(07-11-2024 02:29 PM)fsquid Wrote:  

(07-09-2024 06:06 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

break up the web search monopoly instead.

Dirty Tom & The Boyz have no interest in breaking it up, as it is benefits their team. Bigly.

(07-11-2024 02:29 PM)fsquid Wrote:  

(07-09-2024 06:06 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

break up the web search monopoly instead.

If you can't find info on P2025 on duck duck or your chosen browser, I have to question the worth of your chosen browser.

(07-11-2024 02:30 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  

(07-11-2024 02:29 PM)fsquid Wrote:  

(07-09-2024 06:06 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

break up the web search monopoly instead.

Dirty Tom & The Boyz have no interest in breaking it up, as it is benefits their team. Bigly.

You're still the king of the logical fallacy. Bigly.

Quote:MYTHS VS. FACTS ABOUT PROJECT 2025

We are not affiliated with former President Trump. We are a coalition of more than 110 conservative groups advocating policy and personnel recommendations.

1. End no fault divorce: FALSE

Divorce is not mentioned in our policy handbook, Mandate for Leadership.

2. Complete ban on abortions without exceptions: FALSE

Mandate for Leadership calls for the government to comply with laws that prevent federal funding of abortion. It also calls for federal support for alternatives to abortion, including adoption.

3. Ban contraceptives: FALSE

Mandate for Leadership says nothing about banning or restricting contraception.

4. Additional tax breaks for corporations and the 1%: MISLEADING

Mandate for Leadership calls for LOWER taxes for ALL Americans, to stimulate economic growth and put more money in Americans’ pockets.

5. Higher taxes for the working class: FALSE

Mandate for Leadership calls for LOWER taxes for ALL Americans. Individuals spend their money in more productive ways than the government does.

6. Elimination of unions and worker protections: FALSE

Mandate for Leadership presents different ideas about a conservative labor policy. It calls for combatting the excesses of the Deep State’s bloated federal employee unions, which have ensured that federal employees keep their jobs even if they engage in illegal behavior or perform their jobs poorly.

7. Raise the retirement age: FALSE

Raising the retirement age is nowhere advocated in Mandate for Leadership.

8. Cut Social Security: FALSE

Mandate for Leadership does not advocate cutting Social Security.

9. End Affordable Care Act: FALSE

Mandate for Leadership offers policy suggestions to curb the abuses of the Affordable Care Act.

10. Raise prescription drug prices: FALSE

Mandate for Leadership offers proposals to lower drug prices through competition and innovation.

11. Eliminate the Department of Education: TRUE

Mandate for Leadership calls for an end to the Department of Education. Since the Department was created, educational outcomes have not improved, and the American school system has increasingly fallen behind other countries. Giving more control back to state and local governments and expanding school choice would improve education outcomes for all Americans, especially underprivileged communities. Some functions of the Department would be moved to other departments including Labor, Justice, and Commerce.

12. Use public, taxpayer money for private religious schools: TRUE

Americans are able to use taxpayer money to choose where they shop for groceries, attain housing, and obtain higher education. Religious schools often outperform public schools, and families should have the choice to send their children to these schools.

13. Teach Christian religious beliefs in public schools: FALSE

Mandate for Leadership advocates for all educational opportunities, and for parental rights in education.

14. End free and discounted school lunch programs: FALSE

Mandate for Leadership advocates that the Food and Nutrition Service be moved from the Department of Agriculture to the Department of Health and Human Services. Mandate condemns the Biden administration’s decision to threaten schools that do not comply with radical transgender policies by taking away their funding for school meals for needy students. Additionally, Mandate supports prioritizing school meal programs for those students who are truly needy, not creating an entitlement for almost all students regardless of family income levels.

15. End civil rights and DEI protections in government: MOSTLY FALSE

Mandate for Leadership calls for respecting the civil rights of all Americans, including those who have been censored by the government or had it weaponized against them. Mandate advocates for the end of divisive, race-based, anti-American propaganda in the federal workforce.

