(08-30-2024 01:00 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  

(08-30-2024 12:40 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Add Kevin Carroll to that list. He served as a senior counselor to US secretary of homeland security John Kelly, and as a CIA and US army officer.

Here's a snippet of his opinion. But what does he know. He probably doesn't get it, after all what was in it for him?

Quote:trump sees the armed services as yet another entity to be misused for his personal benefit, damaged and then discarded just as he has with his bankrupt businesses, the evangelical Christian churches and the Republican party. Beyond that, his boorish statements and bad behavior regarding the military almost certainly come from a place of self-loathing. trump dodged the Vietnam war draft by claiming – probably falsely – to suffer from bone spurs. A gnawingly insecure man, trump is self-conscious of his lack of the virtues towards which the military strives: as the US army puts it, loyalty to the constitution, dutiful fulfillment of responsibilities, respect for others, selfless service to both the country and subordinates, honor, integrity and personal courage.

His poor form at Arlington this week therefore shocks but does not surprise, as the idea of serving others, much less giving one’s life for others, is anathema to trump. This attitude would be a sad commentary about any man, but ought to disqualify someone seeking to serve as commander-in-chief.

The trump campaign’s conduct at Arlington is shocking but not surprising

Well, if a deep state guy wrote an opinion piece for The Guardian, then who am I to argue. I mean, he must (like you and Tanq) have all of the information and is just stating facts.

Yes, how terrible it is that the people around Trump give their opinions.

One versed in the school of logic might have an inkling that those around a person just might have an insight into that person.

There is a veritable fountain of those types of insights. Opinions of people formed by first hand interaction, mind you. I would suggest that those people do have much better insights than Tom, myself, or you.

But some seemingly subscribe to that interesting (to say the least) 'if anything cuts against my lord and savior Donnie, must bleep it out of my sight and smite that heresy out of existence.' Sounds fun.

(08-30-2024 01:00 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  

(08-30-2024 12:40 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Add Kevin Carroll to that list. He served as a senior counselor to US secretary of homeland security John Kelly, and as a CIA and US army officer.

Here's a snippet of his opinion. But what does he know. He probably doesn't get it, after all what was in it for him?

Quote:trump sees the armed services as yet another entity to be misused for his personal benefit, damaged and then discarded just as he has with his bankrupt businesses, the evangelical Christian churches and the Republican party. Beyond that, his boorish statements and bad behavior regarding the military almost certainly come from a place of self-loathing. trump dodged the Vietnam war draft by claiming – probably falsely – to suffer from bone spurs. A gnawingly insecure man, trump is self-conscious of his lack of the virtues towards which the military strives: as the US army puts it, loyalty to the constitution, dutiful fulfillment of responsibilities, respect for others, selfless service to both the country and subordinates, honor, integrity and personal courage.

His poor form at Arlington this week therefore shocks but does not surprise, as the idea of serving others, much less giving one’s life for others, is anathema to trump. This attitude would be a sad commentary about any man, but ought to disqualify someone seeking to serve as commander-in-chief.

The trump campaign’s conduct at Arlington is shocking but not surprising

Well, if a deep state guy wrote an opinion piece for The Guardian, then who am I to argue. I mean, he must (like you and Tanq) have all of the information and is just stating facts.

How much more insight does one need, much less a former Army officer, than a picture of a POS smiling with a thumb up in the air at the grave of a hero in one of the most revered places in our country, Section 60 of Arlington?

Gold star families are doing interviews today.

Can someone check on the arlington cumquat to ensure he is ok after the army shut him down?

(08-30-2024 01:11 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  Gold star families are doing interviews today.

Can someone check on the arlington cumquat to ensure he is ok after the army shut him down?

All of them, or just the 5 people from 2 families of them who invited trump to Arlington?

How about the family of Master Sgt. Andrew Marckesano...are they doing an interview? Or do you just not give a **** about them like your Dear Cult Leader?

MAGA are scum.

(08-30-2024 01:08 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(08-30-2024 01:00 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  

(08-30-2024 12:40 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Add Kevin Carroll to that list. He served as a senior counselor to US secretary of homeland security John Kelly, and as a CIA and US army officer.

Here's a snippet of his opinion. But what does he know. He probably doesn't get it, after all what was in it for him?

Quote:trump sees the armed services as yet another entity to be misused for his personal benefit, damaged and then discarded just as he has with his bankrupt businesses, the evangelical Christian churches and the Republican party. Beyond that, his boorish statements and bad behavior regarding the military almost certainly come from a place of self-loathing. trump dodged the Vietnam war draft by claiming – probably falsely – to suffer from bone spurs. A gnawingly insecure man, trump is self-conscious of his lack of the virtues towards which the military strives: as the US army puts it, loyalty to the constitution, dutiful fulfillment of responsibilities, respect for others, selfless service to both the country and subordinates, honor, integrity and personal courage.

