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Pad that thread count. 01-wingedeagle
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(08-05-2024 09:11 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Pad that thread count. 01-wingedeagle

Why are you here? All you do is bounce around trying to start chit with every conservative poster. You never say anything that has any relevance to anything. When anyone challenges you you claim they're sitting around hitting refresh because they're obsessed with you. I can assure you nobody here is obsessed with your stupid arse. I bet most everyone in your real life despises you as much as virtually all the posters on this forum.

So seriously, what exactly is your point here besides trolling?
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(08-05-2024 09:11 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Pad that thread count. 01-wingedeagle

You just did03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao
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In a time of economic turmoil and WW3 rumors, why would anyone think ‘I’m voting Kamala because she’s *black* and a woman’
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(08-05-2024 09:44 AM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  In a time of economic turmoil and WW3 rumors, why would anyone think ‘I’m voting Kamala because she’s *black* and a woman’

Because the typical Dem voter has the IQ of a Tommie Bois (sub 80).
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Kamala Harris Said 'Bidenomics Is Working' in 2023. Republicans Shouldn't Let Voters Forget It.


Quote:At the beginning of August last year, Kamala Harris praised a jobs report as being an example of "Bidenomics" at work. The term was co-opted by the Biden administration as a means of countering what Republicans were saying about the weak economy. Every good bit of news that came out, they took credit for.

"Bidenomics is working," she said at the time, letting the Biden-Harris administration take credit for the economy that month.



That was a year ago. A lot has changed, particularly the election landscape for the presidency. 2024 has shifted from a rematch of 2020 to Donald Trump now running directly against Harris. But the Biden team made a deliberate choice to call the administration the "Biden-Harris Administration," and to tie her closely to the policies Biden and his team were putting in place.

On Friday, the jobs report for July was abysmal to the point that the markets went into a full-blown panic.

Nonfarm payrolls grew by just 114,000 for the month, down from the downwardly revised 179,000 in June and below the Dow Jones estimate for 185,000. The unemployment rate edged higher to 4.3%, its highest since October 2021.

Average hourly earnings, a closely watched inflation barometer, increased 0.2% for the month and 3.6% from a year ago. Both figures were below respective forecasts for 0.3% and 3.7%.

Stock market futures added to losses following the report while Treasury yields plunged.


And now, as the markets begin to open, things aren't looking much better.

U.S. stock futures sharply fell on Monday as part of a global market sell-off centered around U.S. recession fears. Japan’s Nikkei 225 plunged 12% in its worst day since the 1987 Black Monday crash for Wall Street.

Here’s where U.S. stock market futures stand at the moment:

Dow Jones Industrial Average futures dropped 1,285 points, or 3.2%, following a 611-point loss on Friday.

S&P 500 futures are down 4.4% after the benchmark lost 1.8% on Friday.

Nasdaq-100 futures lost 5.7% as big tech stocks got hit hard in early trading.

If the Dow was to follow through on that decline, it would be the first 1,000 point decline since September 2022.


There are now global fears of a U.S. recession. Given the numbers, there is real concern that the U.S. is, at best, in a pre-recession state.

The Federal Reserve has raised interest rates in a constant effort to combat inflation. Typically, when you start raising interest rates at that pace, it leads to a recession. I say "typically" because it hasn't happened yet, and many economists assumed the Fed had pulled off the soft landing. However, the sudden contraction in the jobs market has brought those worries back to the fore, and people are panicking.

If the Biden-Harris administration was taking credit for the economy a year ago, then it should be made to take credit for it now. In truth, Biden's policies did create the sharp rise in inflation that we as consumers are still dealing with. In truth, that rise in inflation led the Fed to start hiking rates, which forced the economy to begin to contract. In truth, this has led us to where we are today.

The timing could not be worse for Kamala Harris, whose name is one half of the "Biden-Harris" administration. It was her voice that credited "Bidenomics" with the state of the economy. She is tied to all of these policies, and if the economy does go into a full-blown recession, then it will fall on her.

If Republicans want to win in November, they should be running the clip at the beginning of this post every day, following by the July jobs report. It should be in ads everywhere as soon as they can get them on the air. But the Republican Party has been slow to define Harris and slow to properly tie her to the policies of her boss, President Joe Biden. If they want to win, they should probably get on this... like, yesterday.
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5 minutes ago when Tom would post the stock market hits a new high thread this board would accurately point out all the flaws in using the stock market as the main measure of economic health (and I joined in because again it's very true). Let it drop though and all of a sudden it will become the main measure of economic health again, because the narrative fits what this board wants. I'm still trying to find the countries that didn't have sky high inflation during this period, since if I'm to believe this board it only happened because of Biden. I should be able to find another developed country out there that didn't deal with massive inflation starting in 2021, yet somehow I can't.
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(08-05-2024 09:44 AM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  In a time of economic turmoil and WW3 rumors....

