The same people who claimed Trump was trying to stage a coup are staging a coup against the primary Democrat presidential nominee Joe Biden.

Quote:Democrat donors have told Future Forward, a Biden super PAC, that roughly $90 million in pledged donations will be frozen if President Biden stays on top of the ticket. This comes after the incumbent president has faced mounting pressure from Democrats to step aside in the 2024 presidential race.

According to a report from the New York Times, the frozen $90 million dollars includes multiple eight-figure pledges to the Biden campaign.

Future Forward declined a request for comment from the Times on the discussion that the super PAC was having with donors and the amount of cash that was being held from the campaign. A donor to the PAC has said he and his friends had been “holding off" on donating to the PAC since Biden's dismal debate performance in June.

The potential shortfall in funds going to the pro-Biden super PAC comes as the campaign is getting ready for a rough fundraising season as the incumbent president’s polls numbers have dropped on average since the debate, per 538 polling averages. Biden is also facing increasing pressure from Democrats to drop out of the race. As of Friday morning, 17 Democratic lawmakers had publicly called for Biden to drop out of the general election.

The super PAC has been cautious about making any strategic moves until after there is more clarity about who will be at the top of the ticket in November, according to a person familiar with the matter who spoke to the outlet. Future Forward was Biden's leading super PAC in the beginning of the 2024 race and has already moved to spend $250 million on TV and digital ads starting after the DNC.

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17 Dem reps and senators call for Biden to exit race

Quote:Two more Democrat lawmakers have called for Joe Biden to step down in light of mounting pressure for him to not be the nominee in the upcoming 2024 election. This comes after his dismal debate performance against presumptive GOP nominee Donald Trump. The two Democrats bring the total to 17 lawmakers in the Senate and the House who have publicly called for Biden to step aside.

Reps. Greg Stanton (D-AZ) and Ed Case (D-HI) called for Biden to step aside for someone else to run against Trump for the presidential race, per Politico. “For the sake of American democracy, and to continue to make progress on our shared priorities, I believe it is time for the President to step aside as our nominee," Stanton said in a statement.

Case also stated, “I do not believe President Biden should continue his candidacy for re-election as President." With two more being added to the list of Democratic lawmakers, 17 have now publicly asked for the incumbent president to step aside in hopes of someone else to take the reins.

The list of the 17 lawmakers who have now asked for Biden to step aside includes Reps. Lloyd Doggett (D-TX), Raúl Grijalva (D-AZ), Seth Moulton (D-MA), Mike Quigley (D-IL), Angie Craig (D-MN), Adam Smith (D-WA), Mikie Sherrill (D-NJ), Pat Ryan (D-NY), Earl Blumenauer (D-OR), Hillary Scholten (MI), Brad Schneider (D-IL), Greg Stanton (D-AZ), Ed Case (HI), Jim Himes (D-CT), Scott Peters (D-CA), Marie Gluesenkamp Perez (D-WA), and the single Senator who has made the call Sen. Peter Welch (D-VT), per the New York Times as of Friday morning, after Biden's "big boy" presser.

On Thursday, Biden staffers met with Democrat lawmakers in a closed-door meeting in an attempt to calm the nerves and tamp out fires in the party regarding Biden's fitness for office. The meeting failed to change the mind of Welch, the lone Senator who has thus far come out publicly in opposition to a second Biden run. "I have great respect for their team. It doesn't change my point of view," Welch told reporters.

A number of Senators were not reassured after the meeting with the Biden staff, “He's got to demonstrate that the debate was just a bad night. … There’s a clock running," Sen. John Hickenlooper (D-CO) said of Biden.

“It was very clear that we were asked not to say anything," Sen. Cory Booker said of the meeting. Moderate Senator Joe Manchin (I-WV) who recently registered as a independent after leaving the Democrat Party, said he would be meeting with Biden over the weekend and added that Biden aides gave no indication that the incumbent president plans to drop out.

New York Times claims replacing Biden is 'right-wing conspiracy theory'

Quote:The New York Times headlined "How Biden’s Stumbles Collided With a Right-Wing Conspiracy Theory" on Friday, as reports have come out about many Democrats seeking to remove the incumbent president from the ticket. The Times labeled pre-debate commentary suggesting Biden would not be the nominee as a "far-right" conspiracy that Democrats have been planning to replace Biden.

