(07-29-2024 11:47 PM)BlueDragon Wrote:  

(07-29-2024 10:37 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  

(07-29-2024 09:54 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  Trust me when I say this Tommie Bois, absolutely no one missed you. Hell I’d forgotten all about you.

Y'all should prove it by placing him on ignore. If everyone did no one would mistakenly read what he posts through quotes.

Well, anyone on here could replace him. Just read some Alinsky, Trotsky, watch endless hours of CNN and MSNBC political garbage shows and by all means get the latest version of Progressivism. You have to because the goal posts move almost daily.

Once you have indoctrinated yourself you no longer have to think for yourself.

You can post regurgitated propaganda to anyone who either A will listen because they want to hear actual reasons for these beliefs which will never come or B hope to spread the false religion you really worship.

A Guide to being a Tool for Democratic Socialist Party aka the The Oligarchy.

Btw, there is no actual Communist Party. Maybe in name only. But, true Communists are like snow leopards rarely seen.

It’s just an idea to make Dictatorships look good.

My friend, Marxism is alive and well in several countries in South America. Then there's Cuba. There's at least one in Europe and there's China. AND it's coming to a city or town near you in the not too distant future if something isn't done to rid us of them. They are growing increasingly bold and are no longer afraid
of the sunlight.

BLM was originally funded and taught how to organize activists by South American Marxist regimes. They have something like 20 chapters across the country now. And it all started as a hashtag on twitter.

500 marchers carrying Soviet era flags complete with the hammer and sickle. Posters are popping up in cities and towns across the country recruiting new Marxists.

Communism didn't just suddenly cease to exist with the toppling of the Berlin Wall and the dissolution of the Soviet Union. It moved here and became the Green party. Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.

(07-29-2024 09:39 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  

(07-29-2024 03:36 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(07-29-2024 03:32 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  Oh yeah.... "THE TAIL WINDS OF OBUMMER" More like the rank-ass FART he let called the ACA Which is to this day still destroying the Healthcare industry.
It's not the amount of oil you dope. It's how you do it. When Doofus Biden came in, what was THE FIRST THING HE DID???? Killed the Keystone Pipeline, shut down new offshore drilling, and closed a shitton of public lands to drilling. What does that tell OPEC to do to their price per barrel? I'll help. It's called R A I S E.

FFS, the stupid Keystone myth AGAIN?

And wasn't trump going to replace the ACA with a big beautiful health care plan...or does that start in two weeks?

You're so lost on this issue, that no matter the explaining and facts I can provide you'll never understand it.

I'm out on it...not doing it again.

I don't need your third grade understanding of things, thanks.

Yeah, you do. You're just too ignorant to know it, apparently.

ANYONE who STILL brings up "killed the keystone pipeline" in reference to any issue with gas prices is ignorant and likely beyond help at this point.

It was the XL portion and that portion was already done for before Joe even took office.

The XL extension was left for dead by SCOTUS before Joe was elected and you actually think it had something to do with OPEC and then ridiculously state that somehow OPEC sets their own price per barrel? That's not even remotely how any of this works.

I'm not going to explain things any further when you start with such an ignorant statement.

You clearly don't know what you're talking about and should probably quit while you're behind. No need to further embarrass yourself.

I don't need your third grade understanding of things, thanks.

(07-30-2024 08:20 AM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  I don't need your third grade understanding of things, thanks.

Of course, you're still on second grade level. Don't want to confuse you any more.

(07-30-2024 08:09 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(07-29-2024 09:39 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  

(07-29-2024 03:36 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(07-29-2024 03:32 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  Oh yeah.... "THE TAIL WINDS OF OBUMMER" More like the rank-ass FART he let called the ACA Which is to this day still destroying the Healthcare industry.
It's not the amount of oil you dope. It's how you do it. When Doofus Biden came in, what was THE FIRST THING HE DID???? Killed the Keystone Pipeline, shut down new offshore drilling, and closed a shitton of public lands to drilling. What does that tell OPEC to do to their price per barrel? I'll help. It's called R A I S E.

FFS, the stupid Keystone myth AGAIN?

And wasn't trump going to replace the ACA with a big beautiful health care plan...or does that start in two weeks?

You're so lost on this issue, that no matter the explaining and facts I can provide you'll never understand it.

I'm out on it...not doing it again.

I don't need your third grade understanding of things, thanks.

Yeah, you do. You're just too ignorant to know it, apparently.

ANYONE who STILL brings up "killed the keystone pipeline" in reference to any issue with gas prices is ignorant and likely beyond help at this point.

It was the XL portion and that portion was already done for before Joe even took office.

