(05-02-2024 11:39 AM)JRsec Wrote:  

(05-02-2024 11:30 AM)miko33 Wrote:  

(05-02-2024 11:17 AM)JRsec Wrote:  

(05-02-2024 11:12 AM)miko33 Wrote:  

(05-02-2024 10:59 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  some of us back(ed) it up in the field over a span ... there's a difference...

it's time to engage 'that guy' for a handful of hrs ... or is that 'engorge'....

#easilyConfused

I’d say many of us have done something here and there throughout our lives to push against government overreach. I know some of you know each other IRL. None of you know me nor do I know you. So when a participant on the board makes a blanket statement about what I allowed to happen and that I’m a part of the problem rings hollow. Reality is everyone who paid/pays taxes is the problem…Feds, states, local, sales, etc….

Deny responsibility and assign blame. Hmm? Where have I heard that before? Most of us don't know each other. I have been active, sometimes successful, most time in futility, but active. I accept responsibility for my futile efforts, but where there has been success it is always a group effort. The problem is in inspiring the groups.

Adapt, innovate, overcome, or die. Silence is acquiescence.

I have been active too…. I fail to see how calling people out for doing nothing helps. It would help if you have tangible things to offer that can drive change. Pointing fingers with nothing offered as ways to drive change in meaningless.

I don’t have any problems with you as a person or anything like that. But c’mon, if you’re pointing out issues you should also offer up solutions or at least ideas that can help the issues you brought up.

What the hell were you doing bubba when you declared the board fricked? If it's wasting your time why are you here? You brought this on! I just called you on it.

Why did you assume I'm quitting the board? I'd never announce that I'm quitting - I'd just leave.

But...to close the loop so I'm not a hypocrite. I critiqued the board; therefore, a suggestion - lock threads when people start making it all about personal attacks. Maybe ban some people who rather throw insults instead of discuss ideas.

(05-02-2024 12:03 PM)miko33 Wrote:  

(05-02-2024 11:39 AM)JRsec Wrote:  

(05-02-2024 11:30 AM)miko33 Wrote:  

(05-02-2024 11:17 AM)JRsec Wrote:  

(05-02-2024 11:12 AM)miko33 Wrote:  I’d say many of us have done something here and there throughout our lives to push against government overreach. I know some of you know each other IRL. None of you know me nor do I know you. So when a participant on the board makes a blanket statement about what I allowed to happen and that I’m a part of the problem rings hollow. Reality is everyone who paid/pays taxes is the problem…Feds, states, local, sales, etc….

Deny responsibility and assign blame. Hmm? Where have I heard that before? Most of us don't know each other. I have been active, sometimes successful, most time in futility, but active. I accept responsibility for my futile efforts, but where there has been success it is always a group effort. The problem is in inspiring the groups.

Adapt, innovate, overcome, or die. Silence is acquiescence.

I have been active too…. I fail to see how calling people out for doing nothing helps. It would help if you have tangible things to offer that can drive change. Pointing fingers with nothing offered as ways to drive change in meaningless.

I don’t have any problems with you as a person or anything like that. But c’mon, if you’re pointing out issues you should also offer up solutions or at least ideas that can help the issues you brought up.

What the hell were you doing bubba when you declared the board fricked? If it's wasting your time why are you here? You brought this on! I just called you on it.

Why did you assume I'm quitting the board? I'd never announce that I'm quitting - I'd just leave.

But...to close the loop so I'm not a hypocrite. I critiqued the board; therefore, a suggestion - lock threads when people start making it all about personal attacks. Maybe ban some people who rather throw insults instead of discuss ideas.

In theory, you are correct.

But, when communicating with people who think their are 100 genders and that raising an American flag is a form of protest equivalent to raising a Palestinian flag on a US college campus, it's pretty hard to "discuss ideas".

It's akin to me asking my dog what he thinks about the 5 points of Calvinism.

Stormy Daniels' lawyer might be the best witness for the defense. Just wrecked the prosecution's case. Said the payment FROM COHEN wasn't "hush money". Also said he was never under the assumption his client and Trump had a " relationship". Also, said Cohen went ballistic when Trump didn't take him to DC with him.

