(08-26-2024 05:46 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(08-26-2024 05:39 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(08-26-2024 01:00 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(08-26-2024 12:50 PM)VA49er Wrote:  Seems some artists want the best of best worlds. They want the lucrative payday that comes will selling off the rights to their music and then they still want say over what happens with that music. Unless there is something spelled out in the sales contract that dictates otherwise, I think the artist ceases to have sway in what happens with their music afterwards.

The rights owner still has the say. And in terms of the clearance houses, ASCAP and BMI may have the ability to license their licensees works to a base large amount of other third parties, and uses. Yet their agreement with the rights holder still allows the rights holder to give a thumbs up or a thumbs down in many circumstances. Like campaign licenses.

It may be that an artist has that power in a certain instance (or it may not as neither of us knows the details of any individual artist's bands contract). What is clear is all the artist can do is revoke the rights for that purpose---but they would have zero grounds for obtaining millions for past usage by the campaign.

If the piece were on the exceptions list, they could absolutely go for statutory damages for past use without a lot of trouble. Maybe even get an injunction -- which wouldnt look good for the Trump campaign.

I agree that they couldnt go 'for obtaining millions', but disagree with the 'zero grounds' overall.

But I do not know if the piece is on the exceptions for the Trump Blanket Campaign License.

therefore, they'd be gay-(d)arred more than they already are ... that guy can write some riffs with a wry one; that I'll concede ... other than that, he can fk the fk off...

What is Foo and why are we fighting it?

In the 1990's I liked them for a bit.

Now all of their songs sound like the background Muzak for Gillette commercials.

(08-26-2024 06:09 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(08-26-2024 05:46 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(08-26-2024 05:39 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(08-26-2024 01:00 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(08-26-2024 12:50 PM)VA49er Wrote:  Seems some artists want the best of best worlds. They want the lucrative payday that comes will selling off the rights to their music and then they still want say over what happens with that music. Unless there is something spelled out in the sales contract that dictates otherwise, I think the artist ceases to have sway in what happens with their music afterwards.

The rights owner still has the say. And in terms of the clearance houses, ASCAP and BMI may have the ability to license their licensees works to a base large amount of other third parties, and uses. Yet their agreement with the rights holder still allows the rights holder to give a thumbs up or a thumbs down in many circumstances. Like campaign licenses.

It may be that an artist has that power in a certain instance (or it may not as neither of us knows the details of any individual artist's bands contract). What is clear is all the artist can do is revoke the rights for that purpose---but they would have zero grounds for obtaining millions for past usage by the campaign.

If the piece were on the exceptions list, they could absolutely go for statutory damages for past use without a lot of trouble. Maybe even get an injunction -- which wouldnt look good for the Trump campaign.

I agree that they couldnt go 'for obtaining millions', but disagree with the 'zero grounds' overall.

But I do not know if the piece is on the exceptions for the Trump Blanket Campaign License.

therefore, they'd be gay-(d)arred more than they already are ... that guy can write some riffs with a wry one; that I'll concede ... other than that, he can fk the fk off...

Did i miss it? Did Tanq finally come of the closet.

If Trump had a 1000 page list if things this is page 1001

Wgaf

(08-26-2024 10:04 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(08-26-2024 06:09 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(08-26-2024 05:46 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(08-26-2024 05:39 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(08-26-2024 01:00 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  The rights owner still has the say. And in terms of the clearance houses, ASCAP and BMI may have the ability to license their licensees works to a base large amount of other third parties, and uses. Yet their agreement with the rights holder still allows the rights holder to give a thumbs up or a thumbs down in many circumstances. Like campaign licenses.

It may be that an artist has that power in a certain instance (or it may not as neither of us knows the details of any individual artist's bands contract). What is clear is all the artist can do is revoke the rights for that purpose---but they would have zero grounds for obtaining millions for past usage by the campaign.

If the piece were on the exceptions list, they could absolutely go for statutory damages for past use without a lot of trouble. Maybe even get an injunction -- which wouldnt look good for the Trump campaign.

I agree that they couldnt go 'for obtaining millions', but disagree with the 'zero grounds' overall.

But I do not know if the piece is on the exceptions for the Trump Blanket Campaign License.

therefore, they'd be gay-(d)arred more than they already are ... that guy can write some riffs with a wry one; that I'll concede ... other than that, he can fk the fk off...

Did i miss it? Did Tanq finally come of the closet.

If Trump had a 1000 page list if things this is page 1001

Wgaf

Maybe try repeating Reading Comprehension 101. I think you skipped too many classes there your last time trying that study subject.

(08-26-2024 01:29 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(08-26-2024 12:57 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  can't believe none of ya ol' coots plowed this biatch over ... yeah, I still remember ... while they're different, the premise is the same ... it's like waves and particles can coexist in the quantum ...

Yeah, I remember that, it was before Layne got with AIC....

90s had some great rock/metal voices and Layne Staley would be in top 3 easily (my top 2 behind Chris Cornell)


Had this one on as I drove my grandson to school this morning and them Bones on the way home

My favorite singer, my favorite guitarist and my favorite band even to this day.

