(07-08-2024 08:37 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(07-08-2024 08:25 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  I know nothing about it, but I disagree with it?

I know nothing about it, even though my proposals contain many of the same proposals?

I know nothing about it, but several of my advisors play large roles in it?

I know nothing about it, but several of my PACS are involved in the funding of it?

I know nothing about it, but the Heritage Foundation which picks all my judges is one of its biggest proponents?

SUMMATION: trump is lying. Again.

He took away a Dem play card. Of course the D's are going to accuse him of lying.

How can or why would you say you disagree with something you supposedly know nothing about?

That's either really ignorant or just a lie. There's no other option, man. Think.

At this point, this is the only Dem talking point..

They can't claim a better economy than when Trump was in office.
Can't claim Trump is unfit knowing that Grandpa is on life support.
Can't claim Trump is anti-abortion based on what he's claiming.
Can't claim Trump is a Nazi when it shows that the Dems are using Nazi tactics.

So it's "Well Trump is a liar"... but what about Joe and his daily 40-50 lies when he's allowed to speak?

(07-08-2024 09:21 AM)gdunn Wrote:  At this point, this is the only Dem talking point..

They can't claim a better economy than when Trump was in office.
Can't claim Trump is unfit knowing that Grandpa is on life support.
Can't claim Trump is anti-abortion based on what he's claiming.
Can't claim Trump is a Nazi when it shows that the Dems are using Nazi tactics.

So it's "Well Trump is a liar"... but what about Joe and his daily 40-50 lies when he's allowed to speak?

The economy is better under Biden, in nearly every measure. Full stop.

trump IS lying about abortion. In three ways. He's actually pro-choice, but he's also lying to court the rubes that makeup the religious base of his party, and lying to the moderates that he doesn't want the abortion bans that his religious base wants. It's typical trump...lie to everyone and and anyone to get a vote.

Of course Biden lies, although when you claim he's mentally incapacitated can you then definitively state that he's purposely lying rather than just forgetting things and flubbing what he wants to say? Regardless, there is NO honest assessment which could conclude that he lies anywhere near the level trump does.

How is the economy better under Biden?

(07-08-2024 09:47 AM)b2b Wrote:  How is the economy better under Biden?

Good question. I'd also like to know what metrics were used to state Trump lies more than Biden as well.

(07-08-2024 09:26 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(07-08-2024 09:21 AM)gdunn Wrote:  At this point, this is the only Dem talking point..

They can't claim a better economy than when Trump was in office.
Can't claim Trump is unfit knowing that Grandpa is on life support.
Can't claim Trump is anti-abortion based on what he's claiming.
Can't claim Trump is a Nazi when it shows that the Dems are using Nazi tactics.

So it's "Well Trump is a liar"... but what about Joe and his daily 40-50 lies when he's allowed to speak?

The economy is better under Biden, in nearly every measure. Full stop.

trump IS lying about abortion. In three ways. He's actually pro-choice, but he's also lying to court the rubes that makeup the religious base of his party, and lying to the moderates that he doesn't want the abortion bans that his religious base wants. It's typical trump...lie to everyone and and anyone to get a vote.

Of course Biden lies, although when you claim he's mentally incapacitated can you then definitively state that he's purposely lying rather than just forgetting things and flubbing what he wants to say? Regardless, there is NO honest assessment which could conclude that he lies anywhere near the level trump does.

Bwahahzhahahdga

Full Stop


You pudgy little facist

Yeah, thanks to Covid the "Trump economy" was worse. I guess that's the moronic angle they're taking.

I know nothing about Minnesota Gopher mens hockey day to day operations, but I still disagree with Gopher hockey.

(07-08-2024 09:21 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(07-08-2024 08:37 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(07-08-2024 08:25 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  I know nothing about it, but I disagree with it?

I know nothing about it, even though my proposals contain many of the same proposals?

I know nothing about it, but several of my advisors play large roles in it?

I know nothing about it, but several of my PACS are involved in the funding of it?

I know nothing about it, but the Heritage Foundation which picks all my judges is one of its biggest proponents?

SUMMATION: trump is lying. Again.

He took away a Dem play card. Of course the D's are going to accuse him of lying.

How can or why would you say you disagree with something you supposedly know nothing about?

That's either really ignorant or just a lie. There's no other option, man. Think.

In responding he obviously now knows about it. It's not like that implies he designed it or was in some way involved. This isn't rocket science. Anyway, Project 2025 is apparently the new D scheme to scare it's followers. No one else is really taking it seriously.