The Times article was published on Friday morning, around the same time as an Axios article which reported, "Behind the Curtain: Committee to Unelect the President." As these reports have come out, the Biden campaign is also quietly pitting Vice President Kamala Harris against Trump in voter surveys, according to another report from the Times from Thursday.

The seeming contrast between the Axios and Times article was pointed out by Fox News reporter Joseph Wulfsohn online. "The NYT *this morning* accused the right of pushing a 'conspiracy theory' that Dems are secretly plotting to replace Biden at the top of the ticket… Meanwhile, Axios is reporting *this morning* how Dems are secretly plotting to replace Biden at the top of the ticket. Unreal," he wrote.

The Times took aim at former presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy, who said in a podcast interview after Biden's debate with Trump, “It was their final opportunity to toss the old man to one side, as I’ve been saying for the entire last year and a half... What they described as a conspiracy theory last year has become a reality today." The outlet's editorial board itself called for Biden to step out of the race and multiple Times opinion writers are mentioned in the Axios report as being part of the campaign to replace Biden before the election.

At the same time the article about the the claimed "right-wing conspiracy theory," came out, Axios reported that "very-connected Democrats, mostly veterans of the Obama and Clinton administrations, are plotting hourly to get him to withdraw quickly." The outlet reported that the group of Democrats are speaking to pollsters, lobbying former presidents, as well as talking to donors in an attempt to remove Biden from the 2024 race against Trump.

The Times added in its report, "Far-right social media is rife with outlandish, unproven stories of Democratic crimes and rigged elections. Most of those ideas fizzle over time as they fail to come true. But every now and then, one of those stories collides with reality."

Quote:If Joe Biden can survive the next 48 hours of "coordinated rebellion" from Democrat leaders, it's over.

Media and the Democrat power brokers will settle back behind Joe Biden and pivot to a coordinated rebuilding effort to restore his campaign.

Joe Biden's "comeback" narratives are already being spun and, yes, they will be nauseating to watch. The race will tighten. Count on it.

Ruh-Roh

Now that the money is drying up, you will see a lot more scrambling. This could be all wrapped up by Monday.

IMO if true, then this is a final screaming, hissy fit to push Joe out. His detractors are running out of time and they know it. There isn't enough consensus yet and he's unwilling to step aside "voluntarily." If he gets past the next week I don't see any change on the ticket.

(07-12-2024 01:06 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  

He has no idea who Anybody is, at this point.

I'm surprised Veronica Escobar is still sticking to her guns on keeping Ol' Foggy. One reason I suspect is that she's not too bright.

There is no Dem nominee until after the convention, and there are no rules or laws that force the Dem party to honor any of these "votes" for Biden in the primary. They can nominate whoever they want in a backroom if they so choose. They'd have to deal with whatever political fallout came from that, but my guess is at this point the fallout of having proven beyond all doubt Senile Biden who's going to be dogged by this everyday going forward is worse than the fallout of dumping him.

Unless you guarantee the Biden* crime family money and pardons, it aint happening.

If you do grant the Biden* crime family pardons and money, and you lose the election, the Trump 47 DOJ is going to throw you in the federal pound me in the ass prison for that deal.

(07-12-2024 01:48 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  Unless you guarantee the Biden* crime family money and pardons, it aint happening.

If you do grant the Biden* crime family pardons and money, and you lose the election, the Trump 47 DOJ is going to throw you in the federal pound me in the ass prison for that deal.

You don't have to guarantee them crap. If the actual Dem elites decide they want him dumped they can just do it regardless of what he wants. It's cute you think there are some sort of rules that have to be abided by in the Dem party primary, but there really aren't.

https://observer.com/2017/08/court-admit...t-sanders/

The Court continued, “For their part, the DNC and Wasserman Schultz have characterized the DNC charter’s promise of ‘impartiality and evenhandedness’ as a mere political promise—political rhetoric that is not enforceable in federal courts. The Court does not accept this trivialization of the DNC’s governing principles. While it may be true in the abstract that the DNC has the right to have its delegates ‘go into back rooms like they used to and smoke cigars and pick the candidate that way,’ the DNC, through its charter, has committed itself to a higher principle.”

