Quote:It would appear that the media has made itself irrelevant to the American people by a large degree.

According to a new Gallup poll, a strikingly small number of the American public actually have any faith at all in the media, almost in line with the amount of trust people have in the Federal government:

Americans continue to register record-low trust in the mass media, with 31% expressing a “great deal” or “fair amount” of confidence in the media to report the news “fully, accurately and fairly,” similar to last year’s 32%. Americans’ trust in the media -- such as newspapers, television and radio -- first fell to 32% in 2016 and did so again last year.

For the third consecutive year, more U.S. adults have no trust at all in the media (36%) than trust it a great deal or fair amount. Another 33% of Americans express “not very much” confidence.

It's been a striking, multi-decade decline, as Gallup notes. It originally asked back in 1972. Back then, trust was in the 70s, even peaking at 72 percent in 1976, but as you can see from the graph above, a steep decline began that had it down to 53 percent by 1997.

Trust in the media took its largest dip in 2016, when Trump was the popular Republican choice. The media shamelessly lied consistently, whittling away its support from the American public. It would recover slightly in 2018, but around 2020 the decline began anew. Now, in 2024, trust is only at 31 percent.

Gallup notes that there is a huge partisan divide in trust. Republicans trust the media at only 12 percent and Independents are only at 27 percent. Democrats, naturally, make up the bulk of America's trust in the media at 57 percent. This is telling, as it displays that the media's bias is pleasing to leftists. Still, the fact that the number isn't higher shows that even many on the left don't trust it due to its obvious bias.

As far as age groups go, the Boomer generation and older seem to have the most trust in the media at 43 percent, while Millennials and Gen Z have the least at 26 percent. Gen X has only 33 percent trust in the media.

Gallup notes that the trust in the media is below even America's trust in the federal government:

The news media is the least trusted group among 10 U.S. civic and political institutions involved in the democratic process. The legislative branch of the federal government, consisting of the U.S. Senate and House of Representatives, is rated about as poorly as the media, with 34% trusting it.

In contrast, majorities of U.S. adults express at least a fair amount of trust in their local government to handle local problems (67%), their state government to address state problems (55%), and the American people as a whole when it comes to making judgments under our democratic system about the issues facing the country (54%).

Between 40% and 48% of Americans trust the judicial branch headed by the U.S. Supreme Court, men and women in political life, the federal government’s handling of international problems, and the executive branch led by the president. Fewer U.S. adults trust the federal government’s handling of domestic problems (37%).

This should be a wake-up call for the corporate media, but it's highly unlikely the message will sink in for some time, if ever. The media is driving itself into irrelevance by continuing to lie to the American people during an age where said lies are easily disprovable thanks to the internet.

It's also thanks to the internet that the media is becoming increasingly unnecessary as citizen journalists have become faster and more accurate. The internet allows anyone with a camera to become an eyewitness who gets the news out quickly, sometimes going live to show it happening in real time.

At this point, the media a lumbering propaganda machine with decreasing value.

Link

Maybe they should try... oh, I don't know... telling the truth?

(10-14-2024 01:49 PM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  Maybe they should try... oh, I don't know... telling the truth?

They think they are telling the truth already.

That’s why the situation is almost impossible to change. People in media think they’re doing solid work, and that the problem is with the audience.

31% of Americans trust the media?

So, 31% of Americans are COMPLETE idiots. Got it.

News people say what they're told to say for a paycheck. They don't care if it's the truth or not.

(10-14-2024 01:19 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

Quote:It would appear that the media has made itself irrelevant to the American people by a large degree.

According to a new Gallup poll, a strikingly small number of the American public actually have any faith at all in the media, almost in line with the amount of trust people have in the Federal government:

Americans continue to register record-low trust in the mass media, with 31% expressing a “great deal” or “fair amount” of confidence in the media to report the news “fully, accurately and fairly,” similar to last year’s 32%. Americans’ trust in the media -- such as newspapers, television and radio -- first fell to 32% in 2016 and did so again last year.

For the third consecutive year, more U.S. adults have no trust at all in the media (36%) than trust it a great deal or fair amount. Another 33% of Americans express “not very much” confidence.

It's been a striking, multi-decade decline, as Gallup notes. It originally asked back in 1972. Back then, trust was in the 70s, even peaking at 72 percent in 1976, but as you can see from the graph above, a steep decline began that had it down to 53 percent by 1997.

