At one of the largest political rallies in modern Nevada political history, Vice President Kamala Harris and Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz continued their barnstorming tour as the new Democratic presidential ticket on Saturday — one of the clearest signs yet of Democrats’ renewed hopes in the swing state.
Campaign officials said more than 12,000 people attended the event at UNLV’s Thomas & Mack Center in Las Vegas — by far the biggest crowd for any campaign event in Nevada this election cycle. Local law enforcement prevented an additional 4,000 from entering the arena due to heat-related concerns.
The rally marks the final stop on a weeklong tour of battleground states launched after Walz — the 60-year-old Minnesota governor and military veteran — was picked as Harris’ running mate last week.
In other words, the arena was 40% empty by the source you yourself selected to believe.
The selected article mentioned also said law enforcement turned away an additional 4,000 because of the heat…
In the meantime, Trump rallied a crowd of 2500 in Bozeman with the excitement of a bingo tournament in a retirement village & enough black drapes to decorate a morgue… which is fitting for his dying campaign.
I mean come on. If you're going to post something, at least provide a source for your information. Otherwise, expect someone like yours truly to come along and debunk it.
At one of the largest political rallies in modern Nevada political history, Vice President Kamala Harris and Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz continued their barnstorming tour as the new Democratic presidential ticket on Saturday — one of the clearest signs yet of Democrats’ renewed hopes in the swing state.
Campaign officials said more than 12,000 people attended the event at UNLV’s Thomas & Mack Center in Las Vegas — by far the biggest crowd for any campaign event in Nevada this election cycle. Local law enforcement prevented an additional 4,000 from entering the arena due to heat-related concerns.
The rally marks the final stop on a weeklong tour of battleground states launched after Walz — the 60-year-old Minnesota governor and military veteran — was picked as Harris’ running mate last week.
In other words, the arena was 40% empty by the source you yourself selected to believe.
The selected article mentioned also said law enforcement turned away an additional 4,000 because of the heat…
In the meantime, Trump rallied a crowd of 2500 in Bozeman with the excitement of a bingo tournament in a retirement village & enough black drapes to decorate a morgue… which is fitting for his dying campaign.
I mean come on. If you're going to post something, at least provide a source for your information. Otherwise, expect someone like yours truly to come along and debunk it.
Do better.
The crowd was AI generated. You can’t trust the fake news
RE: Harris campaign digitally alters video to show crowd awaiting her plane
(08-11-2024 06:54 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:
(08-11-2024 06:47 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:
(08-11-2024 06:41 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:
(08-11-2024 06:13 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:
(08-11-2024 05:41 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote: And hundreds of reporters covering the event, yet its all fake. These dopes will attach themselves to any conspiracy the Trump campaign supplies them…
At one of the largest political rallies in modern Nevada political history, Vice President Kamala Harris and Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz continued their barnstorming tour as the new Democratic presidential ticket on Saturday — one of the clearest signs yet of Democrats’ renewed hopes in the swing state.
Campaign officials said more than 12,000 people attended the event at UNLV’s Thomas & Mack Center in Las Vegas — by far the biggest crowd for any campaign event in Nevada this election cycle. Local law enforcement prevented an additional 4,000 from entering the arena due to heat-related concerns.
The rally marks the final stop on a weeklong tour of battleground states launched after Walz — the 60-year-old Minnesota governor and military veteran — was picked as Harris’ running mate last week.
In other words, the arena was 40% empty by the source you yourself selected to believe.
The selected article mentioned also said law enforcement turned away an additional 4,000 because of the heat…
In the meantime, Trump rallied a crowd of 2500 in Bozeman with the excitement of a bingo tournament in a retirement village & enough black drapes to decorate a morgue… which is fitting for his dying campaign.
I mean come on. If you're going to post something, at least provide a source for your information. Otherwise, expect someone like yours truly to come along and debunk it.
Do better.
The crowd was AI generated. You can’t trust the fake news
From the Daily Montanan's website:
Quote:The Daily Montanan is a nonprofit, nonpartisan source for trusted news, commentary and insight into statewide policy and politics beneath the Big Sky.
We’re part of States Newsroom, the nation’s largest state-focused nonprofit news organization.
RE: Harris campaign digitally alters video to show crowd awaiting her plane
(08-11-2024 06:57 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:
(08-11-2024 06:54 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:
(08-11-2024 06:47 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:
(08-11-2024 06:41 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:
(08-11-2024 06:13 PM)Attackcoog Wrote: In other words, the arena was 40% empty by the source you yourself selected to believe.
The selected article mentioned also said law enforcement turned away an additional 4,000 because of the heat…
In the meantime, Trump rallied a crowd of 2500 in Bozeman with the excitement of a bingo tournament in a retirement village & enough black drapes to decorate a morgue… which is fitting for his dying campaign.
