(12-04-2023 11:23 AM)quo vadis Wrote: (12-04-2023 11:06 AM)johnbragg Wrote: (12-04-2023 11:03 AM)Bear Catlett Wrote: (12-04-2023 10:49 AM)Wahoowa84 Wrote: https://www.inquirer.com/college-sports/...tml#loaded
The main point: “If your goal was to show college football for what it is, you could not have crafted a more elegant solution than what the playoff selection committee came up with on Sunday afternoon. In Florida State, it had a team that had done everything a team was supposed to do, everything a team could do, everything that every other team in the history of the college football playoffs had done to earn the right to prove itself therein. Not only that, but the Seminoles did it in a manner that was the very definition of collegiate. They overcame adversity. They rose to the challenge. They stuck together and were never defeated. The committee considered all of those things and decided they were of secondary value.”
This Committee changed what were playoffs into a beauty contest. They disregarded the first 11 games of the season because Jordan Travis broke his leg playing, and his back-up had to sit-out a game due to concussion protocols suffered after a targeting/late-hit by Florida.
Why do people keep saying that????
FSU is clearly not the same team without Travis.
They're undefeated without Travis. The committee's job is to use their judgement. The people upset are saying that the committee's judgement sucks.
They don't care that FSU is less strong without their star QB. They care what that criteria does to the worth of the college football regular season.
I agree with your characterization here.
And about the bolded, I don't really get that critique. It's not like Alabama is a 6-6 team. They went 12-1 in the toughest conference, winning their last 10 games, including beating the two-time defending champ in their home state to capture the conference title. That's a helluva regular season.
Now one can argue that FSU had an even better regular season. Given that the ACC is the #5 conference
But still unquestionably a P5 conference. The Great REalignment of the past few years has not taken effect yet.
The ACC was 10-9 plus 2-4 12-13 against the rest of the P5+ND, 6-4 against the SEC. Big 10 was 6-8, Big 12 6-6, PAC 12 7-5, SEC 7-9.
There's not a big separation there. Florida State was a conference champ of a legit P5 league this year. Ask SEC SEC SEC Florida and LSU.
Quote: I'm not so sure, but even if they did, it was IMO very close,
But is it really close? The system has been, in reality, that an undefeated P5 champion gets in. Then you start comparing the candidates for the other spots.
A long time ago, I remember the Jameis Winston FSU team was No 1 in the polls, until the CFP started and ranked them 2, 2, 2, 3, 3, 3, 4.
The committee was clearly unimpressed with FSU having to rely on their Heisman trophy candidate to pull miracle after miracle out of a hat, but they didn't bump FSU out of the playoff.
Quote:so allowing a factor like Travis injury, which the criteria says the CFP is supposed to factor in,
That is in the black letter text of what the CFP is supposed to do. Which means it's a mistake in the CFP instructions (and maybe in having a human CFP)
Quote:to tip it to Alabama doesn't mean they denigrated the worth of the regular season.
They did degrade the regular season, because "undefeated against a P5 schedule" used to automatically rate above "11-1 / 12-1 against a P5 schedule."
You might have a different answer if FSU had a notably soft schedule, but they didn't. They played 2 SEC schools OOC, they played 3 teams ranked in the final top 25 (LSU, Clemson, Louisville).
Really, there should have been more hue-and-cry to leave out Michigan, who went 2 straight years without a P5 OOC game.