(02-28-2025 07:48 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(02-28-2025 07:21 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  

(02-28-2025 07:14 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(02-28-2025 01:00 PM)shere khan Wrote:  Magnificent Orange Bastard.

Z in his costume. What a clown.

lol---you had to be in heaven today. This was literally your wet dream.

Wasnt able to see the whole thing---but from what I understand Z had a mineral deal that would have at least given the US some skin in the game in Ukriane----and most importantly---I also saw on Twitter that the first part of the oval talk made it clear the REM deal would also mean continued weapons supplies from the US. If thats the case, that was about the best this deal was ever going to be. No idea why Zelensky kept pushing for more security guarantees in public when he was just minutes away from signing a deal that would have given his people the ability to hold their own until the peace deal could be negotiated.

If that is all true---then your celebration may not be over. This was such an incompetent display I will not be shocked if Zelensky doesnt survive the week and is forced to resign by his government.

Because he's a snot-knows spoiled brat who was asking for yet another handout (in terms of money) and we finally cut him off. Besides, Biden pushed Putin (and Russia, since he's in charge of it) into China's arms. Trump's trying to play the long game and split the two of those up. He can't show his hand yet. That's what certain people don't understand. I think you do, but sometimes, what you say on here when it comes to this overall topic makes me wonder. (No offense, of course. lol) Like I said to SoMs Eagle, we have our own problems we need to be dealing with. There was no need for us to get involved in this.

That said, I'll say this once again. Both Putin and Zelenskyy are jerkoffs for different but legitimately equally damning reasons. We know about Putin. Now it's Zelenskyy's turn to be shown in the poor light he deserves.

FWIW---I agree it would be nice to undermine the alliance between Russia and China---but its naive to expect that is likley to happen. Its almost like saying "I sure wish those countries would stop doing whats in their best interests". There are multiple reasons the USA would very much prefer those two were not allied (im sure you can name a bunch of them)----and those reasons are EXACTLY why that alliance will be in place for probably decades to come. It only makes sense that they will be aligned until that alignment doesnt serve their interests (We'd do the same---and did).

Think about it----even if we become an isolationist nation and only stay in the western hemisphere in some sort of new world order of multi-polar modern colonialism ---Im hard pressed to see how Russia and China having their individual spheres of influence aligned together doesnt serve their best interests for quite some time to come. It basically does the same thing NATO did for the US over the last 7 decades. In fact---if we become an isolationist nation---that Russia-China Alliance may very well be the most powerful entity in the world....no idea if they will be as benevolent as we have been while holding that position.

First off, I need to say this: A hell of a lot of us are tired of endless wars, including myself. I know a lot of people on here feel the same way. Hell, I know TripleA has said earlier in this thread. Second, a hell of a lot of us are tired of being the world's police force, which again includes myself. We do it because "we hate injustice" but really it's so certain people can get richer and richer. It's the same with this proxy war that's going nowhere. Besides, every time we've done so for a long time, we've gotten ridiculed for "being imperialists" by even or own allies. So again, like I've told SoMs Eagle, it's time for us to focus on our own problems.

And about Zelenskyy, I need to say this as well. I get that he's pissed off about war. But he should be directing his anger towards those who deserve it: Those who have been lying to him about Ukraine's chances of winning the war, and Putin-led Russia for invading Ukraine yet again. (They did it under Bush 43, Obama, and Biden. He didn't do that under Trump's first time as President.)

Lastly, I need to make this point: Putin is laughing on his way to the bank, so to speak, and it's because of Zelenskyy. If Zelenskyy had been cordial, we would've seen him as a victim of a needless invasion by a country who after the fall of the Soviet Union was supposed to help ensure its security (we along with Russia and the UK made a deal to make sure Ukraine's sovereignty was secure, and Russia broke it) as well as thankful for saving his life, both figuratively and literally. It's okay for him to be angry, as I've said. His anger, however, is misdirected.

He'll be lucky to survive a bloodless coup by members of his Parliament. Good luck, Zelenskyy.

(02-28-2025 08:01 PM)Redbanksdog Wrote:  

(02-28-2025 06:55 PM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  Seriously this will end up being a defining moment in history. Half or more of our country sides with an invading tyrant because it cost us money. Hopefully in the future it will not be American men slaughtered on a newly defined front. Then the money will seem insignificant.

