(12-13-2024 11:03 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(12-12-2024 10:36 AM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  

(12-11-2024 07:30 PM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote:  

(12-11-2024 05:48 PM)450bench Wrote:  

(12-11-2024 02:10 PM)Ohio Poly Wrote:  Denying health care for corporate profits and outlandish executive pay is indeed sick.

Not as sick as people who don’t condemn murdering another human being. Not even close. Good Lord.

Did those denied claims not lead to severe pain death for some? Last time I was part of a company that had United healthcare we got to got to watch a coworker, with a terminal diagnosis, live his last few months in agonizing pain because UHC denied the medication. Health care should not be for profit.

I am not saying the killing was right but for all those trying to call out libs on this one I bet you did not feel the same way about George Zimmerman or Kyle Rittenhouse

Outside of that personal anecdote, is there an article detailing the unfair practices that have been documented? If so, I’d like to read it.

Each case is different, and each insurer has guidelines and rules up front about what they will cover. I’m honestly curious.

https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/unit...age-claims

What does that have to do with a man being shot in the back?

(12-13-2024 11:03 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(12-12-2024 10:36 AM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  

(12-11-2024 07:30 PM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote:  

(12-11-2024 05:48 PM)450bench Wrote:  

(12-11-2024 02:10 PM)Ohio Poly Wrote:  Denying health care for corporate profits and outlandish executive pay is indeed sick.

Not as sick as people who don’t condemn murdering another human being. Not even close. Good Lord.

Did those denied claims not lead to severe pain death for some? Last time I was part of a company that had United healthcare we got to got to watch a coworker, with a terminal diagnosis, live his last few months in agonizing pain because UHC denied the medication. Health care should not be for profit.

I am not saying the killing was right but for all those trying to call out libs on this one I bet you did not feel the same way about George Zimmerman or Kyle Rittenhouse

Outside of that personal anecdote, is there an article detailing the unfair practices that have been documented? If so, I’d like to read it.

Each case is different, and each insurer has guidelines and rules up front about what they will cover. I’m honestly curious.

https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/unit...age-claims

Thanks, there is some damning stuff in there.

I’m not denying that there are unfair practices, but the denial rate used to not even be as high as the industry average is now. There has to be a study on this somewhere, but I can’t find anything.

(12-11-2024 02:10 PM)Ohio Poly Wrote:  Denying health care for corporate profits and outlandish executive pay is indeed sick.

So, in your opinion, does your statement above give anyone permission to carry out premeditated murder?

No healthcare executives were cowardly executed prior to obamacare.

Prog filth are who we thought they were.

(12-13-2024 11:33 AM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  

(12-13-2024 11:03 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(12-12-2024 10:36 AM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  

(12-11-2024 07:30 PM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote:  

(12-11-2024 05:48 PM)450bench Wrote:  Not as sick as people who don’t condemn murdering another human being. Not even close. Good Lord.

Did those denied claims not lead to severe pain death for some? Last time I was part of a company that had United healthcare we got to got to watch a coworker, with a terminal diagnosis, live his last few months in agonizing pain because UHC denied the medication. Health care should not be for profit.

I am not saying the killing was right but for all those trying to call out libs on this one I bet you did not feel the same way about George Zimmerman or Kyle Rittenhouse

Outside of that personal anecdote, is there an article detailing the unfair practices that have been documented? If so, I’d like to read it.

Each case is different, and each insurer has guidelines and rules up front about what they will cover. I’m honestly curious.

https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/unit...age-claims

Thanks, there is some damning stuff in there.

I’m not denying that there are unfair practices, but the denial rate used to not even be as high as the industry average is now. There has to be a study on this somewhere, but I can’t find anything.

of course, there is ... that was muh point in post #2 (when muh was 'accused' in a latter post) .. from there it's been nothing but another fockall from nuts zongo...

one is nothing but fumigation worthy if they pull for murder ... torture in the dens is so much better ...

@theSadist

(12-13-2024 01:15 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(12-13-2024 11:33 AM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  

(12-13-2024 11:03 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(12-12-2024 10:36 AM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  

(12-11-2024 07:30 PM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote:  Did those denied claims not lead to severe pain death for some? Last time I was part of a company that had United healthcare we got to got to watch a coworker, with a terminal diagnosis, live his last few months in agonizing pain because UHC denied the medication. Health care should not be for profit.

