(05-01-2024 10:00 AM)Redwingtom Wrote: Dude, covered this ad nauseum. I don't listen to "media."
Another bald-faced lie. Post some more links from CNN & NYT and then tell us you don't listen to "media".
Then, tell us what an Independent thinker you are!
Ok Lets say that this is true for a minute.
He is hitting the talking points pretty spot on all on his own? He is actually (for real) afraid that democracy will die when Trump returns to the White House in 10 months.
He is gonna be highlighted on the fall season of Doomsday Preppers. Just stay in Michigan....
Well, to be honest, I was clearly being a tad hyperbolic. But I do truly fear what might be left should that orange menace get another 4 years. It might all depend on whether anyone in the GOP can truly stand up in defense.
It would be bad to see a better economy, cheaper energy, and a more secure border like we had his first term. I don't recall Putin invading anyone during that period of time either.
You're living in a damned fantasy world if you think things would be drastically better had trump been in office the past 3+ years, or that they'll magically be better should he get re-elected.
And there's really NO measure to indicate the economy was better under trump. And no, inflation is not the lone measure of the economy. And trump didn't have a ******* thing to do with cheaper energy. And in fact, you can directly tie higher gas prices to his disastrous 2 year OPEC production cut deal.
(05-01-2024 10:03 AM)oruvoice Wrote: Another bald-faced lie. Post some more links from CNN & NYT and then tell us you don't listen to "media".
Then, tell us what an Independent thinker you are!
Ok Lets say that this is true for a minute.
He is hitting the talking points pretty spot on all on his own? He is actually (for real) afraid that democracy will die when Trump returns to the White House in 10 months.
He is gonna be highlighted on the fall season of Doomsday Preppers. Just stay in Michigan....
Well, to be honest, I was clearly being a tad hyperbolic. But I do truly fear what might be left should that orange menace get another 4 years. It might all depend on whether anyone in the GOP can truly stand up in defense.
It would be bad to see a better economy, cheaper energy, and a more secure border like we had his first term. I don't recall Putin invading anyone during that period of time either.
You're living in a damned fantasy world if you think things would be drastically better had trump been in office the past 3+ years, or that they'll magically be better should he get re-elected.
And there's really NO measure to indicate the economy was better under trump. And no, inflation is not the lone measure of the economy. And trump didn't have a ******* thing to do with cheaper energy. And in fact, you can directly tie higher gas prices to his disastrous 2 year OPEC production cut deal.
there's nothing mo' butter in the land 0' stink when ewe try to be 'smart'...
(05-01-2024 10:03 AM)oruvoice Wrote: Another bald-faced lie. Post some more links from CNN & NYT and then tell us you don't listen to "media".
Then, tell us what an Independent thinker you are!
Ok Lets say that this is true for a minute.
He is hitting the talking points pretty spot on all on his own? He is actually (for real) afraid that democracy will die when Trump returns to the White House in 10 months.
He is gonna be highlighted on the fall season of Doomsday Preppers. Just stay in Michigan....
Well, to be honest, I was clearly being a tad hyperbolic. But I do truly fear what might be left should that orange menace get another 4 years. It might all depend on whether anyone in the GOP can truly stand up in defense.
It would be bad to see a better economy, cheaper energy, and a more secure border like we had his first term. I don't recall Putin invading anyone during that period of time either.
You're living in a damned fantasy world if you think things would be drastically better had trump been in office the past 3+ years, or that they'll magically be better should he get re-elected.
And there's really NO measure to indicate the economy was better under trump. And no, inflation is not the lone measure of the economy. And trump didn't have a ******* thing to do with cheaper energy. And in fact, you can directly tie higher gas prices to his disastrous 2 year OPEC production cut deal.
You're delusional to think they wouldn't be better. We have the two terms to compare.
(05-01-2024 11:48 AM)Eldonabe Wrote: Ok Lets say that this is true for a minute.
He is hitting the talking points pretty spot on all on his own? He is actually (for real) afraid that democracy will die when Trump returns to the White House in 10 months.
He is gonna be highlighted on the fall season of Doomsday Preppers. Just stay in Michigan....
