(02-26-2025 01:17 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(02-26-2025 11:12 AM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  

(02-26-2025 11:07 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(02-25-2025 07:53 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(02-25-2025 07:36 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

This happens all day everyday out in the real world. Learn to code.

I feel empathy for people who for no fault of their own lose their jobs. It happened to me. However, the federal debt is at a dangerous level and it must be tamed.

The budget the Republicans just passed cuts spending by $2T and revenue by $4.5T increasing the debt.

Cutting spending actually increases the debt? What the hell is this? Girl math? I need a source for that. Better yet, I need a new thread for that.

Ball's in your court there, sparky.

Math. Second grade math. That is the answer to your question.

If you reduce tax revenue by 4.5T but only reduce spending by 2T you increase the federal deficit dummy.

Then we need to make even more spending cuts. Simple as that.

This is why we need a balanced budget amendment.

The part you are ignoring is that theoretically, by reducing the tax burden, you will increase spending, and thus, revenue. It's not a zero sum game.

(02-26-2025 01:23 PM)TripleA Wrote:  The part you are ignoring is that theoretically, by reducing the tax burden, you will increase spending, and thus, revenue. It's not a zero sum game.

Some people don't get that. That's okay. Besides, like I said, even if what he's saying is actually true, we should be cutting even more spending. Spending more than we've been taking in is what got us in this mess in the first place. (I know you know and have actually dealt with that first-hand back in the day so I'm probably preaching to the choir here.) But to simply do nothing about it at the risk of being uncomfortable with change is downright obstinate.

For those on the left squawking about this, I have something to say: "Life is hard. Get a helmet." - Candace Owens.

(02-26-2025 01:23 PM)TripleA Wrote:  The part you are ignoring is that theoretically, by reducing the tax burden, you will increase spending, and thus, revenue. It's not a zero sum game.

It is the simple calculus of Cause and effect .... most people never took calculus.

(02-26-2025 02:12 PM)Eldonabe Wrote:  

(02-26-2025 01:23 PM)TripleA Wrote:  The part you are ignoring is that theoretically, by reducing the tax burden, you will increase spending, and thus, revenue. It's not a zero sum game.

It is the simple calculus of Cause and effect .... most people never took calculus.

I made a B

(02-26-2025 02:19 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(02-26-2025 02:12 PM)Eldonabe Wrote:  

(02-26-2025 01:23 PM)TripleA Wrote:  The part you are ignoring is that theoretically, by reducing the tax burden, you will increase spending, and thus, revenue. It's not a zero sum game.

It is the simple calculus of Cause and effect .... most people never took calculus.

I made a B

I am sure Tommibois is an expert in this too, he will be along anytime now to call you a chucklehead because he knows better/

(02-26-2025 01:17 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(02-26-2025 11:12 AM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  

(02-26-2025 11:07 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(02-25-2025 07:53 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(02-25-2025 07:36 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

This happens all day everyday out in the real world. Learn to code.

I feel empathy for people who for no fault of their own lose their jobs. It happened to me. However, the federal debt is at a dangerous level and it must be tamed.

The budget the Republicans just passed cuts spending by $2T and revenue by $4.5T increasing the debt.

Cutting spending actually increases the debt? What the hell is this? Girl math? I need a source for that. Better yet, I need a new thread for that.

Ball's in your court there, sparky.

Math. Second grade math. That is the answer to your question.

If you reduce tax revenue by 4.5T but only reduce spending by 2T you increase the federal deficit dummy.

Of course you're including the revenue from the added economic growth which has been illustrated with tax cuts going back well over a half century, right? Or are you still a dinosaur relying on the ridiculous CBO?

Static scoring is dumb scoring. Well below second grade.

Get better information.

(02-26-2025 07:48 AM)memtigbb Wrote:  Yeah, no doubt it sucks to lose your job and with all the layoffs and even more layoffs coming, finding a new job might end up being difficult. Also, while there are too many government workers who are lazy AF and don't do their jobs, there is always that one who is busting ass and doing the work of 2 or 3 of the lazy people. It really sucks that there is no real way to weed out the workers who are just there wasting hours and the one or two who are doing all of the work. At the same time, we have to clean up all the waste.

Government workers definition

2 coming
2 going
2 sh!tting
2 mowing

Afterwards everyone realizes the 2 who actually did the work screwed up

Wash rinse repeat

(02-26-2025 03:46 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

Over paid and have no idea how to cope outside the DC beltway bubble island

I’m an accountant and I could get more money in the private sector

Missouri State Motto

Show Me

No instead you are seeking to talk to politicians

You look real smart about right now

(02-26-2025 07:48 AM)memtigbb Wrote:  It really sucks that there is no real way to weed out the workers who are just there wasting hours and the one or two who are doing all of the work.

In the year 2025 it really shouldn't be that hard.

(02-26-2025 01:23 PM)TripleA Wrote:  The part you are ignoring is that theoretically, by reducing the tax burden, you will increase spending, and thus, revenue. It's not a zero sum game.

You guys have been waiting on that trickle down since Ronnie. It didn’t work.

If you cut taxes on a poor person he might spend more. Cut taxes on the top 5% and they will just save more. The difference between making 500k and 800k is how much you stock away at Fidelity, standard of living is the same.

