(09-21-2024 08:00 PM)450bench Wrote:  

(09-21-2024 07:22 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  You have to play chicken with bullies. She knows this from her experience as DA.

She has nothing to gain from another debate except another opportunity to burst Trump's image.

You must be tim walz speechwriter.

You should go buy some oceanfront property up in Kansas. Helluva investment.

I'd gladly buy oceanfront property in Kansas. Great state, beaches would be a great addition in the next 20 years under a Trump administration.

How's your DJT stock doing?

(09-21-2024 08:20 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(09-21-2024 08:00 PM)450bench Wrote:  

(09-21-2024 07:22 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  You have to play chicken with bullies. She knows this from her experience as DA.

She has nothing to gain from another debate except another opportunity to burst Trump's image.

You must be tim walz speechwriter.

You should go buy some oceanfront property up in Kansas. Helluva investment.

I'd gladly buy oceanfront property in Kansas. Great state, beaches would be a great addition in the next 20 years under a Trump administration.

How's your DJT stock doing?

I just bought some more Trump stock. Thanks for asking. Great time to buy.

Good luck with the oceanfront purchase in Kansas. You should do well with it.
I understand the views there are fantastic.

They think Republicans are awful enough, they should sweep all 50 states, even one Republican state is too much, doesn't mean they think she's behind

Trump s/ just say no. Debates are useless. They made more sense back when they were real debates & meant to communicate information, but in this day and age when they're just meant to be entertainment, they don't make much sense.

(09-21-2024 07:22 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  You have to play chicken with bullies. She knows this from her experience as DA.

She has nothing to gain from another debate except another opportunity to burst Trump's image.

Obviously you’re being duplicitous in your response. Basic observation demonstrates that her whole campaign has been cautious from tightly scripted events and speeches to limited interviews. If she is in the lead going into the homestretch and then the is no need to pursue another debate.

(09-21-2024 12:17 PM)bobdizole Wrote:  Link

Same format as the first debate. While I think the moderators in the first debate were very fair to Trump, I still think he should say no. When your opponent is on the ropes, don't throw them a lifeline.

Trumps answer should be to accept a debate invite from FOX. Harris already had her home game.

I’d also alter the current debate format. The network of record would only supply a single moderator. The moderator would only be in charge of time and would serve as host. The respective campaigns would each select a single news commentator to ask questions to their opponent. The Harris campaign would select a news commentator to ask questions of Trump and the Trump campaign would select a commentator to question Harris. All other rules would remain unchanged. The host would make it clear both questioners are partisans—but would explain that this format guarantees both candidates will get tough probing questions exploring issues each party believes the public needs to hear explored prior to the election.

(09-21-2024 06:51 PM)Redbanksdog Wrote:  

(09-21-2024 06:29 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  So are the ‘public polls’ real or not that say she’s in the lead in most swing states that matter? So why would she risk another debate, where anything can happen, if she won the last debate and leading in the polls? What am I missing here?

I believe the numbers for harris in the polls are bogus. No one liked her before but all of a sudden everyone loves her. It's also like the phrase you heard in 2020 " I'm voting for biden because he's not Trump. Wash and repeat for the same thing in 2024. It's all a lie and some people fall for it.

ask yourself ...
if media/academic polls ring true ...
why are they trying to assassinate trump ...
notice timing ...
an attempt right before the rnc ...
an attempt right after the debate ...
at their wits end ...

NOBODY KICKS A DEAD DOG

Why on earth would Trump agree to a debate now? Honestly, I don't even trust Fox - didn't Megyn Kelly try to nail Trump in the 2016 Fox debate?

As I stated the next day I did not watch the debate live, but after all the comments on how one sided it was, I did force myself to watch it after. That was clearly a 3 on 1. Did Trump lie/embellish etc... he sure did and I am glad they called him on it, but Harris did as well (I cannot say if it was more, less, the same, but that does not matter because she definitely did). and it was crickets.

Just keep pounding on the border and the economy... over and over and over. She has no answers.

If I was Trump, I wouldn't agree with doing another debate. It's already been shown it will be biased in favor of his opposition. Why go through that yet again? The opposition will use just say he's "afraid" of doing another debate because they know their constituents are ignorant enough to believe the accusation.

