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Medicaid Cuts
https://www.forbes.com/sites/howardgleck...t-seniors/

Not sure how these will impact you, either directly or indirectly, but this is what is on the table in order to secure tax cuts in the upcoming GOP budget…

1. The biggest direct risk could come from cuts to Medicaid home-based care or other optional services. States are required only to provide Medicaid LTSS in nursing homes. Other benefits are provided through voluntary waivers. Congress or HHS could limit those home-based services. Home based LTSS ultimately sales money because the alternative, a nursing home, costs $8-9k per month, but its currently on the chopping block.

2. Congress also could extend the so-called lookback rule to limit Medicaid LTSS eligibility. Most states have both an income and asset test to determine whether someone is qualified to receive Medicaid LTSS. In most states, recipients are limited to no more than $2,000 in financial wealth. And Medicaid bars applicants from dropping below that limit by giving away or otherwise transferring funds within the last five years. Congressional Republicans may extend that look-back to 10 years or more.

3. States also could be forced to require heirs of Medicaid LTSS recipients to repay the program. For example, if someone receives $50,000 in Medicaid LTSS during their lifetime, their children would have to repay that $50,000 after their parent dies.

4. Directly cut the basic formula. The minimum basic federal contribution, called the Federal Medical Assistance Percentage or FMAP, is 50 percent. Removing that floor would cut federal spending by about $500 billion over 10 years. Reducing the rate for those who became eligible for Medicaid under the Affordable Care Act would save about $560 billion.


5. Cap the dollar amount the feds contribute. Currently, the federal contribution rises automatically as health and long-term care costs increase. With a cap, the feds would contribute a fixed dollar amount. The states would have to absorb any additional costs, either by raising taxes, reducing benefits, or cutting enrollment. Including a small adjustment for inflation, such a cap would save about $460 billion.


6. Impose a per-capita cap. This version would be similar to an overall limit on federal contributions, except it would be adjusted to reflect changes in Medicaid enrollment. It would slash the program by about $600 billion.
Bar states from taxing Medicaid providers, such as hospitals, home care agencies, and nursing homes. States use this provider tax to boost their Medicaid spending. This allows them to qualify for a bigger federal match without dipping into their general funds.
02-24-2025 08:50 AM
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It must be exhausting looking for things to ***** about constantly.
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(02-24-2025 09:04 AM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  It must be exhausting looking for things to ***** about constantly.

Those cuts, particularly relating to home health and nursing home care will have devastating impacts on generational wealth. Passing hundreds of thousands of dollars of nursing home care debt onto their children will bankrupt people and force seniors to live without the care they need in order to avoid passing on that debt. The gutting of home health will mean the end of programs that help keep elderly in their homes and living without a shred of dignity.

People need to understand what is being proposed. Everyone supports cutting waste, but the devil is literally in the details.
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So that's a yes?
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(02-24-2025 09:19 AM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  So that's a yes?

Yes
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I take it neither are facing these issues yet; but they are real and most families will be impacted directly or indirectly.
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He could have made his message much shorter and just said "Orange man bad".
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(02-24-2025 09:24 AM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  He could have made his message much shorter and just said "Orange man bad".

Exactly. It's anything to get Trump and his supporters at all costs.
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(02-24-2025 09:24 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  I take it neither are facing these issues yet; but they are real and most families will be impacted directly or indirectly.

And?
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Good

People living on government charity hiding wealth to keep from paying their damn bills deserve a fricking.

Was this supposed to scare responsible people?

Clown. I dont wanna pay your grandmas bills. Sorry.
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(02-24-2025 09:26 AM)shere khan Wrote:  Good

People living on government charity hiding wealth to keep from paying their damn bills deserve a fricking.

Was this supposed to scare responsible people?

Clown. I dont wanna pay your grandmas bills. Sorry.

62% of grandmas in nursing homes are on medicaid.
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(02-24-2025 09:37 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  
(02-24-2025 09:26 AM)shere khan Wrote:  Good

People living on government charity hiding wealth to keep from paying their damn bills deserve a fricking.

Was this supposed to scare responsible people?

Clown. I dont wanna pay your grandmas bills. Sorry.

62% of grandmas in nursing homes are on medicaid.

And full of waste, abuse and the care you would expect from a govt subsidized lowest bidder.

Their families need to take care of them and pay. What part of personal responsibility do you not understand?

