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Colorado SOS Pushing to Have Trump Off the Ballot
A court case is underway in Colorado as our idiot progressive SOS pushes to have Trump thrown off the ballot. More 'muh insurrection' nonsense.

If they succeed here, expect the appeals to go all the way to The Supreme Court.

CO SecState Griswold: ‘Real Questions’ if the Constitution Disqualifies Trump from Presidency

Quote:Colorado Secretary of State Jena Griswold (D) Monday on CNN’s”News Central” that there were “real questions” about whether the Constitution disqualified former President Donald Trump from running for president or being seated in the office.

Anchor John Berman said, “In Denver, court proceedings under way and you are are looking at live picture right now to see if section 3 of the 14th Amendment should keep Donald Trump off of the presidential ballot. Let me read it, ‘No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any state, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any state legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any state, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof.'”

Griswold said, “Yes, that is right. With this court case, we are hoping that it is giving guidance to ballots across the nation. We have never had this type of situation occur where a sitting president incites the insurrection and then had the audacity to run again. So there are real questions of Section 3 of the 14th Amendment disqualifies him. I am looking forward to the judge giving guidance on the topic.”

She continued, “I will follow whatever court determination is in place by the time I certify the ballot. I do believe that Donald Trump incited the insurrection.”

Griswold added, “So did his actions rise to the level of disqualification, and who gets to determine that? Is it me, The court? Would it bar him from ballot access or just being seated in office if he was disqualified? There is disagreement, and this is why it is appropriate for the court to weigh in right now.”

https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2023/10/...residency/
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Thats gunna help election legitimacy
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They won't win
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Its only a real question for really, really stupid people.

I'm just amazed how TDS has totally destroyed the ability to think of so many people. Now I don't know if the Colorado SOS is just a POS or an idiot, but lots of people believe this is a serious argument.
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(10-31-2023 12:27 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  They won't win

Don't be so sure of that. Like Kalifornia, Colorado has gone totally blue. All the levers of power here are controlled by the dems. Denver is overwhelmingly blue and that is where this trial is being held. Maybe some jurors have common sense and will not go along, sensing that like a lot of left over-reach, it could, in the future come back to bite them in the keister.
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(10-31-2023 12:34 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  
(10-31-2023 12:27 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  They won't win

Don't be so sure of that. Like Kalifornia, Colorado has gone totally blue. All the levers of power here are controlled by the dems. Denver is overwhelmingly blue and that is where this trial is being held. Maybe some jurors have common sense and will not go along, sensing that like a lot of left over-reach, it could, in the future come back to bite them in the keister.

Muh Constitutional Convention and all that. We're talking Federal Election here.
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This is in the judicial system and if it succeeds, will get overturned at some point on appeal.

A Constitutional Convention is a HARD NO. There is no end to the nonsense that could come from that route. Unintended consequences and all....
10-31-2023 12:39 PM
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All I'm saying is it would take a Constitutional Convention to change the election laws to allow this.
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Isnt it amazing how in order to save democracy or beat an easily ‘beatable candidate’ that the Dems and Vichy Republicans have resort to such nonsense and non democratic methods?
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(10-31-2023 12:39 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  This is in the judicial system and if it succeeds, will get overturned at some point on appeal.

A Constitutional Convention is a HARD NO. There is no end to the nonsense that could come from that route. Unintended consequences and all....

The Supreme Court will kick it out with at least 7 votes. Decent chance the not wise Latina and far left nut Biden appointed might even kick it out.
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Kinda pointless really. There's no way he's winning CO. He lost to Biden by 13%+ in 2020.
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We can certainly agree on that
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(10-31-2023 12:27 PM)solohawks Wrote:  Thats gunna help election legitimacy

Protecting democracy by preventing Republicans from voting for their democratically elected primary candidate. Hypocrisy literally drips from this action.
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(10-31-2023 12:52 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(10-31-2023 12:27 PM)solohawks Wrote:  Thats gunna help election legitimacy

Protecting democracy by preventing Republicans from voting for their democratically elected primary candidate. Hypocrisy literally drips from this action.

I guess the whole Constitution thing is pointless, because trump, right? 03-zzz
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(10-31-2023 12:47 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Kinda pointless really. There's no way he's winning CO. He lost to Biden by 13%+ in 2020.