(05-02-2024 12:03 PM)miko33 Wrote:  

(05-02-2024 11:39 AM)JRsec Wrote:  

(05-02-2024 11:30 AM)miko33 Wrote:  

(05-02-2024 11:17 AM)JRsec Wrote:  

(05-02-2024 11:12 AM)miko33 Wrote:  I’d say many of us have done something here and there throughout our lives to push against government overreach. I know some of you know each other IRL. None of you know me nor do I know you. So when a participant on the board makes a blanket statement about what I allowed to happen and that I’m a part of the problem rings hollow. Reality is everyone who paid/pays taxes is the problem…Feds, states, local, sales, etc….

Deny responsibility and assign blame. Hmm? Where have I heard that before? Most of us don't know each other. I have been active, sometimes successful, most time in futility, but active. I accept responsibility for my futile efforts, but where there has been success it is always a group effort. The problem is in inspiring the groups.

Adapt, innovate, overcome, or die. Silence is acquiescence.

I have been active too…. I fail to see how calling people out for doing nothing helps. It would help if you have tangible things to offer that can drive change. Pointing fingers with nothing offered as ways to drive change in meaningless.

I don’t have any problems with you as a person or anything like that. But c’mon, if you’re pointing out issues you should also offer up solutions or at least ideas that can help the issues you brought up.

What the hell were you doing bubba when you declared the board fricked? If it's wasting your time why are you here? You brought this on! I just called you on it.

Why did you assume I'm quitting the board? I'd never announce that I'm quitting - I'd just leave.

But...to close the loop so I'm not a hypocrite. I critiqued the board; therefore, a suggestion - lock threads when people start making it all about personal attacks. Maybe ban some people who rather throw insults instead of discuss ideas.

I didn't assume anything, you attempted to dissemble the discussion by creating a strawman. You implied the board was wasting your time. It's a valid question I posed as to why if you are wasting your time here. It's not an assumption. It is the logical conclusion to be drawn from your statement. Which if you are still here was obviously insincere.

Then you propose to tell me how to moderate when that is the duty of the board mods first before I attempt to do anything. You harangued a board on this site openly disparaging it. I called you on it. Maybe I should ban those who criticize the site and tell others how to moderate, rather than discuss ideas, especially when they attempt to dissemble my remarks.

If you want to post then post. If you don't, don't. But insulting the entire board which does post by calling it a waste of time and then continuing to post about it is a waste of everyone else's time.

You've long been a troll, but a humorous one and that has been appreciated. But the business of this site is posting and posters, not truth, not always even reality, but a place to vent, share some feelings and ideas, and decompress, at least in the Spin Room, not so much anywhere else here. If it doesn't get truly hostile most anything goes except the things I have mentioned elsewhere in this forum. But lambasting the forum as a whole is tantamount to lambasting the reason the site exists and makes me as a moderator question whether your continued presence is beneficial.

I offer that not as threat, but a reminder of what we are, what we do, what we don't claim and do claim to be. It's something everyone should ponder when fed up. Arguing and banter is good for business. Rock tossers not so much.

(05-02-2024 12:03 PM)miko33 Wrote:  

(05-02-2024 11:39 AM)JRsec Wrote:  

(05-02-2024 11:30 AM)miko33 Wrote:  

(05-02-2024 11:17 AM)JRsec Wrote:  

(05-02-2024 11:12 AM)miko33 Wrote:  I’d say many of us have done something here and there throughout our lives to push against government overreach. I know some of you know each other IRL. None of you know me nor do I know you. So when a participant on the board makes a blanket statement about what I allowed to happen and that I’m a part of the problem rings hollow. Reality is everyone who paid/pays taxes is the problem…Feds, states, local, sales, etc….

Deny responsibility and assign blame. Hmm? Where have I heard that before? Most of us don't know each other. I have been active, sometimes successful, most time in futility, but active. I accept responsibility for my futile efforts, but where there has been success it is always a group effort. The problem is in inspiring the groups.

Adapt, innovate, overcome, or die. Silence is acquiescence.

