(12-13-2024 09:12 AM)b2b Wrote:  

(12-13-2024 08:40 AM)TripleA Wrote:  Fox has a US drone expert on live now. He says most of the objects he has seen on film are small planes, not large drones.

Quote from him: "Definitely do not be worried."

I'm not convinced.

oh ffs
"expert"

Well, he BUILDS them. But like I said, I don't believe him that most of those are planes.

(12-13-2024 09:49 AM)PlainTiger Wrote:  

(12-13-2024 09:04 AM)shere khan Wrote:  

(12-13-2024 08:56 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(12-13-2024 08:52 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  If they are small planes explain the ones that the light turn off of.

Release their tail numbers to prove it since at some point one or more of the following systems will be tracking even small fly by sight aircraft in each of the 21 national sectors:

ATCSCC
ARTCC
TRACON
ATCT
FSS

Night Visual Flight Rules don't require flight plans but do require certification and generally a transponder.

This isn't hard to verify if the government wants to verify it.

I had the same thought. And that dude doesn't work for the government. He builds drones.

He is thinking like a drone builder. He knows we don't have drones like that, so he defaults to small planes as the explanation.

12 gauge, 2 3/4 shells? My old 1100 can shoot those! Where can I order a case of these?

NJ residents are quickly getting to that point...

https://www.foxnews.com/us/drones-myster...doesnt-act

I can't believe you guys are making me agree with Shere. It is clearly the government or a government contractor testing something. If it was anything else they would have the Air Force and National Guard out there taking them down.

(12-13-2024 10:40 AM)mlb Wrote:  I can't believe you guys are making me agree with Shere. It is clearly the government or a government contractor testing something. If it was anything else they would have the Air Force and National Guard out there taking them down.

Like they did the Chinese spy balloons?

And only an imbecile would test anything like that over heavily populated areas with major air traffic.

(12-13-2024 10:43 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(12-13-2024 10:40 AM)mlb Wrote:  I can't believe you guys are making me agree with Shere. It is clearly the government or a government contractor testing something. If it was anything else they would have the Air Force and National Guard out there taking them down.

Like they did the Chinese spy balloons?

And only an imbecile would test anything like that over heavily populated areas with major air traffic.

If they are low level drones like people claim then they are not anywhere close to an issue with air traffic. They ultimately did take out the spy balloon once it was away from a populated area.

In my area of Ohio I used to see UAVs all the time, and there is a lot of AF traffic plus commercial traffic. They test all the time in populated areas.

(12-13-2024 10:48 AM)mlb Wrote:  

(12-13-2024 10:43 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(12-13-2024 10:40 AM)mlb Wrote:  I can't believe you guys are making me agree with Shere. It is clearly the government or a government contractor testing something. If it was anything else they would have the Air Force and National Guard out there taking them down.

Like they did the Chinese spy balloons?

And only an imbecile would test anything like that over heavily populated areas with major air traffic.

If they are low level drones like people claim then they are not anywhere close to an issue with air traffic. They ultimately did take out the spy balloon once it was away from a populated area.

In my area of Ohio I used to see UAVs all the time, and there is a lot of AF traffic plus commercial traffic. They test all the time in populated areas.

Yeah...they let that balloon fly over the pan urban sprawls of Montana (when they finally came clean about it), NE corner of Wyoming. Western South Dakota, into Nebraska...

They didn't do anything until it got to the coast but it wasn't due to it being over populated areas.

Reminder: your government thinks you are stupid.

I'm just waiting for the report when one of them "accidentally" crashes where Trump is. ...and then they tell us that it was an Iranian drone with explosives.

I trust the government like I trust satan, one and the same.

It's either a top secret government project or an adversary......also drones are the new weapons of war.

Sent from my SM-S928U using Tapatalk

(12-13-2024 11:34 AM)hburg Wrote:  It's either a top secret government project or an adversary......also drones are the new weapons of war.

Which is why they need to test in real world scenarios.

(12-12-2024 06:06 PM)shere khan Wrote:  Its frickin been clear to me

They know

Its the govt.

They are testing frickin drones.

Heard this morning the same thing happened over Rammstein AFB a few months ago.. it just didn't get reported.

SO yeah, the US Military (and /or) govt. is testing drones. EOS.

(12-13-2024 11:42 AM)mlb Wrote:  

(12-13-2024 11:34 AM)hburg Wrote:  It's either a top secret government project or an adversary......also drones are the new weapons of war.

Which is why they need to test in real world scenarios.

That is ridiculous. You NEVER test anything that can cause major harm in urban areas like that. They're flying in the freaking sky, above everything. They're not dodging in and out between buildings.