Edit. Didn't take long to see that in action!

"Too late" lol, from the big chicken who did October debates in both of his prior White House runs. Someone is terrified of getting his ass handed to him by Madame Vice President again.

(09-23-2024 09:48 AM)Gamenole Wrote:  "Too late" lol, from the big chicken who did October debates in both of his prior White House runs. Someone is terrified of getting his ass handed to him by Madame Vice President again.

She needs the debate - he doesn't.

(09-23-2024 09:48 AM)Gamenole Wrote:  "Too late" lol, from the big chicken who did October debates in both of his prior White House runs. Someone is terrified of getting his ass handed to him by Madame Vice President again.

If madame Vice President is winning, ahead in the polls, ahead in betting markets, won the last debate and on pace to cruise to victory then why would she bother with another debate? That’s a reasonable question to ask

If he accepted there’s no guarantee that she might have a off day or flub it for whatever 1000 reasons humans have and thus risk exposing her momentum and we do know that her handlers are very cautious about events

(09-23-2024 10:32 AM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  

(09-23-2024 09:48 AM)Gamenole Wrote:  "Too late" lol, from the big chicken who did October debates in both of his prior White House runs. Someone is terrified of getting his ass handed to him by Madame Vice President again.

If madame Vice President is winning, ahead in the polls, ahead in betting markets, won the last debate and on pace to cruise to victory then why would she bother with another debate? That’s a reasonable question to ask

If he accepted there’s no guarantee that she might have a off day or flub it for whatever 1000 reasons humans have and thus risk exposing her momentum and we do know that her handlers are very cautious about events

It is probably safe to assume neither side wants a rematch. For the reasons you mention but also because Trump does not want to get his peach handed to him again. This also heads off any complaints she was not willing to do a rematch. Harris has the upper hand here.

Only one more debate needed and it must be on FOX. Dems had two on their home field time for GOP to have a home game.

(09-23-2024 10:42 AM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote:  

(09-23-2024 10:32 AM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  

(09-23-2024 09:48 AM)Gamenole Wrote:  "Too late" lol, from the big chicken who did October debates in both of his prior White House runs. Someone is terrified of getting his ass handed to him by Madame Vice President again.

If madame Vice President is winning, ahead in the polls, ahead in betting markets, won the last debate and on pace to cruise to victory then why would she bother with another debate? That’s a reasonable question to ask

If he accepted there’s no guarantee that she might have a off day or flub it for whatever 1000 reasons humans have and thus risk exposing her momentum and we do know that her handlers are very cautious about events

It is probably safe to assume neither side wants a rematch. For the reasons you mention but also because Trump does not want to get his peach handed to him again. This also heads off any complaints she was not willing to do a rematch. Harris has the upper hand here.

So, does Kamala refusing to do a Fox News debate make her "chicken"? Trump has already done a CNN debate.

(09-23-2024 10:44 AM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  

(09-23-2024 10:42 AM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote:  

(09-23-2024 10:32 AM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  

(09-23-2024 09:48 AM)Gamenole Wrote:  "Too late" lol, from the big chicken who did October debates in both of his prior White House runs. Someone is terrified of getting his ass handed to him by Madame Vice President again.

If madame Vice President is winning, ahead in the polls, ahead in betting markets, won the last debate and on pace to cruise to victory then why would she bother with another debate? That’s a reasonable question to ask

If he accepted there’s no guarantee that she might have a off day or flub it for whatever 1000 reasons humans have and thus risk exposing her momentum and we do know that her handlers are very cautious about events

It is probably safe to assume neither side wants a rematch. For the reasons you mention but also because Trump does not want to get his peach handed to him again. This also heads off any complaints she was not willing to do a rematch. Harris has the upper hand here.

So, does Kamala refusing to do a Fox News debate make her "chicken"? Trump has already done a CNN debate.

Would depend on the rules Fox wants to use.

(09-23-2024 10:42 AM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote:  

(09-23-2024 10:32 AM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  

(09-23-2024 09:48 AM)Gamenole Wrote:  "Too late" lol, from the big chicken who did October debates in both of his prior White House runs. Someone is terrified of getting his ass handed to him by Madame Vice President again.