I am not saying the killing was right but for all those trying to call out libs on this one I bet you did not feel the same way about George Zimmerman or Kyle Rittenhouse

Outside of that personal anecdote, is there an article detailing the unfair practices that have been documented? If so, I’d like to read it.

Each case is different, and each insurer has guidelines and rules up front about what they will cover. I’m honestly curious.

https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/unit...age-claims

Thanks, there is some damning stuff in there.

I’m not denying that there are unfair practices, but the denial rate used to not even be as high as the industry average is now. There has to be a study on this somewhere, but I can’t find anything.

of course, there is ... that was muh point in post #2 (when muh was 'accused' in a latter post) .. from there it's been nothing but another fockall from nuts zongo...

one is nothing but fumigation worthy if they pull for murder ... torture in the dens is so much better ...

@theSadist

The government never does studies on matters arising from auspices of a major benefactor to their campaign funds, or offshore accounts. Obamacare was a huge win for Big Pharma and Heathcare. Until the Affordable Care Act treatment given without the basis of pay being established was a mandate. Once having to have some form of medical insurance was made law then the truly indigent were just people in violation of the law. Many providers continued to treat the indigent but a legal dodge not to do so had been created by the Affordable Care Act itself. The indigent had become lawbreakers and technically care for them was almost akin to aiding and abetting a criminal. But what the hell, the great uniter gave everyone affordable care right? Wrong!!! Temp services sprang up like wildfire to glean some of the revenue from those desperate to have any job and they helped enforce withholding for the A.C.Act. People in a local minimum wage job were set up as temps so that the corporations hiring them didn't have to cover any of the costs outside of the crappy wages and the Temp Service handled the paperwork and withholding. People with a family of four who were working minimum wage were being docked for a ball cap and t-shirt with the Temp Service's logo or name on it, and though many of them took home less than 1400 dollars for the month they were paying up to 750 for the health care plan which was bare bones. What made it worse for them were the Obama administrations regulations on Temp Services where if the employee stayed longer at one work site than 45 or 60 days, I can't remember now what that limit was, but there was one, they had to be moved to another site or the company had to employ them and not the Temp Service. Many hard workers were summarily shifted to other industries so the corporations employing the Temp service didn't have to hire a worker and provide any benefits.

Now this system truly sucked for the poor, but by God, it was not born of Trump's first administration, but by the Democrats and Obama. And nothing more infuriating exists than a media that glosses those atrocities in order to blame the innocent. Trump made some mistakes in his first term, but most of them were by trying to tackle the wrong things first. Obamacare will lead to further issues. But the insurance companies helped cover the banking crisis at the end of W's administration and Obamacare was a perk/payback to those insurance companies which while not named for the healthcare companies nevertheless underwrite them or are affiliated with them by corporate associations.

Want to find a suck-up to the Super Wealthy? You need look no further than the Bush political tree and the Clinton/Obama political tree. You will note who sat with whom for H.W.'s funeral. The Carters sat to themselves, the Trumps weren't invited and I can't remember now if he went anyway or not, and the W's, Obamas, and Clintons all sat together. A more telling picture I have never seen.

Carter was trashed by his own party because he wasn't beltway business as usual. Trump's first administration was treated even more harshly for the same reasons, but each were sabotaged in their own unique way.

We've long talked about PAC money going to both sides of the aisle. Some of the corporate political think tanks were shared as well like the one that H.W. and Slick Willie attended. There are no accidents. A friend of mine and mentor who was once Governor stated to me when I was wet behind the ears that we didn't have a two party system. What we had were two different stables owned by the same Corporation and one had red silks and one blue silks, and the two horses ran against each other but the same Corporation won every time. When H.W. grandfathered the Republican and Democratic parties into each of the 50 states qualification to be on the ballot he reduced those two parties overhead to qualify x 50 over the expense to any independent. Never was there a greater blow struck against democracy and free elections than that legislation. It made it impossible for independents to run unless they were billionaires and that legislation was aimed at stopping another Perot. Under W the Supreme Court ruled that Corporations had the same rights as citizens. That was another dark day for us as it essentially legitimized the use of Corporate PAC money to influence elections.