(07-08-2024 09:21 AM)gdunn Wrote:  At this point, this is the only Dem talking point..

They can't claim a better economy than when Trump was in office.
Can't claim Trump is unfit knowing that Grandpa is on life support.
Can't claim Trump is anti-abortion based on what he's claiming.
Can't claim Trump is a Nazi when it shows that the Dems are using Nazi tactics.

So it's "Well Trump is a liar"... but what about Joe and his daily 40-50 lies when he's allowed to speak?

Duh, they can now deflect those "lies" as dementia since they want him gone.

That will be the Dem talking point, but it is not quite ready to be rolled out yet. Not until after the powers that be go into "Joe needs to go" modus-operandi and need to throw him under the buss officially.


It will go something like this:

Joe does not lie, he has some form of Alzheimers or Dementia, he doesn't know what he is saying. But Trump, well, he is still of sound mind enough to know that he is lying.

(07-08-2024 09:26 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(07-08-2024 09:21 AM)gdunn Wrote:  At this point, this is the only Dem talking point..

They can't claim a better economy than when Trump was in office.
Can't claim Trump is unfit knowing that Grandpa is on life support.
Can't claim Trump is anti-abortion based on what he's claiming.
Can't claim Trump is a Nazi when it shows that the Dems are using Nazi tactics.

So it's "Well Trump is a liar"... but what about Joe and his daily 40-50 lies when he's allowed to speak?

The economy is better under Biden, in nearly every measure. Full stop.

Trump's economy was seriously damaged by COVID. Most all of Biden's economical "accomplishments" are tied to people going back to work from that pandemic ending. Had there never been a pandemic then this conversation wouldn't even be thing and it would be like comparing Trump's border security to Biden's border security (which hasn't really been a thing either). Full stop.

Biden has always been a liar. His lack of brain activity in recent years hasn't caused him to lie.

The fear among the Dems is palpable.

Trump is not going to go full dictator, nor is he going to just abolish Congress and the Senate. I am not even sure he is going to go scorched earth on most of his political enemies - he has so much schidt to fix, he won't have time.


Do I think there are a handful of people who may be in his crosshairs - absolutely. Guys like McCabe, Brennan and Comer come to mind. I also think he may have some serious (and legitimate) issues with the press. I can see him telling the majority of them to pissoff and force them to be replaced with new blood or else they will not have access to pressers.

(07-08-2024 09:26 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(07-08-2024 09:21 AM)gdunn Wrote:  At this point, this is the only Dem talking point..

They can't claim a better economy than when Trump was in office.
Can't claim Trump is unfit knowing that Grandpa is on life support.
Can't claim Trump is anti-abortion based on what he's claiming.
Can't claim Trump is a Nazi when it shows that the Dems are using Nazi tactics.

So it's "Well Trump is a liar"... but what about Joe and his daily 40-50 lies when he's allowed to speak?

The economy is better under Biden, in nearly every measure. Full stop.

trump IS lying about abortion. In three ways. He's actually pro-choice, but he's also lying to court the rubes that makeup the religious base of his party, and lying to the moderates that he doesn't want the abortion bans that his religious base wants. It's typical trump...lie to everyone and and anyone to get a vote.

Of course Biden lies, although when you claim he's mentally incapacitated can you then definitively state that he's purposely lying rather than just forgetting things and flubbing what he wants to say? Regardless, there is NO honest assessment which could conclude that he lies anywhere near the level trump does.

Appreciate you playing along Tom... You're a good egg..


#teamovercountry
#TomsRidinwitBiden

(07-08-2024 09:26 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(07-08-2024 09:21 AM)gdunn Wrote:  At this point, this is the only Dem talking point..

They can't claim a better economy than when Trump was in office.
Can't claim Trump is unfit knowing that Grandpa is on life support.
Can't claim Trump is anti-abortion based on what he's claiming.
Can't claim Trump is a Nazi when it shows that the Dems are using Nazi tactics.

So it's "Well Trump is a liar"... but what about Joe and his daily 40-50 lies when he's allowed to speak?

The economy is better under Biden, in nearly every measure. Full stop.

You really think saying "full stop" is going to get people who saw you first hand scramble up deductibles and copays suddenly think you have any credible knowledge on the economy?

(07-08-2024 11:58 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(07-08-2024 09:26 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(07-08-2024 09:21 AM)gdunn Wrote:  At this point, this is the only Dem talking point..