Sounds like you're looking for another Vietnam.

And that's what this would turn into if we didn't have someone like Trump in charge. I would hope we've already learned that mistake.

(02-28-2025 08:20 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  

(02-28-2025 08:01 PM)Redbanksdog Wrote:  

(02-28-2025 06:55 PM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  Seriously this will end up being a defining moment in history. Half or more of our country sides with an invading tyrant because it cost us money. Hopefully in the future it will not be American men slaughtered on a newly defined front. Then the money will seem insignificant.

Sounds like you're looking for another Vietnam.

And that's what this would turn into if we didn't have someone like Trump in charge. I would hope we've already learned that mistake.

They are not mistakes, they're opportunities for ******** to make some money.

That little Z dude is done, he FK up big time today. You do not bite the hand that feeds you.

(02-28-2025 06:01 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  

(02-28-2025 05:57 PM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  Trump is in Putin’s pocket and has been wanting to do this all along. Red meat for the MAGA base and a manufactured excuse to abandon Ukraine to a dictator. The whole thing looked manufactured, like a set up with JD Vance sitting there then Lindsey Graham coming out afterwards, who had always staunchly supported ukraine, with his prepared 180 on ukraine and knowing what he's going to say and how he's going to say it in lock step. Even the media jackal who condescendingly asked of Zelinsky had a suit, to the delight of everyone but Marco Rubio, was in on this middle school bullying. Trump is no better than Putin deep down. Hopefully people will begin to see that as more of his immorality shines.

The Democrats would like their 2016 Propaganda back.

Trump and his sycophants have only undermined the standing of America in the world in the last month and a half. Verbally attacking Canada and Mexico. Verbally attacking our (former) allies in Europe. And driving away and a wedge between the United States and our former allies and neighbors. Our moral standing now is much less than it was just a month and a half ago. Under this President we are no longer a country that can be counted on. Don't be surprised if the United States is now separated from our former allies because they now see us it's not dependable and, at least with this administration, much closer to gangster States like Russia, China, North Korea and the others because we have a president who doesn't admire good or what's right but only projections of naked gangster type intimidation. That's who Trump is personally and that's who he admires. An insecure bully only picks easy targets. Zielinsky on the other hand is was fighting against an international murderer, for the life of his country, and with great personal risk to himself and is 10 times the man Trump is, was, or ever will be. As the free world turns against the United States I hope enough people take the time to ask themselves what's going on and reevaluate any kind of emotional attachment they have to that man. Nothing he does is an accident.. he's actually a horrible person.

(02-28-2025 08:24 PM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  

(02-28-2025 06:01 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  

(02-28-2025 05:57 PM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  Trump is in Putin’s pocket and has been wanting to do this all along. Red meat for the MAGA base and a manufactured excuse to abandon Ukraine to a dictator. The whole thing looked manufactured, like a set up with JD Vance sitting there then Lindsey Graham coming out afterwards, who had always staunchly supported ukraine, with his prepared 180 on ukraine and knowing what he's going to say and how he's going to say it in lock step. Even the media jackal who condescendingly asked of Zelinsky had a suit, to the delight of everyone but Marco Rubio, was in on this middle school bullying. Trump is no better than Putin deep down. Hopefully people will begin to see that as more of his immorality shines.

The Democrats would like their 2016 Propaganda back.

Trump and his sycophants have only undermined the standing of America in the world in the last month and a half. Verbally attacking Canada and Mexico. Verbally attacking our (former) allies in Europe. And driving away and a wedge between the United States and our former allies and neighbors. Our moral standing now is much less than it was just a month and a half ago. Under this President we are no longer a country that can be counted on. Don't be surprised if the United States is now separated from our former allies because they now see us it's not dependable and, at least with this administration, much closer to gangster States like Russia, China, North Korea and the others because we have a president who doesn't admire good or what's right but only projections of naked gangster type intimidation. That's who Trump is personally and that's who he admires. An insecure bully only picks easy targets. Zielinsky on the other hand is was fighting against an international murderer, for the life of his country, and with great personal risk to himself and is 10 times the man Trump is, was, or ever will be. As the free world turns against the United States I hope enough people take the time to ask themselves what's going on and reevaluate any kind of emotional attachment they have to that man. Nothing he does is an accident.. he's actually a horrible person.

