As of right now, Donald Trump owes $457,721,000.00.

He has 6 hours and 35 minutes as of this post left to pay before his property starts getting seized.

Does he actually pay up or does Mar-a-lago become government property?

Must impact you more than it does me. It doesn't impact my life one bit.

He's worth 3 billion more today than before the whacko judgment.

I'm sure NY liberals plan to spend it wisely.

I think they can only seize properties in NY.. Maybe I'm wrong.

There is a process to domesticate foreign judgments in another state. State with the property in it needs to verify if the judgement is valid, etc. process can take a while if the property is held in a trust or in a corporate entity.

My best guess is they will place liens on all of the stuff in NY and may attach bank accounts if they know where they are.

If they move to take possession, they are idiots.

It's sad to see someone stupid enough to cheerlead for government seizing private property due to a kangaroo type court decision. There was no victim in this crime, both parties made money, and both would have done business with each other again. This a case of the government attacking a political opponent using the judicial system. If you are a proponent of those tactics then you are a sorry SOB that favors fascist tactics.

(03-25-2024 09:08 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  It's sad to see someone stupid enough to cheerlead for government seizing private property due to a kangaroo type court decision. There was no victim in this crime, both parties made money, and both would have done business with each other again. This a case of the government attacking a political opponent using the judicial system. If you are a proponent of those tactics then you are a sorry SOB that favors fascist tactics.

Wow, I bet the judge never heard this argument! Unfortunately, the judge doesn't care about feelings, only facts

(03-25-2024 09:13 AM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(03-25-2024 09:08 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  It's sad to see someone stupid enough to cheerlead for government seizing private property due to a kangaroo type court decision. There was no victim in this crime, both parties made money, and both would have done business with each other again. This a case of the government attacking a political opponent using the judicial system. If you are a proponent of those tactics then you are a sorry SOB that favors fascist tactics.

Wow, I bet the judge never heard this argument! Unfortunately, the judge doesn't care about feelings, only facts

You realize this decision will be overturned on appeal and that you are pulling for the weaponization of the judicial system only because it's going after someone you don't like. What happens when this happens to someone you don't dislike? Most people with an ounce of common sense recognize this for what it is, polls reflect it.

They know it very well could be but they don't care. It's all about news cycle spin for them. Thus the cheering by idiots.

(03-25-2024 09:13 AM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(03-25-2024 09:08 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  It's sad to see someone stupid enough to cheerlead for government seizing private property due to a kangaroo type court decision. There was no victim in this crime, both parties made money, and both would have done business with each other again. This a case of the government attacking a political opponent using the judicial system. If you are a proponent of those tactics then you are a sorry SOB that favors fascist tactics.

Wow, I bet the judge never heard this argument! Unfortunately, the judge doesn't care about feelings, only facts

Facts? You wouldn’t comprehend facts if they hit you in the face in the form of a boat paddle.

I hope the Idiots try to seize all of his property. It will show Americans once and for all it’s an Oligarchy as I’ve said for years not democracy.
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Understand this Kruciff if you or yours get in their way you will be run over like a dog in the road. And they won’t even hesitate or stop.

We are rapidly becoming third world and only blind fools can’t see it.

I was listening to the radio this morning and everyone wants your hero Biden gone. It wasn’t conservative radio talk either.

So, take his property because it guarantees he’ll be your next president

(03-25-2024 09:20 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(03-25-2024 09:13 AM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(03-25-2024 09:08 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  It's sad to see someone stupid enough to cheerlead for government seizing private property due to a kangaroo type court decision. There was no victim in this crime, both parties made money, and both would have done business with each other again. This a case of the government attacking a political opponent using the judicial system. If you are a proponent of those tactics then you are a sorry SOB that favors fascist tactics.

Wow, I bet the judge never heard this argument! Unfortunately, the judge doesn't care about feelings, only facts

You realize this decision will be overturned on appeal and that you are pulling for the weaponization of the judicial system only because it's going after someone you don't like. What happens when this happens to someone you don't dislike? Most people with an ounce of common sense recognize this for what it is, polls reflect it.

Buddy, Republicans weaponizing the judicial system is nothing new or unprecedented. That pandora's box isn't going to be re-opened by a fraud being held accountable for his actions, and this fraud being held accountable isn't going to stop Republicans from trying their old bag of used up tricks whenever they can, anyway.

