Quote:Four United States senators went to the Munich Security Conference to hear Ukrainian soldiers and government official ask for more aid to the country in the war against Russia. They came back pitching Biden's ask for $60 billion in war funding, but they couldn't define what a victory would look like.

Sens. Sheldon Whitehouse (D-RI) and Mark Warner (D-VA) were among the senators and other lawmakers who went traveled to the German city the to see what other demands for aid were being asked of the US, according to Politico.

Warner recounted that the passage of the aid in the House that Speaker Mike Johnson has said is "dead on arrival" would be a "game changer” for Ukraine.

“I am not aware of any other way for, in the short term, the Ukrainians to get the arms and ammunition and tools they need, other than from the United States," Warner added. However, Politico reports that many of the senators in interviews with the outlet side-stepped questions when it came to how Ukraine could win.

Whitehouse said that it is “heartbreaking” to hear soldiers recount what has been happening on the battlefield. “For young Ukrainian soldiers on the front lines, this is a persistent topic of conversation,” he said of a story told about a soldier who would scroll through his phone waiting to see if the US would send more aid to the country.

Defense leaders in Munich reportedly feared for Ukraine and have concerns that the nation will lose to Russia in the war that has now gone on for two years. Politicians and other officials used the conferences as an opportunity to push the $60 billion aid packages after over $113 billion has already been spent. The outlet said there was a feeling among the lawmakers who went that the plan now was to "just keep the Ukrainian military from collapsing."

President Kamala Harris seemed staunch about sending more aid after the conference, saying there is not plan B to the aid. “There’s only Plan A," she said, indicating the spending package must be pushed through the House.

The conference reportedly had a feeling of unease that the US would not be able to send any more aid because of conservative House members preventing the package from going to the floor for a vote.

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(02-19-2024 08:16 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

Quote:Four United States senators went to the Munich Security Conference to hear Ukrainian soldiers and government official ask for more aid to the country in the war against Russia. They came back pitching Biden's ask for $60 billion in war funding, but they couldn't define what a victory would look like.

Sens. Sheldon Whitehouse (D-RI) and Mark Warner (D-VA) were among the senators and other lawmakers who went traveled to the German city the to see what other demands for aid were being asked of the US, according to Politico.

Warner recounted that the passage of the aid in the House that Speaker Mike Johnson has said is "dead on arrival" would be a "game changer” for Ukraine.

“I am not aware of any other way for, in the short term, the Ukrainians to get the arms and ammunition and tools they need, other than from the United States," Warner added. However, Politico reports that many of the senators in interviews with the outlet side-stepped questions when it came to how Ukraine could win.

Whitehouse said that it is “heartbreaking” to hear soldiers recount what has been happening on the battlefield. “For young Ukrainian soldiers on the front lines, this is a persistent topic of conversation,” he said of a story told about a soldier who would scroll through his phone waiting to see if the US would send more aid to the country.

Defense leaders in Munich reportedly feared for Ukraine and have concerns that the nation will lose to Russia in the war that has now gone on for two years. Politicians and other officials used the conferences as an opportunity to push the $60 billion aid packages after over $113 billion has already been spent. The outlet said there was a feeling among the lawmakers who went that the plan now was to "just keep the Ukrainian military from collapsing."

President Kamala Harris seemed staunch about sending more aid after the conference, saying there is not plan B to the aid. “There’s only Plan A," she said, indicating the spending package must be pushed through the House.

The conference reportedly had a feeling of unease that the US would not be able to send any more aid because of conservative House members preventing the package from going to the floor for a vote.

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You dummies. They are putting right in your face.


Im patient

If Creepy Joe and Kamala want the $60 billion, secure the border. Its that easy. What it tells you is that it is more important to the Dems to let criminals, terrorists, spies, child traffickers and anyone else into our country than to help Ukraine and Israel.

(02-19-2024 09:53 PM)bullet Wrote:  If Creepy Joe and Kamala want the $60 billion, secure the border. Its that easy. What it tells you is that it is more important to the Dems to let criminals, terrorists, spies, child traffickers and anyone else into our country than to help Ukraine and Israel.

Democrats voters are too stupid to understand that they have mortgaged their children and grandchildren's futures so that an ex-comedian live like a king and their own leaders can siphon off wealth from their own countrymen.

When the collapse comes they'll get it. They'll watch as their leaders flee or go underground leaving them all to starve.

(02-19-2024 09:53 PM)bullet Wrote:  If Creepy Joe and Kamala want the $60 billion, secure the border. Its that easy. What it tells you is that it is more important to the Dems to let criminals, terrorists, spies, child traffickers and anyone else into our country than to help Ukraine and Israel.

THEY HAVE ALREADY SAID THIS!!!!!!

100+ billion worth.

Have yall been sleeping through this russian man bad, slavitard ukraine democracy lie the whole damn time?


FFS


How many times yave i said frick ukraine and russia.