Said like somebody who wants World War III. In fact, every single thing you've ever said on this subforum has been absolute bunk. Just the same old leftist talking points on repeat, which always includes some variation of "ORANGE MAN BAD! REEEEEE! ." Nobody takes you seriously anymore. That is, if they ever did.

Again, SIT! THE MOTHERFUCK! DOWN!

(02-28-2025 08:22 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

(02-28-2025 08:20 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  

(02-28-2025 08:01 PM)Redbanksdog Wrote:  

(02-28-2025 06:55 PM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  Seriously this will end up being a defining moment in history. Half or more of our country sides with an invading tyrant because it cost us money. Hopefully in the future it will not be American men slaughtered on a newly defined front. Then the money will seem insignificant.

Sounds like you're looking for another Vietnam.

And that's what this would turn into if we didn't have someone like Trump in charge. I would hope we've already learned that mistake.

They are not mistakes, they're opportunities for ******** to make some money.

Oh, I know. (And I know you know that I know that you know that I know that...and I know that you know that, too. lol) I just hope and pray we everyday Americans have learned that lesson.

(02-28-2025 08:24 PM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  

(02-28-2025 06:01 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  

(02-28-2025 05:57 PM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  Trump is in Putin’s pocket and has been wanting to do this all along. Red meat for the MAGA base and a manufactured excuse to abandon Ukraine to a dictator. The whole thing looked manufactured, like a set up with JD Vance sitting there then Lindsey Graham coming out afterwards, who had always staunchly supported ukraine, with his prepared 180 on ukraine and knowing what he's going to say and how he's going to say it in lock step. Even the media jackal who condescendingly asked of Zelinsky had a suit, to the delight of everyone but Marco Rubio, was in on this middle school bullying. Trump is no better than Putin deep down. Hopefully people will begin to see that as more of his immorality shines.

The Democrats would like their 2016 Propaganda back.

Trump and his sycophants have only undermined the standing of America in the world in the last month and a half. Verbally attacking Canada and Mexico. Verbally attacking our (former) allies in Europe. And driving away and a wedge between the United States and our former allies and neighbors. Our moral standing now is much less than it was just a month and a half ago. Under this President we are no longer a country that can be counted on. Don't be surprised if the United States is now separated from our former allies because they now see us it's not dependable and, at least with this administration, much closer to gangster States like Russia, China, North Korea and the others because we have a president who doesn't admire good or what's right but only projections of naked gangster type intimidation. That's who Trump is personally and that's who he admires. An insecure bully only picks easy targets. Zielinsky on the other hand is was fighting against an international murderer, for the life of his country, and with great personal risk to himself and is 10 times the man Trump is, was, or ever will be. As the free world turns against the United States I hope enough people take the time to ask themselves what's going on and reevaluate any kind of emotional attachment they have to that man. Nothing he does is an accident.. he's actually a horrible person.

Fly to Ukraine and enlist.

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(02-28-2025 08:19 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  

(02-28-2025 07:48 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(02-28-2025 07:21 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  

(02-28-2025 07:14 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(02-28-2025 01:00 PM)shere khan Wrote:  Magnificent Orange Bastard.

Z in his costume. What a clown.

lol---you had to be in heaven today. This was literally your wet dream.

Wasnt able to see the whole thing---but from what I understand Z had a mineral deal that would have at least given the US some skin in the game in Ukriane----and most importantly---I also saw on Twitter that the first part of the oval talk made it clear the REM deal would also mean continued weapons supplies from the US. If thats the case, that was about the best this deal was ever going to be. No idea why Zelensky kept pushing for more security guarantees in public when he was just minutes away from signing a deal that would have given his people the ability to hold their own until the peace deal could be negotiated.

If that is all true---then your celebration may not be over. This was such an incompetent display I will not be shocked if Zelensky doesnt survive the week and is forced to resign by his government.