Also, what are current uses of drones? Cameras? Guns? Bombs? Gathering other Intel? Whatever...That can all be accomplished elsewhere.

Sorry, but testing doesn't make sense.

I think the drones are there b/c they're gathering Intel, or some related nefarious function, that's where they want to be, and our idiot gov, just like with the Chinese spy balloons, are too paralyzed by indecision, or too stupid to do anything about it.

(12-13-2024 11:46 AM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  

(12-12-2024 06:06 PM)shere khan Wrote:  Its frickin been clear to me

They know

Its the govt.

They are testing frickin drones.

Heard this morning the same thing happened over Rammstein AFB a few months ago.. it just didn't get reported.

SO yeah, the US Military (and /or) govt. is testing drones. EOS.

If they are TESTING drones over highly populated areas with high air traffic, then they are effing morons. Oh wait...

OTOH, that might be why they are only flying at night, though. BUT, if that's the case, then they should tell us and not lie. Oh wait...

It's gov't surveillance. They're trying to normalize this ****. Once people get over the initial shock of it and see it's "harmless" it's much easier to implement full scale. That's why it's happening over densely populated areas. They WANT to be seen. They just don't want to admit what's actually going on so they act like they have no idea.

At this point, it's such a stupid situation, I'm willing to believe almost any theory. Especially with the Biden admin running things.

Whatever it turns out to be, it's not going to make them look good.

(12-13-2024 12:02 PM)b2b Wrote:  It's gov't surveillance. They're trying to normalize this ****. Once people get over the initial shock of it and see it's "harmless" it's much easier to implement full scale. That's why it's happening over densely populated areas. They WANT to be seen. They just don't want to admit what's actually going on so they act like they have no idea.

I wonder if it'll continue once Trumps people get in? If they do, what will THEY do?

(12-13-2024 12:05 PM)TripleA Wrote:  At this point, it's such a stupid situation, I'm willing to believe almost any theory. Especially with the Biden admin running things.

Whatever it turns out to be, it's not going to make them look good.

It is likely Biden and the other top government officials have no idea of whatever the project is. Just like most other things that the military industrial complex designs.

(12-13-2024 12:07 PM)mlb Wrote:  

(12-13-2024 12:05 PM)TripleA Wrote:  At this point, it's such a stupid situation, I'm willing to believe almost any theory. Especially with the Biden admin running things.

Whatever it turns out to be, it's not going to make them look good.

It is likely Biden and the other top government officials have no idea of whatever the project is. Just like most other things that the military industrial complex designs.

That, too.

(12-13-2024 12:06 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  

(12-13-2024 12:02 PM)b2b Wrote:  It's gov't surveillance. They're trying to normalize this ****. Once people get over the initial shock of it and see it's "harmless" it's much easier to implement full scale. That's why it's happening over densely populated areas. They WANT to be seen. They just don't want to admit what's actually going on so they act like they have no idea.

I wonder if it'll continue once Trumps people get in? If they do, what will THEY do?

It will mysteriously stop sometime between now and when Trump takes office. They'll either act like it never happened or make up some BS explanation. They're testing it now while they have a chance.

(12-13-2024 12:13 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(12-13-2024 12:07 PM)mlb Wrote:  

(12-13-2024 12:05 PM)TripleA Wrote:  At this point, it's such a stupid situation, I'm willing to believe almost any theory. Especially with the Biden admin running things.

Whatever it turns out to be, it's not going to make them look good.

It is likely Biden and the other top government officials have no idea of whatever the project is. Just like most other things that the military industrial complex designs.

That, too.

Yup. Of the explanations floated so far---none make much sense to me once you ask a few basic questions. Many are assuming they are ours because they arent being shot down----but if the Biden Administration didnt shoot down the Chinese balloon over the vacant spaces of Montana for fear of damage/injury to innocents (they waited until it was over open ocean), they certainly arent going to shoot down SUV sized drones over heavily populated areas.

Could they be foreign? Yes. Could they be ours? Yes. Could they be hobby drone builders---I doubt it---not many hobby drone builders making drones that size. Could they be aliens---I mean I guess so---but nothing the drones are doing seems to indicate tech beyond our reach---so Im not really thinking thats the answer.

The one answer that still makes sense to me is these are OUR drones and they are searching for something---but the government believes revealing whatever they are searching for would create too much of a panic----so they do not want to make it public. Say the drones are doing a radiological search of the areas because they have intel suggesting a small nuke or dirty bomb has been smuggled into the area. It could be something else they are looking for---Im just using a suitcase nuke as an example.