One of the issues I read this weekend and understand that I'm not a whiz when it comes to surety bonds, that due to the amount, he can't secure one. Makes me wonder if the folks in NY knew this, and if so, when and if it goes to appeals, it'll be a black eye on both the judge and James..

(03-25-2024 09:13 AM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(03-25-2024 09:08 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  It's sad to see someone stupid enough to cheerlead for government seizing private property due to a kangaroo type court decision. There was no victim in this crime, both parties made money, and both would have done business with each other again. This a case of the government attacking a political opponent using the judicial system. If you are a proponent of those tactics then you are a sorry SOB that favors fascist tactics.

Wow, I bet the judge never heard this argument! Unfortunately, the judge doesn't care about feelings, only facts

Made up facts are called lies. It's all you sick fuqs have. You and your ilk are a cancer on our society,

(03-25-2024 09:50 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  

(03-25-2024 09:13 AM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(03-25-2024 09:08 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  It's sad to see someone stupid enough to cheerlead for government seizing private property due to a kangaroo type court decision. There was no victim in this crime, both parties made money, and both would have done business with each other again. This a case of the government attacking a political opponent using the judicial system. If you are a proponent of those tactics then you are a sorry SOB that favors fascist tactics.

Wow, I bet the judge never heard this argument! Unfortunately, the judge doesn't care about feelings, only facts

Made up facts are called lies. It's all you sick fuqs have. You and your ilk are a cancer on our society,

If you're Kellyanne Conway, made up facts are also called "alternative facts"

(03-25-2024 09:20 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(03-25-2024 09:13 AM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(03-25-2024 09:08 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  It's sad to see someone stupid enough to cheerlead for government seizing private property due to a kangaroo type court decision. There was no victim in this crime, both parties made money, and both would have done business with each other again. This a case of the government attacking a political opponent using the judicial system. If you are a proponent of those tactics then you are a sorry SOB that favors fascist tactics.

Wow, I bet the judge never heard this argument! Unfortunately, the judge doesn't care about feelings, only facts

You realize this decision will be overturned on appeal and that you are pulling for the weaponization of the judicial system only because it's going after someone you don't like. What happens when this happens to someone you don't dislike? Most people with an ounce of common sense recognize this for what it is, polls reflect it.

He's not one of those, we've seen him demonstrate it time after time. He'll scream like a girl the first time something similar happens to one of the objects of his undying devotion, like Uncle Joe and his god, Lord Zero, based on the precedent this is setting.

(03-25-2024 09:40 AM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(03-25-2024 09:20 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(03-25-2024 09:13 AM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(03-25-2024 09:08 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  It's sad to see someone stupid enough to cheerlead for government seizing private property due to a kangaroo type court decision. There was no victim in this crime, both parties made money, and both would have done business with each other again. This a case of the government attacking a political opponent using the judicial system. If you are a proponent of those tactics then you are a sorry SOB that favors fascist tactics.

Wow, I bet the judge never heard this argument! Unfortunately, the judge doesn't care about feelings, only facts

You realize this decision will be overturned on appeal and that you are pulling for the weaponization of the judicial system only because it's going after someone you don't like. What happens when this happens to someone you don't dislike? Most people with an ounce of common sense recognize this for what it is, polls reflect it.

Buddy, Republicans weaponizing the judicial system is nothing new or unprecedented. That pandora's box isn't going to be re-opened by a fraud being held accountable for his actions, and this fraud being held accountable isn't going to stop Republicans from trying their old bag of used up tricks whenever they can, anyway.

Please, feel free to expand...

If one is looking for a made for TV moment, they will be boared today. It's just a filing to get the process started.

(03-25-2024 09:48 AM)gdunn Wrote:  One of the issues I read this weekend and understand that I'm not a whiz when it comes to surety bonds, that due to the amount, he can't secure one. Makes me wonder if the folks in NY knew this, and if so, when and if it goes to appeals, it'll be a black eye on both the judge and James..

As if it isn't already? Rational people see this for what it is. People like Kruciff simply are not rational. You can't reason with them.

Never associate with idiots on their own level because, being an intelligent person, you will try to deal with them on their level, and on their level they will beat you every time. — Bob Gray, Northeast Memphis Optimes

Or more aptly put by whoever said it: Never argue with stupid people because they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.