Well, to be honest, I was clearly being a tad hyperbolic. But I do truly fear what might be left should that orange menace get another 4 years. It might all depend on whether anyone in the GOP can truly stand up in defense.
It would be bad to see a better economy, cheaper energy, and a more secure border like we had his first term. I don't recall Putin invading anyone during that period of time either.
You're living in a damned fantasy world if you think things would be drastically better had trump been in office the past 3+ years, or that they'll magically be better should he get re-elected.
And there's really NO measure to indicate the economy was better under trump. And no, inflation is not the lone measure of the economy. And trump didn't have a ******* thing to do with cheaper energy. And in fact, you can directly tie higher gas prices to his disastrous 2 year OPEC production cut deal.
there's nothing mo' butter in the land 0' stink when ewe try to be 'smart'...
please ... never stop pos(TTT)ing...
I feel that people will vote with their wallets this go around, and that will favor the MOB. All this touchy feely stuff with Biden and the liberal stuff he tries to push, only will play to a small percentage. You'll have those who always vote for given candidate on each side, but there's a fringe on both sides that pay attention to different issues.. They could be thinking, Trump said mean things, but my money went further... Or Biden seemed like the guy we wanted but things are going the way he's saying...
It's going to come down to the lesser of the two evils in some eyes.. And the question is, we've lived under 4 years or each, who was better...
The projections of Trump being a dictator is grasping at straws because *spoiler alert* Biden can't run on his record. When he tries to, he lies about what he's done.
(04-30-2024 09:43 PM)andybible1995 Wrote: And they will do it again in November. Mark my words, and don't say I didn't warn you.
Who is “they”? The report talks about voters. Not voters for a particular party. Don’t let facts get in the way of a good narrative.
JFC.... does that matter which party they voted for or support? WTF is the matter with you?
What is it about the words "Mail in Fraud" that you do not understand? ANY VOTER FRAUD is bad.
Excellent response. Mr. X. represents a sickness in the current American psyche. It is neither exclusive to the left or the right.
But it sure seems to me to be a lot more predominant on the left.
Right. We should lock them up. The media will talk about Republicans doing it, so we know of a couple of cases of Republicans.
Do people make mistakes? Sure. But we all know some of you have a hard time with intent. Which side again is claiming cheating? You can lock up anybody you want. Just follow the process like Dems are doing. You know gather evidence, charge and then prosecute. Some of you poser SC justices think you can convict on your feeelijgs.
(05-01-2024 04:07 AM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote: Who is “they”? The report talks about voters. Not voters for a particular party. Don’t let facts get in the way of a good narrative.
JFC.... does that matter which party they voted for or support? WTF is the matter with you?
What is it about the words "Mail in Fraud" that you do not understand? ANY VOTER FRAUD is bad.
Excellent response. Mr. X. represents a sickness in the current American psyche. It is neither exclusive to the left or the right.
But it sure seems to me to be a lot more predominant on the left.
Right. We should lock them up. The media will talk about Republicans doing it, so we know of a couple of cases of Republicans.
Do people make mistakes? Sure. But we all know some of you have a hard time with intent. Which side again is claiming cheating? You can lock up anybody you want. Just follow the process like Dems are doing. You know gather evidence, charge and then prosecute. Some of you poser SC justices think you can convict on your feeelijgs.
(05-01-2024 11:48 AM)Eldonabe Wrote: Ok Lets say that this is true for a minute.
He is hitting the talking points pretty spot on all on his own? He is actually (for real) afraid that democracy will die when Trump returns to the White House in 10 months.
He is gonna be highlighted on the fall season of Doomsday Preppers. Just stay in Michigan....
Well, to be honest, I was clearly being a tad hyperbolic. But I do truly fear what might be left should that orange menace get another 4 years. It might all depend on whether anyone in the GOP can truly stand up in defense.
It would be bad to see a better economy, cheaper energy, and a more secure border like we had his first term. I don't recall Putin invading anyone during that period of time either.
You're living in a damned fantasy world if you think things would be drastically better had trump been in office the past 3+ years, or that they'll magically be better should he get re-elected.