16. Ban African American and gender studies in all levels of education: FALSE

Mandate for Leadership does not mention African American studies or gender studies.

17. Ban books and curriculum about slavery: FALSE

Mandate for Leadership does not advocate for banning books or curriculum about slavery.

18. Ending climate protections: FALSE

Mandate for Leadership advocates policies that will produce economic growth through abundant, affordable energy. Famers, hunters, and fishers know how to protect our environment better than D.C. bureaucrats. The Biden administration’s relentless focus on climate has made America less competitive and wasted crucial taxpayer dollars.

19. Increase Arctic drilling: TRUE

The Arctic is of immense strategic importance to America. Mandate for Leadership advocates a strong pursuit of American interests in the region, through economic freedom, through ensuring free and open shipping lanes, and through the development of the vast energy resources of the Arctic.

20. Deregulate big business and the oil industry: MOSTLY TRUE

America needs energy that is plentiful and affordable. Mandate for Leadership calls for an all-of-the-above energy policy that would promote the development of our domestic energy supply, and for fewer burdensome regulations for ALL businesses.

21. Promote and expedite capital punishment: TRUE

The appropriateness of capital punishment divides Americans, and conservatives, of good will. Mandate for Leadership calls for the enforcement of the federal death penalty where appropriate and applicable, and recommends a future presidential administration pursue the death penalty for the most heinous crimes, including those involving violence and the sexual abuse of children, unless Congress says otherwise through legislation.

22. End marriage equality: FALSE

The legal recognition of same-sex marriage is not discussed in Mandate for Leadership. Mandate calls for the protection of faith-based grant recipients who maintain support for the traditional definition of marriage. Mandate also supports conscience protections for those who do not wish to participate in same-sex marriages.

23. Condemn single mothers while promoting only “traditional families”: FALSE

Mandate suggests that a future HHS Secretary replace the policies of the Biden administration that prioritize LGBTQ+ equality, subsidize single motherhood, disincentivize work, and penalize marriage with policies that instead encourage marriage, work, motherhood, fatherhood, and nuclear families.

24. Defund the FBI and Homeland Security: FALSE

Mandate for Leadership supports de-weaponizing the federal government, including the FBI. Mandate’s chapter on the Department of Homeland Security advocates the legislative creation of a standalone Cabinet-level agency with a focus on the border and immigration, including U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CPB), Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS), the Office of Refugee Resettlement (ORR), the Executive Office of Immigration Review (EOIR), and the Office of Immigration Litigation (OIL). It also recommends that legislation be pursued to move other component parts of DHS to other agencies, including the Department of Transportation, the Department of Defense, the Department of the Treasury, and the FBI.

25. Use military to break up domestic protests: FALSE

The “protests” referenced in Mandate for Leadership are protests in Iran against its anti-American leadership; and protests of parents at school board meetings in opposition to critical race theory and COVID mandates. Both protests are referenced positively. Mandate also protests the FBI’s harassment of protesting parents and condemns the arrest by armed FBI agents of a man who had protested at an abortion clinic a year earlier.

26. Mass deportation of immigrants and incarceration in “camps”: MISLEADING

Mandate supports an orderly and lawful immigration system. It advocates that the Immigration and Customs Enforcement’s Office of Removal Operations be primarily responsible for enforcing civil immigration regulations, including the removal of those who have violated our immigration laws. It also calls for additional resources to put an end to President Biden’s border crisis and enforce immigration laws.

27. End birthright citizenship: FALSE

There is no mention of ending birthright citizenship in Mandate for Leadership.

28. Ban Muslims from entering the country: FALSE

There is no mention of banning Muslims from entering the United States in Mandate for Leadership.

29. Eliminate federal agencies like the FDA, EPA, NOAA and more: FALSE

Mandate for Leadership’s plan would not eliminate the FDA or the EPA, and NOAA’s functions would be transferred to other agencies, the private sector, and states and territories.

