(08-28-2024 09:39 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  well, I warned Tom not to double down on stupid.

So, it sounds like the Arlington cumquat Karen decided to try to interrupt a very solemn gold star families' ceremony. Well done, libturds. Well done.

“There was no physical altercation as described and we are prepared to release footage if such defamatory claims are made,” he said in the statement.

“The fact is that a private photographer was permitted on the premises and for whatever reason an unnamed individual, clearly suffering from a mental health episode, decided to physically block members of President Trump’s team during a very solemn ceremony.”

Cheung also directed The Independent to a post on X, where he had refuted the claim the Trump campaign had been told they were not be permitted to film or take photos in the area.

Responding to a post from NPR correspondent David Folkenflik, in which he appeared to share screenshots of an email reporting the alleged incident, Cheung insisted “we were granted access to have a photographer there” and shared his own screenshot which read: “Only former president Trump may have an official photographer and/or videographer outside of the main media pool.”

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world...02931.html

But...but...ORANGE MAN BAD! REEEEEEEEEEEE!

Take the nutkick, leftists.

(08-28-2024 08:19 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  I'm gonna wait for a full report, but this is not sitting well with many veterans.

Quote:Two members of donald trump's campaign staff had a verbal and physical altercation Monday with an official at Arlington National Cemetery, where the former president participated in a wreath-laying ceremony, NPR has learned.

A source with knowledge of the incident said the cemetery official tried to prevent trump staffers from filming and photographing in a section where recent U.S. casualties are buried. The source said Arlington officials had made clear that only cemetery staff members would be authorized to take photographs or film in the area, known as Section 60.

When the cemetery official tried to prevent trump campaign staff from entering Section 60, campaign staff verbally abused and pushed the official aside, according to the source.

Quote:In a statement to NPR, Steven Cheung, the Trump campaign's spokesman, strongly rejected the notion of a physical altercation, adding: "We are prepared to release footage if such defamatory claims are made.

"The fact is that a private photographer was permitted on the premises and for whatever reason an unnamed individual, clearly suffering from a mental health episode, decided to physically block members of President Trump's team during a very solemn ceremony," Cheung said in the statement.

trump campaign staff had altercation with official at Arlington National Cemetery

It's likely that "individual suffering from a mental health episode" was a civilian employee of the Army who runs Arlington...and probably a veteran.

Section 60 is a special place in Arlington. Especially for recent veterans.

Quote:It's a tiny piece in a much larger jigsaw puzzle. No famous poets or presidents are buried there. No admirals or generals. Instead Section 60 in Arlington National Cemetery, just across the Potomac River from Washington, D.C., is the final resting place of the men and women who made the ultimate sacrifice in America's most recent wars, especially Iraq and Afghanistan. The emotions it inspires, intensified every November 11 on Veterans Day, are raw. Its stories, heartbreaking.

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/adven...ngbooktalk

Fake news disseminated by the Ministry of Propaganda and Public Enlightenment.

(08-28-2024 09:07 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(08-28-2024 08:51 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-28-2024 08:40 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(08-28-2024 08:22 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  And the final disgrace in this cheap photo-op. Smiling with a thumb up at the graves of heroes, one having nothing to do with the Afghanistan departure he's using. But yeah, Biden glanced at his watch a couple times, so we're "even."

Wasn't he invited there by the families? Glancing at his watch, trying to make it more about him and Beau, etc.... You really ought to read the comments from the parents on Bidens actions during the time they brought those service members back.

While president, trump went to ONE dignified transfer service. A Gold Star Family member was upset with him after the loss of his son and publicly called him out. trump then ceded that responsibility to Pence and didn't attend another transfer for quite some time.

And again, there were 13 lost that day, so their extended families probably approaches several dozen. So I'm sure many of them were upset at their loss and a few of them had no issue inviting trump and posing for his disgraceful photo-op.

Perhaps you should confer with the family of the other hero who didn't die at the Abbey Gate and ask how they feel about people standing on his grave for a cheap photo-op?

But as I said, I am waiting for the whole story. If indeed someone at Arlington approved a trump photo and video guy, was that approval just for the wreath ceremony? Or was it for Section 60? Section 60 is a special place and Arlington controls photos there with even tighter security. And if trump was somehow allowed to have his photo and video guy there, did his staff still shove a worker out of the way? Again, that worker was likely a veteran. But of course Scout above knows that guy was a "butthurt liberal" because he has no respect for anyone while he protects his Dear Cult Leader.