And there's really NO measure to indicate the economy was better under trump. And no, inflation is not the lone measure of the economy. And trump didn't have a ******* thing to do with cheaper energy. And in fact, you can directly tie higher gas prices to his disastrous 2 year OPEC production cut deal.
You're delusional to think they wouldn't be better. We have the two terms to compare.
So yeah, compare the economy then.
GDP
Job gains
Stock market
Unemployment rate
Oil production
(05-01-2024 12:15 PM)Redwingtom Wrote: Well, to be honest, I was clearly being a tad hyperbolic. But I do truly fear what might be left should that orange menace get another 4 years. It might all depend on whether anyone in the GOP can truly stand up in defense.
It would be bad to see a better economy, cheaper energy, and a more secure border like we had his first term. I don't recall Putin invading anyone during that period of time either.
You're living in a damned fantasy world if you think things would be drastically better had trump been in office the past 3+ years, or that they'll magically be better should he get re-elected.
And there's really NO measure to indicate the economy was better under trump. And no, inflation is not the lone measure of the economy. And trump didn't have a ******* thing to do with cheaper energy. And in fact, you can directly tie higher gas prices to his disastrous 2 year OPEC production cut deal.
You're delusional to think they wouldn't be better. We have the two terms to compare.
So yeah, compare the economy then.
GDP
Job gains
Stock market
Unemployment rate
Oil production
(05-01-2024 12:15 PM)Redwingtom Wrote: Well, to be honest, I was clearly being a tad hyperbolic. But I do truly fear what might be left should that orange menace get another 4 years. It might all depend on whether anyone in the GOP can truly stand up in defense.
It would be bad to see a better economy, cheaper energy, and a more secure border like we had his first term. I don't recall Putin invading anyone during that period of time either.
You're living in a damned fantasy world if you think things would be drastically better had trump been in office the past 3+ years, or that they'll magically be better should he get re-elected.
And there's really NO measure to indicate the economy was better under trump. And no, inflation is not the lone measure of the economy. And trump didn't have a ******* thing to do with cheaper energy. And in fact, you can directly tie higher gas prices to his disastrous 2 year OPEC production cut deal.
You're delusional to think they wouldn't be better. We have the two terms to compare.
So yeah, compare the economy then.
GDP
Job gains
Stock market
Unemployment rate
Oil production
All better under Biden.
Inflation, illegal border crossings, energy prices, all higher under Biden. Imagine the raise you would have to get in order to overcome the rise in inflation. You still can't name one thing Biden has done that has been good for this country.
(05-01-2024 01:58 PM)bearcat65 Wrote: It would be bad to see a better economy, cheaper energy, and a more secure border like we had his first term. I don't recall Putin invading anyone during that period of time either.
You're living in a damned fantasy world if you think things would be drastically better had trump been in office the past 3+ years, or that they'll magically be better should he get re-elected.
And there's really NO measure to indicate the economy was better under trump. And no, inflation is not the lone measure of the economy. And trump didn't have a ******* thing to do with cheaper energy. And in fact, you can directly tie higher gas prices to his disastrous 2 year OPEC production cut deal.
You're delusional to think they wouldn't be better. We have the two terms to compare.
So yeah, compare the economy then.
GDP
Job gains
Stock market
Unemployment rate
Oil production
All better under Biden.
Inflation, illegal border crossings, energy prices, all higher under Biden. Imagine the raise you would have to get in order to overcome the rise in inflation. You still can't name one thing Biden has done that has been good for this country.
A G A I N, inflation is NOT the economy! And the border has been ****** up for years...but sure...I'll give you one trump thing, the border crossings were likely less. Hooray...now the rest of the things are all better or the same under Biden. Sorry.
Also, I've tied the high energy prices...at least with gas...directly to the feet of trump due to his disastrous 2 year deal with OPEC to cut production by nearly 10M barrels a day. That alone killed supply when we emerged from covid, thereby exacerbating the rise of gas prices. And you can also lay a lot of the blame for your vaunted inflation to the supply chain issues that arose from Covid, which again, started when trump was in office. Not blaming him totally for that, but it did start on his watch. Also with inflation, the whole globe had it, and most all of the large countries had it worse than us and still do. You CANNOT directly blame Biden for a global rise in inflation if you're being honest.