I have been active too…. I fail to see how calling people out for doing nothing helps. It would help if you have tangible things to offer that can drive change. Pointing fingers with nothing offered as ways to drive change in meaningless.

I don’t have any problems with you as a person or anything like that. But c’mon, if you’re pointing out issues you should also offer up solutions or at least ideas that can help the issues you brought up.

What the hell were you doing bubba when you declared the board fricked? If it's wasting your time why are you here? You brought this on! I just called you on it.

Why did you assume I'm quitting the board? I'd never announce that I'm quitting - I'd just leave.

But...to close the loop so I'm not a hypocrite. I critiqued the board; therefore, a suggestion - lock threads when people start making it all about personal attacks. Maybe ban some people who rather throw insults instead of discuss ideas.

" I critiqued the board; therefore, a suggestion - lock threads when people start making it all about personal attacks. Maybe ban some people who rather throw insults instead of discuss ideas"

I fail to see what your quote has to do with the conversation between you two. What was the purpose are you unhappy here?

Miko, I don't really know what you expect of us. I know that I come to vent, throw out my 2 cents on the ante and hope I didn't make a fool of myself with my post/ideas.

You claim that nothing is accomplished by reading/posting on the board. You are absolutely right. Nothing is accomplished because we don't hold reins to anything that is governmental. Our ideas aren't gonna change Schiff because the people responsible to help/harm us don't get into our site, I presume. We are like that old man who sits on his porch waiting for some kid to walk on his grass or go by his house raising a ruckus. He can shout all he wants and those people aren't gonna give a Schiff and will just laugh at him...that's us. Nobody cares what our views are because nothing ever changes but what does happen is we get it off our chests, that's all we can do.

If you want change don't look here, look for the people who make/break the laws in government and see if they will listen...I doubt they will care to enoough to make any changes. Like us you'll be the one sitting on your porch shouting to high heaven to our electees.

In a nutshell all you're doing is barking up the WRONG TREE. So stay or leave but don't expect our posts will change anything because it won't.

(05-02-2024 01:35 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  You claim that nothing is accomplished by reading/posting on the board. You are absolutely right. Nothing is accomplished because we don't hold reins to anything that is governmental.

Speak for yourself, ollie. I for one have change minds, moved hearts and saved souls with my ever-insightful contributions to this board.

One man. Doing the work of ten. For the good of millions.

In fact, I am going to now make that part of my signature.

(05-02-2024 01:52 PM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  In fact, I am going to now make that part of my signature.

That reminds me of the old saw used for combat decisions which would involve large amounts of casualties in WWII. "I figure if we lose one man now that's saving the lives of 10 later. So, if we lose 100 today, we've saved 500, right?" And thus, was born the psychological cover for making combat decisions for field level officers. "We aren't losing men, we are saving lives!"

What I can tell you is that you don't stop fascism or communism unless you are willing to lose lives to stop it. Is it better to risk life to save freedom? Every time!

(05-02-2024 02:09 PM)JRsec Wrote:  Is it better to risk life to save freedom? Every time!

"Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in pursuit of justice is no virtue."
--Barry Goldwater, 1964

(05-02-2024 01:51 PM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  

(05-02-2024 01:35 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  You claim that nothing is accomplished by reading/posting on the board. You are absolutely right. Nothing is accomplished because we don't hold reins to anything that is governmental.

Speak for yourself, ollie. I for one have change minds, moved hearts and saved souls with my ever-insightful contributions to this board.

One man. Doing the work of ten. For the good of millions.

OK, you suck but I laughed so +3

(05-02-2024 01:51 PM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  

(05-02-2024 01:35 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  You claim that nothing is accomplished by reading/posting on the board. You are absolutely right. Nothing is accomplished because we don't hold reins to anything that is governmental.

Speak for yourself, ollie. I for one have change minds, moved hearts and saved souls with my ever-insightful contributions to this board.