Trust in the media took its largest dip in 2016, when Trump was the popular Republican choice. The media shamelessly lied consistently, whittling away its support from the American public. It would recover slightly in 2018, but around 2020 the decline began anew. Now, in 2024, trust is only at 31 percent.

Gallup notes that there is a huge partisan divide in trust. Republicans trust the media at only 12 percent and Independents are only at 27 percent. Democrats, naturally, make up the bulk of America's trust in the media at 57 percent. This is telling, as it displays that the media's bias is pleasing to leftists. Still, the fact that the number isn't higher shows that even many on the left don't trust it due to its obvious bias.

As far as age groups go, the Boomer generation and older seem to have the most trust in the media at 43 percent, while Millennials and Gen Z have the least at 26 percent. Gen X has only 33 percent trust in the media.

Gallup notes that the trust in the media is below even America's trust in the federal government:

The news media is the least trusted group among 10 U.S. civic and political institutions involved in the democratic process. The legislative branch of the federal government, consisting of the U.S. Senate and House of Representatives, is rated about as poorly as the media, with 34% trusting it.

In contrast, majorities of U.S. adults express at least a fair amount of trust in their local government to handle local problems (67%), their state government to address state problems (55%), and the American people as a whole when it comes to making judgments under our democratic system about the issues facing the country (54%).

Between 40% and 48% of Americans trust the judicial branch headed by the U.S. Supreme Court, men and women in political life, the federal government’s handling of international problems, and the executive branch led by the president. Fewer U.S. adults trust the federal government’s handling of domestic problems (37%).

This should be a wake-up call for the corporate media, but it's highly unlikely the message will sink in for some time, if ever. The media is driving itself into irrelevance by continuing to lie to the American people during an age where said lies are easily disprovable thanks to the internet.

It's also thanks to the internet that the media is becoming increasingly unnecessary as citizen journalists have become faster and more accurate. The internet allows anyone with a camera to become an eyewitness who gets the news out quickly, sometimes going live to show it happening in real time.

At this point, the media a lumbering propaganda machine with decreasing value.

Link

Almost a complete reversal since the early 1970's. Back then, about 70% of the public trusted the media. Today, 70% do NOT trust the media.....and Donald Trump didnt do it by calling them "fake news". The OP graphs show the trend of the media losing the public trust started decades before and continues to this day----Trump just gave it a catchy label. No my friends---the media did this to themselves by casually tossing aside their their professional duty to be unbiased, promoting long life narratives they knew to be fake, and by regularly omitting relevant facts that might undermine their chosen narratives. A decade ago, the media by themselves could probably still make Harris a runaway election winner. Today---the public trust in media has reached the point that---try as they might---the media is unable to sell a majority of Americans that Harris is best thing since sliced bread.

Most of the "media" is actually just the propaganda arm of the Democrat Party. They all repeat the same words and phrases.

Yep, you can watch any left wing media and hear the exact same words.

The news give people what they want. It’s the peoples fault for being fools. If they weren’t mouth gaping morons, the news would have to try harder.

(10-14-2024 03:13 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  Today, 70% do NOT trust the media.....and Donald Trump didnt do it by calling them "fake news". The OP graphs show the trend of the media losing the public trust started decades before and continues to this day----Trump just gave it a catchy label. No my friends---the media did this to themselves by casually tossing aside their their professional duty to be unbiased, promoting long life narratives they knew to be fake, and by regularly omitted relevant facts that might undermine their chosen narratives. A decade ago, the media by themselves could probably still make Harris a runaway election winner. Today---the public trust in media has reached the point that---try as they might---the media is unable to sell a majority of Americans that Harris is best thing since sliced bread.

100% fact

Trump is the manifestation of the fact people had not been trusting the media

He was their outlet.

Media members truly and honestly cannot understand why people don't trust them.

They are like the Dems making that stupid Men for Kamala add...they simply do not realize how out of touch they are

(10-14-2024 02:55 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  News people say what they're told to say for a paycheck. They don't care if it's the truth or not.

This is a good point. The talking heads just read the teleprompter. The real issue is the people behind the camera that tell the monkeys what to say.

(10-14-2024 02:55 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  News people say what they're told to say for a paycheck. They don't care if it's the truth or not.