(This post was last modified: 05-02-2024 09:25 AM by Redwingtom.)
(05-01-2024 02:12 PM)Redwingtom Wrote: You're living in a damned fantasy world if you think things would be drastically better had trump been in office the past 3+ years, or that they'll magically be better should he get re-elected.
And there's really NO measure to indicate the economy was better under trump. And no, inflation is not the lone measure of the economy. And trump didn't have a ******* thing to do with cheaper energy. And in fact, you can directly tie higher gas prices to his disastrous 2 year OPEC production cut deal.
You're delusional to think they wouldn't be better. We have the two terms to compare.
So yeah, compare the economy then.
GDP
Job gains
Stock market
Unemployment rate
Oil production
All better under Biden.
Inflation, illegal border crossings, energy prices, all higher under Biden. Imagine the raise you would have to get in order to overcome the rise in inflation. You still can't name one thing Biden has done that has been good for this country.
A G A I N, inflation is NOT the economy! And the border has been ****** up for years...but sure...I'll give you one trump thing, the border crossings were likely less. Hooray...now the rest of the things are all better or the same under Biden. Sorry.
Also, I've tied the high energy prices...at least with gas...directly to the feet of trump due to his disastrous 2 year deal with OPEC to cut production by nearly 10M barrels a day. That alone killed supply when we emerged from covid, thereby exacerbating the rise of gas prices. And you can also lay a lot of the blame for your vaunted inflation to the supply chain issues that arose from Covid, which again, started when trump was in office. Not blaming him totally for that, but it did start on his watch. Also with inflation, the whole globe had it, and most all of the large countries had it worse than us and still do. You CANNOT directly blame Biden for a global rise in inflation if you're being honest.
And you still can't name one thing Biden has done that has been good for the country. In fact there's another thread stating the best way to bring down inflation is to slow the implementation of the inflation reduction act. Biden been a disaster and deep down you know he has been. The energy prices are due to reducing reliable means of electric generation for green nonsense all the while trying to push everyone to EV"s. That alone is ridiculously stupid. The regulations the EPA are putting out there under Biden will only serve to bring gas prices higher as well as vehicle prices. Biden has done nothing to address inflation.
(05-01-2024 02:45 PM)bearcat65 Wrote: You're delusional to think they wouldn't be better. We have the two terms to compare.
So yeah, compare the economy then.
GDP
Job gains
Stock market
Unemployment rate
Oil production
All better under Biden.
Inflation, illegal border crossings, energy prices, all higher under Biden. Imagine the raise you would have to get in order to overcome the rise in inflation. You still can't name one thing Biden has done that has been good for this country.
A G A I N, inflation is NOT the economy! And the border has been ****** up for years...but sure...I'll give you one trump thing, the border crossings were likely less. Hooray...now the rest of the things are all better or the same under Biden. Sorry.
Also, I've tied the high energy prices...at least with gas...directly to the feet of trump due to his disastrous 2 year deal with OPEC to cut production by nearly 10M barrels a day. That alone killed supply when we emerged from covid, thereby exacerbating the rise of gas prices. And you can also lay a lot of the blame for your vaunted inflation to the supply chain issues that arose from Covid, which again, started when trump was in office. Not blaming him totally for that, but it did start on his watch. Also with inflation, the whole globe had it, and most all of the large countries had it worse than us and still do. You CANNOT directly blame Biden for a global rise in inflation if you're being honest.
And you still can't name one thing Biden has done that has been good for the country. In fact there's another thread stating the best way to bring down inflation is to slow the implementation of the inflation reduction act. Biden been a disaster and deep down you know he has been. The energy prices are due to reducing reliable means of electric generation for green nonsense all the while trying to push everyone to EV"s. That alone is ridiculously stupid. The regulations the EPA are putting out there under Biden will only serve to bring gas prices higher as well as vehicle prices. Biden has done nothing to address inflation.
I'm curious ... is this some northern midwestern bonding attempt at rationalization. ... if so, we won't come after yaz .... we're just hunky and some dory dow'n hey-ar!
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