Because he's a snot-knows spoiled brat who was asking for yet another handout (in terms of money) and we finally cut him off. Besides, Biden pushed Putin (and Russia, since he's in charge of it) into China's arms. Trump's trying to play the long game and split the two of those up. He can't show his hand yet. That's what certain people don't understand. I think you do, but sometimes, what you say on here when it comes to this overall topic makes me wonder. (No offense, of course. lol) Like I said to SoMs Eagle, we have our own problems we need to be dealing with. There was no need for us to get involved in this.

That said, I'll say this once again. Both Putin and Zelenskyy are jerkoffs for different but legitimately equally damning reasons. We know about Putin. Now it's Zelenskyy's turn to be shown in the poor light he deserves.

FWIW---I agree it would be nice to undermine the alliance between Russia and China---but its naive to expect that is likley to happen. Its almost like saying "I sure wish those countries would stop doing whats in their best interests". There are multiple reasons the USA would very much prefer those two were not allied (im sure you can name a bunch of them)----and those reasons are EXACTLY why that alliance will be in place for probably decades to come. It only makes sense that they will be aligned until that alignment doesnt serve their interests (We'd do the same---and did).

Think about it----even if we become an isolationist nation and only stay in the western hemisphere in some sort of new world order of multi-polar modern colonialism ---Im hard pressed to see how Russia and China having their individual spheres of influence aligned together doesnt serve their best interests for quite some time to come. It basically does the same thing NATO did for the US over the last 7 decades. In fact---if we become an isolationist nation---that Russia-China Alliance may very well be the most powerful entity in the world....no idea if they will be as benevolent as we have been while holding that position.

First off, I need to say this: A hell of a lot of us are tired of endless wars, including myself. I know a lot of people on here feel the same way. Hell, I know TripleA has said earlier in this thread. Second, a hell of a lot of us are tired of being the world's police force, which again includes myself. We do it because "we hate injustice" but really it's so certain people can get richer and richer. It's the same with this proxy war that's going nowhere. Besides, every time we've done so for a long time, we've gotten ridiculed for "being imperialists" by even or own allies. So again, like I've told SoMs Eagle, it's time for us to focus on our own problems.

And about Zelenskyy, I need to say this as well. I get that he's pissed off about war. But he should be directing his anger towards those who deserve it: Those who have been lying to him about Ukraine's chances of winning the war, and Putin-led Russia for invading Ukraine yet again. (They did it under Bush 43, Obama, and Biden. He didn't do that under Trump's first time as President.)

Lastly, I need to make this point: Putin is laughing on his way to the bank, so to speak, and it's because of Zelenskyy. If Zelenskyy had been cordial, we would've seen him as a victim of a needless invasion by a country who after the fall of the Soviet Union was supposed to help ensure its security (we along with Russia and the UK made a deal to make sure Ukraine's sovereignty was secure, and Russia broke it) as well as thankful for saving his life, both figuratively and literally. It's okay for him to be angry, as I've said. His anger, however, is misdirected.

He'll be lucky to survive a bloodless coup by members of his Parliament. Good luck, Zelenskyy.

To me, there is a MASSIVE difference between sending weapons and sending troops. In this case, had the REM deal been signed----we would not even be sending weapons---we would just be selling weapons (the tax payers would not be footing the bill). I have no interest in another Vietnam or sending troops anywhere--and I'd rather any aid not cost the tax payers anything (or at least be in the form of a secured loan that is to be repaid).

(02-28-2025 08:32 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(02-28-2025 08:19 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  

(02-28-2025 07:48 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(02-28-2025 07:21 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  

(02-28-2025 07:14 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  lol---you had to be in heaven today. This was literally your wet dream.

Wasnt able to see the whole thing---but from what I understand Z had a mineral deal that would have at least given the US some skin in the game in Ukriane----and most importantly---I also saw on Twitter that the first part of the oval talk made it clear the REM deal would also mean continued weapons supplies from the US. If thats the case, that was about the best this deal was ever going to be. No idea why Zelensky kept pushing for more security guarantees in public when he was just minutes away from signing a deal that would have given his people the ability to hold their own until the peace deal could be negotiated.