His poor form at Arlington this week therefore shocks but does not surprise, as the idea of serving others, much less giving one’s life for others, is anathema to trump. This attitude would be a sad commentary about any man, but ought to disqualify someone seeking to serve as commander-in-chief.

The trump campaign’s conduct at Arlington is shocking but not surprising

Well, if a deep state guy wrote an opinion piece for The Guardian, then who am I to argue. I mean, he must (like you and Tanq) have all of the information and is just stating facts.

Yes, how terrible it is that the people around Trump give their opinions.

One versed in the school of logic might have an inkling that those around a person just might have an insight into that person.

There is a veritable fountain of those types of insights. Opinions of people formed by first hand interaction, mind you. I would suggest that those people do have much better insights than Tom, myself, or you.

But some seemingly subscribe to that interesting (to say the least) 'if anything cuts against my lord and savior Donnie, must bleep it out of my sight and smite that heresy out of existence.' Sounds fun.

Get back to us when you have some...um...facts.

You posting third hand heresay shows nothing except your desperation.

(08-30-2024 01:16 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-30-2024 01:11 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  Gold star families are doing interviews today.

Can someone check on the arlington cumquat to ensure he is ok after the army shut him down?

All of them, or just the 5 people from 2 families of them who invited trump to Arlington?

How about the family of Master Sgt. Andrew Marckesano...are they doing an interview? Or do you just not give a **** about them like your Dear Cult Leader?

MAGA are scum.

It’s hilarious how triggered you are. Maybe your demigods should have shown up to pay their respects. Would have saved you and the rest of the scum a lot of beetching and moaning.

(08-30-2024 01:11 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  Gold star families are doing interviews today.

Can someone check on the arlington cumquat to ensure he is ok after the army shut him down?

Precisely. If Trump or his team did something really awful, they'd be interviewing this dude non-stop on CNN & MSNBC and he'd already have filed a lawsuit for $10 million.

One would think after all of the fake stories the media has done on Turmp since 2015, that these guys would keep their powder dry for a couple of days. But alas, no.

The level of ignorance to believe that the Army and ANC would comment AT ALL on something you claim didn't happen...with ZERO facts to the contrary...is mind boggling. And really ignorant.

And yeah, the employee is probably afraid of the MAGAt scum, as they should be.

(08-29-2024 11:02 AM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote:  

(08-29-2024 10:55 AM)shere khan Wrote:  

(08-29-2024 10:51 AM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote:  

(08-29-2024 10:39 AM)No Bull Wrote:  

(08-29-2024 10:32 AM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote:  Pathetic. You guys will explain away anything he does.

The Afghan pull out was pathetic. Biden-Harris not attending the ceremony is pathetic. An ex soldier defending Biden-Harris for above is beyond pathetic.

Based on Trump’s Art of the Deal negotiating tactics. It is because I am a vet I will vote blue this election. I am not down for the bee hive mentality of the MAGAt train. This whole thing was a cheap ploy to try and make up for the Medal of Freedom screwup. He could have just said sorry. Mea culpa. But he and you buffoons can’t even do that.

I also find in disrespectful on a personal level because my maternal grandparents are buried at ANC.

Sure you do. Its personal.

You just hate Trump so bad you drag your dead grandparents into it. Frick off with that shite.

My dead ancestors at arlington are cool with it.

Frick right on off you disengenious moron.

Youre not only stupid you are emotionally damaged.

I have been honest. I have never liked Trump. I knew he was a piece of when I saw him on Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous with Robin Leach. And ever since his behavior keeps confirming my original thoughts.

Hate to break it to you puddin’. But lashing out like a lunatic speaks to your repressed trauma, not mine. Have a day!

*Watches Lifestyles of the rich and famous...

O

EM

GEE

(08-30-2024 01:40 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  The level of ignorance to believe that the Army and ANC would comment AT ALL on something you claim didn't happen...with ZERO facts to the contrary...is mind boggling. And really ignorant.

And yeah, the employee is probably afraid of the MAGAt scum, as they should be.

Yeah. He's likely fearful for his life. I mean, you can't turn on the news without seeing another story about Trumpsters hunting down and terrorizing their opponents. It happens too many times to count, daily.

(08-29-2024 11:37 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

Of course he did, and No One cried for 3 days over it.

More made up fake RRRAAAAAAAGGGGGEEEEE!!!! Over nothing.

This entire coup campaign is fake, even the fake outrage.

(08-29-2024 08:00 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Hey Tanq, I'm not quoting all that word salad from Post #253 above.

1. You are malevolently disingenuous, Counselor. If they weren't trying to influence people to believe that the laptop could be bogus, then why the hell did they say anything at all?

They sure as hell weren't trying to convince anybody that the laptop was real.

From the House Judiciary Committee:

https://judiciary.house.gov/media/in-the...med-hunter

2. The FBI knew the laptop was genuine BEFORE the letter went out on October 19, 2020.

From the same Committee:

https://judiciary.house.gov/media/press-...about-hack

Sloe* himself made the claim that the laptop was assessed as "Russian Disinformation" by 51 current and former blah, blahs in a live debate in front of 10's of millions potential voters.