Jerry Cantrell had a massive influence on my guitar sound.

And nobody EVER did vocal harmonies like Jerry and Layne.

(08-26-2024 10:44 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(08-26-2024 01:29 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(08-26-2024 12:57 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  can't believe none of ya ol' coots plowed this biatch over ... yeah, I still remember ... while they're different, the premise is the same ... it's like waves and particles can coexist in the quantum ...

Yeah, I remember that, it was before Layne got with AIC....

90s had some great rock/metal voices and Layne Staley would be in top 3 easily (my top 2 behind Chris Cornell)


Had this one on as I drove my grandson to school this morning and them Bones on the way home

My favorite singer, my favorite guitarist and my favorite band even to this day.

Jerry Cantrell had a massive influence on my guitar sound.

And nobody EVER did vocal harmonies like Jerry and Layne.

have you posted anything new on the YT ... new computer ... link the former if you would/could, please ('cause it's really good)

(08-26-2024 10:49 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  have you posted anything new on the YT ... new computer ... link the former if you would/could, please ('cause it's really good)

I haven't put anything up this year, I reconnected with my old band late last year (yep, we "got the band back together" lol after 20 years) so I've been wrapped up with what we are doing plus another side band doing some covers. So that plus a small business I'm trying to start up from home has kept me busy this year. Its been really great but I was just beginning to put a channel together and I had to put it on the back burner for a little while.

I'm gonna post some demo covers we did back in 2004 pretty soon. Shine (Collective Soul), Little Wing (Jimi Hendrix) and Sex Type Thing (STP). Maybe a few more. Hopefully some newer stuff will follow in the months ahead.






I literally made this one up as it was recording




And a Red House cover from back in 2001 (were very young and only been a band about a year)

^^ Those are really good, Eric. I'm old enough that the blues is my absolute favorite music genre.

(08-26-2024 10:04 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(08-26-2024 06:09 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(08-26-2024 05:46 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(08-26-2024 05:39 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(08-26-2024 01:00 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  The rights owner still has the say. And in terms of the clearance houses, ASCAP and BMI may have the ability to license their licensees works to a base large amount of other third parties, and uses. Yet their agreement with the rights holder still allows the rights holder to give a thumbs up or a thumbs down in many circumstances. Like campaign licenses.

It may be that an artist has that power in a certain instance (or it may not as neither of us knows the details of any individual artist's bands contract). What is clear is all the artist can do is revoke the rights for that purpose---but they would have zero grounds for obtaining millions for past usage by the campaign.

If the piece were on the exceptions list, they could absolutely go for statutory damages for past use without a lot of trouble. Maybe even get an injunction -- which wouldnt look good for the Trump campaign.

I agree that they couldnt go 'for obtaining millions', but disagree with the 'zero grounds' overall.

But I do not know if the piece is on the exceptions for the Trump Blanket Campaign License.

therefore, they'd be gay-(d)arred more than they already are ... that guy can write some riffs with a wry one; that I'll concede ... other than that, he can fk the fk off...

Did i miss it? Did Tanq finally come of the closet.

If Trump had a 1000 page list if things this is page 1001

Wgaf

oh, heyall naw ... I was just funnin' with muh puns and fo'twinsZero (code for 420) ...

tanq doesn't bother me ... I'm easily the bigger arsehole ... toss in a Rice U feller that's still 0-fer, and I'm cool with that ...

ya just gotta laugh at this shite...

it's like I told muh form paw-in-law (we called him, Poppy! ... that man was as solid as any), "gals and guys (gran and poppy), if'n y'all don't git up off yo' arse, that Fox shite is gonna kill ya ... Poppy died in less than year...

#0'bummerEra (that's obama magoo fagoo raghag-head for the densities)...

^^ My 4 grandkids and one great grandson all call me Poppy.

(08-26-2024 10:24 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(08-26-2024 10:04 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(08-26-2024 06:09 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(08-26-2024 05:46 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(08-26-2024 05:39 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  It may be that an artist has that power in a certain instance (or it may not as neither of us knows the details of any individual artist's bands contract). What is clear is all the artist can do is revoke the rights for that purpose---but they would have zero grounds for obtaining millions for past usage by the campaign.

If the piece were on the exceptions list, they could absolutely go for statutory damages for past use without a lot of trouble. Maybe even get an injunction -- which wouldnt look good for the Trump campaign.

I agree that they couldnt go 'for obtaining millions', but disagree with the 'zero grounds' overall.

But I do not know if the piece is on the exceptions for the Trump Blanket Campaign License.

therefore, they'd be gay-(d)arred more than they already are ... that guy can write some riffs with a wry one; that I'll concede ... other than that, he can fk the fk off...

Did i miss it? Did Tanq finally come of the closet.

If Trump had a 1000 page list if things this is page 1001

Wgaf

Maybe try repeating Reading Comprehension 101. I think you skipped too many classes there your last time trying that study subject.