People gotta get off the government. 62 frickin percent. That is obscene.

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These are all guesses. Also, I guesses from an article from almost 3 weeks ago.

Hopping straight to threats of how poor granny gets thrown off the cliff is how desperate these retards have become.

Close the thread

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(02-24-2025 09:13 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  
(02-24-2025 09:04 AM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  It must be exhausting looking for things to ***** about constantly.

Those cuts, particularly relating to home health and nursing home care will have devastating impacts on generational wealth. Passing hundreds of thousands of dollars of nursing home care debt onto their children will bankrupt people and force seniors to live without the care they need in order to avoid passing on that debt. The gutting of home health will mean the end of programs that help keep elderly in their homes and living without a shred of dignity.

People need to understand what is being proposed. Everyone supports cutting waste, but the devil is literally in the details.

I thought y'all hated generational wealth.
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RE: Medicaid Cuts
(02-24-2025 09:39 AM)shere khan Wrote:  
(02-24-2025 09:37 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  
(02-24-2025 09:26 AM)shere khan Wrote:  Good

People living on government charity hiding wealth to keep from paying their damn bills deserve a fricking.

Was this supposed to scare responsible people?

Clown. I dont wanna pay your grandmas bills. Sorry.

62% of grandmas in nursing homes are on medicaid.

And full of waste, abuse and the care you would expect from a govt subsidized lowest bidder.

Their families need to take care of them and pay. What part of personal responsibility do you not understand?

People gotta get off the government. 62 frickin percent. That is obscene.

07-coffee3

Most cannot afford the 8-9k per month for nursing home care; hell, most have never made 8-9k per month.

I would imagine most of the 62% of Medicaid recipients talked a tough “personal responsibility” game when they were working. The costs of aging, however, are very humbling. If we strip away pensions and healthcare plans for retirees in the public sector, as states are starting to do by banning collective bargaining, that 62% will grow much larger.
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lol…desperation of the lib loons…you clowns don’t have a clue why you lost
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(02-24-2025 09:37 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  
(02-24-2025 09:26 AM)shere khan Wrote:  Good

People living on government charity hiding wealth to keep from paying their damn bills deserve a fricking.

Was this supposed to scare responsible people?

Clown. I dont wanna pay your grandmas bills. Sorry.

62% of grandmas in nursing homes are on medicaid.

Remember when they had a cow that the ACA was going to "kill grandma?" 03-lmfao
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(02-24-2025 09:51 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  
(02-24-2025 09:39 AM)shere khan Wrote:  
(02-24-2025 09:37 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  
(02-24-2025 09:26 AM)shere khan Wrote:  Good

People living on government charity hiding wealth to keep from paying their damn bills deserve a fricking.

Was this supposed to scare responsible people?

Clown. I dont wanna pay your grandmas bills. Sorry.

62% of grandmas in nursing homes are on medicaid.

And full of waste, abuse and the care you would expect from a govt subsidized lowest bidder.

Their families need to take care of them and pay. What part of personal responsibility do you not understand?

People gotta get off the government. 62 frickin percent. That is obscene.

07-coffee3

Most cannot afford the 8-9k per month for nursing home care; hell, most have never made 8-9k per month.

I would imagine most of the 62% of Medicaid recipients talked a tough “personal responsibility” game when they were working. The costs of aging, however, are very humbling. If we strip away pensions and healthcare plans for retirees in the public sector, as states are starting to do by banning collective bargaining, that 62% will grow much larger.

Oh well. They should've invested in more children.
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(02-24-2025 09:24 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  I take it neither are facing these issues yet; but they are real and most families will be impacted directly or indirectly.

So most families that would mean 75% or more? I would think some families will be impacted more likely and in the range of 10%.
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Most people are living paycheck to paycheck, and more that ever since 2020.

I don't know what the answer is but I do know most people cannot afford to pay all their parents and grandparents medical bills late in life. And if most are living paycheck to paycheck they aren't going to be in position to prepare and save up for their own medical bills when they get that age.

As much as I despise the idea, I'm believing more and more that we are going to need some type of universal healthcare system, but I also know that the current models around the world are horrible. But too many Americans end up with medical emergencies or problems they can't remotely afford the care and medicines they require.

Its one of the more complicated issues we are facing. There is waste, fraud, massive unfair pricing, massive corruption from big pharma, etc. I don't know how to fix it but its something we have GOT to figure out.
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