Loyalties define candidates for me, not the party banner or silks they run under. Those loyal to the status quo like H.W., W., Clinton, Obama, and Biden are on one side regardless of what color they represent (red or blue). Those for the citizens and the Constitution are on the other. And when they run for president, unless like minded people are sent to the Senate or the House, they can't get anything done and are blamed for everything.

It sucks, but we need to change it. The CEO that was killed was at the bottom of the Corporate food chain with his company. What wrong he could have done was minimized by those above him and the wrongs he had to live with were not his own.

The industry against which this domestic terrorist struck was inconsequential and the man he killed powerless for the most part. The Hydra which is Conglomerate owned Corporations will replace him, grieve him not, and see the next man in that position as a buffer. The rich Ivy educated ******* who killed him accomplished absolutely nothing for his cause. Let him suck on that while his butt rots in a jail cell.

individuals who commit murder often show reduced gray matter in specific brain regions associated with emotional processing, behavioral control, and social cognition, suggesting an underdevelopment in these areas compared to the general population;

Did a research paper in Grad school on this topic.

What I found most interesting is the brain can erode or develop abnormalities no matter what age. There are signs usually erratic behavior no normal for the person by people who know them.

Signs were all there but only rarely will people step in before disaster occurs.

I presume state prison where he will be kept with the worst of the worst

Definitely a dead end road that medication possibly could’ve prevented. Ironically the killer attacked the symbol that will now become his own personal hell called prison with no way out anytime soon.

And, as a former co worker in Paroles told me people only forget once a generation has passed.

(12-13-2024 03:22 PM)BlueDragon Wrote:  individuals who commit murder often show reduced gray matter in specific brain regions associated with emotional processing, behavioral control, and social cognition, suggesting an underdevelopment in these areas compared to the general population;

Did a research paper in Grad school on this topic.

What I found most interesting is the brain can erode or develop abnormalities no matter what age. There are signs usually erratic behavior no normal for the person by people who know them.

Signs were all there but only rarely will people step in before disaster occurs.

I presume state prison where he will be kept with the worst of the worst

Definitely a dead end road that medication possibly could’ve prevented. Ironically the killer attacked the symbol that will now become his own personal hell called prison with no way out anytime soon.

And, as a former co worker in Paroles told me people only forget once a generation has passed.

interesting and can see the interest in that dichotomy ... the 'why' variables still exist and hide from 'detection until it's too late/too ignored/too buried for too many...
w
yeah, that research is still valid ... what I'm afraid is the AI gen will yield nothing but visual whizdumb > wisdom...

"idiocracy is the worst movie ever made ... but the best in predictability." - former sig line 1b)

(12-13-2024 03:33 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(12-13-2024 03:22 PM)BlueDragon Wrote:  individuals who commit murder often show reduced gray matter in specific brain regions associated with emotional processing, behavioral control, and social cognition, suggesting an underdevelopment in these areas compared to the general population;

Did a research paper in Grad school on this topic.

What I found most interesting is the brain can erode or develop abnormalities no matter what age. There are signs usually erratic behavior no normal for the person by people who know them.

Signs were all there but only rarely will people step in before disaster occurs.

I presume state prison where he will be kept with the worst of the worst

Definitely a dead end road that medication possibly could’ve prevented. Ironically the killer attacked the symbol that will now become his own personal hell called prison with no way out anytime soon.

And, as a former co worker in Paroles told me people only forget once a generation has passed.

interesting and can see the interest in that dichotomy ... the 'why' variables still exist and hide from 'detection until it's too late/too ignored/too buried for too many...
w
yeah, that research is still valid ... what I'm afraid is the AI gen will yield nothing but visual whizdumb > wisdom...

"idiocracy is the worst movie ever made ... but the best in predictability." - former sig line 1b)

Perhaps Blue Dragon explains this, but I would offer another causation. He grew up spoiled, likely outside of the belief in any higher power than government, was educated at an Ivy school where the radical left teaches the ends justify the means and where social approval and ego biscuits are handed out like merit badges for misdeeds done in the name of whatever cause. I purport that he was habituated into this line of reasoning and thought he would be a cult hero, which by the way the social media has attempted to do. Perhaps the causation is a godless upbringing coupled with indoctrination into a radical viewpoint of how to make your life count and to be a martyr for whatever bull**** cause they push.