If that is all true---then your celebration may not be over. This was such an incompetent display I will not be shocked if Zelensky doesnt survive the week and is forced to resign by his government.

Because he's a snot-knows spoiled brat who was asking for yet another handout (in terms of money) and we finally cut him off. Besides, Biden pushed Putin (and Russia, since he's in charge of it) into China's arms. Trump's trying to play the long game and split the two of those up. He can't show his hand yet. That's what certain people don't understand. I think you do, but sometimes, what you say on here when it comes to this overall topic makes me wonder. (No offense, of course. lol) Like I said to SoMs Eagle, we have our own problems we need to be dealing with. There was no need for us to get involved in this.

That said, I'll say this once again. Both Putin and Zelenskyy are jerkoffs for different but legitimately equally damning reasons. We know about Putin. Now it's Zelenskyy's turn to be shown in the poor light he deserves.

FWIW---I agree it would be nice to undermine the alliance between Russia and China---but its naive to expect that is likley to happen. Its almost like saying "I sure wish those countries would stop doing whats in their best interests". There are multiple reasons the USA would very much prefer those two were not allied (im sure you can name a bunch of them)----and those reasons are EXACTLY why that alliance will be in place for probably decades to come. It only makes sense that they will be aligned until that alignment doesnt serve their interests (We'd do the same---and did).

Think about it----even if we become an isolationist nation and only stay in the western hemisphere in some sort of new world order of multi-polar modern colonialism ---Im hard pressed to see how Russia and China having their individual spheres of influence aligned together doesnt serve their best interests for quite some time to come. It basically does the same thing NATO did for the US over the last 7 decades. In fact---if we become an isolationist nation---that Russia-China Alliance may very well be the most powerful entity in the world....no idea if they will be as benevolent as we have been while holding that position.

First off, I need to say this: A hell of a lot of us are tired of endless wars, including myself. I know a lot of people on here feel the same way. Hell, I know TripleA has said earlier in this thread. Second, a hell of a lot of us are tired of being the world's police force, which again includes myself. We do it because "we hate injustice" but really it's so certain people can get richer and richer. It's the same with this proxy war that's going nowhere. Besides, every time we've done so for a long time, we've gotten ridiculed for "being imperialists" by even or own allies. So again, like I've told SoMs Eagle, it's time for us to focus on our own problems.

And about Zelenskyy, I need to say this as well. I get that he's pissed off about war. But he should be directing his anger towards those who deserve it: Those who have been lying to him about Ukraine's chances of winning the war, and Putin-led Russia for invading Ukraine yet again. (They did it under Bush 43, Obama, and Biden. He didn't do that under Trump's first time as President.)

Lastly, I need to make this point: Putin is laughing on his way to the bank, so to speak, and it's because of Zelenskyy. If Zelenskyy had been cordial, we would've seen him as a victim of a needless invasion by a country who after the fall of the Soviet Union was supposed to help ensure its security (we along with Russia and the UK made a deal to make sure Ukraine's sovereignty was secure, and Russia broke it) as well as thankful for saving his life, both figuratively and literally. It's okay for him to be angry, as I've said. His anger, however, is misdirected.

He'll be lucky to survive a bloodless coup by members of his Parliament. Good luck, Zelenskyy.

To me, there is a MASSIVE difference between sending weapons and sending troops. In this case, had the REM deal been signed----we would not even be sending weapons---we would just be selling weapons (the tax payers would not be footing the bill). [b] I have no interest in another Vietnam or sending troops anywhere--and I'd rather any aid not cost the tax payers anything (or at least be in the form of a secured loan that is to be repaid).[/b]

At least we're on the same page in that regard. So in my mind, that's something.

(02-28-2025 08:24 PM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  Trump and his sycophants have only undermined the standing of America in the world in the last month and a half. Verbally attacking Canada and Mexico. Verbally attacking our (former) allies in Europe. And driving away and a wedge between the United States and our former allies and neighbors. Our moral standing now is much less than it was just a month and a half ago. Under this President we are no longer a country that can be counted on. Don't be surprised if the United States is now separated from our former allies because they now see us it's not dependable and, at least with this administration, much closer to gangster States like Russia, China, North Korea and the others because we have a president who doesn't admire good or what's right but only projections of naked gangster type intimidation. That's who Trump is personally and that's who he admires. An insecure bully only picks easy targets. Zielinsky on the other hand is was fighting against an international murderer, for the life of his country, and with great personal risk to himself and is 10 times the man Trump is, was, or ever will be. As the free world turns against the United States I hope enough people take the time to ask themselves what's going on and reevaluate any kind of emotional attachment they have to that man. Nothing he does is an accident.. he's actually a horrible person.