DNC attorney's literally argued any illusion of fairness and rules are just political promises and nothing more, and while the judge didn't like the way that sounded he basically ruled that's correct they can do whatever the hell they want. This ain't the RNC, where if you had "elites" try to take a stand against Trump you'd have a literal revolt. There ain't no people that ride for Slow Biden like that. If Obama comes out and says Joe is done Joe is done whether he wants to be or not those delegates will listen to Obama and Pelosi not the demented old fool.

Whooole lot of pledged Delegates and so called “Super Delegates” will need to go along with any switcheroo if Sloe* doesn’t go voluntarily.

This is hysterical coming from the fake party of sAVinG MuH deMoCRaCy!

Liars, frauds and hypocrites.

Shocking

(07-12-2024 01:59 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(07-12-2024 01:48 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  Unless you guarantee the Biden* crime family money and pardons, it aint happening.

If you do grant the Biden* crime family pardons and money, and you lose the election, the Trump 47 DOJ is going to throw you in the federal pound me in the ass prison for that deal.

You don't have to guarantee them crap. If the actual Dem elites decide they want him dumped they can just do it regardless of what he wants. It's cute you think there are some sort of rules that have to be abided by in the Dem party primary, but there really aren't.

https://observer.com/2017/08/court-admit...t-sanders/

The Court continued, “For their part, the DNC and Wasserman Schultz have characterized the DNC charter’s promise of ‘impartiality and evenhandedness’ as a mere political promise—political rhetoric that is not enforceable in federal courts. The Court does not accept this trivialization of the DNC’s governing principles. While it may be true in the abstract that the DNC has the right to have its delegates ‘go into back rooms like they used to and smoke cigars and pick the candidate that way,’ the DNC, through its charter, has committed itself to a higher principle.”

DNC attorney's literally argued any illusion of fairness and rules are just political promises and nothing more, and while the judge didn't like the way that sounded he basically ruled that's correct they can do whatever the hell they want. This ain't the RNC, where if you had "elites" try to take a stand against Trump you'd have a literal revolt. There ain't no people that ride for Slow Biden like that. If Obama comes out and says Joe is done Joe is done whether he wants to be or not those delegates will listen to Obama and Pelosi not the demented old fool.

Not sure where you are going with this. However, if you are saying the rules can be changed, then yes, they can.

But there will be a nuclear fallout from doing that.

As it stands now, there is an open first ballot where the pledged delegates are the only ones to vote. The DNC wants to change the rules to make the first vote private so they can manipulate the electors without anyone knowing who was manipulated. Otherwise known as saving democracy.

(07-12-2024 02:01 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  Whooole lot of pledged Delegates and so called “Super Delegates” will need to go along with any switcheroo if Sloe* doesn’t go voluntarily.

This is hysterical coming from the fake party of sAVinG MuH deMoCRaCy!

Liars, frauds and hypocrites.

Shocking

They've been that the whole damn time, so what? If Obama tells them to vote 1 way and Sloe stutters and stammers and then says vote for me and Vice President Trump they'll do whatever the hell Obama says to do and not even give a second thought about it. And considering a super majority of Dems want someone other than Sloe to be the candidate no one will riot.

Just a reminder to the left that if they had cooperated with the republicans impeachment inquiry, Biden* could have been removed by now.

If only your side had been country over party, you wouldnt be dealing with this now.

(07-12-2024 02:03 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(07-12-2024 01:59 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(07-12-2024 01:48 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  Unless you guarantee the Biden* crime family money and pardons, it aint happening.

If you do grant the Biden* crime family pardons and money, and you lose the election, the Trump 47 DOJ is going to throw you in the federal pound me in the ass prison for that deal.

You don't have to guarantee them crap. If the actual Dem elites decide they want him dumped they can just do it regardless of what he wants. It's cute you think there are some sort of rules that have to be abided by in the Dem party primary, but there really aren't.

https://observer.com/2017/08/court-admit...t-sanders/

The Court continued, “For their part, the DNC and Wasserman Schultz have characterized the DNC charter’s promise of ‘impartiality and evenhandedness’ as a mere political promise—political rhetoric that is not enforceable in federal courts. The Court does not accept this trivialization of the DNC’s governing principles. While it may be true in the abstract that the DNC has the right to have its delegates ‘go into back rooms like they used to and smoke cigars and pick the candidate that way,’ the DNC, through its charter, has committed itself to a higher principle.”