That's why they're called "presstitutes"

(10-14-2024 04:31 PM)andybible1995 Wrote:  

(10-14-2024 02:55 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  News people say what they're told to say for a paycheck. They don't care if it's the truth or not.

That's why they're called "presstitutes"

They will read anything you put on the teleprompter...

AN-Y-THING!

To put it simply, I don't believe anything coming out of the MSM. Not sure how anyone could given the events post 2016.

(10-14-2024 01:54 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(10-14-2024 01:49 PM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  Maybe they should try... oh, I don't know... telling the truth?

They think they are telling the truth already.

That’s why the situation is almost impossible to change. People in media think they’re doing solid work, and that the problem is with the audience.

Every major Television News Service is owned by a corporation which is part of a multi-national conglomerate. End of story. It's not the morons Todor talks about. It's not the press believing they are telling the truth. The corporate owners set the agenda, the editors are corporate, and whether on the tube or in print everything is edited by a group at a central location. Our local newspaper sent its computerized plate setting to a central location many states away for final edit before it hit the presses. The editing was for anything that might harm the image of the corporation and I'm sure anything that wasn't corporate political policy.

The only way to have a free press is to make sure that they are stand-alone businesses and not corporately owned. If the entity is incorporated it should not be owned by multi-nationals and not part of a conglomerate.

The reason we are all carefully lied to, and why all the reports and verbiage sound alike is because the take on every story is controlled by just a few sources nationally. I was disappointed when Nikkei News was dropped from my provider. Between Al Jazeera, the Nikkei News, and what was reported by the European/American cabal, I could at least hear different sides of the story whether I agreed with their spin or not. I found Nikkei to be the best because they presented the story from the different perspectives involved and didn't tell you what to think.

Once again, the computer is our enemy. Search engines are few and easily controlled.

They are no longer news, they have evolved into Story Tellers. That is on all sides not just the big 3.

I have no problem with a celebrity or influencer or rich person throwing their weight behind a candidate and for whatever reason they want. I hate that they have the levels of influence that they have, but that is personal choice.

I do have a problem with Media pushing a direction; however, that is not their job; they should be neutral and factual - period. I don't have a problem with the Media Fact checking either as long as they do it both ways, and IMO they do not. I do not have trust in any of them including Fox - sure they (Fox) entertain me and tell me what I like to hear, but I base 0.00% of my opinion solely on what they spew. Key word there is Entertained.

What Muir and the other moderator did on the ABC Debate was completely biased. In the name of fairness from another debate they had nothing to do with, they undermined (again) their own credibility, not that they had much to begin with.


Our resident know it all (non esquire) does this too with the economic update threads. Instead of just presenting the story he usually quotes, he adds [subliminal] bold and/or underlining to words and phrases to attract you to the positives even though he claims he is just providing the report from whatever source. That is our current media in a nutshell.

(10-15-2024 10:31 AM)Eldonabe Wrote:  They are no longer news, they have evolved into Story Tellers. That is on all sides not just the big 3.

I have no problem with a celebrity or influencer or rich person throwing their weight behind a candidate and for whatever reason they want. I hate that they have the levels of influence that they have, but that is personal choice.

I do have a problem with Media pushing a direction; however, that is not their job; they should be neutral and factual - period. I don't have a problem with the Media Fact checking either as long as they do it both ways, and IMO they do not. I do not have trust in any of them including Fox - sure they (Fox) entertain me and tell me what I like to hear, but I base 0.00% of my opinion solely on what they spew. Key word there is Entertained.

What Muir and the other moderator did on the ABC Debate was completely biased. In the name of fairness from another debate they had nothing to do with, they undermined (again) their own credibility, not that they had much to begin with.


Our resident know it all (non esquire) does this too with the economic update threads. Instead of just presenting the story he usually quotes, he adds [subliminal] bold and/or underlining to words and phrases to attract you to the positives even though he claims he is just providing the report from whatever source. That is our current media in a nutshell.

Thats the best description. The narrative is determined by the media and then only data that supports that narrative is reported. The media rarely flat out lies---they typically deceive by omitting important portions of the story that would undermine their narrative. The other tactic they use is to provide the "balancing counterpoint" to any argument undermining their chosen narrative while accepting as gospel "fact" anything that supports their narrative. When those two methods fail to work---which up to a few years ago was rare---straight up censorship of opposing views was the last line of defense.