The XL extension was left for dead by SCOTUS before Joe was elected and you actually think it had something to do with OPEC and then ridiculously state that somehow OPEC sets their own price per barrel? That's not even remotely how any of this works.

I'm not going to explain things any further when you start with such an ignorant statement.

You clearly don't know what you're talking about and should probably quit while you're behind. No need to further embarrass yourself.

In case any of you are unfamiliar, "Murphy Express" gas stations are Walmart.

(07-30-2024 12:48 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  

(07-30-2024 08:09 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(07-29-2024 09:39 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  

(07-29-2024 03:36 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(07-29-2024 03:32 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  Oh yeah.... "THE TAIL WINDS OF OBUMMER" More like the rank-ass FART he let called the ACA Which is to this day still destroying the Healthcare industry.
It's not the amount of oil you dope. It's how you do it. When Doofus Biden came in, what was THE FIRST THING HE DID???? Killed the Keystone Pipeline, shut down new offshore drilling, and closed a shitton of public lands to drilling. What does that tell OPEC to do to their price per barrel? I'll help. It's called R A I S E.

FFS, the stupid Keystone myth AGAIN?

And wasn't trump going to replace the ACA with a big beautiful health care plan...or does that start in two weeks?

You're so lost on this issue, that no matter the explaining and facts I can provide you'll never understand it.

I'm out on it...not doing it again.

I don't need your third grade understanding of things, thanks.

Yeah, you do. You're just too ignorant to know it, apparently.

ANYONE who STILL brings up "killed the keystone pipeline" in reference to any issue with gas prices is ignorant and likely beyond help at this point.

It was the XL portion and that portion was already done for before Joe even took office.

The XL extension was left for dead by SCOTUS before Joe was elected and you actually think it had something to do with OPEC and then ridiculously state that somehow OPEC sets their own price per barrel? That's not even remotely how any of this works.

I'm not going to explain things any further when you start with such an ignorant statement.

You clearly don't know what you're talking about and should probably quit while you're behind. No need to further embarrass yourself.

Just keep digging...further proving how ignorant you are on this subject.

Weird flex.. But ok. Hope you had a refreshing trip.

(07-30-2024 05:46 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  

(07-29-2024 11:47 PM)BlueDragon Wrote:  

(07-29-2024 10:37 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  

(07-29-2024 09:54 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  Trust me when I say this Tommie Bois, absolutely no one missed you. Hell I’d forgotten all about you.

Y'all should prove it by placing him on ignore. If everyone did no one would mistakenly read what he posts through quotes.

Well, anyone on here could replace him. Just read some Alinsky, Trotsky, watch endless hours of CNN and MSNBC political garbage shows and by all means get the latest version of Progressivism. You have to because the goal posts move almost daily.

Once you have indoctrinated yourself you no longer have to think for yourself.

You can post regurgitated propaganda to anyone who either A will listen because they want to hear actual reasons for these beliefs which will never come or B hope to spread the false religion you really worship.

A Guide to being a Tool for Democratic Socialist Party aka the The Oligarchy.

Btw, there is no actual Communist Party. Maybe in name only. But, true Communists are like snow leopards rarely seen.

It’s just an idea to make Dictatorships look good.

My friend, Marxism is alive and well in several countries in South America. Then there's Cuba. There's at least one in Europe and there's China. AND it's coming to a city or town near you in the not too distant future if something isn't done to rid us of them. They are growing increasingly bold and are no longer afraid
of the sunlight.

BLM was originally funded and taught how to organize activists by South American Marxist regimes. They have something like 20 chapters across the country now. And it all started as a hashtag on twitter.

500 marchers carrying Soviet era flags complete with the hammer and sickle. Posters are popping up in cities and towns across the country recruiting new Marxists.

Communism didn't just suddenly cease to exist with the toppling of the Berlin Wall and the dissolution of the Soviet Union. It moved here and became the Green party. Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.

But true Communism is just an idea. On the surface to get idiots to buy into it. It’s never put into practice. What you are describing are tenets of repression or propaganda.

True Communism will never be put into practice because humans are self centered

Communism/ Socialism is a pyramid scheme at best. Always has been.

That’s why anyone who can think for themselves are eliminated

(07-30-2024 01:49 PM)gdunn Wrote:  Weird flex.. But ok. Hope you had a refreshing trip.

Dude, c'mon. Even you know that OPEC doesn't set the price of a barrel of oil on the global market and that the Keytone Pipeline was not canceled by Biden, etc.

And yes, had a great trip! Thanks.

(07-30-2024 02:00 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(07-30-2024 01:49 PM)gdunn Wrote:  Weird flex.. But ok. Hope you had a refreshing trip.