If madame Vice President is winning, ahead in the polls, ahead in betting markets, won the last debate and on pace to cruise to victory then why would she bother with another debate? That’s a reasonable question to ask

If he accepted there’s no guarantee that she might have a off day or flub it for whatever 1000 reasons humans have and thus risk exposing her momentum and we do know that her handlers are very cautious about events

It is probably safe to assume neither side wants a rematch. For the reasons you mention but also because Trump does not want to get his peach handed to him again. This also heads off any complaints she was not willing to do a rematch. Harris has the upper hand here.

It’s her campaign asking for another debate not him and if he did accepted the hot would be a foolish thing to demand….unless things are not what they appear to be

(09-23-2024 10:46 AM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote:  

(09-23-2024 10:44 AM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  

(09-23-2024 10:42 AM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote:  

(09-23-2024 10:32 AM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  

(09-23-2024 09:48 AM)Gamenole Wrote:  "Too late" lol, from the big chicken who did October debates in both of his prior White House runs. Someone is terrified of getting his ass handed to him by Madame Vice President again.

If madame Vice President is winning, ahead in the polls, ahead in betting markets, won the last debate and on pace to cruise to victory then why would she bother with another debate? That’s a reasonable question to ask

If he accepted there’s no guarantee that she might have a off day or flub it for whatever 1000 reasons humans have and thus risk exposing her momentum and we do know that her handlers are very cautious about events

It is probably safe to assume neither side wants a rematch. For the reasons you mention but also because Trump does not want to get his peach handed to him again. This also heads off any complaints she was not willing to do a rematch. Harris has the upper hand here.

So, does Kamala refusing to do a Fox News debate make her "chicken"? Trump has already done a CNN debate.

Would depend on the rules Fox wants to use.

No it doesn't.

(09-23-2024 10:48 AM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  

(09-23-2024 10:42 AM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote:  

(09-23-2024 10:32 AM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  

(09-23-2024 09:48 AM)Gamenole Wrote:  "Too late" lol, from the big chicken who did October debates in both of his prior White House runs. Someone is terrified of getting his ass handed to him by Madame Vice President again.

If madame Vice President is winning, ahead in the polls, ahead in betting markets, won the last debate and on pace to cruise to victory then why would she bother with another debate? That’s a reasonable question to ask

If he accepted there’s no guarantee that she might have a off day or flub it for whatever 1000 reasons humans have and thus risk exposing her momentum and we do know that her handlers are very cautious about events

It is probably safe to assume neither side wants a rematch. For the reasons you mention but also because Trump does not want to get his peach handed to him again. This also heads off any complaints she was not willing to do a rematch. Harris has the upper hand here.

It’s her campaign asking for another debate not him and if he did accepted the hot would be a foolish thing to demand….unless things are not what they appear to be

CNN is asking. And the hot mics being off is a benefit to Trump not Harris.

Quote:Vice President Kamala Harris on Saturday accepted an invitation from CNN to debate former President Donald Trump on October 23, challenging her rival to another engagement on a public stage in the final weeks of the campaign

Asking for another debate is just a tactic to move attention away from the cheating on the last one.

(09-23-2024 10:55 AM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  

(09-23-2024 10:46 AM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote:  

(09-23-2024 10:44 AM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  

(09-23-2024 10:42 AM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote:  

(09-23-2024 10:32 AM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  If madame Vice President is winning, ahead in the polls, ahead in betting markets, won the last debate and on pace to cruise to victory then why would she bother with another debate? That’s a reasonable question to ask

If he accepted there’s no guarantee that she might have a off day or flub it for whatever 1000 reasons humans have and thus risk exposing her momentum and we do know that her handlers are very cautious about events

It is probably safe to assume neither side wants a rematch. For the reasons you mention but also because Trump does not want to get his peach handed to him again. This also heads off any complaints she was not willing to do a rematch. Harris has the upper hand here.

So, does Kamala refusing to do a Fox News debate make her "chicken"? Trump has already done a CNN debate.

Would depend on the rules Fox wants to use.

No it doesn't.

Really? Then why did the previous debates have rules? Why was Harris not allowed to change rules set by Trump and Biden?