DNC attorney's literally argued any illusion of fairness and rules are just political promises and nothing more, and while the judge didn't like the way that sounded he basically ruled that's correct they can do whatever the hell they want. This ain't the RNC, where if you had "elites" try to take a stand against Trump you'd have a literal revolt. There ain't no people that ride for Slow Biden like that. If Obama comes out and says Joe is done Joe is done whether he wants to be or not those delegates will listen to Obama and Pelosi not the demented old fool.

Not sure where you are going with this. However, if you are saying the rules can be changed, then yes, they can.

But there will be a nuclear fallout from doing that.

As it stands now, there is an open first ballot where the pledged delegates are the only ones to vote. The DNC wants to change the rules to make the first vote private so they can manipulate the electors without anyone knowing who was manipulated. Otherwise known as saving democracy.

No there wouldn't, not if Obama came out and publicly made a statement why Biden had to go for the good of the country and Pelosi threatened every single elected Dem behind the scenes that they'd never get any big donor money again if they caused a stink (and she's done stuff like that before). That would be all it would take to make that go by just fine in Dem circles, and really Pelosi wouldn't even have to make the threats because if Obama said it 95% of Dems would fall right in line no questions asked.

(07-12-2024 01:48 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  There is no Dem nominee until after the convention, and there are no rules or laws that force the Dem party to honor any of these "votes" for Biden in the primary. They can nominate whoever they want in a backroom if they so choose. They'd have to deal with whatever political fallout came from that, but my guess is at this point the fallout of having proven beyond all doubt Senile Biden who's going to be dogged by this everyday going forward is worse than the fallout of dumping him.

That's not correct. The plan, before the bad debate, was to virtually nominate Joe by the middle of this month. Some states have cutoff dates where a party must name their nominee prior to when the DNC falls this time. Ohio is one of them.

(07-12-2024 02:12 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  Just a reminder to the left that if they had cooperated with the republicans impeachment inquiry, Biden* could have been removed by now.

If only your side had been country over party, you wouldnt be dealing with this now.

They could be not "dealing" with this right now if they allowed a fair primary to be held in the first place, not threatening potential candidates to keep them from running and having primary debates.

(07-12-2024 02:12 PM)GeorgeBorkFan Wrote:  

(07-12-2024 01:48 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  There is no Dem nominee until after the convention, and there are no rules or laws that force the Dem party to honor any of these "votes" for Biden in the primary. They can nominate whoever they want in a backroom if they so choose. They'd have to deal with whatever political fallout came from that, but my guess is at this point the fallout of having proven beyond all doubt Senile Biden who's going to be dogged by this everyday going forward is worse than the fallout of dumping him.

That's not correct. The plan, before the bad debate, was to virtually nominate Joe by the middle of this month. Some states have cutoff dates where a party must name their nominee prior to when the DNC falls this time. Ohio is one of them.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-el...rcna154752

Ohio signed legislation to change that rule. Not a problem anymore. Also if they had done the "virtual nomination" that's still the point they'd be allowed to enter at that point the virtual smoke filled room and then nominate whoever they hell they want. There is no candidate for the Dem Party right now, Biden is the presumptive nominee and that's it.

Donors - We're going to freeze $90 million in pledges to you.

Biden - Up yours.

Donors - No more ice cream.

Biden - I GIVE!!!! I'LL QUIT TODAY !!!

(07-12-2024 02:18 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(07-12-2024 02:12 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  Just a reminder to the left that if they had cooperated with the republicans impeachment inquiry, Biden* could have been removed by now.

If only your side had been country over party, you wouldnt be dealing with this now.

They could be not "dealing" with this right now if they allowed a fair primary to be held in the first place, not threatening potential candidates to keep them from running and having primary debates.

They're Communists. What else did you expect? And yes, each state has its own requirements for being on the Ballot. Biden is the guy.

Democrats Calling For Biden To Drop Out Refuse To Say He Should Step Down As President

Quote:Acacophony of voices on the left has called for President Joe Biden to step down as the nominee after a frightening debate performance put his cognitive decline on full display. Because of this, Democrats contend, Biden is unfit to be the nominee. When asked by The Federalist whether that also means Biden is unfit to be president for the next six months, 17 lawmakers failed to answer the question and one pointed to his previous comments denying that Biden should resign as president.

It seems that if Biden is incapable of running in November due to his cognitive decline, he might be incapable of running the country for the next six months. It’s hard to argue that a man not cognitively qualified to be the nominee is somehow qualified to be the president, but that’s apparently the stance some Democrats are taking.