All of these tax cuts are regressive. The less money you make, the more of your money you spend, they larger the impact of Tariffs are. The people who are getting the tax cuts aren’t the kind of people who spend more because they made more.

NEVER FORGET: On Joe Biden’s First Day in Office He Shutdown Keystone Pipeline and Trump Border Wall Construction, Eliminating 52,100 Jobs!… NOT ONE Liberal or Mainstream Media Hack Shed a Single Tear

Quote:On his first day in office Joe Biden killed off an estimated 52,100 American jobs.

After his inaugural behind fences and 20,000 military troops, Biden hobbled to the Oval Officer where he signed several executive orders including the end of construction of the Keystone XL Pipeline and the end of construction of the Trump border wall.

Canceling the Keystone Pipeline costs over 11,000 construction jobs and 42,100 jobs throughout the US during the construction process according to the US State Department.

Canceling the Trump border wall will cost 10,000 jobs.

That’s a total of 52,100 good-paying construction jobs lost in Joe’s first 8 hours in office.

Gas prices in America then spiked to over $5 dollars a gallon. It was so bad Biden begged OPEC to release more oil – since he killed the Keystone.

NOT ONE single liberal shed a single tear for these men who were providing energy and security to America.

Today we have the liberal media staging scenes to pull heartstrings so that Americans will turn against President Trump and Elon Musk for cutting spending and saving America from its unsustainable debt.

You really cannot hate the legacy media enough!

Learn to Code

(02-26-2025 08:02 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(02-26-2025 01:23 PM)TripleA Wrote:  The part you are ignoring is that theoretically, by reducing the tax burden, you will increase spending, and thus, revenue. It's not a zero sum game.

You guys have been waiting on that trickle down since Ronnie. It didn’t work.

If you cut taxes on a poor person he might spend more. Cut taxes on the top 5% and they will just save more. The difference between making 500k and 800k is how much you stock away at Fidelity, standard of living is the same.

All of these tax cuts are regressive. The less money you make, the more of your money you spend, they larger the impact of Tariffs are. The people who are getting the tax cuts aren’t the kind of people who spend more because they made more.

https://budget.house.gov/press-release/d...g-families

"The truth is, the Trump tax cuts resulted in economic growth that was a full percentage point above CBO’s forecast, and federal revenues far outpaced the agency’s predictions. In fact, under Trump tax policies in 2022, tax revenues reached a record high of nearly $5 trillion, and revenues averaged $205 billion above CBO predictions for the four years following implementation of the law.

Beyond what the Trump tax cuts did for economic growth and federal revenues, it provided major benefits to working families. The officially reported poverty level fell to its lowest rate in 50 years and unemployment rates for minorities and those without a college degree hit all-time lows. Real median household income rose by $5,000, and wages went up by nearly 5 percent. Americans earning under $100,000 saw an average tax cut of 16 percent. And while the tax burden on low-income families went down, the top one percent saw their share of federal taxes go up."

(02-27-2025 02:41 PM)Eldonabe Wrote:  Learn to Code

They'd screw things up by misgendering ones and zero's.

(02-27-2025 02:50 PM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(02-26-2025 08:02 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(02-26-2025 01:23 PM)TripleA Wrote:  The part you are ignoring is that theoretically, by reducing the tax burden, you will increase spending, and thus, revenue. It's not a zero sum game.

You guys have been waiting on that trickle down since Ronnie. It didn’t work.

If you cut taxes on a poor person he might spend more. Cut taxes on the top 5% and they will just save more. The difference between making 500k and 800k is how much you stock away at Fidelity, standard of living is the same.

All of these tax cuts are regressive. The less money you make, the more of your money you spend, they larger the impact of Tariffs are. The people who are getting the tax cuts aren’t the kind of people who spend more because they made more.

https://budget.house.gov/press-release/d...g-families

"The truth is, the Trump tax cuts resulted in economic growth that was a full percentage point above CBO’s forecast, and federal revenues far outpaced the agency’s predictions. In fact, under Trump tax policies in 2022, tax revenues reached a record high of nearly $5 trillion, and revenues averaged $205 billion above CBO predictions for the four years following implementation of the law.

Beyond what the Trump tax cuts did for economic growth and federal revenues, it provided major benefits to working families. The officially reported poverty level fell to its lowest rate in 50 years and unemployment rates for minorities and those without a college degree hit all-time lows. Real median household income rose by $5,000, and wages went up by nearly 5 percent. Americans earning under $100,000 saw an average tax cut of 16 percent. And while the tax burden on low-income families went down, the top one percent saw their share of federal taxes go up."

Begone with the Facts....

ORANGE MAN BAD

My son works for the DOD in Philadelphia. There are 5K employees in his group.I talked to him yesterday and he said he got the 5 things email but also received orders to not reply.

His group received what he called the “fork in the road email” a month ago. The administration offered employees of his group 25K to resign. He refused the buyout because he isn’t sure the people will get paid.

My son said they let 300 go this week. One person on his team left a job to start with the DOD this past Monday and was let go yesterday.

I asked my son if he felt safe and he said “no”. I told him layoffs were part of every career. I reminded him of the plant closings and job changes I had been through when he was growing up.

My son has two advanced degrees. He won’t have a problem getting another job.

I told him to get his resume updated and start looking now. He said he had already started. I feel sorry for what my son may have to go through but he knows what I’ve always told him, “You’re hired to be fired”.