They can't claim a better economy than when Trump was in office.
Can't claim Trump is unfit knowing that Grandpa is on life support.
Can't claim Trump is anti-abortion based on what he's claiming.
Can't claim Trump is a Nazi when it shows that the Dems are using Nazi tactics.

So it's "Well Trump is a liar"... but what about Joe and his daily 40-50 lies when he's allowed to speak?

The economy is better under Biden, in nearly every measure. Full stop.

You really think saying "full stop" is going to get people who saw you first hand scramble up deductibles and copays suddenly think you have any credible knowledge on the economy?

SuDdEnLy EvErYoNe'S aN eXpErT..

Then proceeds to try to be an expert on everything.

(07-08-2024 11:58 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(07-08-2024 09:26 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(07-08-2024 09:21 AM)gdunn Wrote:  At this point, this is the only Dem talking point..

They can't claim a better economy than when Trump was in office.
Can't claim Trump is unfit knowing that Grandpa is on life support.
Can't claim Trump is anti-abortion based on what he's claiming.
Can't claim Trump is a Nazi when it shows that the Dems are using Nazi tactics.

So it's "Well Trump is a liar"... but what about Joe and his daily 40-50 lies when he's allowed to speak?

The economy is better under Biden, in nearly every measure. Full stop.

You really think saying "full stop" is going to get people who saw you first hand scramble up deductibles and copays suddenly think you have any credible knowledge on the economy?

What measures? The cherry picked ones or the ones that actually affect the common person's purse?

(07-08-2024 11:58 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(07-08-2024 09:26 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(07-08-2024 09:21 AM)gdunn Wrote:  At this point, this is the only Dem talking point..

They can't claim a better economy than when Trump was in office.
Can't claim Trump is unfit knowing that Grandpa is on life support.
Can't claim Trump is anti-abortion based on what he's claiming.
Can't claim Trump is a Nazi when it shows that the Dems are using Nazi tactics.

So it's "Well Trump is a liar"... but what about Joe and his daily 40-50 lies when he's allowed to speak?

The economy is better under Biden, in nearly every measure. Full stop.

You really think saying "full stop" is going to get people who saw you first hand scramble up deductibles and copays suddenly think you have any credible knowledge on the economy?

Once again, Mr. I don't know that posit is a word, Mr. I don't know that utility bill folding machines don't fold ballots correctly, Mr. I don't know what actually happened with voting in Arizona or Antrim County, MI, Mr. I think Blinken is resigning, Mr. I don't know the difference between word-search and spell check, Mr. I don't have a clue what the PRA is, Mr. I don't know that time stamps on evening news broadcasts are the current time and not the time stamp of the video they are currently showing, Mr. I think Dominion tabulations machines switch votes based on algorithms, etc....I misspoke about co-insurance. Not deductibles nor co-pays. And it was like 10 ******* years ago.

And no, I don't think saying full stop means anything to dishonest trolls like yourself.

After Covid and people went back to work, Biden & Tom are claiming that they created 15 million new jobs that Trump lost.

And, they have the audacity to scream "Trump Lies".

(07-08-2024 12:58 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  After Covid and people went back to work, Biden & Tom are claiming that they created 15 million new jobs that Trump lost.

And, they have the audacity to scream "Trump Lies".

Never made that claim anywhere...THAT is a lie.

Although I am pretty sure there have been more jobs created under Biden than were created under trump, even if you take out the covid ones. I think it's like 5 million more jobs IIRC.

And the Biden administration is not being truthful when they make the claim of 15 million...they need to mention the Covid job losses. I guess I missed where you EVER claimed the trump administration was untruthful on anything.

And you can close your eyes and plug your ears all you want, but there is NO doubt that trump has told more lies than any president or candidate on record. And it's not even close.

(07-08-2024 01:05 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(07-08-2024 12:58 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  After Covid and people went back to work, Biden & Tom are claiming that they created 15 million new jobs that Trump lost.

And, they have the audacity to scream "Trump Lies".

Never made that claim anywhere...THAT is a lie.

Although I am pretty sure there have been more jobs created under Biden than were created under trump, even if you take out the covid ones. I think it's like 5 million more jobs IIRC.

And the Biden administration is not being truthful when they make the claim of 15 million...they need to mention the Covid job losses. I guess I missed where you EVER claimed the trump administration was untruthful on anything.

And you can close your eyes and plug your ears all you want, but there is NO doubt that trump has told more lies than any president or candidate on record. And it's not even close.

The smell of desperation is strong here.