If they prevent Trump from being on the ballot, the remedy would be that Colorado's electoral votes are disqualified, and their vote count removed from the number required to win the election.

So go ahead, f*ck around and find out.
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(10-31-2023 12:56 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(10-31-2023 12:52 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(10-31-2023 12:27 PM)solohawks Wrote:  Thats gunna help election legitimacy

Protecting democracy by preventing Republicans from voting for their democratically elected primary candidate. Hypocrisy literally drips from this action.

I guess the whole Constitution thing is pointless, because trump, right? 03-zzz

There is no "constitutional thing" because there was no insurrection. Misuse of the language doesnt make it so. Nobody there had any intention of overthrowing the government of the United States of America armed with flag poles and canes. The idea that our "democracy" was teetering on the edge or that our government was about to be taken over is so laughable that I dont know how people keep a straight face when they promote that stupid narrative. The whole thing was literally over in a few hours.


Thousands of people surrounded the White House and attempted to breach the walls for several days in the summer of 2020---they even set fire to a historic church on the White House grounds. Hundreds of law enforcement officers were injured and the president at one point was moved to the White House bunker. Secret Service calls to the city of DC and to Capital Hill for help that summer during the siege were ignored. Fortunately, the Secret Service was able to find enough additional law enforcement help from various executive branch security forces to prevent the outer fences from being overwhelmed.

That White House siege was longer, far more violent, and far more similar to an insurrection than Jan 6th----it just doenst appear to be as significant on the surface because the White House security plan was competent enough to hold off the crowd. Frankly---neither of these are insurrections. They are just protests that devolved into riots.
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(10-31-2023 01:07 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  
(10-31-2023 12:47 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Kinda pointless really. There's no way he's winning CO. He lost to Biden by 13%+ in 2020.

If they prevent Trump from being on the ballot, the remedy would be that Colorado's electoral votes are disqualified, and their vote count removed from the number required to win the election.

So go ahead, f*ck around and find out.

If Colorado manages to do it, another 15 states will follow suit. If this was to somehow be upheld, it would be the end of the country.
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They know Trump is STILL the biggest threat to there "way of life".
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(10-31-2023 01:07 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  
(10-31-2023 12:47 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Kinda pointless really. There's no way he's winning CO. He lost to Biden by 13%+ in 2020.

If they prevent Trump from being on the ballot, the remedy would be that Colorado's electoral votes are disqualified, and their vote count removed from the number required to win the election.

So go ahead, f*ck around and find out.

Not likely, if he's off the ballot it's because the courts sided with the Constitution, making him ineligible. How exactly would that disqualify the certified electors from the state...and who would me making that "remedy" any way?

The Senate just can't not count the electors they receive from the state on some whim. That's the ridiculous **** trump and his cabal tried to pull in 2020.
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(10-31-2023 01:11 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(10-31-2023 12:56 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(10-31-2023 12:52 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(10-31-2023 12:27 PM)solohawks Wrote:  Thats gunna help election legitimacy

Protecting democracy by preventing Republicans from voting for their democratically elected primary candidate. Hypocrisy literally drips from this action.

I guess the whole Constitution thing is pointless, because trump, right? 03-zzz

There is no "constitutional thing" because there was no insurrection. Misuse of the language doesnt make it so. Nobody there had any intention of overthrowing the government of the United States of America armed with flag poles and canes. The idea that our "democracy" was teetering on the edge or that our government was about to be taken over is so laughable that I dont know how people keep a straight face when they promote that stupid narrative. The whole thing was literally over in a few hours.


Thousands of people surrounded the White House and attempted to breach the walls in the summer of 2020---they even set fire to a historic church on the White House grounds. Hundreds of law enforcement officers were injured and the president at one point was moved to the White House bunker. Secret Service calls to the city of DC and to Capital Hill call for help that summer during the siege were ignored. Fortunately, the Secret Service was able to find enough additional law enforcement help from various executive branch security forces to prevent the outer fences from being overwhelmed.

That White House siege was far more violent and far more similar to an insurrection than Jan 6th----it just doenst appear to be as significant on the surface because the White House security plan was competent enough to hold off the crowd.

Well, that's your opinion. If the courts rule that there was, and SCOTUS upholds it as it would likely end up there, the dude's off the ballot. Period.
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