One man. Doing the work of ten. For the good of millions. Reeeeeeeeeeee

Fify

(05-02-2024 12:28 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(05-02-2024 12:03 PM)miko33 Wrote:  

(05-02-2024 11:39 AM)JRsec Wrote:  

(05-02-2024 11:30 AM)miko33 Wrote:  

(05-02-2024 11:17 AM)JRsec Wrote:  Deny responsibility and assign blame. Hmm? Where have I heard that before? Most of us don't know each other. I have been active, sometimes successful, most time in futility, but active. I accept responsibility for my futile efforts, but where there has been success it is always a group effort. The problem is in inspiring the groups.

Adapt, innovate, overcome, or die. Silence is acquiescence.

I have been active too…. I fail to see how calling people out for doing nothing helps. It would help if you have tangible things to offer that can drive change. Pointing fingers with nothing offered as ways to drive change in meaningless.

I don’t have any problems with you as a person or anything like that. But c’mon, if you’re pointing out issues you should also offer up solutions or at least ideas that can help the issues you brought up.

What the hell were you doing bubba when you declared the board fricked? If it's wasting your time why are you here? You brought this on! I just called you on it.

Why did you assume I'm quitting the board? I'd never announce that I'm quitting - I'd just leave.

But...to close the loop so I'm not a hypocrite. I critiqued the board; therefore, a suggestion - lock threads when people start making it all about personal attacks. Maybe ban some people who rather throw insults instead of discuss ideas.

I didn't assume anything, you attempted to dissemble the discussion by creating a strawman. You implied the board was wasting your time. It's a valid question I posed as to why if you are wasting your time here. It's not an assumption. It is the logical conclusion to be drawn from your statement. Which if you are still here was obviously insincere.

Then you propose to tell me how to moderate when that is the duty of the board mods first before I attempt to do anything. You harangued a board on this site openly disparaging it. I called you on it. Maybe I should ban those who criticize the site and tell others how to moderate, rather than discuss ideas, especially when they attempt to dissemble my remarks.

If you want to post then post. If you don't, don't. But insulting the entire board which does post by calling it a waste of time and then continuing to post about it is a waste of everyone else's time.

You've long been a troll, but a humorous one and that has been appreciated. But the business of this site is posting and posters, not truth, not always even reality, but a place to vent, share some feelings and ideas, and decompress, at least in the Spin Room, not so much anywhere else here. If it doesn't get truly hostile most anything goes except the things I have mentioned elsewhere in this forum. But lambasting the forum as a whole is tantamount to lambasting the reason the site exists and makes me as a moderator question whether your continued presence is beneficial.

I offer that not as threat, but a reminder of what we are, what we do, what we don't claim and do claim to be. It's something everyone should ponder when fed up. Arguing and banter is good for business. Rock tossers not so much.

IOW, just “work” within the framework and blow off steam as needed.

IF - THEN - ELSE.

(05-02-2024 01:52 PM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  In fact, I am going to now make that part of my signature.

'you'® gonna really hate muh now (hot a ewe) ...



AM, you're a hoot-n-half, brah!

(05-02-2024 07:54 PM)miko33 Wrote:  

(05-02-2024 12:28 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(05-02-2024 12:03 PM)miko33 Wrote:  

(05-02-2024 11:39 AM)JRsec Wrote:  

(05-02-2024 11:30 AM)miko33 Wrote:  I have been active too…. I fail to see how calling people out for doing nothing helps. It would help if you have tangible things to offer that can drive change. Pointing fingers with nothing offered as ways to drive change in meaningless.

I don’t have any problems with you as a person or anything like that. But c’mon, if you’re pointing out issues you should also offer up solutions or at least ideas that can help the issues you brought up.

What the hell were you doing bubba when you declared the board fricked? If it's wasting your time why are you here? You brought this on! I just called you on it.

Why did you assume I'm quitting the board? I'd never announce that I'm quitting - I'd just leave.

But...to close the loop so I'm not a hypocrite. I critiqued the board; therefore, a suggestion - lock threads when people start making it all about personal attacks. Maybe ban some people who rather throw insults instead of discuss ideas.

I didn't assume anything, you attempted to dissemble the discussion by creating a strawman. You implied the board was wasting your time. It's a valid question I posed as to why if you are wasting your time here. It's not an assumption. It is the logical conclusion to be drawn from your statement. Which if you are still here was obviously insincere.

