For the first time this election cycle, voters trust the Democratic candidate more than former President Trump on the economy, according to new polling released by the Financial Times and the University of Michigan.

Why it matters: The share of voters who say they don't trust either Trump or Vice President Kamala Harris nearly fell by half — another example of the disappearing "double hater."
The survey "marks a sharp change in voter sentiment following President Joe Biden's withdrawal from the White House race" last month, according to the FT.
What they're saying: "The fact that voters were more positive on [Vice President] Harris than on Biden ... says as much about how badly Biden was doing as it does about how well Harris is doing," Michigan professor Erik Gordon told the paper.

https://www.axios.com/2024/08/12/harris-...4-election

Right

At this point, should she even debate?
If Trump is losing or even on the economy, then he’s toast.

- 1000 registered voters (no further demographics given, like oversampling, etc)
- done Aug 1-5 (the immediate shock and awe, Biden's gone days)

(08-12-2024 07:29 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  At this point, should she even debate?
If Trump is losing or even on the economy, then he’s toast.

Should? 'Can' is the better query.

She seems to have micropho-bia: fear of microphones.
Her prophilactic for that is something called "teleprompter".

(08-12-2024 07:29 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  At this point, should she even debate?
If Trump is losing or even on the economy, then he’s toast.

Regardless of anyone's political stance - everyone should be insisting that our candidates have debates to inform voters what each person stands for on the the issues.

When people from either side says "X candidate is ahead, so he/she shouldn't debate candidate Y" - they're wrong. Each election should have 3 debates scheduled so that we get the details.

Mensa is scared chitless of a Trump/Harris debate

(08-12-2024 07:32 AM)The Sicatoka Wrote:  

(08-12-2024 07:29 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  At this point, should she even debate?
If Trump is losing or even on the economy, then he’s toast.

Should? 'Can' is the better query.

As a prosecutor & former AG, I think she can more than hold her own… the issue in “debating” Trump is getting bogged down trying to argue facts while he fills the space with garbled words, lies & sound bytes. All she needs to do is land a few zingers, which she is more than capable, and then stay on message.

lol, it's amazing that some people simply believe everything they read online.

Propaganda.

(08-12-2024 07:33 AM)miko33 Wrote:  

(08-12-2024 07:29 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  At this point, should she even debate?
If Trump is losing or even on the economy, then he’s toast.

Regardless of anyone's political stance - everyone should be insisting that our candidates have debates to inform voters what each person stands for on the the issues.

When people from either side says "X candidate is ahead, so he/she shouldn't debate candidate Y" - they're wrong. Each election should have 3 debates scheduled so that we get the details.

Oh, I agree. I’m just being facetious.

Harris is truly benefiting from the “hate both options” voters & has done an excellent job of framing the choice between old & bitter vs young & hopeful.

I would say "trust" is a strong word.

The left is just so thrilled that they got rid of the living dead zombie that they will take a moron that knows nothing.

Kamala Harris, the former prosecutor and CA AG, in a debate, was dismantled, and her campaign ended, by Tulsi Gabbard.

(08-12-2024 07:37 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(08-12-2024 07:32 AM)The Sicatoka Wrote:  

(08-12-2024 07:29 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  At this point, should she even debate?
If Trump is losing or even on the economy, then he’s toast.

Should? 'Can' is the better query.

As a prosecutor & former AG, I think she can more than hold her own… the issue in “debating” Trump is getting bogged down trying to argue facts while he fills the space with garbled words, lies & sound bytes. All she needs to do is land a few zingers, which she is more than capable, and then stay on message.

Message? What message? "I will fix what I had a hand in breaking"? And "I will wait 6 months to do it until after I'm elected"?
She has no "message". Everything she says she "will do" Trump will respond with "what are you waiting for?". "You've had 3 and a half years". You live in fantasy land with unicorns and rainbows.

(08-12-2024 07:36 AM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  Mensa is scared chitless of a Trump/Harris debate

All of his brand of parasites are.

(08-12-2024 07:37 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(08-12-2024 07:32 AM)The Sicatoka Wrote:  

(08-12-2024 07:29 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  At this point, should she even debate?
If Trump is losing or even on the economy, then he’s toast.

Should? 'Can' is the better query.

As a prosecutor & former AG, I think she can more than hold her own… the issue in “debating” Trump is getting bogged down trying to argue facts while he fills the space with garbled words, lies & sound bytes. All she needs to do is land a few zingers, which she is more than capable, and then stay on message.

Stop trolling. You don't believe that stupid crap any more than I do.

(08-12-2024 07:46 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  

(08-12-2024 07:36 AM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  Mensa is scared chitless of a Trump/Harris debate

All of his brand of parasites are.

Kamabla will never debate Trump. Her handlers know she is dumber than a box of rocks.

(08-12-2024 07:36 AM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  Mensa is scared chitless of a Trump/Harris debate

I mean, they won't even let her do a press conference. Trump will bury her in a debate, and the powers that be know this.

(08-12-2024 07:37 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(08-12-2024 07:32 AM)The Sicatoka Wrote:  

(08-12-2024 07:29 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  At this point, should she even debate?
If Trump is losing or even on the economy, then he’s toast.

Should? 'Can' is the better query.

As a prosecutor & former AG, I think she can more than hold her own… the issue in “debating” Trump is getting bogged down trying to argue facts while he fills the space with garbled words, lies & sound bytes. All she needs to do is land a few zingers, which she is more than capable, and then stay on message.

What IS the dang message?

(08-12-2024 07:40 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(08-12-2024 07:33 AM)miko33 Wrote:  

(08-12-2024 07:29 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  At this point, should she even debate?
If Trump is losing or even on the economy, then he’s toast.

Regardless of anyone's political stance - everyone should be insisting that our candidates have debates to inform voters what each person stands for on the the issues.

When people from either side says "X candidate is ahead, so he/she shouldn't debate candidate Y" - they're wrong. Each election should have 3 debates scheduled so that we get the details.

Oh, I agree. I’m just being facetious.

Harris is truly benefiting from the “hate both options” voters & has done an excellent job of framing the choice between old & bitter vs young & hopeful.

Young and hopeful? She's had FOUR YEARS already. Almost everything is a disaster.

And Walz certainly doesn't conjure up young and hopeful.