I mean come on. If you're going to post something, at least provide a source for your information. Otherwise, expect someone like yours truly to come along and debunk it.
Do better.
The crowd was AI generated. You can’t trust the fake news
From the Daily Montanan's website:
Quote:The Daily Montanan is a nonprofit, nonpartisan source for trusted news, commentary and insight into statewide policy and politics beneath the Big Sky.
We’re part of States Newsroom, the nation’s largest state-focused nonprofit news organization.
Again, do better.
Why? Yall eat that conspiracy **** up…. We know that was fake news. No one turned out to that glorfied HS gymnasium to see The Orange Revenger’s incoherent ramblings in Montana.
(This post was last modified: 08-11-2024 07:24 PM by Marc Mensa.)
At one of the largest political rallies in modern Nevada political history, Vice President Kamala Harris and Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz continued their barnstorming tour as the new Democratic presidential ticket on Saturday — one of the clearest signs yet of Democrats’ renewed hopes in the swing state.
Campaign officials said more than 12,000 people attended the event at UNLV’s Thomas & Mack Center in Las Vegas — by far the biggest crowd for any campaign event in Nevada this election cycle. Local law enforcement prevented an additional 4,000 from entering the arena due to heat-related concerns.
The rally marks the final stop on a weeklong tour of battleground states launched after Walz — the 60-year-old Minnesota governor and military veteran — was picked as Harris’ running mate last week.
In other words, the arena was 40% empty by the source you yourself selected to believe.
The selected article mentioned also said law enforcement turned away an additional 4,000 because of the heat…
In the meantime, Trump rallied a crowd of 2500 in Bozeman with the excitement of a bingo tournament in a retirement village & enough black drapes to decorate a morgue… which is fitting for his dying campaign.
I mean come on. If you're going to post something, at least provide a source for your information. Otherwise, expect someone like yours truly to come along and debunk it.
Do better.
And for reference, 8,000 is about 15% of the entire population of Bozeman.
RE: Harris campaign digitally alters video to show crowd awaiting her plane
(08-11-2024 07:14 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:
(08-11-2024 06:57 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:
(08-11-2024 06:54 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:
(08-11-2024 06:47 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:
(08-11-2024 06:41 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote: The selected article mentioned also said law enforcement turned away an additional 4,000 because of the heat…
In the meantime, Trump rallied a crowd of 2500 in Bozeman with the excitement of a bingo tournament in a retirement village & enough black drapes to decorate a morgue… which is fitting for his dying campaign.
I mean come on. If you're going to post something, at least provide a source for your information. Otherwise, expect someone like yours truly to come along and debunk it.
Do better.
The crowd was AI generated. You can’t trust the fake news
From the Daily Montanan's website:
Quote:The Daily Montanan is a nonprofit, nonpartisan source for trusted news, commentary and insight into statewide policy and politics beneath the Big Sky.
We’re part of States Newsroom, the nation’s largest state-focused nonprofit news organization.
Again, do better.
Why? Yall eat that **** up….
Before I respond to that, I should point out that you were indeed making a joke. I just thought your joke wasn't funny, which is why I responded the way I did. But anyway...
Because you're talking to a former journalist who also happens to have a BFA in film and video production. Because of my education and experience, not only do I know how to fact check stories, I also know how still and video images can be manipulated to fit any party's agenda. (And I mean that to include any individual persons, businesses, government entities, etc.) Trust me, I know for a fact the original post includes doctored video posted by someone employed by the Harris-Walz campaign, and that's because I know what to look for.
Then again, it isn't rocket science so anybody and everybody can learn how to spot doctored photography and videos. Unfortunately, politics are known to cloud the judgement of even the most logical of minds.
(This post was last modified: 08-11-2024 07:32 PM by GeminiCoog.)
RE: Harris campaign digitally alters video to show crowd awaiting her plane
Mensa thinks Kamala's crowds in the pictures are real. Menwhile, look closely at how many arms dude has, and the distorted faces. Some people's heads are shrunken to that of a grapefruit, while one guys head in the back is so large it has to be 2 feet long.
(This post was last modified: 08-11-2024 07:39 PM by UofMstateU.)
RE: Harris campaign digitally alters video to show crowd awaiting her plane
(08-11-2024 07:31 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:
(08-11-2024 07:14 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:
(08-11-2024 06:57 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:
(08-11-2024 06:54 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:
(08-11-2024 06:47 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote: That's funny, because in this story by the Daily Montanan, the crowd was 8,000, at least three times more than what you purported it to be.
I mean come on. If you're going to post something, at least provide a source for your information. Otherwise, expect someone like yours truly to come along and debunk it.
Do better.