Dude, c'mon. Even you know that OPEC doesn't set the price of a barrel of oil on the global market and that the Keytone Pipeline was not canceled by Biden, etc.

And yes, had a great trip! Thanks.

From CNBC.com.

From Sen. Steve Daines' website.

From BBC.com. (Story below.)

Quote:The Keystone XL pipeline's developer has halted all construction on the project months after its permit was revoked by the Biden administration.

The pipeline was set to carry oil 1,200 miles (1,900km) from the Canadian province of Alberta down to Nebraska.

Environmentalists and Native American groups had fought against the project for more than a decade.

President Donald Trump revived the pipeline in 2017, two years after it was rejected by President Barack Obama.

In a statement on Wednesday, Calgary-based TC Energy said it would work with regional regulators to dismantle their equipment and "ensure a safe termination of and exit from" areas where construction had been planned.

On his first day in office President Joe Biden cancelled a permit to allow the project to cross into the US amid concerns that it would worsen climate change.

Mr Biden's decision came over the objections of US lawmakers, including members of his own party, who said the project would have created energy sector and construction jobs for American workers.

On Wednesday, a group of Republican senators introduced legislation that would force the Biden administration to account for the number of jobs lost due to the project's cancellation.

"The Keystone XL pipeline would have strengthened US energy independence while supporting thousands of high-paying jobs in the US and Canada," Idaho Senator and bill sponsor Jim Risch said in a statement.

The group also condemned the Biden administration for waiving sanctions on the Nord Stream 2 project - a Russian pipeline intended to deliver gas to Germany.

The bill, which is not expected to become law, would require the Secretary of Labor to report to Congress the number of jobs estimated to have been lost due to the project's cancellation.

While visiting US troops stationed in the UK during a trip to the G7 conference on Wednesday, Mr Biden said that climate change represents the "greatest threat" to US national security.

"This is not a joke. You know what the Joint Chiefs told us the greatest physical threat facing America was? Global warming," he said.

"There will be significant population movements, fights over land, millions of people leaving places because they're literally sinking below the sea in Indonesia, because of the fights over what is arable land anymore," he added.

Biden's blocking of the necessary permit needed for the Keystone XL pipeline resulted in the cancellation of the expansion of said pipeline. If Biden hadn't done that, the pipeline would've continued to be expanded. Biden effectively cancelled the pipeline by blocking the permit because the owner of the pipeline had no chance but to terminate the project. So yes, Biden caused the project to be shut down and therefore deserves the blame.

(07-30-2024 02:14 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  

(07-30-2024 02:00 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(07-30-2024 01:49 PM)gdunn Wrote:  Weird flex.. But ok. Hope you had a refreshing trip.

Dude, c'mon. Even you know that OPEC doesn't set the price of a barrel of oil on the global market and that the Keytone Pipeline was not canceled by Biden, etc.

And yes, had a great trip! Thanks.

From CNBC.com.

From Sen. Steve Daines' website.

From BBC.com. (Story below.)

Quote:The Keystone XL pipeline's developer has halted all construction on the project months after its permit was revoked by the Biden administration.

The pipeline was set to carry oil 1,200 miles (1,900km) from the Canadian province of Alberta down to Nebraska.

Environmentalists and Native American groups had fought against the project for more than a decade.

President Donald Trump revived the pipeline in 2017, two years after it was rejected by President Barack Obama.

In a statement on Wednesday, Calgary-based TC Energy said it would work with regional regulators to dismantle their equipment and "ensure a safe termination of and exit from" areas where construction had been planned.

On his first day in office President Joe Biden cancelled a permit to allow the project to cross into the US amid concerns that it would worsen climate change.

Mr Biden's decision came over the objections of US lawmakers, including members of his own party, who said the project would have created energy sector and construction jobs for American workers.

On Wednesday, a group of Republican senators introduced legislation that would force the Biden administration to account for the number of jobs lost due to the project's cancellation.

"The Keystone XL pipeline would have strengthened US energy independence while supporting thousands of high-paying jobs in the US and Canada," Idaho Senator and bill sponsor Jim Risch said in a statement.

The group also condemned the Biden administration for waiving sanctions on the Nord Stream 2 project - a Russian pipeline intended to deliver gas to Germany.

The bill, which is not expected to become law, would require the Secretary of Labor to report to Congress the number of jobs estimated to have been lost due to the project's cancellation.

While visiting US troops stationed in the UK during a trip to the G7 conference on Wednesday, Mr Biden said that climate change represents the "greatest threat" to US national security.

"This is not a joke. You know what the Joint Chiefs told us the greatest physical threat facing America was? Global warming," he said.

