Hmm, not everybody even agrees with the XP-4 gov experimental test theory. This was the same reason I originally didn't believe it was a gov test. Flying it over densely populated areas is insane for any test of this magnitude. That's not even debatable.

But for now, until more info comes out, I still think the XP-4 test makes the most sense. That also would explain why the drones are coming from or returning to the ocean.

Quote:Drone experts rule out US government experiment, unsure of other New Jersey drone phenomenon theories
Lack of a clear image or any residual hardware makes it difficult to make any guesses
By Morgan Phillips Fox News
Published December 13, 2024 3:28pm EST

Drone experts have little idea what the dozens of drone sightings over New Jersey could be, but have ruled out the possibility that they might be the work of a classified government program.

They say the lack of a clear image or any residual hardware makes it difficult to make any guesses.

"Until something is found, it’s really difficult to say," said Brett Velicovich, Fox News contributor and CEO of Expert Drones. "We haven’t seen any clear images."

The drone sightings were first reported nearly a month ago – on Nov. 18 – and have been spotted every night from about dusk until around 11 p.m.

The drones are "six feet in diameter," fly in a coordinated way with their lights off and "appear to avoid detection by traditional methods," according to New Jersey state Rep. Dawn Fantasia, who relayed a briefing given by law enforcement. Reports have ranged from four to 180 sightings per night, throughout New Jersey, New York, Pennsylvania and Connecticut.

With little information on their origin from law enforcement, public speculation has run wild.

Velicovich poured cold water on the idea that the drones could be part of a classified government test – one theory circulated to explain the lack of information shared with the public.

"I find it hard to believe," said Velicovich. "Maybe it started that way, and now people think everything they see is a drone . . . . I’ve seen a lot of images that look like planes.

But he said that when he worked on classified drone projects, the protocol was always to inform local police.

"There's a reason why we test stuff in Area 51 or all these remote locations, so that you don't have to cause public hysteria. And then when we would test stuff in cities, we would always, whenever we do secret exercises in cities, we would always inform the local police."

Stacie Pettyjohn, drone expert with the Center for New American Security, agreed. "They would be doing it on a military base or a testing facility. And you know, they're not overflying sort of sensitive industrial locations, like they have been in New Jersey."

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/drones-...experiment

Kirby still claiming it's not us.

“We don’t know who or what they are but they’re no threat.”

(12-14-2024 08:06 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  “We don’t know who or what they are but they’re no threat.”

This is a completely moronic answer. Don’t panic the populace anymore than they are now with moronic answers. Suppose they are Iranian and one has a dirty bomb under its wing? Just tell the American people what they are and what they are doing! They are obviously not some incredible super secret high tech machines. They are just drones for goodness sake.

(12-14-2024 10:14 AM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(12-14-2024 08:06 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  “We don’t know who or what they are but they’re no threat.”

This is a completely moronic answer. Don’t panic the populace anymore than they are now with moronic answers. Suppose they are Iranian and one has a dirty bomb under its wing? Just tell the American people what they are and what they are doing! They are obviously not some incredible super secret high tech machines. They are just drones for goodness sake.

They are Russian drones. Putin is personally flying them.

Send eleventy billion more to the Ukraine

Reeeeeeeeeeeee

(12-14-2024 10:15 AM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

That is a lens artifact. Camera man should have known that while recording. It is just atmosphere and lens when highly zoomed in.

They are back to it's not us but don't worry.

******* idiots.

(12-14-2024 10:18 AM)shere khan Wrote:  

(12-14-2024 10:14 AM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(12-14-2024 08:06 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  “We don’t know who or what they are but they’re no threat.”

This is a completely moronic answer. Don’t panic the populace anymore than they are now with moronic answers. Suppose they are Iranian and one has a dirty bomb under its wing? Just tell the American people what they are and what they are doing! They are obviously not some incredible super secret high tech machines. They are just drones for goodness sake.

They are Russian drones. Putin is personally flying them.

Send eleventy billion more to the Ukraine

Reeeeeeeeeeeee

You’re a broken dude. Proof that liberals are not the only ones with myopic focus.

(12-14-2024 10:26 AM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(12-14-2024 10:18 AM)shere khan Wrote:  

(12-14-2024 10:14 AM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(12-14-2024 08:06 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  “We don’t know who or what they are but they’re no threat.”

This is a completely moronic answer. Don’t panic the populace anymore than they are now with moronic answers. Suppose they are Iranian and one has a dirty bomb under its wing? Just tell the American people what they are and what they are doing! They are obviously not some incredible super secret high tech machines. They are just drones for goodness sake.

They are Russian drones. Putin is personally flying them.

Send eleventy billion more to the Ukraine

Reeeeeeeeeeeee

You’re a broken dude. Proof that liberals are not the only ones with myopic focus.

Xxoo

New Jersey is fighting back

Dude on Fox said these are obviously not drones owned by private interests, so that leaves us or another country.

He says it has to be us, testing something top secret, the feds aren't going to say jack, eventually they will finish testing and the drones will disappear, and they still won't say anything.

Also said there was a top secret DC meeting yesterday, peeps came out and all they would say is the public is in no danger.

Seems obvious.

(12-14-2024 10:36 AM)shere khan Wrote:  New Jersey is fighting back

You're not exactly a gracious winner.

(12-14-2024 11:15 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(12-14-2024 10:36 AM)shere khan Wrote:  New Jersey is fighting back

You're not exactly a gracious winner.

I dont feel like i won.

(12-14-2024 11:20 AM)shere khan Wrote:  

(12-14-2024 11:15 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(12-14-2024 10:36 AM)shere khan Wrote:  New Jersey is fighting back

You're not exactly a gracious winner.

I dont feel like i won.

Yeah, you did. Now you're just bayoneting the wounded, lol.

(12-14-2024 11:13 AM)TripleA Wrote:  Dude on Fox said these are obviously not drones owned by private interests, so that leaves us or another country.

He says it has to be us, testing something top secret, the feds aren't going to say jack, eventually they will finish testing and the drones will disappear, and they still won't say anything.

Also said there was a top secret DC meeting yesterday, peeps came out and all they would say is the public is in no danger.

Seems obvious.

That would rule out the XP-4 as thats not even remotely "top secret". There are videos all over YouTube from the company that builds them. I dont think thats what we are seeing---unless its perhaps a much enlarged version of the XP-4....Or it could be something completely different. Who knows. That said---I agree with the guy that said you dont test top secret stuff over a heavily populated area.

(12-14-2024 11:37 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(12-14-2024 11:13 AM)TripleA Wrote:  Dude on Fox said these are obviously not drones owned by private interests, so that leaves us or another country.

He says it has to be us, testing something top secret, the feds aren't going to say jack, eventually they will finish testing and the drones will disappear, and they still won't say anything.

Also said there was a top secret DC meeting yesterday, peeps came out and all they would say is the public is in no danger.

Seems obvious.

That would rule out the XP-4 as thats not even remotely "top secret". There are videos all over YouTube from the company that builds them. I dont think thats what we are seeing---unless its perhaps a much enlarged version of the XP-4....Or it could be something completely different. Who knows. That said---I agree with the guy that said you dont test top secret stuff over a heavily populated area.

I said that (maybe others, too), but IDK that it isn't the XP-4. The fact they are flying back and forth over the ocean would say yes.

Flight testing over the densely populated lab rat proletariat. Genius.

(12-14-2024 11:42 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Flight testing over the densely populated lab rat proletariat. Genius.

Yeah, that's been my problem all along.

Not to mention keeping everybody in the dark.