Nice talking points....

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(08-05-2024 11:27 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  5 minutes ago when Tom would post the stock market hits a new high thread this board would accurately point out all the flaws in using the stock market as the main measure of economic health (and I joined in because again it's very true). Let it drop though and all of a sudden it will become the main measure of economic health again, because the narrative fits what this board wants. I'm still trying to find the countries that didn't have sky high inflation during this period, since if I'm to believe this board it only happened because of Biden. I should be able to find another developed country out there that didn't deal with massive inflation starting in 2021, yet somehow I can't.

03-yes

But I will point out that nowhere was I ever claiming a new record high in the market was any measure of economic health. 07-coffee3
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(08-05-2024 11:27 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  5 minutes ago when Tom would post the stock market hits a new high thread this board would accurately point out all the flaws in using the stock market as the main measure of economic health (and I joined in because again it's very true). Let it drop though and all of a sudden it will become the main measure of economic health again, because the narrative fits what this board wants. I'm still trying to find the countries that didn't have sky high inflation during this period, since if I'm to believe this board it only happened because of Biden. I should be able to find another developed country out there that didn't deal with massive inflation starting in 2021, yet somehow I can't.


I actually agree with this. Both sides consistently do this when the guy they voted for loses.

In this scenario, the overall economic sentiment to people has been negative since the middle of 2021. That’s all because of inflation and housing affordability. That issue has persisted and real wage growth was down for the majority of that time.

The market correction is more like “see, told you it was a matter of time before the market bubble popped.”


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The "Lincoln Project" needs to realize Trump's been out for 3.5 years.
The guy who got 81M votes and his Veep (selected by demographic not demonstrated ability) own this.
Trump gets to point it all out.
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(08-05-2024 11:42 AM)The Sicatoka Wrote:  The "Lincoln Project" needs to realize Trump's been out for 3.5 years.
The guy who got 81M votes and his Veep (selected by demographic not demonstrated ability) own this.
Trump gets to point it all out.


Exactly. If the shoe was on the other foot, you know the left would be doing the same thing.


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(08-05-2024 11:40 AM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  
(08-05-2024 11:27 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  5 minutes ago when Tom would post the stock market hits a new high thread this board would accurately point out all the flaws in using the stock market as the main measure of economic health (and I joined in because again it's very true). Let it drop though and all of a sudden it will become the main measure of economic health again, because the narrative fits what this board wants. I'm still trying to find the countries that didn't have sky high inflation during this period, since if I'm to believe this board it only happened because of Biden. I should be able to find another developed country out there that didn't deal with massive inflation starting in 2021, yet somehow I can't.


I actually agree with this. Both sides consistently do this when the guy they voted for loses.

In this scenario, the overall economic sentiment to people has been negative since the middle of 2021. That’s all because of inflation and housing affordability. That issue has persisted and real wage growth was down for the majority of that time.

The market correction is more like “see, told you it was a matter of time before the market bubble popped.”


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Absolutely on the bold, but I don't see any way any President could have prevented either of those things from happening. The fact that every single other developed country on earth had the exact same level of spike in inflation tells me it didn't happen just because of Biden policy choices, that it would have happened just the same if Trump was President.

As for housing you already had a supply shortage, then dropped rates to all time lows during the beginning of the pandemic (while Trump was President) making it the cheapest time ever to borrow money. With already low supply and super cheap money available prices stupid skyrocketed, and then when rates go up with the sky high prices they become impossible to afford. Again I don't see what any president including Trump was going to do to combat that.
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(08-05-2024 11:56 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  
(08-05-2024 11:40 AM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  
(08-05-2024 11:27 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  5 minutes ago when Tom would post the stock market hits a new high thread this board would accurately point out all the flaws in using the stock market as the main measure of economic health (and I joined in because again it's very true). Let it drop though and all of a sudden it will become the main measure of economic health again, because the narrative fits what this board wants. I'm still trying to find the countries that didn't have sky high inflation during this period, since if I'm to believe this board it only happened because of Biden. I should be able to find another developed country out there that didn't deal with massive inflation starting in 2021, yet somehow I can't.


I actually agree with this. Both sides consistently do this when the guy they voted for loses.

In this scenario, the overall economic sentiment to people has been negative since the middle of 2021. That’s all because of inflation and housing affordability. That issue has persisted and real wage growth was down for the majority of that time.

The market correction is more like “see, told you it was a matter of time before the market bubble popped.”