The crowd was AI generated. You can’t trust the fake news
From the Daily Montanan's website:
Quote:The Daily Montanan is a nonprofit, nonpartisan source for trusted news, commentary and insight into statewide policy and politics beneath the Big Sky.
We’re part of States Newsroom, the nation’s largest state-focused nonprofit news organization.
Again, do better.
Why? Yall eat that **** up….
Before I respond to that, I should point out that you were indeed making a joke. I just thought your joke wasn't funny, which is why I responded the way I did. But anyway...
Because you're talking to a former journalist who also happens to have a BFA in film and video production. Because of my education and experience, not only do I know how to fact check stories, I also know how still and video images can be manipulated to fit any party's agenda. (And I mean that to include any individual persons, businesses, government entities, etc.) Trust me, I know for a fact the original post includes doctored video posted by someone employed by the Harris-Walz campaign, and that's because I know what to look for.
Then again, it isn't rocket science so anybody and everybody can learn how to spot doctored photography and videos. Unfortunately, politics are known to cloud the judgement of even the most logical of minds.
Great…
Then watch over this 3 hour broadcast from PBS of the Harris Detroit rally & identify for us the deep fakes & AI generated content…
RE: Harris campaign digitally alters video to show crowd awaiting her plane
(08-11-2024 07:37 PM)UofMstateU Wrote: Mensa thinks Kamala's crowds in the pictures are real. Menwhile, look closely at how many arms dude has, and the distorted faces. Some people's heads are shrunken to that of a grapefruit, while one guys head in the back is so large it has to be 2 feet long.
That’s not a published photo from any rally; stop f’ing lying.
RE: Harris campaign digitally alters video to show crowd awaiting her plane
Actually, UofMStateU, that one guy you're pointing out by one of the plane's engines turns out to be two separate people. There's a person in front of the other in question, creating an optical illusion. It was confirmed in the video that they're two separate people. (There, Mensa. Happy? lol)
(This post was last modified: 08-11-2024 07:52 PM by GeminiCoog.)
RE: Harris campaign digitally alters video to show crowd awaiting her plane
Now then, to the video below, provided by Mensa.
For the sake of fairness, this is an initial analysis based on speeding through the video. From what I can tell, there's still no reflection of the crowd in the blue-painted part of the plane. Now I admit that may be an optical illusion of sorts, but it's on my opinion that you'd see it if they were at least ten or fifteen feet in proximity of Air Force Two. But hey, that's just my opinion. There are people who have the same credentials as I that would come to a different conclusion. (Still, after a little more analysis, something's still off about the plane and what's supposed to be reflected in the blue-painted part of it. It looks as it it's somehow reflecting itself back out? Again, could be an optical illusion, albeit a very weird one. Of course, that can be explained by the fact there's a shadow being cast by the hangar, plus it's perfectly reasonable to conclude that there's another plane nearby and it's not a completely perpendicular angle to the camera.)
As for the crowd itself, it does look like a decent crowd in terms of size, but we only see the camera move one way, and that's to track Harris and Walz and their entorage. We don't get a panoramic view of the entire crowd. That may be by design OR, probably more likely, due to the fact the story is Kamala Harris and Tim Walz, which is undoubtedly is. Still, if I were a working video journalist, I would've shown the scope of the crowd and leave no doubt as to the size of the attendance. (But hey, that's just me.)
(This post was last modified: 08-11-2024 08:31 PM by GeminiCoog.)
RE: Harris campaign digitally alters video to show crowd awaiting her plane
(08-11-2024 07:50 PM)warhawk09 Wrote:
(08-11-2024 07:37 PM)UofMstateU Wrote: Mensa thinks Kamala's crowds in the pictures are real. Menwhile, look closely at how many arms dude has, and the distorted faces. Some people's heads are shrunken to that of a grapefruit, while one guys head in the back is so large it has to be 2 feet long.
That’s not a published photo from any rally; stop f’ing lying.
They're going to lose, and the smarter ones amongst them are starting to realize that. They're just following the Great Pumpkin's lead now, sowing seeds of doubt amongst the less intelligent in their ranks for another "Stop the Steal" push following Trump's 2nd consecutive Presidential defeat. We've seen this movie before, doubting President Biden's vote totals "because he was in the basement". This time it'll be Kamala didn't get all those votes nobody actually went to her rallies.
We're not going back, and Trump isn't going back to the White House either.
RE: Harris campaign digitally alters video to show crowd awaiting her plane
(08-11-2024 08:00 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote: Now then, to the video below, provided by Mensa.