"There will be significant population movements, fights over land, millions of people leaving places because they're literally sinking below the sea in Indonesia, because of the fights over what is arable land anymore," he added.

Biden's blocking of the necessary permit needed for the Keystone XL pipeline resulted in the cancellation of the expansion of said pipeline. If Biden hadn't done that, the pipeline would've continued to be expanded. Biden effectively cancelled the pipeline by blocking the permit because the owner of the pipeline had no chance but to terminate the project. So yes, Biden caused the project to be shut down and therefore deserves the blame.

Well, at least you correctly called it the XL this time and not the whole pipeline which still operates as I type.

And yeah, go for it, ridiculously blame Biden for it...still doesn't change the fact that it would have changed the price of a gallon of gas maybe a few pennies had it ever been completed. You do know that it was only like 10% complete and was years away from any completion, right? And the oil is already moving through other means currently...so that potential tiny change a few years ago would have been corrected by now.

(07-30-2024 02:00 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(07-30-2024 01:49 PM)gdunn Wrote:  Weird flex.. But ok. Hope you had a refreshing trip.

Dude, c'mon. Even you know that OPEC doesn't set the price of a barrel of oil on the global market and that the Keytone Pipeline was not canceled by Biden, etc.

And yes, had a great trip! Thanks.

I was saying about you making a thread about being back..

But I really don't have the time to re-explain O&G, how it's traded, and how negotiations work today.

(07-30-2024 02:00 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Dude, c'mon. Even you know that OPEC doesn't set the price of a barrel of oil on the global market and that the Keytone Pipeline was not canceled by Biden, etc.

Could you kindly provide us with a brief summary of your experience in the oilpatch?

(07-30-2024 02:54 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(07-30-2024 02:14 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  

(07-30-2024 02:00 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(07-30-2024 01:49 PM)gdunn Wrote:  Weird flex.. But ok. Hope you had a refreshing trip.

Dude, c'mon. Even you know that OPEC doesn't set the price of a barrel of oil on the global market and that the Keytone Pipeline was not canceled by Biden, etc.

And yes, had a great trip! Thanks.

From CNBC.com.

From Sen. Steve Daines' website.

From BBC.com. (Story below.)

Quote:The Keystone XL pipeline's developer has halted all construction on the project months after its permit was revoked by the Biden administration.

The pipeline was set to carry oil 1,200 miles (1,900km) from the Canadian province of Alberta down to Nebraska.

Environmentalists and Native American groups had fought against the project for more than a decade.

President Donald Trump revived the pipeline in 2017, two years after it was rejected by President Barack Obama.

In a statement on Wednesday, Calgary-based TC Energy said it would work with regional regulators to dismantle their equipment and "ensure a safe termination of and exit from" areas where construction had been planned.

On his first day in office President Joe Biden cancelled a permit to allow the project to cross into the US amid concerns that it would worsen climate change.

Mr Biden's decision came over the objections of US lawmakers, including members of his own party, who said the project would have created energy sector and construction jobs for American workers.

On Wednesday, a group of Republican senators introduced legislation that would force the Biden administration to account for the number of jobs lost due to the project's cancellation.

"The Keystone XL pipeline would have strengthened US energy independence while supporting thousands of high-paying jobs in the US and Canada," Idaho Senator and bill sponsor Jim Risch said in a statement.

The group also condemned the Biden administration for waiving sanctions on the Nord Stream 2 project - a Russian pipeline intended to deliver gas to Germany.

The bill, which is not expected to become law, would require the Secretary of Labor to report to Congress the number of jobs estimated to have been lost due to the project's cancellation.

While visiting US troops stationed in the UK during a trip to the G7 conference on Wednesday, Mr Biden said that climate change represents the "greatest threat" to US national security.

"This is not a joke. You know what the Joint Chiefs told us the greatest physical threat facing America was? Global warming," he said.

"There will be significant population movements, fights over land, millions of people leaving places because they're literally sinking below the sea in Indonesia, because of the fights over what is arable land anymore," he added.

Biden's blocking of the necessary permit needed for the Keystone XL pipeline resulted in the cancellation of the expansion of said pipeline. If Biden hadn't done that, the pipeline would've continued to be expanded. Biden effectively cancelled the pipeline by blocking the permit because the owner of the pipeline had no chance but to terminate the project. So yes, Biden caused the project to be shut down and therefore deserves the blame.

Well, at least you correctly called it the XL this time and not the whole pipeline which still operates as I type.

And yeah, go for it, ridiculously blame Biden for it...still doesn't change the fact that it would have changed the price of a gallon of gas maybe a few pennies had it ever been completed. You do know that it was only like 10% complete and was years away from any completion, right? And the oil is already moving through other means currently...so that potential tiny change a few years ago would have been corrected by now.