#SlavaUkraine

Liberals are done. Zero perspective. They’re nuts.

Zelensky has had his hand out for years and biden has had a cash cow in Ukraine.

Trump isn’t playing those games. He’s got America’s back and we’re done writing checks for nothing in return.

It’s what needs to be done. Period. And Trump’s doing it.

Hannity and Baier both agreed that Zelenskyy was told by the Senators he met with this morning that the REM deal that he was supposed to have signed with Trump was part of a three-phase deal that would've ultimately resulted in a settlement.

Phase I - REM Deal.
Phase II - Ceasefire
Phase III - Settlement, which Hannity admits was going to be the hardest part.

Zelenskyy was minutes away from being on the first step to peace. He really, really stepped in it.

Also, one of the texts Jesse Watters read said that Trump had the meeting with Zelenskyy out in the open because when talking to him on the phone led to him getting impeached. I had to laugh at that.

(02-28-2025 04:16 PM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(02-28-2025 01:15 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  

(02-28-2025 01:14 PM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  I’m sorry but that was disgustingly bad. It reminded me of a conservative going on MSNBC. Trump and Vance have made this personal.
Does anyone believe after that little engagement that Zelinsky is in this for himself. He did not bend the knee and it obviously highly irritated Trump and Vance.

The only knee bending I saw here was the Trump administration bending the knee to Putin. Being scared of WWIII is not exactly a great position to start a strong negotiation. Putin warns of WWIII as a scare tactic and we have cowered in the corner. He has to be breathing a great sigh of relief after LHAO.

Just cut them off and deal with the consequences. Which will be the worst possible outcome.

lol bull****.

You know what? There are many here who are exactly what the idiot loons here claim they are. Trump bots. I am totally behind this administration on ALMOST everything. I’ll be damned if I will look through rose colored glasses like a Tommie Bois and fawn over a complete travesty that plays out in front of the world. It was absolutely ridiculous to do this in front of the press and gang up on a leader of a sovereign country. Anyone of you tell me Putin is not ecstatic this was done.

And to take advantage of a leader who is not proficient in English and make the statement that he wants to litigate this in front of the Americans when Zelinsky is not the one who allowed this to play out in front of the media is outrageous.

In the end it was Trump and Vance raising their voices. The whole episode was disgraceful. If the administration feels as they obviously do then just end our involvement. Trump will give Putin Ukraine. And then WWIII will absolutely be a real possibility.

Something tells me Zelensky has a short future ...

(02-28-2025 08:24 PM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  

(02-28-2025 06:01 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  

(02-28-2025 05:57 PM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  Trump is in Putin’s pocket and has been wanting to do this all along. Red meat for the MAGA base and a manufactured excuse to abandon Ukraine to a dictator. The whole thing looked manufactured, like a set up with JD Vance sitting there then Lindsey Graham coming out afterwards, who had always staunchly supported ukraine, with his prepared 180 on ukraine and knowing what he's going to say and how he's going to say it in lock step. Even the media jackal who condescendingly asked of Zelinsky had a suit, to the delight of everyone but Marco Rubio, was in on this middle school bullying. Trump is no better than Putin deep down. Hopefully people will begin to see that as more of his immorality shines.

The Democrats would like their 2016 Propaganda back.