I haven't heard them complain like I have the parents of the 13 have you? Didn't think so. You have a bad habit of coming up with what if's to defend the actions of democrats while attacking Trump. Fact is several parents of the 13 were offended by Biden. Fact is they invited Trump which would indicate they are not offended by him.

Yeah, so? Didn't dispute any of that. Other than the fact that you have no idea, nor do I, how EVERY family member of the 13 feel. So we should not assume that we do.

Quote:we are prepared to release footage

Why not just release it and put it to bed now?

Or is this the "I am going to have a live statement on the issue in the near future" schtick.

Maybe just release the video at the present if it exists.

As for the angst over the "thumbs up", the photo of the group shows 5 other people, ostensibly family, doing the same thumbs up. Kind of hard to tag Trump in view of the 5 doing that with him --

Its sad that these family members lost their loved one due to Kamala's incompetence. (Someone remind Joe they died on his watch.)

Its even sadder that gold star families cant have a solemn ceremony for the fallen family members, in which Biden*, Harris, and stolen valor Tim "scout" Walz refused to attend, without some menstruating tds suffering karen throwing a hissy fit about stuff they no nothing about.

(08-28-2024 09:09 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(08-28-2024 09:02 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-28-2024 08:53 AM)TripleA Wrote:  General Kellogg just said in a live interview that he was there, that the families invited Trump and his group there, and that none of them saw anything.

Womp womp.

Have you ever been to Arlington? Do you not understand that one individual can't see everything that takes place in the entirety of the cemetery?

And yes, some of the family members invited him there. But the family members DO NOT have any authority to allow photography in Section 60.

Yes, I have been to Arlington, numbnuts. And to the Wall. Several times. I served during that war, and my best childhood friend's name is on that wall.

I also worked out of DC, and had an office there, for 15 years.

So don't lecture me about Arlington cemetery, or anything else, for that matter. All you're doing is trying to stir up sh!t that isn't there, as usual.

It's all partisan speculation on your part. As usual.

You're an embarrassment to humanity.

Waaaaaaah, then you should know that this incident could have very well taken place out of the eyesight of your one guy or some of the family members. All I was saying.

(08-28-2024 10:01 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-28-2024 09:09 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(08-28-2024 09:02 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-28-2024 08:53 AM)TripleA Wrote:  General Kellogg just said in a live interview that he was there, that the families invited Trump and his group there, and that none of them saw anything.

Womp womp.

Have you ever been to Arlington? Do you not understand that one individual can't see everything that takes place in the entirety of the cemetery?

And yes, some of the family members invited him there. But the family members DO NOT have any authority to allow photography in Section 60.

Yes, I have been to Arlington, numbnuts. And to the Wall. Several times. I served during that war, and my best childhood friend's name is on that wall.

I also worked out of DC, and had an office there, for 15 years.

So don't lecture me about Arlington cemetery, or anything else, for that matter. All you're doing is trying to stir up sh!t that isn't there, as usual.

It's all partisan speculation on your part. As usual.

You're an embarrassment to humanity.

Waaaaaaah, then you should know that this incident could have very well taken place out of the eyesight of your one guy or some of the family members. All I was saying.

Just take the L that your "gotcha" OP was shot down in a matter of minutes.

(08-28-2024 09:41 AM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  

(08-28-2024 09:39 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  well, I warned Tom not to double down on stupid.

So, it sounds like the Arlington cumquat Karen decided to try to interrupt a very solemn gold star families' ceremony. Well done, libturds. Well done.

“There was no physical altercation as described and we are prepared to release footage if such defamatory claims are made,” he said in the statement.

“The fact is that a private photographer was permitted on the premises and for whatever reason an unnamed individual, clearly suffering from a mental health episode, decided to physically block members of President Trump’s team during a very solemn ceremony.”

Cheung also directed The Independent to a post on X, where he had refuted the claim the Trump campaign had been told they were not be permitted to film or take photos in the area.

Responding to a post from NPR correspondent David Folkenflik, in which he appeared to share screenshots of an email reporting the alleged incident, Cheung insisted “we were granted access to have a photographer there” and shared his own screenshot which read: “Only former president Trump may have an official photographer and/or videographer outside of the main media pool.”

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world...02931.html

But...but...ORANGE MAN BAD! REEEEEEEEEEEE!

Take the nutkick, leftists.

Right, the word of trump tool Cheung, is beyond reproach! That dude is a tool. And yeah, the orange man is VERY bad.

And NONE of that points to any direct authorization for the trump photo and video guy to take photos in Section 60.

Also, Cheung has released NO video footage despite claiming he has it.