Of course he grew up spoiled. Likely surrounded by country club liberals who are the ******* worst.

(12-13-2024 03:53 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Of course he grew up spoiled. Likely surrounded by country club liberals who are the ******* worst.

in the blue states, that's a gimme putt ... they love 'em some slavery...

the red states .. it's XACLY! the oppo ... they learned lessons in more ways than even I thought possible back in '74...

incentivize > any other ... I'll say it 'til I see the atomic level (after the worms bellies fill ... )

(12-13-2024 11:52 AM)shere khan Wrote:  

Said it repeatedly at the time-

You think healthcare is expensive now, just wait til it's "free". Not a single commie would listen.

Now they want to piss and moan bout the cost of tuitions, well guess what happened there.

No one wondered why the Fed Gubment was so anxious to take over college loan programs. I said it repeatedly at the time. Not a single commie cared.

Pssst, so the interest on bloated gender studies loans could pay for...

Other peoples healthcare. :shhhhhhh:.

The commies won't learn

Simple med procedure cost. 100 dollars

Obamacare says we will pay you half that.
Ins says we will pay 1/4th of that.

New cost for simple med procedure cost 250 dollars.

Reeeeeeeeseeee
We need free healthcare

Retards.

We have a lazy stupid people wanting free shite problem

Back to the killer and his motivation. At his last known residence in Hawaii, he complained online of severe back pain, and even showed x-rays of screws placed in his spine. Complained bitterly about how his life had been ruined.

However, since the shooting, people who knew him have said that he was still doing all kinds of strenuous outdoor activities such as climbing, surfing, swimming, etc., and appeared to be fine.

Then he disappeared last summer and wasn't seen again until he was arrested in PA.

And of course, Mangione was not even a client of the company whose CEO he just assassinated.

I would say the only screws he has are the ones that went loose in his brain.

(12-12-2024 01:25 PM)maximus Wrote:  

(12-11-2024 09:40 PM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote:  

(12-11-2024 08:14 PM)maximus Wrote:  

(12-11-2024 07:30 PM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote:  

(12-11-2024 05:48 PM)450bench Wrote:  Not as sick as people who don’t condemn murdering another human being. Not even close. Good Lord.

Did those denied claims not lead to severe pain death for some? Last time I was part of a company that had United healthcare we got to got to watch a coworker, with a terminal diagnosis, live his last few months in agonizing pain because UHC denied the medication. Health care should not be for profit.

I am not saying the killing was right but for all those trying to call out libs on this one I bet you did not feel the same way about George Zimmerman or Kyle Rittenhouse

What in the literal effing point are you trying to make.

If I'm not mistaken, you and your limp dick married a doctor... right?

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As always mistaken.

So you haven't claimed you married a doctor?

Or was it some other type of healthcare provider ?

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Did you lose your brain or ability to type?

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(12-13-2024 04:50 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Back to the killer and his motivation. At his last known residence in Hawaii, he complained online of severe back pain, and even showed x-rays of screws placed in his spine. Complained bitterly about how his life had been ruined.

However, since the shooting, people who knew him have said that he was still doing all kinds of strenuous outdoor activities such as climbing, surfing, swimming, etc., and appeared to be fine.

Then he disappeared last summer and wasn't seen again until he was arrested in PA.

And of course, Mangione was not even a client of the company whose CEO he just assassinated.

I would say the only screws he has are the ones that went loose in his brain.

So he is a pu$$y

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His friends say his back was so messed up he still rock climbs, hikes and surfs. He looked ok to on video getting away after shooting an unarmed man in the back and when he had his little temper tantrum on his perp walk.

(12-13-2024 05:58 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  His friends say his back was so messed up he still rock climbs, hikes and surfs. He looked ok to on video getting away after shooting an unarmed man in the back and when he had his little temper tantrum on his perp walk.

Hmm, where have I heard that before?

(hint: 3 posts up from yours)