Trump and his sycophants have only undermined the standing of America in the world in the last month and a half. Verbally attacking Canada and Mexico. Verbally attacking our (former) allies in Europe. And driving away and a wedge between the United States and our former allies and neighbors. Our moral standing now is much less than it was just a month and a half ago. Under this President we are no longer a country that can be counted on. Don't be surprised if the United States is now separated from our former allies because they now see us it's not dependable and, at least with this administration, much closer to gangster States like Russia, China, North Korea and the others because we have a president who doesn't admire good or what's right but only projections of naked gangster type intimidation. That's who Trump is personally and that's who he admires. An insecure bully only picks easy targets. Zielinsky on the other hand is was fighting against an international murderer, for the life of his country, and with great personal risk to himself and is 10 times the man Trump is, was, or ever will be. As the free world turns against the United States I hope enough people take the time to ask themselves what's going on and reevaluate any kind of emotional attachment they have to that man. Nothing he does is an accident.. he's actually a horrible person.

You could have just typed orange man bad.

Good luck with that bullshite. Go over and fight. Send your 401k. Send your son or daughter.

Prove you mean it.

(02-28-2025 06:13 PM)maximus Wrote:  

(02-28-2025 05:41 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(02-28-2025 05:12 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  

(02-28-2025 05:09 PM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  Happy Russia day!

Yall excuse Todor. He’s drunk.

Now let’s see if Trump really is “out”.

Now we can make that REM deal with Putin.

Again, Trump's aim is to SAVE LIVES! What part of that don't you understand? Is it the "save" part or the "lives" part? Heck, is it the exclamation point I used that you don't understand? Which is it, son? I ain't got all day.

And so does Zelensky. Trump doing this publicly makes it less likely to save lives.

I will personally pay to airdrop you to the front lines to fight for this little midget...

You in?

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Bunch of ZDS here. You say the US should be strong to stop aggression. But then you should allow others to take what they want? It encourages dictators to go further. We have seen it repeatedly in history.

While its fair to disagree, most of y'all seem as totally brain dead as the TDS people and can't even understand the argument. The super MAGA people goose step as well as progressive Democrats and Putin's armies.

(02-28-2025 09:29 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(02-28-2025 08:24 PM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  

(02-28-2025 06:01 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  

(02-28-2025 05:57 PM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  Trump is in Putin’s pocket and has been wanting to do this all along. Red meat for the MAGA base and a manufactured excuse to abandon Ukraine to a dictator. The whole thing looked manufactured, like a set up with JD Vance sitting there then Lindsey Graham coming out afterwards, who had always staunchly supported ukraine, with his prepared 180 on ukraine and knowing what he's going to say and how he's going to say it in lock step. Even the media jackal who condescendingly asked of Zelinsky had a suit, to the delight of everyone but Marco Rubio, was in on this middle school bullying. Trump is no better than Putin deep down. Hopefully people will begin to see that as more of his immorality shines.

The Democrats would like their 2016 Propaganda back.

Trump and his sycophants have only undermined the standing of America in the world in the last month and a half. Verbally attacking Canada and Mexico. Verbally attacking our (former) allies in Europe. And driving away and a wedge between the United States and our former allies and neighbors. Our moral standing now is much less than it was just a month and a half ago. Under this President we are no longer a country that can be counted on. Don't be surprised if the United States is now separated from our former allies because they now see us it's not dependable and, at least with this administration, much closer to gangster States like Russia, China, North Korea and the others because we have a president who doesn't admire good or what's right but only projections of naked gangster type intimidation. That's who Trump is personally and that's who he admires. An insecure bully only picks easy targets. Zielinsky on the other hand is was fighting against an international murderer, for the life of his country, and with great personal risk to himself and is 10 times the man Trump is, was, or ever will be. As the free world turns against the United States I hope enough people take the time to ask themselves what's going on and reevaluate any kind of emotional attachment they have to that man. Nothing he does is an accident.. he's actually a horrible person.

You could have just typed orange man bad.

Good luck with that bullshite. Go over and fight. Send your 401k. Send your son or daughter.

Prove you mean it.

You know she's not going to. She's a damn coward.

(02-28-2025 06:55 PM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  Seriously this will end up being a defining moment in history. Half or more of our country sides with an invading tyrant because it cost us money. Hopefully in the future it will not be American men slaughtered on a newly defined front. Then the money will seem insignificant.

As I just posted. A bunch of these people hate Ukraine so much they can't even comprehend the argument.

Thousands of people are getting killed daily. Slavi Ukraine. Yay.


Trump raised his voice. Reeeeeeeee


FFS.