(08-28-2024 09:58 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-28-2024 09:07 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(08-28-2024 08:51 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-28-2024 08:40 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(08-28-2024 08:22 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  And the final disgrace in this cheap photo-op. Smiling with a thumb up at the graves of heroes, one having nothing to do with the Afghanistan departure he's using. But yeah, Biden glanced at his watch a couple times, so we're "even."

Wasn't he invited there by the families? Glancing at his watch, trying to make it more about him and Beau, etc.... You really ought to read the comments from the parents on Bidens actions during the time they brought those service members back.

While president, trump went to ONE dignified transfer service. A Gold Star Family member was upset with him after the loss of his son and publicly called him out. trump then ceded that responsibility to Pence and didn't attend another transfer for quite some time.

And again, there were 13 lost that day, so their extended families probably approaches several dozen. So I'm sure many of them were upset at their loss and a few of them had no issue inviting trump and posing for his disgraceful photo-op.

Perhaps you should confer with the family of the other hero who didn't die at the Abbey Gate and ask how they feel about people standing on his grave for a cheap photo-op?

But as I said, I am waiting for the whole story. If indeed someone at Arlington approved a trump photo and video guy, was that approval just for the wreath ceremony? Or was it for Section 60? Section 60 is a special place and Arlington controls photos there with even tighter security. And if trump was somehow allowed to have his photo and video guy there, did his staff still shove a worker out of the way? Again, that worker was likely a veteran. But of course Scout above knows that guy was a "butthurt liberal" because he has no respect for anyone while he protects his Dear Cult Leader.

I haven't heard them complain like I have the parents of the 13 have you? Didn't think so. You have a bad habit of coming up with what if's to defend the actions of democrats while attacking Trump. Fact is several parents of the 13 were offended by Biden. Fact is they invited Trump which would indicate they are not offended by him.

Yeah, so? Didn't dispute any of that. Other than the fact that you have no idea, nor do I, how EVERY family member of the 13 feel. So we should not assume that we do.

You of all people ought to know that if someone hated Trump and didn't want him there we would have had all kinds of media reports on it. So it's a pretty safe assumption.

(08-28-2024 10:03 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(08-28-2024 10:01 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-28-2024 09:09 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(08-28-2024 09:02 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-28-2024 08:53 AM)TripleA Wrote:  General Kellogg just said in a live interview that he was there, that the families invited Trump and his group there, and that none of them saw anything.

Womp womp.

Have you ever been to Arlington? Do you not understand that one individual can't see everything that takes place in the entirety of the cemetery?

And yes, some of the family members invited him there. But the family members DO NOT have any authority to allow photography in Section 60.

Yes, I have been to Arlington, numbnuts. And to the Wall. Several times. I served during that war, and my best childhood friend's name is on that wall.

I also worked out of DC, and had an office there, for 15 years.

So don't lecture me about Arlington cemetery, or anything else, for that matter. All you're doing is trying to stir up sh!t that isn't there, as usual.

It's all partisan speculation on your part. As usual.

You're an embarrassment to humanity.

Waaaaaaah, then you should know that this incident could have very well taken place out of the eyesight of your one guy or some of the family members. All I was saying.

Just take the L that your "gotcha" OP was shot down in a matter of minutes.

You didn't actually read the OP yet, did you?

Quote:I'm gonna wait for a full report, but this is not sitting well with many veterans.

And I've reiterated this a few times above as well. Was trump granted access for Section 60 photography, or just to have a guy outside of the normal press poll at the wreath laying. There's a BIG distinction between the two places for veterans. You should know this.

The two Ts in here are battling to see which one is the more obtuse today. It's a close call.

(08-28-2024 10:05 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(08-28-2024 09:58 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-28-2024 09:07 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(08-28-2024 08:51 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-28-2024 08:40 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  Wasn't he invited there by the families? Glancing at his watch, trying to make it more about him and Beau, etc.... You really ought to read the comments from the parents on Bidens actions during the time they brought those service members back.

While president, trump went to ONE dignified transfer service. A Gold Star Family member was upset with him after the loss of his son and publicly called him out. trump then ceded that responsibility to Pence and didn't attend another transfer for quite some time.

And again, there were 13 lost that day, so their extended families probably approaches several dozen. So I'm sure many of them were upset at their loss and a few of them had no issue inviting trump and posing for his disgraceful photo-op.

Perhaps you should confer with the family of the other hero who didn't die at the Abbey Gate and ask how they feel about people standing on his grave for a cheap photo-op?