30. Continue to pack the Supreme Court and lower courts with right-wing judges: FALSE

The only people calling for packing the judiciary are those on the Left, who do it every time the Supreme Court or a lower court makes decisions they don’t like.

(07-11-2024 02:31 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(07-11-2024 02:30 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  

(07-11-2024 02:29 PM)fsquid Wrote:  

(07-09-2024 06:06 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

break up the web search monopoly instead.

Dirty Tom & The Boyz have no interest in breaking it up, as it is benefits their team. Bigly.

You're still the king of the logical fallacy. Bigly.

Oh no! A coservative group is espousing conservative values.

IT'S AN EXISTENTIAL THREAT TO DEMOCRACY!

And, just overlook the fact that the Dems and their surrogates are lying about it...

(07-11-2024 02:48 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  

(07-11-2024 02:31 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(07-11-2024 02:30 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  

(07-11-2024 02:29 PM)fsquid Wrote:  

(07-09-2024 06:06 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

break up the web search monopoly instead.

Dirty Tom & The Boyz have no interest in breaking it up, as it is benefits their team. Bigly.

You're still the king of the logical fallacy. Bigly.

Oh no! A coservative group is espousing conservative values.

IT'S AN EXISTENTIAL THREAT TO DEMOCRACY!

And, just overlook the fact that the Dems and their surrogates are lying about it...

Wanting to make civil servants basically swear loyalty oaths to the Chief executive is hardly espousing conservative values.

And what about Constitutional values? Are you in favor of bans on pornography and other forms of entertainment these zealots claim they don't like?

(07-11-2024 02:55 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(07-11-2024 02:48 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  

(07-11-2024 02:31 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(07-11-2024 02:30 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  

(07-11-2024 02:29 PM)fsquid Wrote:  break up the web search monopoly instead.

Dirty Tom & The Boyz have no interest in breaking it up, as it is benefits their team. Bigly.

You're still the king of the logical fallacy. Bigly.

Oh no! A coservative group is espousing conservative values.

IT'S AN EXISTENTIAL THREAT TO DEMOCRACY!

And, just overlook the fact that the Dems and their surrogates are lying about it...

Wanting to make civil servants basically swear loyalty oaths to the Chief executive is hardly espousing conservative values.

And what about Constitutional values? Are you in favor of bans on pornography and other forms of entertainment these zealots claim they don't like?

No. I am not for bans on porn, as evil and pernicious as it is. I don't feel like you can legislate morality.

Is it possible to agree with most of their platform, but not all of it? You know, be an independent thinker.

(07-11-2024 02:55 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(07-11-2024 02:48 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  

(07-11-2024 02:31 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(07-11-2024 02:30 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  

(07-11-2024 02:29 PM)fsquid Wrote:  break up the web search monopoly instead.

Dirty Tom & The Boyz have no interest in breaking it up, as it is benefits their team. Bigly.

You're still the king of the logical fallacy. Bigly.

Oh no! A coservative group is espousing conservative values.

IT'S AN EXISTENTIAL THREAT TO DEMOCRACY!

And, just overlook the fact that the Dems and their surrogates are lying about it...

Wanting to make civil servants basically swear loyalty oaths to the Chief executive is hardly espousing conservative values.

And what about Constitutional values? Are you in favor of bans on pornography and other forms of entertainment these zealots claim they don't like?

Fearmongering seems to be the lefts favorite thing to do. Various groups advance varying ideas from book bans to gun bans but that doesn't mean it will ever happen given the legislative actions that would have to occur for it to come to fruition. I guess it's effective on low information, low IQ voters but most understand that Trump isn't going to be a dictator nor is he going to take away people's access to porn.

(07-11-2024 03:08 PM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(07-11-2024 02:55 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(07-11-2024 02:48 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  

(07-11-2024 02:31 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(07-11-2024 02:30 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  Dirty Tom & The Boyz have no interest in breaking it up, as it is benefits their team. Bigly.

You're still the king of the logical fallacy. Bigly.

Oh no! A coservative group is espousing conservative values.

IT'S AN EXISTENTIAL THREAT TO DEMOCRACY!