Maybe you should think three steps ahead you pedantic prick

(08-26-2024 11:21 PM)TripleA Wrote:  ^^ Those are really good, Eric. I'm old enough that the blues is my absolute favorite music genre.

Thanks

Its become my favorite thing to play over the years. When I was younger it was all grunge/alt rock plus a lot of classic rock. I still enjoy all that stuff but I tend to play blues more than ever now.

(08-26-2024 11:07 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(08-26-2024 10:49 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  have you posted anything new on the YT ... new computer ... link the former if you would/could, please ('cause it's really good)

I haven't put anything up this year, I reconnected with my old band late last year (yep, we "got the band back together" lol after 20 years) so I've been wrapped up with what we are doing plus another side band doing some covers. So that plus a small business I'm trying to start up from home has kept me busy this year. Its been really great but I was just beginning to put a channel together and I had to put it on the back burner for a little while.

I'm gonna post some demo covers we did back in 2004 pretty soon. Shine (Collective Soul), Little Wing (Jimi Hendrix) and Sex Type Thing (STP). Maybe a few more. Hopefully some newer stuff will follow in the months ahead.






I literally made this one up as it was recording




And a Red House cover from back in 2001 (were very young and only been a band about a year)

the second one .. what are you playing (guitar) and the ga. range (strings) ... dude, you're scaring me with the D (quite led Z-ish with the groove) ... can't wait to listen to the drop ... ever play in open G .... yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...

(08-26-2024 11:21 PM)TripleA Wrote:  ^^ Those are really good, Eric. I'm old enough that the blues is my absolute favorite music genre.

yeah ... he smokes my arse in more ways than one ... #neverTheCentipedeLivesMatter

(08-26-2024 11:38 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  the second one .. what are you playing (guitar) and the ga. range (strings) ... dude, you're scaring me with the D (quite led Z-ish with the groove) ... can't wait to listen to the drop ... ever play in open G .... yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...

Its my 1975-76 Sigma SDR-7S

Martin 12 gauge strings, but I use bronze instead of phosphor bronze (just as deep but more high end imo). I think Martin labels them 80/20 bronze as of late.

My dad bought it back in 1977 and its hard to pin down the exact year because Sigma serial numbers in that era don't mean jack. But I'm 100% sure its a 75-76 model based on several factors. Those were the only 2 years the headstock, logo and specs match up. He passed it to me when he got His Martin D-41 in 1998.

Its an incredibly good sounding acoustic, techs and friends all love to play it. The early and mid 70's Sigmas sound really good.

I actually play in open G a lot the last 5-7 years. That blues improvisation is in open D.

I thought it had a little Page/Zep feel to it as well. I'm often thinking of his stuff when I'm making something up in those tunings.

(08-27-2024 12:15 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(08-26-2024 11:38 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  the second one .. what are you playing (guitar) and the ga. range (strings) ... dude, you're scaring me with the D (quite led Z-ish with the groove) ... can't wait to listen to the drop ... ever play in open G .... yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...

Its my 1975-76 Sigma SDR-7S

Martin 12 gauge strings, but I use bronze instead of phosphor bronze (just as deep but more high end imo). I think Martin labels them 80/20 bronze as of late.

My dad brought it back in 1977 and its hard to pin down the exact year because Sigma serial numbers in the era don't mean jack. But I'm 100% sure its a 75-76 model based on several factors. Those were the only 2 years the headstock and specs match up.

Its an incredibly good sounding acoustic, tech and friends all love to play it. The early and mid 70's Sigmas sound really good.

I actually play in open G a lot the last 5-7 years. That blues improvisation is in open D.

I knew you were open D ... I have a old Fender I like to beat on (don't care about intonation and the such) that happens when if .09 moving to .13 at the high E ... she just got an upgrade ... drop D is my fave ... it's a TOOL thingy (coupled with too may artists to list) ...

top shelf, Eric!

(08-27-2024 12:22 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  I knew you were open D ... I have a old Fender I like to beat on (don't care about intonation and the such) that happens when if .09 moving to .13 at the high E ... she just got an upgrade ... drop D is my fave ... it's a TOOL thingy (coupled with too may artists to list) ...

top shelf, Eric!

I use drop D a lot too. I dig Tool as well

(08-26-2024 11:30 PM)TripleA Wrote:  ^^ My 4 grandkids and one great grandson all call me Poppy.

Can we call you Paaappy?

(08-27-2024 07:13 AM)gdunn Wrote:  

(08-26-2024 11:30 PM)TripleA Wrote:  ^^ My 4 grandkids and one great grandson all call me Poppy.

Can we call you Paaappy?

Hell, that works. Better than Tom calling me "Old Man with a malfunctioning brain."

(08-26-2024 09:55 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  What is Foo and why are we fighting it?

In the 1990's I liked them for a bit.

Now all of their songs sound like the background Muzak for Gillette commercials.

I feel that way about the whole grunge thing.

Started out decent but had no staying power. There will never be grunge dedicated radio stations like there are 80's stations now.