The level of back peddling you just displayed is worthy of a Riverdance performer.

I'm sorry, Tom, but I don't buy that it would've been a minuscule price change, and here's why. National security, energy policy, and foreign policy are inextricably linked because of our reliance on fossil fuels. Where do we get those fossil fuels? It should be from here or at least from other parts of the North Ameican continent. We certainly get coal from here. Oil should come from here, too. Any disturbance overseas or policy change by OPEC can and has affected prices around the world, over here being no exception. Plus, most of our oil comes from countries that either don't like us very much or flat out hate us. Case in point, my aunt Lora's husband Chris worked for one of the major companies here in the Houston area, and they transferred him to their Qatar office in Doha. Now you know Qatar isn't very friendly to us either. He told me a long time ago that anything that happens overseas, especially in oil-rich, oil-producing countries, affects the price of gas a lot more than people let on. And since he actually worked in that industry for several years, I'll take his word over yours, with all due respect.

Now say what you will about "going green" or whatever, but most of the world still runs on fossil fuels for the time being. We need to either be completely reliant on our own oil reserves here or at least import oil from countries that more friendly to us, like Canada, our neighbor to the north. The completion of Keystone XL would helped us with that. Due to Biden's blockage, the project was terminated. His decision led to the termination. So yes, it's his fault. And as I've said in other threads, I'm all in favor of looking for a viable alternate energy source. But it shouldn't be the feds deciding that that should be. That process belongs to the free market.

(07-30-2024 03:29 PM)gdunn Wrote:  

(07-30-2024 02:00 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(07-30-2024 01:49 PM)gdunn Wrote:  Weird flex.. But ok. Hope you had a refreshing trip.

Dude, c'mon. Even you know that OPEC doesn't set the price of a barrel of oil on the global market and that the Keytone Pipeline was not canceled by Biden, etc.

And yes, had a great trip! Thanks.

I was saying about you making a thread about being back..

It was hardly a "flex." It was just a mild attempt at humor due to all that went down while I was gone.

What went down while you were gone? Wife ran off with her boyfriend?

(07-30-2024 05:25 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  I'm sorry, Tom, but I don't buy that it would've been a minuscule price change, and here's why. National security, energy policy, and foreign policy are inextricably linked because of our reliance on fossil fuels. Where do we get those fossil fuels? It should be from here or at least from other parts of the North Ameican continent. We certainly get coal from here. Oil should come from here, too. Any disturbance overseas or policy change by OPEC can and has affected prices around the world, over here being no exception. Plus, most of our oil comes from countries that either don't like us very much or flat out hate us. Case in point, my aunt Lora's husband Chris worked for one of the major companies here in the Houston area, and they transferred him to their Qatar office in Doha. Now you know Qatar isn't very friendly to us either. He told me a long time ago that anything that happens overseas, especially in oil-rich, oil-producing countries, affects the price of gas a lot more than people let on. And since he actually worked in that industry for several years, I'll take his word over yours, with all due respect.

Now say what you will about "going green" or whatever, but most of the world still runs on fossil fuels for the time being. We need to either be completely reliant on our own oil reserves here or at least import oil from countries that more friendly to us, like Canada, our neighbor to the north. The completion of Keystone XL would helped us with that. Due to Biden's blockage, the project was terminated. His decision led to the termination. So yes, it's his fault. And as I've said in other threads, I'm all in favor of looking for a viable alternate energy source. But it shouldn't be the feds deciding that that should be. That process belongs to the free market.

Dude, if I wasn't clear, I don't really doubt much of anything in the bolded...so no need to take anyone's word over another.

But maybe you're not aware, but oil is not the same everywhere. We will always need to import some level of oil from other countries. Further, we only have so much refining capacity. And we're currently at or near that capacity...and are currently producing more oil than any other country in history...we can't do much more. So yeah, if OPEC doesn't increase production and global demand keeps increasing as predicted, oil isn't going to get much cheaper in our current situation.

And perhaps you aren't aware, I am a proponent of building new refineries in the US. They're way more efficient, new ones, for the environment and can add to our capacity. I am also a proponent of more nuclear energy.

But yes, the price change would have been minimal. You can actually go look at prices before and after Biden "killed" the already dormant XL pipeline extension. Prices are set by global supply, demand, and factors such as wars and weather. The amount of oil that would have made it to market from that XL...which again is currently all making it to market...was simply not enough to have a major change.

Again, Tom, could you kindly provide us with a brief summary of your careeer experience in the oilpatch?