And, just overlook the fact that the Dems and their surrogates are lying about it...

Wanting to make civil servants basically swear loyalty oaths to the Chief executive is hardly espousing conservative values.

And what about Constitutional values? Are you in favor of bans on pornography and other forms of entertainment these zealots claim they don't like?

Fearmongering seems to be the lefts favorite thing to do. Various groups advance varying ideas from book bans to gun bans but that doesn't mean it will ever happen given the legislative actions that would have to occur for it to come to fruition. I guess it's effective on low information, low IQ voters but most understand that Trump isn't going to be a dictator nor is he going to take away people's access to porn.

It's all they got...

(07-11-2024 02:26 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

Of course this guy is totally lying and trump doesn't know him at all.

I don't care if Trump is lying about this or not. I hope it's all true and a lot worse for the left than they're claiming.

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(07-11-2024 02:55 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Are you in favor of bans on pornography and other forms of entertainment these zealots claim they don't like?

Yes.

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Project 2025 is all the talking heads and political hacks are talking about. Its an organized attempt to swarming social media and the news media with false info about Project 2025 in order to "scare" people and "distract" from the Biden drama. They've gone to their traditional playback of dirty tricks. It always works for them.

It appears the Dem's have created another boogyman. Whatever credibility the media had left evaporated with the Biden mental decline cover-up and fewer and fewer will buy the narrative.

(07-01-2024 10:29 PM)andybible1995 Wrote:  So apparently, the left has been going around saying if Trump is reelected, that a group of people will carry out Project 2025. From what I've read of it, it's the usual fear mongering from the left about Christian Nationalism, authoritarianism (which is hilarious since the left is way more authoritarian the right), and about creating an autocracy (which is a dictatorship, which the left wants).

Has anyone else read it or looked into it?

Because Trump is such a devout and pious moral Christian. I doubt the world should have any concerns about Trump pushing a new forced Christian caliphate on US citizens. It’s pretty obvious the Democrats have nothing this election cycle. They must be really desperate. I mean, “How do you fear monger a known quantity?” Everyone knows who is and how he governs. He’s going to do basically what he did the first term—but with less deep state resistance—-cuz a lot of that deep state scum will be looking for a new job in 2025. Trump learns from his mistakes.

Let’s be honest, what can the Demtards really campaign on?

They have:
- a brain dead retard at the top of their ticket (for now)
- gutter trash d-ck sucking ho as next in line
- lousy economy w/ raging inflation & cost of living increases
- failed to stop the invasion at the border


You couldn’t have f-cked up the last 4 years any worse. So the party who wants to “save democracy” by letting non citizens vote has to use this 2025 thing as a major tenet of their campaign.

(07-11-2024 04:48 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(07-01-2024 10:29 PM)andybible1995 Wrote:  So apparently, the left has been going around saying if Trump is reelected, that a group of people will carry out Project 2025. From what I've read of it, it's the usual fear mongering from the left about Christian Nationalism, authoritarianism (which is hilarious since the left is way more authoritarian the right), and about creating an autocracy (which is a dictatorship, which the left wants).

Has anyone else read it or looked into it?

Because Trump is such a devout and pious moral Christian. I doubt the world should have any concerns about Trump pushing a new forced Christian caliphate on US citizens. It’s pretty obvious the Democrats have nothing this election cycle. They must be really desperate. I mean, “How do you fear monger a known quantity?” Everyone knows who is and how he governs. He’s going to do basically what he did the first term—but with less deep state resistance—-cuz a lot of that deep state scum will be looking for a new job in 2025. Trump learns from his mistakes.

Outside of the freaks in the Westboro Baptist Church, no one sane Christian wants to erect a Christian caliphate in America. However, there is a certain sect of the world's population that's been wanting to establish a worldwide caliphate of their religion for the last 1400 years.

(07-11-2024 06:11 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

I hate to say it, but I'm afraid there are enough stupid and evil people on the left that will vote for Biden and put him over the top because of this.