Then you propose to tell me how to moderate when that is the duty of the board mods first before I attempt to do anything. You harangued a board on this site openly disparaging it. I called you on it. Maybe I should ban those who criticize the site and tell others how to moderate, rather than discuss ideas, especially when they attempt to dissemble my remarks.

If you want to post then post. If you don't, don't. But insulting the entire board which does post by calling it a waste of time and then continuing to post about it is a waste of everyone else's time.

You've long been a troll, but a humorous one and that has been appreciated. But the business of this site is posting and posters, not truth, not always even reality, but a place to vent, share some feelings and ideas, and decompress, at least in the Spin Room, not so much anywhere else here. If it doesn't get truly hostile most anything goes except the things I have mentioned elsewhere in this forum. But lambasting the forum as a whole is tantamount to lambasting the reason the site exists and makes me as a moderator question whether your continued presence is beneficial.

I offer that not as threat, but a reminder of what we are, what we do, what we don't claim and do claim to be. It's something everyone should ponder when fed up. Arguing and banter is good for business. Rock tossers not so much.

IOW, just “work” within the framework and blow off steam as needed.

IF - THEN - ELSE.

if/then is easily my fave for more than "else" ... "satisfactory" all depends on training capacity...

(05-02-2024 01:52 PM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  In fact, I am going to now make that part of my signature.

AM, love you buddy, but you just made me barf!

(05-02-2024 01:51 PM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  Speak for yourself, ollie. I for one have change minds, moved hearts and saved souls with my ever-insightful contributions to this board.
One man. Doing the work of ten. For the good of millions.

I don't know that I'm ready to make such grandiose claims, but I do think that I have gotten at least a few people to see the advantages of Bismarck health care, the Friedman negative income tax or the Boortz-Linder prebate/prefund, and lower and flatter and broader taxes.

(05-02-2024 01:52 PM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  In fact, I am going to now make that part of my signature.

Go to it…….but, this board is a grand place to lower your IQ a hundred points trying to argue with idiots. At least we learn a little of how the liberal morons think.

Did I call enough idiots names in the above post? If not I’ll do better next time.

(05-01-2024 05:46 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(05-01-2024 03:45 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(05-01-2024 03:40 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  

(05-01-2024 03:34 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

That ain't Tom

I edited my post I was showing what losing weight looks like...

tom posted HIS picture on here before but I'm on vacation and not spending time searching for it. Just sitting here eating before heading back to the dock at 5:30 for a overnight fishing trip

I'm guessing a lantern for flounder in the moonlight .... just a guess ...

We went off shore about 15 miles to a little spot called shark reef that has a 200ft drop off. Shark was our target but ended up catching 15 different breeds including my personal best tiger right at 9ft. We released 12 sharks between 5 of us and brought back 250 pounds of better eating fish...

best overnight trip I ever took and the deck hand had it all cleaned and fileted and on ice before we docked

Going to fish the drill rigs off the coast of Biloxi in June. Along with a little gambling

(05-02-2024 11:06 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(05-01-2024 05:46 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(05-01-2024 03:45 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(05-01-2024 03:40 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  

(05-01-2024 03:34 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

That ain't Tom

I edited my post I was showing what losing weight looks like...

tom posted HIS picture on here before but I'm on vacation and not spending time searching for it. Just sitting here eating before heading back to the dock at 5:30 for a overnight fishing trip

I'm guessing a lantern for flounder in the moonlight .... just a guess ...

We went off shore about 15 miles to a little spot called shark reef that has a 200ft drop off. Shark was our target but ended up catching 15 different breeds including my personal best tiger right at 9ft. We released 12 sharks between 5 of us and brought back 250 pounds of better eating fish...

best overnight trip I ever took and the deck hand had it all cleaned and fileted and on ice before we docked

Going to fish the drill rigs off the coast of Biloxi in June. Along with a little gambling

Used to fish the rigs of Chandelier years ago when I was younger. Loved those trips. Smoker Kings on live blue runners are a blast….however, if you ever get to the deep rigs off South Pass your life will change. The big boats don’t bother and the fishing is otherworldly.

BTW, is it legal to clean your catch before you dock now?