For the sake of fairness, this is an initial analysis based on speeding through the video. From what I can tell, there's still no reflection of the crowd in the blue-painted part of the plane. Now I admit that may be an optical illusion of sorts, but it's on my opinion that you'd see it if they were at least ten or fifteen feet in proximity of Air Force Two. But hey, that's just my opinion. There are people who have the same credentials as I that would come to a different conclusion. (Still, after a little more analysis, something's still off about the plane and what's supposed to be reflected in the blue-painted part of it. It looks as it it's somehow reflecting itself back out? Again, could be an optical illusion, albeit a very weird one. Of course, that can be explained by the fact there's a shadow being cast by the hangar, plus it's perfectly reasonable to conclude that there's another plane nearby and it's not a completely perpendicular angle to the camera.)
As for the crowd itself, it does look like a decent crowd in terms of size, but we only see the camera move one way, and that's to track Harris and Walz and their entorage. We don't get a panoramic view of the entire crowd. That may be by design OR, probably more likely, due to the fact the story is Kamala Harris and Tim Walz, which is undoubtedly is. Still, if I were a working video journalist, I would've shown the scope of the crowd and leave no doubt as to the size of the attendance. (But hey, that's just me.)
C-span. One camera, no cuts. From arrival until just after speeches end.
RE: Harris campaign digitally alters video to show crowd awaiting her plane
The idea that PBS filled in AI footage into their live footage & the hundreds of reporters on site simply covered up the AI generated crowd footage is asinine… but then, Trump only has to post a pic & his MAGGOTs will run with it.
RE: Harris campaign digitally alters video to show crowd awaiting her plane
(08-11-2024 08:34 PM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote:
(08-11-2024 08:00 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote: Now then, to the video below, provided by Mensa.
For the sake of fairness, this is an initial analysis based on speeding through the video. From what I can tell, there's still no reflection of the crowd in the blue-painted part of the plane. Now I admit that may be an optical illusion of sorts, but it's on my opinion that you'd see it if they were at least ten or fifteen feet in proximity of Air Force Two. But hey, that's just my opinion. There are people who have the same credentials as I that would come to a different conclusion. (Still, after a little more analysis, something's still off about the plane and what's supposed to be reflected in the blue-painted part of it. It looks as it it's somehow reflecting itself back out? Again, could be an optical illusion, albeit a very weird one. Of course, that can be explained by the fact there's a shadow being cast by the hangar, plus it's perfectly reasonable to conclude that there's another plane nearby and it's not a completely perpendicular angle to the camera.)
As for the crowd itself, it does look like a decent crowd in terms of size, but we only see the camera move one way, and that's to track Harris and Walz and their entorage. We don't get a panoramic view of the entire crowd. That may be by design OR, probably more likely, due to the fact the story is Kamala Harris and Tim Walz, which is undoubtedly is. Still, if I were a working video journalist, I would've shown the scope of the crowd and leave no doubt as to the size of the attendance. (But hey, that's just me.)
C-span. One camera, no cuts. From arrival until just after speeches end.
No, I mean one singular 360-degree pan all the way around the arena (or hangar) to show the size of the attendance and leave no doubt. (But I do appreciate your trying to help. Thanks.)
Mensa: Hey, I made an honest assessment of the video and explained that the lack of a crowd reflection in the plane could be due to the fact the camera wasn't facing the plane straight on as well as a shadow being cast by the exterior of the building. It ain't my fault things still look off to me. (And yes, in fairness, the other video did seem off, too, now that I think about it.)
My point: People need to be forthcoming on both sides when it comes to trying to present video evidence.
RE: Harris campaign digitally alters video to show crowd awaiting her plane
So yes, the video Mensa posted is real. My issue is now the crowd size, which goes to camera framing and/or movement. The focus should be on those speaking at the podium. At the same time -- and again, this is just me -- I would make one complete 360-degree pan (either moving left-to-right and back or right-to-left and back) to show the size of the crowd and leave absolutely no doubt as to how big -- or small -- the crowd is. I'm not saying they deliberately avoided that. The focus should clearly be on the podium on the stage. It's just what I would've done as a video journalist because crowd size has been made a part of the story of this race as well.
Now seriously, like I told warhawk in another thread, I'm going back to writing my article for my sim league. Have fun, y'all!
(This post was last modified: 08-11-2024 09:03 PM by GeminiCoog.)
RE: Harris campaign digitally alters video to show crowd awaiting her plane
Anybody notice that practically every lefty on the board came running to this thread like it was a 5-alarm fire, yet almost all of them completely avoid any thread which requires a debate on policy? :)
(This post was last modified: 08-12-2024 06:15 AM by TripleA.)
RE: Harris campaign digitally alters video to show crowd awaiting her plane
That’s completely false; most stay away from “news” posted by the POS objectifier of women because it’s clickbait nonsense. Also, when presented facts or our side of the debate, it’s turns into ridiculous nicknames and name calling.
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[NEWS] Harris campaign digitally alters video to show crowd awaiting her plane
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