(03-25-2024 09:40 AM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(03-25-2024 09:20 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(03-25-2024 09:13 AM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(03-25-2024 09:08 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  It's sad to see someone stupid enough to cheerlead for government seizing private property due to a kangaroo type court decision. There was no victim in this crime, both parties made money, and both would have done business with each other again. This a case of the government attacking a political opponent using the judicial system. If you are a proponent of those tactics then you are a sorry SOB that favors fascist tactics.

Wow, I bet the judge never heard this argument! Unfortunately, the judge doesn't care about feelings, only facts

You realize this decision will be overturned on appeal and that you are pulling for the weaponization of the judicial system only because it's going after someone you don't like. What happens when this happens to someone you don't dislike? Most people with an ounce of common sense recognize this for what it is, polls reflect it.

Buddy, Republicans weaponizing the judicial system is nothing new or unprecedented. That pandora's box isn't going to be re-opened by a fraud being held accountable for his actions, and this fraud being held accountable isn't going to stop Republicans from trying their old bag of used up tricks whenever they can, anyway.

You have no idea what you are talking about. The democrats are using the judicial to go after Trump because they don't have confidence that the current turnip in chief can beat him due to his abysmal showing. This trial was about a common practice where Trump provided his valuation and the bank came back with theirs. The bank testified at trial that they were paid back with interest and suffered no harm. Do you support wasting tax payer money to go after every company that has ever done that or just Trump because it happens every day.

(03-25-2024 09:56 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  

(03-25-2024 09:40 AM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(03-25-2024 09:20 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(03-25-2024 09:13 AM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(03-25-2024 09:08 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  It's sad to see someone stupid enough to cheerlead for government seizing private property due to a kangaroo type court decision. There was no victim in this crime, both parties made money, and both would have done business with each other again. This a case of the government attacking a political opponent using the judicial system. If you are a proponent of those tactics then you are a sorry SOB that favors fascist tactics.

Wow, I bet the judge never heard this argument! Unfortunately, the judge doesn't care about feelings, only facts

You realize this decision will be overturned on appeal and that you are pulling for the weaponization of the judicial system only because it's going after someone you don't like. What happens when this happens to someone you don't dislike? Most people with an ounce of common sense recognize this for what it is, polls reflect it.

Buddy, Republicans weaponizing the judicial system is nothing new or unprecedented. That pandora's box isn't going to be re-opened by a fraud being held accountable for his actions, and this fraud being held accountable isn't going to stop Republicans from trying their old bag of used up tricks whenever they can, anyway.

Please, feel free to expand...

Mind telling the classroom how exactly Roe v Wade came to be overturned? About the time of Merrick Garland's nomination could be a good starting point. I didn't hear many people here accuse Mitch McConnell of weaponizing the DoJ.

Of course that's just one, egregious example. Sicking the FBI on a political opponent in 2016 is another that comes to mind.

(03-25-2024 10:06 AM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(03-25-2024 09:56 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  

(03-25-2024 09:40 AM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(03-25-2024 09:20 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(03-25-2024 09:13 AM)Kruciff Wrote:  Wow, I bet the judge never heard this argument! Unfortunately, the judge doesn't care about feelings, only facts

You realize this decision will be overturned on appeal and that you are pulling for the weaponization of the judicial system only because it's going after someone you don't like. What happens when this happens to someone you don't dislike? Most people with an ounce of common sense recognize this for what it is, polls reflect it.

Buddy, Republicans weaponizing the judicial system is nothing new or unprecedented. That pandora's box isn't going to be re-opened by a fraud being held accountable for his actions, and this fraud being held accountable isn't going to stop Republicans from trying their old bag of used up tricks whenever they can, anyway.

Please, feel free to expand...

Mind telling the classroom how exactly Roe v Wade came to be overturned? About the time of Merrick Garland's nomination could be a good starting point. I didn't hear many people here accuse Mitch McConnell of weaponizing the DoJ.

Of course that's just one, egregious example. Sicking the FBI on a political opponent in 2016 is another that comes to mind.

Care to point out the section of the constitution that states abortion is a right? You can't because it's not there which means it goes back to the states to decide. Simple civics.