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Absolutely on the bold, but I don't see any way any President could have prevented either of those things from happening. The fact that every single other developed country on earth had the exact same level of spike in inflation tells me it didn't happen just because of Biden policy choices, that it would have happened just the same if Trump was President.

As for housing you already had a supply shortage, then dropped rates to all time lows during the beginning of the pandemic making it the cheapest time ever to borrow money. With already low supply and super cheap money available prices stupid skyrocketed, and then when rates go up with the sky high prices they become impossible to afford. Again I don't see what any president including Trump was going to do to combat that.

Biden did not even try to help, he only fanned the flames - Inflation reduction Act my arse.... that was a boondoggle to throw more money away.

You don't know what Trump might have done differently, but it would likely have started with opening up our economy a lot sooner than idiot-puppet-boy did (or was allowed to by his handlers) and I am pretty sure infusing 2 Billion into the system would not been part of his plan either.
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(08-05-2024 11:56 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  Absolutely on the bold, but I don't see any way any President could have prevented either of those things from happening. The fact that every single other developed country on earth had the exact same level of spike in inflation tells me it didn't happen just because of Biden policy choices, that it would have happened just the same if Trump was President.

As for housing you already had a supply shortage, then dropped rates to all time lows during the beginning of the pandemic making it the cheapest time ever to borrow money. With already low supply and super cheap money available prices stupid skyrocketed, and then when rates go up with the sky high prices they become impossible to afford. Again I don't see what any president including Trump was going to do to combat that.

No President could have prevented a global crisis, whether that was COVID with Trump, and Biden with inflation. The biggest difference is that Trump was crucified incorrectly for "not being able to deal with the Pandemic." That same voting base now says that Biden had no control over inflation, it is a global issue. The truth is most people voting value rhetoric over actual policy. Biden practically ignoring economic hardships pretty much sunk his approval rating to the point where the switch was always going to occur at some point.

The Fed is ultimately responsible for letting inflation get so out of hand. They bought the lies from the White House that "it would just go away." The truth is they were handed an artificial recovery in 2021, but screwed the pooch by focusing on who was vaccinated, climate change, & pretending to forgive student loans.
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(08-05-2024 12:05 PM)Eldonabe Wrote:  
(08-05-2024 11:56 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  
(08-05-2024 11:40 AM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  
(08-05-2024 11:27 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  5 minutes ago when Tom would post the stock market hits a new high thread this board would accurately point out all the flaws in using the stock market as the main measure of economic health (and I joined in because again it's very true). Let it drop though and all of a sudden it will become the main measure of economic health again, because the narrative fits what this board wants. I'm still trying to find the countries that didn't have sky high inflation during this period, since if I'm to believe this board it only happened because of Biden. I should be able to find another developed country out there that didn't deal with massive inflation starting in 2021, yet somehow I can't.


I actually agree with this. Both sides consistently do this when the guy they voted for loses.

In this scenario, the overall economic sentiment to people has been negative since the middle of 2021. That’s all because of inflation and housing affordability. That issue has persisted and real wage growth was down for the majority of that time.

The market correction is more like “see, told you it was a matter of time before the market bubble popped.”


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Absolutely on the bold, but I don't see any way any President could have prevented either of those things from happening. The fact that every single other developed country on earth had the exact same level of spike in inflation tells me it didn't happen just because of Biden policy choices, that it would have happened just the same if Trump was President.

As for housing you already had a supply shortage, then dropped rates to all time lows during the beginning of the pandemic making it the cheapest time ever to borrow money. With already low supply and super cheap money available prices stupid skyrocketed, and then when rates go up with the sky high prices they become impossible to afford. Again I don't see what any president including Trump was going to do to combat that.

Biden did not even try to help, he only fanned the flames - Inflation reduction Act my arse.... that was a boondoggle to throw more money away.

You don't know what Trump might have done differently, but it would likely have started with opening up our economy a lot sooner than idiot-puppet-boy did (or was allowed to by his handlers) and I am pretty sure infusing 2 Billion into the system would not been part of his plan either.

South Korea stayed open, their inflation rate went from sub 1% CPI in 2020 to 5.1% in 2022.

https://www.focus-economics.com/country-...inflation/

Sweden stayed open and didn't lock down, their inflation rate went from sub 1% CPI in 2020 to 8.4% in 2022.

https://www.focus-economics.com/country-...%208.4%25.

Again, point to me somewhere where a country didn't have a massive spike in inflation in 2022. I've looked, it don't exist.
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I'm sitting here grinning from ear to ear watching the economic bubble burst. I also know this is just the beginning...,

Wait until the commercial real estate market collapses. That's going to make today's "correction" look like a blip.
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