As if the public needed another reason to distrust the legacy media and CBS in particular:

It looks like my post above has it's own thread now, but here is perhaps the most egregious clip example from the Johnson interview (it's not just pro-Dems, it's anti-American people who are suffering)

(10-14-2024 03:13 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(10-14-2024 01:19 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

Quote:It would appear that the media has made itself irrelevant to the American people by a large degree.

According to a new Gallup poll, a strikingly small number of the American public actually have any faith at all in the media, almost in line with the amount of trust people have in the Federal government:

Americans continue to register record-low trust in the mass media, with 31% expressing a “great deal” or “fair amount” of confidence in the media to report the news “fully, accurately and fairly,” similar to last year’s 32%. Americans’ trust in the media -- such as newspapers, television and radio -- first fell to 32% in 2016 and did so again last year.

For the third consecutive year, more U.S. adults have no trust at all in the media (36%) than trust it a great deal or fair amount. Another 33% of Americans express “not very much” confidence.

It's been a striking, multi-decade decline, as Gallup notes. It originally asked back in 1972. Back then, trust was in the 70s, even peaking at 72 percent in 1976, but as you can see from the graph above, a steep decline began that had it down to 53 percent by 1997.

Trust in the media took its largest dip in 2016, when Trump was the popular Republican choice. The media shamelessly lied consistently, whittling away its support from the American public. It would recover slightly in 2018, but around 2020 the decline began anew. Now, in 2024, trust is only at 31 percent.

Gallup notes that there is a huge partisan divide in trust. Republicans trust the media at only 12 percent and Independents are only at 27 percent. Democrats, naturally, make up the bulk of America's trust in the media at 57 percent. This is telling, as it displays that the media's bias is pleasing to leftists. Still, the fact that the number isn't higher shows that even many on the left don't trust it due to its obvious bias.

As far as age groups go, the Boomer generation and older seem to have the most trust in the media at 43 percent, while Millennials and Gen Z have the least at 26 percent. Gen X has only 33 percent trust in the media.

Gallup notes that the trust in the media is below even America's trust in the federal government:

The news media is the least trusted group among 10 U.S. civic and political institutions involved in the democratic process. The legislative branch of the federal government, consisting of the U.S. Senate and House of Representatives, is rated about as poorly as the media, with 34% trusting it.

In contrast, majorities of U.S. adults express at least a fair amount of trust in their local government to handle local problems (67%), their state government to address state problems (55%), and the American people as a whole when it comes to making judgments under our democratic system about the issues facing the country (54%).

Between 40% and 48% of Americans trust the judicial branch headed by the U.S. Supreme Court, men and women in political life, the federal government’s handling of international problems, and the executive branch led by the president. Fewer U.S. adults trust the federal government’s handling of domestic problems (37%).

This should be a wake-up call for the corporate media, but it's highly unlikely the message will sink in for some time, if ever. The media is driving itself into irrelevance by continuing to lie to the American people during an age where said lies are easily disprovable thanks to the internet.

It's also thanks to the internet that the media is becoming increasingly unnecessary as citizen journalists have become faster and more accurate. The internet allows anyone with a camera to become an eyewitness who gets the news out quickly, sometimes going live to show it happening in real time.

At this point, the media a lumbering propaganda machine with decreasing value.

Link

Almost a complete reversal since the early 1970's. Back then, about 70% of the public trusted the media. Today, 70% do NOT trust the media.....and Donald Trump didnt do it by calling them "fake news". The OP graphs show the trend of the media losing the public trust started decades before and continues to this day----Trump just gave it a catchy label. No my friends---the media did this to themselves by casually tossing aside their their professional duty to be unbiased, promoting long life narratives they knew to be fake, and by regularly omitting relevant facts that might undermine their chosen narratives. A decade ago, the media by themselves could probably still make Harris a runaway election winner. Today---the public trust in media has reached the point that---try as they might---the media is unable to sell a majority of Americans that Harris is best thing since sliced bread.

The chart shows me something else and it has to do with the internet. The big change started mid 1990 and the more we started being all connected and everything basically instance...

the less people trust the media

My guess a large part of that 31% that still trust the media are old people that get most of their news from the Big 3 and young people that pay no attention to current events.

Just a guess but while we are more connected than any point in history. There's still 20 to 25 % that basically live their life outside of the internet. Those are the people that are going to say they trust the media.