But as I said, I am waiting for the whole story. If indeed someone at Arlington approved a trump photo and video guy, was that approval just for the wreath ceremony? Or was it for Section 60? Section 60 is a special place and Arlington controls photos there with even tighter security. And if trump was somehow allowed to have his photo and video guy there, did his staff still shove a worker out of the way? Again, that worker was likely a veteran. But of course Scout above knows that guy was a "butthurt liberal" because he has no respect for anyone while he protects his Dear Cult Leader.

I haven't heard them complain like I have the parents of the 13 have you? Didn't think so. You have a bad habit of coming up with what if's to defend the actions of democrats while attacking Trump. Fact is several parents of the 13 were offended by Biden. Fact is they invited Trump which would indicate they are not offended by him.

Yeah, so? Didn't dispute any of that. Other than the fact that you have no idea, nor do I, how EVERY family member of the 13 feel. So we should not assume that we do.

You of all people ought to know that if someone hated Trump and didn't want him there we would have had all kinds of media reports on it. So it's a pretty safe assumption.

Maybe. But you should also know that perhaps some family members want to keep politics and the media out of their tragedy.

(08-28-2024 10:05 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-28-2024 09:41 AM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  

(08-28-2024 09:39 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  well, I warned Tom not to double down on stupid.

So, it sounds like the Arlington cumquat Karen decided to try to interrupt a very solemn gold star families' ceremony. Well done, libturds. Well done.

“There was no physical altercation as described and we are prepared to release footage if such defamatory claims are made,” he said in the statement.

“The fact is that a private photographer was permitted on the premises and for whatever reason an unnamed individual, clearly suffering from a mental health episode, decided to physically block members of President Trump’s team during a very solemn ceremony.”

Cheung also directed The Independent to a post on X, where he had refuted the claim the Trump campaign had been told they were not be permitted to film or take photos in the area.

Responding to a post from NPR correspondent David Folkenflik, in which he appeared to share screenshots of an email reporting the alleged incident, Cheung insisted “we were granted access to have a photographer there” and shared his own screenshot which read: “Only former president Trump may have an official photographer and/or videographer outside of the main media pool.”

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world...02931.html

But...but...ORANGE MAN BAD! REEEEEEEEEEEE!

Take the nutkick, leftists.

Right, the word of trump tool Cheung, is beyond reproach! That dude is a tool. And yeah, the orange man is VERY bad.

And NONE of that points to any direct authorization for the trump photo and video guy to take photos in Section 60.

Also, Cheung has released NO video footage despite claiming he has it.

I posted the federal law as reported by the independent in my post.

Trump was allowed to be there.

His photographer was allowed to be there.

Because it wasnt a campaign event.

Take the "L", #sofaBois.

(08-28-2024 10:08 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-28-2024 10:05 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(08-28-2024 09:58 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-28-2024 09:07 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(08-28-2024 08:51 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  While president, trump went to ONE dignified transfer service. A Gold Star Family member was upset with him after the loss of his son and publicly called him out. trump then ceded that responsibility to Pence and didn't attend another transfer for quite some time.

And again, there were 13 lost that day, so their extended families probably approaches several dozen. So I'm sure many of them were upset at their loss and a few of them had no issue inviting trump and posing for his disgraceful photo-op.

Perhaps you should confer with the family of the other hero who didn't die at the Abbey Gate and ask how they feel about people standing on his grave for a cheap photo-op?

But as I said, I am waiting for the whole story. If indeed someone at Arlington approved a trump photo and video guy, was that approval just for the wreath ceremony? Or was it for Section 60? Section 60 is a special place and Arlington controls photos there with even tighter security. And if trump was somehow allowed to have his photo and video guy there, did his staff still shove a worker out of the way? Again, that worker was likely a veteran. But of course Scout above knows that guy was a "butthurt liberal" because he has no respect for anyone while he protects his Dear Cult Leader.

I haven't heard them complain like I have the parents of the 13 have you? Didn't think so. You have a bad habit of coming up with what if's to defend the actions of democrats while attacking Trump. Fact is several parents of the 13 were offended by Biden. Fact is they invited Trump which would indicate they are not offended by him.

Yeah, so? Didn't dispute any of that. Other than the fact that you have no idea, nor do I, how EVERY family member of the 13 feel. So we should not assume that we do.

You of all people ought to know that if someone hated Trump and didn't want him there we would have had all kinds of media reports on it. So it's a pretty safe assumption.

Maybe. But you should also know that perhaps some family members want to keep politics and the media out of their tragedy.

Even as they would like some recognition of their children which they are getting from Trump. Not so much from your side.

(08-28-2024 10:00 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  Its sad that these family members lost their loved one due to Kamala's incompetence. (Someone remind Joe they died on his watch.)

