they lost, in this war. There are no winners and to get to a end, Ukraine is going to lose the land Russia holds. Today, tomorrow, next year, the outcome in this is not changing.
The midget cant understand this and wants to get the EU and America into this war to get Russia all the way out of Ukraine. It's easy to see that's his goal. Russia, is not going tom make that hard push because that's the last thing they want. They also arent going to do it because Putin understands while Trump is pissed....he will give Ukraine just about what they want other than boots on the ground, if Russia tried to take advantage.
If people dont believe Putin is ready for a end, they are just dumb as f'. The world has seen the Russia army is not what people thought it was. If nukes were not a threat, as small as that is, its still "A" threat. But if not, with in a month, maybe a couple weeks NATO with America, would push Russia back home or destroy them.
That is how weak the Russian army is at this point. Putin knows this better than anyone, its why he wont escalate things and back Trump into funding Ukraine. Or pushing other countries to a point of putting their boots on the ground. The man wants this over as much as Trump does. But he's not going to let the world know that.
The f'ing idiots that believes Russia is a threat to the EU, are not only idiots but retarded. Hell it will take Russia 10, 15, 20 years to just get back to where their army was before the start of this war.
I don't believe those pushing the little man's buttons are idiots....
they understand there are 100s of billion more to be made here and that's what its about for them.
(This post was last modified: 03-03-2025 08:17 PM by WKUYG.)
RE: Trump to Zelenskyy: "You're gambling with World War III!"
The US was going to invest $ billions in Ukraine.That was his "security". The US was going to "secure" that. Idiots. Better off letting the Eurocucks cover them.
RE: Trump to Zelenskyy: "You're gambling with World War III!"
(03-03-2025 07:38 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:
(03-03-2025 07:30 PM)boss man Wrote: WASHINGTON, March 3 (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump has paused all military aid to Ukraine following his clash with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy last week, according to media reports on Monday.
The pause will last until Trump determines the country's leaders demonstrate a good-faith commitment to peace, according to Bloomberg and Fox News reports.
"This is not permanent termination of aid, it's a pause," Fox News quoted a Trump administration official as saying.
As I said from the start of this mess----the deal really didnt have anything in terms of a security guarantee---but Zelensky still needed to sign it because it did something just as important---it allowed the supply of weapons and ammo to his troops to continue until a peace deal was reached. Its his first responsibility to make sure his nation can survive the war----once thats done----then he can figure out how his nation can survive the peace. Should have showed up---in a suit---smiled---kept quiet---thanked the US----and walked out with a deal that gave his nation a good chance to survive. Im sure he'll eventually sign it---but this should not have been difficult.
You talk like this guy wants peace? The f'er wants the world to put their son's and daughters life on the line and push Russia home. Or destroy them. That is what the f'er wants. Not peace. Also understands that once the fighting stops Ukraine has zero shot of NATO. He thinks as long as Russia is fighting, at some point the EU and America will let them be part of NATO.
(This post was last modified: 03-03-2025 08:24 PM by WKUYG.)
RE: Trump to Zelenskyy: "You're gambling with World War III!"
(03-03-2025 08:13 PM)WKUYG Wrote: What you going to hear is Putin is going to try with everything he has and take Ukraine because they wont have the arms needed. A lot of this world are flat out idiots because at this point Putin wants this over and probably more so than Ukraine. No probably to it, he wants it over, and looking for a way out. Dont want to give up what he took, but wants it over.
So no way is Russia going to make a hard push to take more of Ukraine. No matter how much land Russia took, they lost, in this war. There are no winners and to get to a end, Ukraine is going to lose the land Russia holds. Today, tomorrow, next year, the outcome in this is not changing.
The midget cant understand this and wants to get the EU and America into this war to get Russia all the way out of Ukraine. It's easy to see that's his goal. Russia, is not going tom make that hard push because that's the last thing they want. They also arent going to do it because Putin understands while Trump is pissed....he will give Ukraine just about what they want other than boots on the ground, if Russia tried to take advantage.
If people dont believe Putin is ready for a end, they are just dumb as f'. The world has seen the Russia army is not what people thought it was. If nukes were not a threat, as small as that is, its still "A" threat. But if not, with in a month, maybe a couple weeks NATO with America, would push Russia back home or destroy them.
That is how weak the Russian army is at this point. Putin knows this better than anyone, its why he wont escalate things and back Trump into funding Ukraine. Or pushing other countries to a point of putting their boots on the ground. The man wants this over as much as Trump does. But he's not going to let the world know that.
The f'ing idiots that believes Russia is a threat to the EU, are not only idiots but retarded. Hell it will take Russia 10, 15, 20 years to just get back to where their army was before the start of this war.
I don't believe those pushing the little man's buttons are idiots....
they understand there are 100s of billion more to be made here and that's what its about for them.
If Putin really wanted the war to be over more than he wants to accomplish his goals---it would already be over. If Putin was satisfied with his position and believed peace was right around the corner---one would think his forces would not still be in offensive mode. Yet the Russian forces are still throwing meat wave attacks at dug in positions. I think Putin is very willing to discuss peace---but only if he gets what amounts to a complete surrender to every demand on his wish list (at least, that is certainly what the public comments from Lavrov would seem to indicate). Im not sure publicly announcing that the defensive forces in Ukraine might soon be running low on ammo is the kind of thing to make Putin rush to the negotiating table. Nothing Ive seen so far indicates to me that ballooning casualty figures are now---or have ever been---a big concern to the Russian leadership.
(This post was last modified: 03-03-2025 08:49 PM by Attackcoog.)