He lied, the 51 lied, the only one who didn't totally lie about the laptop and was it "real"?

Yea, crackhead Bob. Hunter. Nice company to keep.

(08-30-2024 12:04 PM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote:  

(08-30-2024 10:40 AM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(08-30-2024 10:37 AM)oruvoice Wrote:  

(08-29-2024 11:02 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  What a fing creep.

Trump quote, on the Arlington National Cemetery Staff:

Quote:'These are bad people we're dealing with,' he said of the Arlington National Cemetery staff.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article...etery.html

Maybe they are bad people. I mean, we've got bad people in congress, the supreme court, the WH, FBI, DOJ, the media, & this message board. Maybe there are bad people at ANC.

According to these dufasses if they hate Trump to the point of psychosis they can’t be bad people.

And if everyone else is the “bad” person then most likely they are not the problem.

What's the problem?

(08-30-2024 01:43 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(08-29-2024 11:02 AM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote:  

(08-29-2024 10:55 AM)shere khan Wrote:  

(08-29-2024 10:51 AM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote:  

(08-29-2024 10:39 AM)No Bull Wrote:  The Afghan pull out was pathetic. Biden-Harris not attending the ceremony is pathetic. An ex soldier defending Biden-Harris for above is beyond pathetic.

Based on Trump’s Art of the Deal negotiating tactics. It is because I am a vet I will vote blue this election. I am not down for the bee hive mentality of the MAGAt train. This whole thing was a cheap ploy to try and make up for the Medal of Freedom screwup. He could have just said sorry. Mea culpa. But he and you buffoons can’t even do that.

I also find in disrespectful on a personal level because my maternal grandparents are buried at ANC.

Sure you do. Its personal.

You just hate Trump so bad you drag your dead grandparents into it. Frick off with that shite.

My dead ancestors at arlington are cool with it.

Frick right on off you disengenious moron.

Youre not only stupid you are emotionally damaged.

I have been honest. I have never liked Trump. I knew he was a piece of when I saw him on Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous with Robin Leach. And ever since his behavior keeps confirming my original thoughts.

Hate to break it to you puddin’. But lashing out like a lunatic speaks to your repressed trauma, not mine. Have a day!

*Watches Lifestyles of the rich and famous...

O

EM

GEE

Emotionally damaged.

The Biden administration loves our troops and especially our fallen troops so much that they give the Taliban $8.7 million a week. Who knows when that $8million a week will kill another few thousand Americans. There is no arguing the liberal progressives are the scum of the earth.

Trump tried to blame the families for his campaign releasing a tik tok commercial from their kids funeral? What a piece of shite.

“When asked by Burns if his campaign should have released the photos and videos taken at Section 60 of the cemetery, Trump responded, “Well, we have a lot of people, you know, we have people, TikTok people, you know, we’re leading the internet. That was the other thing. We’re so far above her on the internet.”

When pressed on whether it was appropriate to share such images from a solemn location, Trump deflected, suggesting that the responsibility might lie with the Gold Star parents who had invited him, rather than his campaign.

“I don’t know what the rules and regulations are. I don’t know who did it. And it could have been them. It could have been the parents,” Trump said. “It could have been somebody else.”


https://www.nbcnews.com/nightly-news/vid...8274885907

Y’all still arguing about the Arlington cemetery bit? This is all smoke and mirrors you know. There weren’t any soldiers who died under Biden’s watch. I know I heard him say so myself.

So much respect.

Almost 300 posts and counting.

(08-30-2024 02:55 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Almost 300 posts and counting.

Politics. Of. Personal. Destruction. It’s. All. They. Have.

(08-30-2024 02:50 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  Trump tried to blame the families for his campaign releasing a tik tok commercial from their kids funeral? What a piece of shite.

“When asked by Burns if his campaign should have released the photos and videos taken at Section 60 of the cemetery, Trump responded, “Well, we have a lot of people, you know, we have people, TikTok people, you know, we’re leading the internet. That was the other thing. We’re so far above her on the internet.”

When pressed on whether it was appropriate to share such images from a solemn location, Trump deflected, suggesting that the responsibility might lie with the Gold Star parents who had invited him, rather than his campaign.

“I don’t know what the rules and regulations are. I don’t know who did it. And it could have been them. It could have been the parents,” Trump said. “It could have been somebody else.”


https://www.nbcnews.com/nightly-news/vid...8274885907

Yeag, "It could have been the parents". When the poster was the account of Donald Trump, and another posting account was the campaign.

But.... "It could have been the parents".

There is no culpability with the parents -- they had every right to invite him.
Trump had every right to go and to participate.

He had *no* fing right to make a campaign video out of the event outside the area of the Unknown Soldier ceremony. None. Zeero. Zilch.

Shitbird tries to blame the parents -- the lengths the guy goes to to avoid any responsibility whatsoever s just staggering.