The following Democrat lawmakers did not respond to repeated inquiries from The Federalist as to whether Biden should step down as the president after they called on him to step down as the nominee.

Texas Rep. Lloyd Doggett became the first Democrat lawmaker to call for Biden to step down as the nominee.

“Recognizing that, unlike Trump, President Biden’s first commitment has always been to our country, not himself, I am hopeful that he will make the painful and difficult decision to withdraw,” Doggett said. “I respectfully call on him to do so.”

Minnesota Rep. Angie Craig said she doesn’t believe Biden “can effectively campaign and win against Donald Trump.” New Jersey Democrat Rep. Mikie Sherrill said in a statement Biden needs to step down as the nominee to put “the best interests of democracy first.” Illinois Rep. Mike Quigley said on MSNBC that Biden’s “legacy is set” and that Biden must “step down and let someone else do this.”

Massachusetts Rep. Seth Moulton called the debate performance a “disaster” and said he had “really tried to quietly influence the president to step aside” before publicly calling for a new nominee. Arizona Rep. Raúl Grijalva told The New York Times Democrats “have to win this race” and that Biden needs to “get out of this race.”

New York Rep. Pat Ryan said Biden needs to step down because he “is no longer the best candidate to defeat Trump.” Oregon Rep. Earl Blumenauer said “there is no question in my mind that we will all be better served if the president steps aside as the Democratic nominee and manages a transition under his terms.” Vermont Sen. Peter Welch, in calling for Biden to step down, said “the national conversation is focused on President Biden’s age and capacity. Only he can change it.”

Michigan Rep. Hillary Scholten said Thursday that Biden has to “pass the torch” to a new leader. I inquired with her Washington D.C., congressional office as to the best point of contact and was directed to the press team for her reelection campaign. I insisted this was a question for her congressional communications director and asked for a person to contact but was assured the press email for her campaign would be best. The man I spoke with on the phone, before I hung up, requested I provide my name, phone number, email, and publication.

My email inquiry went unanswered.

Illinois Rep. Brad Schneider, Arizona Rep. Greg Stanton, Connecticut Rep. Jim Himes, California Rep. Scott Peters, and Illinois Rep. Eric Sorensen also called for Biden to step down but did not respond to The Federalist by publication time.

The office of Hawaii Rep. Ed Case, who said Thursday that he does “not believe President Biden should continue his candidacy for reelection,” told The Federalist they would “forward this inquiry to the Congressman’s campaign team as this is a political question.”

“House rules require me to redirect your inquiry there,” his communications director Nestor Garcia claimed.

On Friday, Colorado Rep. Brittany Pettersen released a statement urging Biden to “pass the torch.” Reached by phone, her office directed me to send an email, which did not immediately receive a response.

Only Washington Rep. Adam Smith’s team gave a substantive answer to The Federalist’s question: If Smith believes Biden should step down as the nominee, does he also think Biden should step down as president and if not, why?

I was directed to recent interviews Smith has done, including one on CNN where he repeated Democrat talking points but said Biden “has shown he is not capable of delivering that message in an effective way.”

Smith acknowledged “health care concerns” during the interview before reiterating that Biden is “just not able to deliver [Democrats’ message] right now.”

Smith believes that Biden, who often slurs, mumbles, forgets the names of world leaders, and loses his train of thought, is incapable of representing the Democrats’ message to voters. But what about representing America to the world?

CNN’s Jake Tapper also asked Smith whether he thinks Biden should step down from the presidency, and Smith resolutely rejected the notion.

“No, no, no, no,” he said, although he reiterated his belief that Vice President Kamala Harris would be a better nominee.

In a separate interview with the Seattle Times, Smith said he notices Biden’s health is failing, describing the president as “frail” and struggling to communicate.

The responses — or lack thereof — prove one thing: Democrats, for all their screaming about “saving our democracy,” don’t actually care about the fate of the nation, they only care about power. It’s why they silenced concerns about Biden’s health until about 10 minutes ago. Up until the debate, Democrats thought it would be easier to simply keep the American people in the dark about Biden’s health by hiding the president and coordinating a campaign with their media allies to smear any evidence of Biden’s decline as “cheap fakes.”

Democrats insist too much is at stake for Biden to remain the nominee. Evidently, they don’t share the same concern for the risks our country suffers every day Biden remains as president.