Dammit

(02-19-2024 09:53 PM)bullet Wrote:  If Creepy Joe and Kamala want the $60 billion, secure the border. Its that easy. What it tells you is that it is more important to the Dems to let criminals, terrorists, spies, child traffickers and anyone else into our country than to help Ukraine and Israel.

What the republican house should do is pass a bil that links aid to Ukraine to every border protection move that they want:
- Rational, points-based merit immigration law; the left seems to like Canada's, and that would be a huge improvement
- Build the wall to cover all land borders
- Add improved electronic and personal security at all non-walled locations
- Add more people to CBP to patrol borders more extensively, and raise pay
- Add more people to ICE to track down those who have overstayed visas
- Add more immigration judges to clear backlogs
- For illegals who have been here more than, say, 5 years, and are productive members of society with their noses clean, offer permanent guest worker status, with no path to citizenship, except
- Offer citizen status to anyone who serves a full hitch in the military, with an honorable discharge
- If you cross the border anywhere but at a designated port of entry, you are automatically illegal and not entitled to claim amnesty
- Birthright citizenship exists only if your parents were in the USA legally
- If you are in the USA illegally and commit a felony, you serve the max sentence in full, and are deported upon release
- If you declare yourself a sanctuary city, you have to accept all illegals transferred to you

That would force the issue.

(02-20-2024 09:49 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(02-19-2024 09:53 PM)bullet Wrote:  If Creepy Joe and Kamala want the $60 billion, secure the border. Its that easy. What it tells you is that it is more important to the Dems to let criminals, terrorists, spies, child traffickers and anyone else into our country than to help Ukraine and Israel.

What the republican house should do is pass a bil that links aid to Ukraine to every border protection move that they want:
- Rational, points-based merit immigration law; the left seems to like Canada's, and that would be a huge improvement
- Build the wall to cover all land borders
- Add improved electronic and personal security at all non-walled locations
- Add more people to CBP to patrol borders more extensively, and raise pay
- Add more people to ICE to track down those who have overstayed visas
- Add more immigration judges to clear backlogs
- For illegals who have been here more than, say, 5 years, and are productive members of society with their noses clean, offer permanent guest worker status, with no path to citizenship, except
- Offer citizen status to anyone who serves a full hitch in the military, with an honorable discharge
- If you cross the border anywhere but at a designated port of entry, you are automatically illegal and not entitled to claim amnesty
- Birthright citizenship exists only if your parents were in the USA legally
- If you are in the USA illegally and commit a felony, you serve the max sentence in full, and are deported upon release
- If you declare yourself a sanctuary city, you have to accept all illegals transferred to you

That would force the issue.

That would need to be a one time deal. We don't want this to keep coming up as happened with the Reagan amnesty. Plus, we really don't want the Biden illegals. Nobody who came after 2020.

I don't really have a problem with birthright citizenship. The numbers involved are small. Or at least they were before the flood of Biden illegals.

I don't know why we allow anyone who committed a felony to not be deported. If its a short sentence, I would just kick them out with a suspended sentence as long as they don't return.

(02-20-2024 12:03 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(02-20-2024 09:49 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(02-19-2024 09:53 PM)bullet Wrote:  If Creepy Joe and Kamala want the $60 billion, secure the border. Its that easy. What it tells you is that it is more important to the Dems to let criminals, terrorists, spies, child traffickers and anyone else into our country than to help Ukraine and Israel.

What the republican house should do is pass a bil that links aid to Ukraine to every border protection move that they want:
- Rational, points-based merit immigration law; the left seems to like Canada's, and that would be a huge improvement
- Build the wall to cover all land borders
- Add improved electronic and personal security at all non-walled locations
- Add more people to CBP to patrol borders more extensively, and raise pay
- Add more people to ICE to track down those who have overstayed visas
- Add more immigration judges to clear backlogs
- For illegals who have been here more than, say, 5 years, and are productive members of society with their noses clean, offer permanent guest worker status, with no path to citizenship, except
- Offer citizen status to anyone who serves a full hitch in the military, with an honorable discharge
- If you cross the border anywhere but at a designated port of entry, you are automatically illegal and not entitled to claim amnesty
- Birthright citizenship exists only if your parents were in the USA legally
- If you are in the USA illegally and commit a felony, you serve the max sentence in full, and are deported upon release
- If you declare yourself a sanctuary city, you have to accept all illegals transferred to you

That would force the issue.

That would need to be a one time deal. We don't want this to keep coming up as happened with the Reagan amnesty. Plus, we really don't want the Biden illegals. Nobody who came after 2020.

I don't really have a problem with birthright citizenship. The numbers involved are small. Or at least they were before the flood of Biden illegals.

I don't know why we allow anyone who committed a felony to not be deported. If its a short sentence, I would just kick them out with a suspended sentence as long as they don't return.

I would lock them up forever. Illegal commits a felony - life. No parole. Funding the prisons is cheaper than what were doing, and it would end this crap tomorrow.