Its even sadder that gold star families cant have a solemn ceremony for the fallen family members, in which Biden*, Harris, and stolen valor Tim "scout" Walz refused to attend, without some menstruating tds suffering karen throwing a hissy fit about stuff they no nothing about.

It's sadder that you are using their deaths to score cheap political points.

And I love that you keep doubling down on your scout idiocy. What a clown you are.

(08-28-2024 10:11 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(08-28-2024 10:08 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-28-2024 10:05 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(08-28-2024 09:58 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-28-2024 09:07 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  I haven't heard them complain like I have the parents of the 13 have you? Didn't think so. You have a bad habit of coming up with what if's to defend the actions of democrats while attacking Trump. Fact is several parents of the 13 were offended by Biden. Fact is they invited Trump which would indicate they are not offended by him.

Yeah, so? Didn't dispute any of that. Other than the fact that you have no idea, nor do I, how EVERY family member of the 13 feel. So we should not assume that we do.

You of all people ought to know that if someone hated Trump and didn't want him there we would have had all kinds of media reports on it. So it's a pretty safe assumption.

Maybe. But you should also know that perhaps some family members want to keep politics and the media out of their tragedy.

Even as they would like some recognition of their children which they are getting from Trump. Not so much from your side.

That might mean something if trump didn't have his history. See McCain, Kelly, etc,

(08-28-2024 10:09 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(08-28-2024 10:05 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-28-2024 09:41 AM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  

(08-28-2024 09:39 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  well, I warned Tom not to double down on stupid.

So, it sounds like the Arlington cumquat Karen decided to try to interrupt a very solemn gold star families' ceremony. Well done, libturds. Well done.

“There was no physical altercation as described and we are prepared to release footage if such defamatory claims are made,” he said in the statement.

“The fact is that a private photographer was permitted on the premises and for whatever reason an unnamed individual, clearly suffering from a mental health episode, decided to physically block members of President Trump’s team during a very solemn ceremony.”

Cheung also directed The Independent to a post on X, where he had refuted the claim the Trump campaign had been told they were not be permitted to film or take photos in the area.

Responding to a post from NPR correspondent David Folkenflik, in which he appeared to share screenshots of an email reporting the alleged incident, Cheung insisted “we were granted access to have a photographer there” and shared his own screenshot which read: “Only former president Trump may have an official photographer and/or videographer outside of the main media pool.”

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world...02931.html

But...but...ORANGE MAN BAD! REEEEEEEEEEEE!

Take the nutkick, leftists.

Right, the word of trump tool Cheung, is beyond reproach! That dude is a tool. And yeah, the orange man is VERY bad.

And NONE of that points to any direct authorization for the trump photo and video guy to take photos in Section 60.

Also, Cheung has released NO video footage despite claiming he has it.

I posted the federal law as reported by the independent in my post.

Trump was allowed to be there.

His photographer was allowed to be there.

Because it wasnt a campaign event.

Take the "L", #sofaBois.

UMabla, Arlington has separate rules for Section 60.

Cheung has not provided that separate authorization. He has not released this alleged video.

Take the L, Scout.

(08-28-2024 10:13 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-28-2024 10:11 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(08-28-2024 10:08 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-28-2024 10:05 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(08-28-2024 09:58 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Yeah, so? Didn't dispute any of that. Other than the fact that you have no idea, nor do I, how EVERY family member of the 13 feel. So we should not assume that we do.

You of all people ought to know that if someone hated Trump and didn't want him there we would have had all kinds of media reports on it. So it's a pretty safe assumption.

Maybe. But you should also know that perhaps some family members want to keep politics and the media out of their tragedy.

Even as they would like some recognition of their children which they are getting from Trump. Not so much from your side.

That might mean something if trump didn't have his history. See McCain, Kelly, etc,

And his history is still better than recent dem presidents.

(08-28-2024 10:08 AM)TripleA Wrote:  The two Ts in here are battling to see which one is the more obtuse today. It's a close call.

You, who claim not to like trump, battling to see how much you can take before gagging.

(08-28-2024 10:15 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(08-28-2024 10:13 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-28-2024 10:11 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(08-28-2024 10:08 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-28-2024 10:05 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  You of all people ought to know that if someone hated Trump and didn't want him there we would have had all kinds of media reports on it. So it's a pretty safe assumption.

Maybe. But you should also know that perhaps some family members want to keep politics and the media out of their tragedy.

Even as they would like some recognition of their children which they are getting from Trump. Not so much from your side.

That might mean something if trump didn't have his history. See McCain, Kelly, etc,

And his history is still better than recent dem presidents.

******* laughable.